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14 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Not good . Bullied by a baying , pitch fork mob out of her profession . It’s dangerous waters.  I wish she hadn’t but maybe the pressure was too much for her ? There will be mass celebrations from some oddballs tonight on Twitter .  Meanwhile in the real world it’s a blow to freedom of speech ! In particular in a university of all places 

 

 

 

 

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I work at a university (thankfully not for much longer) and they are constantly firing round emails and surveys about how staff can be “allies”. Originally thought it was going to be about role-playing some WW2 battles, but no, it’s about having to concern ourselves with where folk like to put their bits and whether or not they shop on the ground floor or upstairs in Next. I just want to turn up to work, do my job and get paid, not have top-down mandates about supporting people through their sexual escapades and identity crises. The shark looks awfy wee from all the way up here.

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2 hours ago, jonesy said:

I work at a university (thankfully not for much longer) and they are constantly firing round emails and surveys about how staff can be “allies”. Originally thought it was going to be about role-playing some WW2 battles, but no, it’s about having to concern ourselves with where folk like to put their bits and whether or not they shop on the ground floor or upstairs in Next. I just want to turn up to work, do my job and get paid, not have top-down mandates about supporting people through their sexual escapades and identity crises. The shark looks awfy wee from all the way up here.

Yes its all went pear shaped now regarding the " LGBT"  agenda.  It started to go this way once the "T" was added i feel. Trans is not a sexual orientation and they jumped on the wagon of LGB and have created a toxic debate now , highlighted by the effective sacking of Kathleen. They cannot "debate" .  They will not consider that sex is immutable . They deliberately mix sex and gender to confuse any argument. I can tell that coming from a lifestyle where i know a few gay people and some lesbians NONE have any interest in this debate. We don't have anything in common with trans issues. GRA is of no interest to us and I know most lesbians are against it too. Just want to get on with our lives and not be lumped together with a lunatic fringe group who were arguing the other day that lesbians are transphobic if they dont sleep with " lesbians who have a penis" .  Madness. We just want to get pissed . eat good meals and go to Hearts matches lol....like anyone else . 

 

Its mainly the younger impressionable gay and lesbians who support all madness. They want to be part of the group and dont want to be outside of it ( gays nightmare is not to fit in or be ostracised). They are supported by the Hampstead champagne  left wing mob of Owen Jones.  Michael Cashman and David Paisley .  The unholy trinity of hatred against women i feel.  They have ruiied the reputation of Stonewall too. 

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2 hours ago, jonesy said:

I work at a university (thankfully not for much longer) and they are constantly firing round emails and surveys about how staff can be “allies”. Originally thought it was going to be about role-playing some WW2 battles, but no, it’s about having to concern ourselves with where folk like to put their bits and whether or not they shop on the ground floor or upstairs in Next. I just want to turn up to work, do my job and get paid, not have top-down mandates about supporting people through their sexual escapades and identity crises. The shark looks awfy wee from all the way up here.

oh and i hate the terrm " allies" . it infers we are little weaklings and need support of stronger peoples.  No thanks Ive managed up until now dealing with any homophobia etc. Their patronising support isn't needed in my case. 

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Dear lord....labels labels labels...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 29/10/2021 at 10:59, JamesM48 said:

oh and i hate the terrm " allies" . it infers we are little weaklings and need support of stronger peoples.  No thanks Ive managed up until now dealing with any homophobia etc. Their patronising support isn't needed in my case. 

 

 

It really is all so patronising.  Almost feel like we should be tapping 'minorities' (of whatever kind they may be) on the head as we speak to them.

 

Awww look it is a little gay man, I will be your supporter and strength -  let me wave this rainbow flag.

 

I would love just one day without labels.  I would go all out and say a day without labels would see a lot less anger and hatred than a day with labels.

 

Infact, even the label 'minority' is patronising as ****!

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12 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

It really is all so patronising.  Almost feel like we should be tapping 'minorities' (of whatever kind they may be) on the head as we speak to them.

 

Awww look it is a little gay man, I will be your supporter and strength -  let me wave this rainbow flag.

 

I would love just one day without labels.  I would go all out and say a day without labels would see a lot less anger and hatred than a day with labels.

 

Infact, even the label 'minority' is patronising as ****!

