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15 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Bless ! Your niave ness is endearing in regards to the “ reviewed every three weeks “ part 

Just reporting what I heard, less of the abuse pal ok !

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27 minutes ago, Boab said:

Just on the news that when this passport thingy comes in, it won’t be permanent and will be reviewed every three weeks. 
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I know your only reporting what was said but a year and a half ago they banned drinking on trains while we were in lockdown and said it was only temporary….. 16 months later nothing has changed although it’s like mask wearing on a train and no one listens anyway 

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3 minutes ago, theshed said:


I know your only reporting what was said but a year and a half ago they banned drinking on trains while we were in lockdown and said it was only temporary….. 16 months later nothing has changed although it’s like mask wearing on a train and no one listens anyway 

Exactly . 

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What's the big deal about getting a booster shot? Were you really that traumatised by getting the previous ones?

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1 hour ago, Boab said:

Is that not total population, Gizmo ?

Figures I seen were over 16s


Yeah total population for both.

Our over-16 cohort is 81% double-jabbed. 

 

8 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

What's the big deal about getting a booster shot? Were you really that traumatised by getting the previous ones?


Standard conspiracy playbook. If the 5G / Bill Gates / Microchip / 1st jab / 2nd jab didn't get ya, the booster will. 

If I could be arsed I'd make a timeline of all the conspiracies that have popped up and then been dropped like a hot potato for the next exciting conspiracy to grab their fleeting attention, but then I suspect our small band of conspiracy bods wouldn't even see themselves in it, particularly the one that's completely at it and 100% a dupe a/c for one of the usual bunch. 

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3 hours ago, thewiseone said:

Injecting this concoction can only ever weaken the body/ mind

 

The vaccines weaken our body and minds now? :laugh2:

 

Whatever you say fruit loops. You sound like an insecure individual who needs this debate to feel better than others. You're the messiah - when the human race falls because of this damn vaccine you'll be there to kick start it all again with all the other anti-vaxxers.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Gizmo said:


Yeah total population for both.

Our over-16 cohort is 81% double-jabbed. 

 


Standard conspiracy playbook. If the 5G / Bill Gates / Microchip / 1st jab / 2nd jab didn't get ya, the booster will. 

If I could be arsed I'd make a timeline of all the conspiracies that have popped up and then been dropped like a hot potato for the next exciting conspiracy to grab their fleeting attention, but then I suspect our small band of conspiracy bods wouldn't even see themselves in it, particularly the one that's completely at it and 100% a dupe a/c for one of the usual bunch. 

****ing weirdos !

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1 hour ago, Boab said:

Just reporting what I heard, less of the abuse pal ok !

 

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26 minutes ago, kila said:

 

The vaccines weaken our body and minds now? :laugh2:

 

Whatever you say fruit loops. You sound like an insecure individual who needs this debate to feel better than others. You're the messiah - when the human race falls because of this damn vaccine you'll be there to kick start it all again with all the other anti-vaxxers.

 

 

Yes absolutely, do you not know! It's dead simple. Our best, healthiest and energetic best is reached when we clean and clear our internal systems. 

It's a bit like a stagnant river. In order to freshen the river we don't add to it but remove from it, eg we clean the system.Its exactly the same with our bodies. How cool is that!

Adding the likes of medications and vaccines  " muddy the waters". It's just a different way of thinking about it. 

It's like Hearts over the last few years. All the players getting injured, with remarkable injuries, take away the problem and hey presto the players get stronger and fitter and less injuries. You'll have witnessed that too if your a Hearts man! 

It's nice of you to refer to me as " the Messiah" but that's a little embarrassing. 

 

There's no money for the pharma in this approach. The money all comes from people being on the meds, and it's the reason older people tend to be on long lists of meds. As they are designed  to " stop the symptom" not cure the condition. Hence with the vaccs and the boosters it's Ching, Ching all the way to the bank and because it's all premeditated then the powers running it have got their fingers steadfastly in the trough. You know guys like Matt Wankcok , Bojo  all made a shrewd dollar! Then you get the Lemmings on here all advocating for it, you couldnae make it up! 

1 hour ago, theshed said:


I know your only reporting what was said but a year and a half ago they banned drinking on trains while we were in lockdown and said it was only temporary….. 16 months later nothing has changed although it’s like mask wearing on a train and no one listens anyway 

Well done Shed, once it's taken it ain't given back, the government have consistantly lied throughout this affair, yet you get , strong upstanding citizens on here supporting and acting as their mouth peices. It's nuts, being played for 18 months and still not joining the dots! 