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17 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I gie up

 

 

 

 

 

Don't worry Sir - plenty of days still to keep it all going.  This month (November) alone sees:

 

1st  Islamophobia Awareness Day

2nd Eliminating Unconscious Bias Day

4th International Stress Awareness Day (just in-case anyone was unaware of stress)

13th World Kindness Day

14th Inter Faith Week

17th Attracting Diverse Talent from Within the Community Day

18th Active Bystanders to Allies Day (WTF!!)

20th Trans Day of Remembrance

25th International Day for Elimination of Violence Towards Women Day

 

This is no joke.  these are all actual 'things'.

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40 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Don't worry Sir - plenty of days still to keep it all going.  This month (November) alone sees:

 

1st  Islamophobia Awareness Day

2nd Eliminating Unconscious Bias Day

4th International Stress Awareness Day (just in-case anyone was unaware of stress)

13th World Kindness Day

14th Inter Faith Week

17th Attracting Diverse Talent from Within the Community Day

18th Active Bystanders to Allies Day (WTF!!)

20th Trans Day of Remembrance

25th International Day for Elimination of Violence Towards Women Day

 

This is no joke.  these are all actual 'things'.

Ohh ! Why can’t we just have a “ “human being “ day ?   That’s what we all have in common . Instead of the divisive different labels which are increasing every day . 

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On 29/10/2021 at 10:59, JamesM48 said:

oh and i hate the terrm " allies" . it infers we are little weaklings and need support of stronger peoples.  No thanks Ive managed up until now dealing with any homophobia etc. Their patronising support isn't needed in my case. 

At my work, I've not opted to be an LGBTQ+ Ally. 

 

I'm hoping that doesn't tag me as a homophobe or transphobe. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, CF11JamTart said:

At my work, I've not opted to be an LGBTQ+ Ally. 

 

I'm hoping that doesn't tag me as a homophobe or transphobe. 

 

 

Unsure what you mean? Opting our or in at work? 

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1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

Unsure what you mean? Opting our or in at work? 

Not "volunteering" to be an Ally, as a late 40s straight bloke. 

 

We're all being encouraged to be Aliies. The company is very keen to get its Stonewall creds and climb the league table.

 

I suppose I'm not massively keen on the pronouns in email footers and "I'm an Ally" lanyards. Feels a wee bit like virtue signally. 

 

And in danger of conflating sexuality with gender identification. 

 

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7 minutes ago, CF11JamTart said:

Not "volunteering" to be an Ally, as a late 40s straight bloke. 

 

We're all being encouraged to be Aliies. The company is very keen to get its Stonewall creds and climb the league table.

 

I suppose I'm not massively keen on the pronouns in email footers and "I'm an Ally" lanyards. Feels a wee bit like virtue signally. 

 

And in danger of conflating sexuality with gender identification. 

 

Well done. I would totally be against it if they did this as my work as its just virtual signalling really.  Pathetic. 

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I try to be even minded. I understand the world has changed. However this trans issue is a a part of the larger 'woke' agenda. What started as a recognition that some people are confused over their sexuality has now morphed in to wholesale acceptance that gender is fluid. This is an absurd idea. There are 2 sexes, male and female. This is biological fact. There is no getting away from it. Should we be incompassionate to people who are experiencing a psychological problem? No we shouldn't. We should recognise that they are experiencing confusion, we should be understanding and we should help to overcome the issue. Violence of aggression toward such people is wrong and should not be accepted. This does not mean that we agree with men who identify as women or vice versa. It has now gotten to the point where stating what I said above 'There are 2 sexes, male and female. This is biological fact' has effectively become a criminal offence. This is utter madness. We are now unable to make one of the most basic fundamental statements about humanity. Our children are being taught that a political idea which is direct opposition to the facts should be accepted as truth. This is incredibly dangerous. What other 'truths' are we going to forced to accept. This is our new Orwellian reality. As always, disagree if you wish. 

 

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6 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Ohh ! Why can’t we just have a “ “human being “ day ?   That’s what we all have in common . Instead of the divisive different labels which are increasing every day . 

Couldn't agree more. Identity politics causes division, not unity.