 

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1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

What's the big deal about getting a booster shot? Were you really that traumatised by getting the previous ones?

 

think it’s to do with people interpreting the plan constantly changing

 

viewed positively that’s due to the newness of the virus / severity of the situation / can be viewed at a high-level not that different to other vaccines eg boosters happen for them too / selfish people scuppering the plan etc

 

viewed negatively - the plan seems to be changing due to it not working or those running struggling to solve the issues - a few examples being :

 

australia zero-covid being ditched as predicted by many who were ridiculed (that’s not to say overall Australia might have done really well - time will tell but it’s about the change not the outcome)

 

vaccine passports not being used now they are possibly

 

x-number of jabs from freedom the x being the old and vulnerable now we’re talking about vaccinating age groups the science says we shouldn’t really

 

while boosters were probably expected did anyone really expect Israel to be on their 4th jab already and if true as posted above on a travel blacklist 

 

in both views people will have what they think are the correct reasons why these things are happening - the need for multiple boosters being an interesting one

 

personally I think there’s a fair amount of doubt all-round (other than dismissing the extreme conspiracy stuff regarding a desire for population control)

 

 

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24 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

think it’s to do with people interpreting the plan constantly changing

 

viewed positively that’s due to the newness of the virus / severity of the situation / can be viewed at a high-level not that different to other vaccines eg boosters happen for them too / selfish people scuppering the plan etc

 

viewed negatively - the plan seems to be changing due to it not working or those running struggling to solve the issues - a few examples being :

 

australia zero-covid being ditched as predicted by many who were ridiculed (that’s not to say overall Australia might have done really well - time will tell but it’s about the change not the outcome)

 

vaccine passports not being used now they are possibly

 

x-number of jabs from freedom the x being the old and vulnerable now we’re talking about vaccinating age groups the science says we shouldn’t really

 

while boosters were probably expected did anyone really expect Israel to be on their 4th jab already and if true as posted above on a travel blacklist 

 

in both views people will have what they think are the correct reasons why these things are happening - the need for multiple boosters being an interesting one

 

personally I think there’s a fair amount of doubt all-round (other than dismissing the extreme conspiracy stuff regarding a desire for population control)

 

 

 

When it comes to the vaccines, boosters aren't a change to the plan though. 

 

We knew way back at the start of the year that the vaccine producers were working on booster shots due to new variants and the possibility of diminishing protection.

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9 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

When it comes to the vaccines, boosters aren't a change to the plan though. 

 

We knew way back at the start of the year that the vaccine producers were working on booster shots due to new variants and the possibility of diminishing protection.

 

i agree and it’s not unusual for vaccines in general to need boosters

 

its potentially the frequency which might bother some - time will tell how many are needed and if that’s in line with peoples expectations

 

its difficult to put people into groups but those at high risk of dying didnt really have a choice - give me the vaccine if it works great if it doesn’t I’m probably done for anyway :(

 

those at much lesser risk who took the vaccine for the greater good / ability to travel and go to events - it’s still being observed/monitored just how effective the vaccines are at stopping the spread (and hence the good deed) the “bams/fruit loops” are predicting multiple boosters and think they know why (and that’s unlikely to be a good thing :( )

 

im ruling out only the most extreme (imo) stuff at the moment 

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2 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

i agree and it’s not unusual for vaccines in general to need boosters

 

its potentially the frequency which might bother some - time will tell how many are needed and if that’s in line with peoples expectations

 

its difficult to put people into groups but those at high risk of dying didnt really have a choice - give me the vaccine if it works great if it doesn’t I’m probably done for anyway :(

 

those at much lesser risk who took the vaccine for the greater good / ability to travel and go to events - it’s still being observed/monitored just how effective the vaccines are at stopping the spread (and hence the good deed) the “bams/fruit loops” are predicting multiple boosters and think they know why (and that’s unlikely to be a good thing :( )

 

im ruling out only the most extreme (imo) stuff at the moment 

Yes it’s the frequency which will be the issue for many IMO I think the “ bams” are probably concerned how damaging frequent boosters may do ? Is that not a valid concern ? 

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3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes it’s the frequency which will be the issue for many IMO I think the “ bams” are probably concerned how damaging frequent boosters may do ? Is that not a valid concern ? 