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11 minutes ago, JimboJambo1874 said:

I try to be even minded. I understand the world has changed. However this trans issue is a a part of the larger 'woke' agenda. What started as a recognition that some people are confused over their sexuality has now morphed in to wholesale acceptance that gender is fluid. This is an absurd idea. There are 2 sexes, male and female. This is biological fact. There is no getting away from it. Should we be incompassionate to people who are experiencing a psychological problem? No we shouldn't. We should recognise that they are experiencing confusion, we should be understanding and we should help to overcome the issue. Violence of aggression toward such people is wrong and should not be accepted. This does not mean that we agree with men who identify as women or vice versa. It has now gotten to the point where stating what I said above 'There are 2 sexes, male and female. This is biological fact' has effectively become a criminal offence. This is utter madness. We are now unable to make one of the most basic fundamental statements about humanity. Our children are being taught that a political idea which is direct opposition to the facts should be accepted as truth. This is incredibly dangerous. What other 'truths' are we going to forced to accept. This is our new Orwellian reality. As always, disagree if you wish. 

 

Good posting . Sex and gender have deliberately been conflated by many in the trans community . It has caused confusion for some . But the reality is there are only two sexes . This cannot be disputed but is ! 

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7 hours ago, CF11JamTart said:

At my work, I've not opted to be an LGBTQ+ Ally. 

 

I'm hoping that doesn't tag me as a homophobe or transphobe. 

 

 

Similar. Survey posted out recently.

 

One of the Qs was literally Do you feel that you are an ally to the LBQT+ members of staff?

 

Well, first, I don't know any alphabet-spaghetti colleagues. And secondly, if they want to put their dicks in things that I don't, or fancy munching some rug, then that's up to them and shouldn't be part of what we talk about at work.

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8 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Similar. Survey posted out recently.

 

One of the Qs was literally Do you feel that you are an ally to the LBQT+ members of staff?

 

Well, first, I don't know any alphabet-spaghetti colleagues. And secondly, if they want to put their dicks in things that I don't, or fancy munching some rug, then that's up to them and shouldn't be part of what we talk about at work.

Your getting a triple gif ! It’s very rarely awarded 

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2 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Good posting . Sex and gender have deliberately been conflated by many in the trans community . It has caused confusion for some . But the reality is there are only two sexes . This cannot be disputed but is ! 

Absolutely,  James. Happy to concur. There are only two sexes - that is a biological fact. 

The miniscule minority of the population who are confused or "trapped in the wrong body" should be treated respectfully but without impinging on the rights of the overwhelming majority.

 

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9 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Absolutely,  James. Happy to concur. There are only two sexes - that is a biological fact. 

The miniscule minority of the population who are confused or "trapped in the wrong body" should be treated respectfully but without impinging on the rights of the overwhelming majority.

 

Yep . No such thing as being “ trapped in the wrong body “ Enzo . That’s another load of un scientific gibberish to appeal to the dafties ( wind crowd) who mainly support many of those , sorry to say deluded people , about their bodies and “ identity “ . Yes we are allowed to have our views but when delusional thinking becomes a type of “ reality “ and then Impinges on others rights , that’s a massive issue . IMO 

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8 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Your getting a triple gif ! It’s very rarely awarded 

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Not quite sure if that’s a triumgif of approval or disdain. 
 

All I do know is that I do have one gay colleague, but I’m not his ally; I’m his colleague. 

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10 hours ago, JamesM48 said:
2 hours ago, jonesy said:

Not quite sure if that’s a triumgif of approval or disdain. 
 

All I do know is that I do have one gay colleague, but I’m not his ally; I’m his colleague. 

 

if they want to put their dicks in things that I don't, or fancy munching some rug, then that's up to them and shouldn't be part of what we talk about at work.

 

 

It was a mix of both Jonesy. I completely agree about you and others feeling you dont need to be " allies" for whatever reasons. I find it a patronising and embarrassing woke thing. Virtual signalling at its worse...I think most people have no issues with gay or lesbian colleagues and vice versa.  I did however feel you narrowing down someone's sexual orientation to just the physical act was a bit harsh. Being gay / lesbian isn't only about that .  Btw i can crude too.   i do believe that them straights are now copying the gays with sticking their dicks in places they maybe shouldn't , both ways. Pegging being a new phenomena . :)  

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38 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

if they want to put their dicks in things that I don't, or fancy munching some rug, then that's up to them and shouldn't be part of what we talk about at work.

 

 

It was a mix of both Jonesy. I completely agree about you and others feeling you dont need to be " allies" for whatever reasons. I find it a patronising and embarrassing woke thing. Virtual signalling at its worse...I think most people have no issues with gay or lesbian colleagues and vice versa.  I did however feel you narrowing down someone's sexual orientation to just the physical act was a bit harsh. Being gay / lesbian isn't only about that .  Btw i can crude too.   i do believe that them straights are now copying the gays with sticking their dicks in places they maybe shouldn't , both ways. Pegging being a new phenomena . :)  

Without wishing to derail the thread, it'd be interesting to hear what, other than the sexual acts, being homosexual involves? Not trying to be wide or ignorant :) 

 

And... when my wife suggested pegging I thought she just needed a hand hanging up the washing. :( 

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4 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Without wishing to derail the thread, it'd be interesting to hear what, other than the sexual acts, being homosexual involves? Not trying to be wide or ignorant :) 

 

And... when my wife suggested pegging I thought she just needed a hand hanging up the washing. :( 

Eating 

 

Sleeping 

 

Drinking 

 

Having an emotional connection to someone ( if you so wish) 

 

Working

 

Going to the footie ( admittedly not as many out homosexuals do) 

 

Going out for meals / pubs/ clubs. concerts

 

Trying to get through this wretched existence really :)  

 

So the same as straights really apart from pegging.....

 

 

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5 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Eating 

 

Sleeping 

 

Drinking 

 

Having an emotional connection to someone ( if you so wish) 

 

Working

 

Going to the footie ( admittedly not as many out homosexuals do) Not so sure about that. I heard, back in 2006, that all the Hibs fans were gay.

 

Going out for meals / pubs/ clubs. concerts

 

Trying to get through this wretched existence really :)  

 

So the same as straights really apart from pegging.....

 

 

 

Which is kind of what I was getting at. Except for who they are attracted to and enjoy getting touchy feely with, I don't see homosexual people as being any different from heterosexual people. Why they would then need 'allies' is beyond me.

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5 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 

Which is kind of what I was getting at. Except for who they are attracted to and enjoy getting touchy feely with, I don't see homosexual people as being any different from heterosexual people. Why they would then need 'allies' is beyond me.

I knew you were getting at that hence my reply. !  The allies pish is from " Stonewall" .  They are not fit for purpose now as they have been taken over by  extremist's and their original remit for equality for LGB has been completely overshadowed by the militant trans brigade who have infiltrated their organisation. Id be very happy to see Stonewall them lose their funding. 

 

Anyway its s Saturday. Its match day. We are heading out soon for a coffee and roll....( never really drink before a match)  Have a great Saturday.  

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6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I knew you were getting at that hence my reply. !  The allies pish is from " Stonewall" .  They are not fit for purpose now as they have been taken over by  extremist's and their original remit for equality for LGB has been completely overshadowed by the militant trans brigade who have infiltrated their organisation. Id be very happy to see Stonewall them lose their funding. 

 

Anyway its s Saturday. Its match day. We are heading out soon for a coffee and roll....( never really drink before a match)  Have a great Saturday.  

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:berra: :jjockio::omfg::arry: :shockio:

 

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8 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

:berra: :jjockio::omfg::arry: :shockio:

 

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Its true.. Only drink on maybe a Derby or a cup game or away game. Im paranoid ill get pissed and go arse over tit down the stairs on one of the stands lol....I nearly did that a few years back at a  Celtic game. I left at half time as i was reeking. 

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2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Its true.. Only drink on maybe a Derby or a cup game or away game. Im paranoid ill get pissed and go arse over tit down the stairs on one of the stands lol....I nearly did that a few years back at a  Celtic game. I left at half time as i was reeking. 

 

Yeah, fair enough, I s'pose. Watching Hearts stone-cold sober though... :ermm: Tried it once - never again! :phface:

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Just now, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Yeah, fair enough, I s'pose. Watching Hearts stone-cold sober though... :ermm: Tried it once - never again! :phface:

Its not as bad as you think. :) 

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On 06/11/2021 at 13:18, JamesM48 said:

Eating 

 

Sleeping 

 

Drinking 

 

Having an emotional connection to someone ( if you so wish) 

 

Working

 

Going to the footie ( admittedly not as many out homosexuals do) 

 

Going out for meals / pubs/ clubs. concerts

 

Trying to get through this wretched existence really :)  

 

So the same as straights really apart from pegging.....

 

 

Good answer, James.  👍

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3 hours ago, CF11JamTart said:

This is the future, James. 

 

I'm picking up the Kathleen Stock from the library tomorrow. 

Its so worrying .

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