 

i don’t know mate

 

an alternative answer is that it’s all been fully tested and it wouldn’t happen if there’s a valid concern - so if  1 booster or 10 boosters are required that’s the right thing

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

i don’t know mate

 

an alternative answer is that it’s all been fully tested and it wouldn’t happen if there’s a valid concern - so if  1 booster or 10 boosters are required that’s the right thing

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, thewiseone said:

Yes absolutely, do you not know! It's dead simple. Our best, healthiest and energetic best is reached when we clean and clear our internal systems. 

It's a bit like a stagnant river. In order to freshen the river we don't add to it but remove from it, eg we clean the system.Its exactly the same with our bodies. How cool is that!

Adding the likes of medications and vaccines  " muddy the waters". It's just a different way of thinking about it. 

 

 

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It's just a different way of thinking about it

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2 hours ago, thewiseone said:

Yes absolutely, do you not know! It's dead simple. Our best, healthiest and energetic best is reached when we clean and clear our internal systems. 

It's a bit like a stagnant river. In order to freshen the river we don't add to it but remove from it, eg we clean the system.Its exactly the same with our bodies. How cool is that!

Adding the likes of medications and vaccines  " muddy the waters". It's just a different way of thinking about it. 

It's like Hearts over the last few years. All the players getting injured, with remarkable injuries, take away the problem and hey presto the players get stronger and fitter and less injuries. You'll have witnessed that too if your a Hearts man! 

It's nice of you to refer to me as " the Messiah" but that's a little embarrassing. 

 

There's no money for the pharma in this approach. The money all comes from people being on the meds, and it's the reason older people tend to be on long lists of meds. As they are designed  to " stop the symptom" not cure the condition. Hence with the vaccs and the boosters it's Ching, Ching all the way to the bank and because it's all premeditated then the powers running it have got their fingers steadfastly in the trough. You know guys like Matt Wankcok , Bojo  all made a shrewd dollar! Then you get the Lemmings on here all advocating for it, you couldnae make it up! 

Well done Shed, once it's taken it ain't given back, the government have consistantly lied throughout this affair, yet you get , strong upstanding citizens on here supporting and acting as their mouth peices. It's nuts, being played for 18 months and still not joining the dots! 

 


I know you are totally at it, but I'll indulge one more time. 

If it's all premeditated - please explain how and why. 

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56 minutes ago, Gizmo said:


I know you are totally at it, but I'll indulge one more time. 

If it's all premeditated - please explain how and why. 

 

It's crazy talk. People making coin out of the pandemic is not the cause of the pandemic, it's opportunistic arseholes who are seizing the chance to make money out of the situation.

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9 minutes ago, Awbdy Oot said:

 

It's crazy talk. People making coin out of the pandemic is not the cause of the pandemic, it's opportunistic arseholes who are seizing the chance to make money out of the situation.

Which includes the ones pandering to the likes of thewiseone by putting out merch or charging for access or getting benefits from the click click click on websites…. 

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Just now, jack D and coke said:

:lol: 

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That is mental. The boys scum. Sure he has pictures of someone at BBC Scotland too. Hes never off there to comment on anything and everything that isnt politically relevant.

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Just now, sadj said:

That is mental. The boys scum. Sure he has pictures of someone at BBC Scotland too. Hes never off there to comment on anything and everything that isnt politically relevant.

😂An utter rodent. Him and that Bowie one that wears the eye liner. 

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2 minutes ago, sadj said:

Which includes the ones pandering to the likes of thewiseone by putting out merch or charging for access or getting benefits from the click click click on websites…. 

 

I like to think of them as sheep, unable to critically think, unable to listen to reason, just following the narrative of the anti-establishment crowd.

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1 minute ago, jack D and coke said:

😂An utter rodent. Him and that Bowie one that wears the eye liner. 

Andrew Bowie is my MP he is a ****ing arsehole , career career career , **** your constituents over at every opportunity. Hes voted against anything to benefit them and voted as told in every vote that affects them. 

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1 minute ago, Awbdy Oot said:

 

I like to think of them as sheep, unable to critically think, unable to listen to reason, just following the narrative of the anti-establishment crowd.

Well played 🤣🤣

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Just now, sadj said:

Andrew Bowie is my MP he is a ****ing arsehole , career career career , **** your constituents over at every opportunity. Hes voted against anything to benefit them and voted as told in every vote that affects them. 

Mental……who votes for a man like that…

:cornette:

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11 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Mental……who votes for a man like that…

:cornette:

Not me for sure. A lot of people voted for him at the last GE because they just wanted Brexit done. Others vote for him because they got brought up on estates and their parents had to vote as the landowner did. Sad really 

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Just now, sadj said:

Not me for sure. A lot of people voted for him at the last GE because they just wanted Brexit done. Others vote for him because they got brought up on estates and their parents had to vote as the landowner did. Sad really 

I wasn’t suggesting you did bud sorry haha. 
I just don’t know what these people are tbh. Grovelling, snivelling little turds who are doing whatever they can to become a life peer for their work. 
They honestly give me the heave. 

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3 hours ago, thewiseone said:

Our best, healthiest and energetic best is reached when we clean and clear our internal systems. 

It's a bit like a stagnant river. In order to freshen the river we don't add to it but remove from it, eg we clean the system.Its exactly the same with our bodies. How cool is that!

 


Maybe you should research this properly lad. There is a reason we manipulate our systems for sport or similar to achieve better performance or to lift heavier , to run faster , to run further. Either that or every sportsperson at elite level , every heavy lifter , every trainer , every sports scientist is wrong and you are correct…..

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3 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

I wasn’t suggesting you did bud sorry haha. 
I just don’t know what these people are tbh. Grovelling, snivelling little turds who are doing whatever they can to become a life peer for their work. 
They honestly give me the heave. 

Na , I know mate. Its disgusting isn’t it. Have your politics , have your beliefs but look after the people who elect you. Its their livelihoods , their families , their lifes that suffer when you abuse the system. Iv had a lot of dealings with our local MSP and heir to the Russian throne Alexander Burnett and much as his politics are not mine he has worked tirelessly for his constituents. If they do that and choose to side with their party on things not directly affecting their constituents you can not ask for more. Alexander was at mine a few weeks ago and some of the protocols he asked for , for his safety , his staff , the neighbours he interacted with and his family would make people on this threads heads explode. 

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1 minute ago, sadj said:

Na , I know mate. Its disgusting isn’t it. Have your politics , have your beliefs but look after the people who elect you. Its their livelihoods , their families , their lifes that suffer when you abuse the system. Iv had a lot of dealings with our local MSP and heir to the Russian throne Alexander Burnett and much as his politics are not mine he has worked tirelessly for his constituents. If they do that and choose to side with their party on things not directly affecting their constituents you can not ask for more. Alexander was at mine a few weeks ago and some of the protocols he asked for , for his safety , his staff , the neighbours he interacted with and his family would make people on this threads heads explode. 

Well fair play to him then👍🏼

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8 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Well fair play to him then👍🏼

Sorry shall we let this thread get back to the lunacy and conspiracies rather than politics 🤣

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3 hours ago, sadj said:


Maybe you should research this properly lad. There is a reason we manipulate our systems for sport or similar to achieve better performance or to lift heavier , to run faster , to run further. Either that or every sportsperson at elite level , every heavy lifter , every trainer , every sports scientist is wrong and you are correct…..


I think wisey is talking long-term

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3 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:


I think wisey is talking long-term

I think 'wisey' is talking out his hoop. 

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Sounds like thewiseone wouldn’t even take viagra because his system needs to be clean to fully function.

 

Like his posts, he’s a bit of a flop. 

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34 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

I think 'wisey' is talking out his hoop. 

Wee Denis :lol: 

What a slaver. 

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7 hours ago, sadj said:


Maybe you should research this properly lad. There is a reason we manipulate our systems for sport or similar to achieve better performance or to lift heavier , to run faster , to run further. Either that or every sportsperson at elite level , every heavy lifter , every trainer , every sports scientist is wrong and you are correct…..

 

That's not a great example. "Take drugs and you too could win world's strongest man, the 100m and multiple Tour de Frances" 

 

Side effects? Forget 'em.

 

Now of course there are plenty of legal and 'safe' ways to manipulate your system (as I'm sure you were getting at) but an industry that is constantly and persistently pushing that boundary of what is safe in exchange for performance is not a great example to hold up for why manipulating your system is a good thing. If nothing else, the average populace doesn't need to be higher, faster, stronger...they need homeostasis.

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41 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

That's not a great example. "Take drugs and you too could win world's strongest man, the 100m and multiple Tour de Frances" 

 

Side effects? Forget 'em.

 

Now of course there are plenty of legal and 'safe' ways to manipulate your system (as I'm sure you were getting at) but an industry that is constantly and persistently pushing that boundary of what is safe in exchange for performance is not a great example to hold up for why manipulating your system is a good thing. If nothing else, the average populace doesn't need to be higher, faster, stronger...they need homeostasis.

Homeostasis is something I'm very interested in, the endocannabinoid system is very much under investigated.

 

see homeostasis as analogous to keeping your car tuned - regular oil, keeping tyres inflated, everything in good condition, tweaked and running well which will decrease the chance of system failure.

 

But it won't get rid of the hole in the radiator and it won't protect your hoses from leaks, it just brings down the chances and timescales of stuff going wrong.

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18 hours ago, sadj said:

Its for want of a better word “****ing mental” was reading about how hospitals are backed up with patients who have overdosed on it. 😑

Sadji, story was fabricated and debunked on " the Column" yesterday. Turns out the guy making the original claim hadn't been employed at the hospital concerned for 2'years. Just lazy journalism. The real information is found on things like our governments website. Here's a shot of the yellow card system upbdate, that's news surely and wondered why you haven't mentioned this it seems rather important to me! Looks like you are still being played , do you need a loan of my shovel to do a little digging before your next post!FB_IMG_1630949486786.thumb.jpg.7ebb1d43debd8ec57c5c5f4624a0e3ad.jpg

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5 minutes ago, Smithee said:

Homeostasis is something I'm very interested in, the endocannabinoid system is very much under investigated.

 

see homeostasis as analogous to keeping your car tuned - regular oil, keeping tyres inflated, everything in good condition, tweaked and running well which will decrease the chance of system failure.

 

But it won't get rid of the hole in the radiator and it won't protect your hoses from leaks, it just brings down the chances and timescales of stuff going wrong.

Maybe it will! 

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1 minute ago, Smithee said:

Homeostasis is something I'm very interested in, the endocannabinoid system is very much under investigated.

 

see homeostasis as analogous to keeping your car tuned - regular oil, keeping tyres inflated, everything in good condition, tweaked and running well which will decrease the chance of system failure.

 

But it won't get rid of the hole in the radiator and it won't protect your hoses from leaks, it just brings down the chances and timescales of stuff going wrong.

 

Very good analogy 👍👍

 

I'm not advocating rest and relaxation as an alternative to the vaccine though, just that using high performing sports people who regularly take dangerous banned substances isn't a great example of why we should manipulate our systems.

 

That said, a lot of people would need a lot less medical interference if they kept their bodies and minds in better service before their hoses started leaking (pun intended)

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1 hour ago, kila said:

Sounds like thewiseone wouldn’t even take viagra because his system needs to be clean to fully function.

 

Like his posts, he’s a bit of a flop. 

 

If he developed heart, lung or kidney disease, diabetes or cancer he'd be quick enough to take the medication/drugs from big pharma.

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3 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Sadji, story was fabricated and debunked on " the Column" yesterday. Turns out the guy making the original claim hadn't been employed at the hospital concerned for 2'years. Just lazy journalism. The real information is found on things like our governments website. Here's a shot of the yellow card system upbdate, that's news surely and wondered why you haven't mentioned this it seems rather important to me! Looks like you are still being played , do you need a loan of my shovel to do a little digging before your next post!FB_IMG_1630949486786.thumb.jpg.7ebb1d43debd8ec57c5c5f4624a0e3ad.jpg

"The hospital concerned?"

This isn't happening at one hospital

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2 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Maybe it will! 

No, it won't. If it did, weed smokers would be immortal

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9 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Sadji, story was fabricated and debunked on " the Column" yesterday. Turns out the guy making the original claim hadn't been employed at the hospital concerned for 2'years. Just lazy journalism. The real information is found on things like our governments website. Here's a shot of the yellow card system upbdate, that's news surely and wondered why you haven't mentioned this it seems rather important to me! Looks like you are still being played , do you need a loan of my shovel to do a little digging before your next post!FB_IMG_1630949486786.thumb.jpg.7ebb1d43debd8ec57c5c5f4624a0e3ad.jpg

 

Why would US hospital admissions, be on the UK government's site by the way?

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2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

I think 'wisey' is talking out his hoop. 


No surprise there mate

 

anything during the pandemic you’ve got ‘wrong’ ? Anything surprised you where you thought this isnt panning out the way I expected it to?

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