Boyces beard Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: I'm a bit of an A League fan and I've been given a bit of stick in the past for talking up its quality. Looks like our manager and me agree..... Never seen much of the A league myself Jonno, how is the standard compared to the premier league here in Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jambo Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Melbourne Jambo said: Yeah, couldn't break into an exception midfield for regular minutes. Since then he's played two seasons for Wellington and been fantastic. Yep as above. But remember plenty Jambos live down here. Pretty sure it would have been word of mouth or ex hearts connections. How the feck would they know about Devlin? Does the A League get shown on Sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jambo Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Melbourne Jambo said: Yeah, couldn't break into an exception midfield for regular minutes. Since then he's played two seasons for Wellington and been fantastic. Yep as above. But remember plenty Jambos live down here. Pretty sure it would have been word of mouth or ex hearts connections. How the feck would they know about Devlin? Does the A League get shown on Sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jambo Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Melbourne Jambo said: Yeah, couldn't break into an exception midfield for regular minutes. Since then he's played two seasons for Wellington and been fantastic. Yep as above. But remember plenty Jambos live down here. Pretty sure it would have been word of mouth or ex hearts connections. How the feck would they know about Devlin? Does the A League get shown on Sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18nick74 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 What an advert for Shay Logan's plumbing business. Pre-Shay Leaks all over the place, post-Shay not a leak in sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcjambo Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, jambopilms said: That's hallidays place in the team gone. Thank God. Useful back up/squad player for us but felt we could do better. Was rather underwhelmed with him and Irving against Championship sides…..hopefully we have a faster more dynamic midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, Aussie Jambo said: Yep as above. But remember plenty Jambos live down here. Pretty sure it would have been word of mouth or ex hearts connections. How the feck would they know about Devlin? Does the A League get shown on Sky? It's on Sky or BT Sport, I can't recall. Definitely shown though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jambo Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Melbourne Jambo said: Yeah, couldn't break into an exception midfield for regular minutes. Since then he's played two seasons for Wellington and been fantastic. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Curtains for Haring and/or McEneff. Always sceptical about signing players from that league but the boys stats do look decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Haring and Beningame is an exciting midfield pairing. Hopefully Devlin will be the replacement for Halliday because I'm gonna miss Haring if he goes and we'll be losing one of the best midfielders in the SPFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Newton51 said: Description of Devlin tho would explain why we are paying 2 clubs Newcastle Jets are pleased to announce the signing of workhorse midfielder Cameron Devlin for the next two A-League seasons. The 23-year-old, who was named today as an Olyroos Olympic train on squad member, is an exciting addition to the squad, adding defensive steel and attacking finesse to the centre of the park. Attacking finesse!! Wouldnt that be luvverly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Haring and Beningame is an exciting midfield pairing. Hopefully Devlin will be the replacement for Halliday because I'm gonna miss Haring if he goes and we'll be losing one of the best midfielders in the SPFL. same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jambo Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 ****ing sent it 3 times. Then a thumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustybin Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Re Shankland, if we are interested in him then better hurry as I fully expect Hib5 to go for him if they lose Nisbet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Why does it have to curtains for anybody? We need to strengthen the squad to cover for injuries but also keep standards high with competition for places. We know Robbie loves to tinker so if we can raise the bar with increased quality it doesn't mean we have to chase folk out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustybin Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: same Why would Haring leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gordon Ramsay said: Curtains for Haring and/or McEneff. Always sceptical about signing players from that league but the boys stats do look decent. Got a link to his stats? I think it’s more likely Pollock will go out on loan … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I'd say you want 4/5 cm choices. He'd prob give us 6 Dev, Ben, Pete, Halliday, McEneff, Pollock. Perhaps all slightly different in style. Halliday decent utility but pretty happy he prob won't be a mainstay. McEneff and Pollock somewhat horses for courses as more attacking central options. Leaves Beni, Pete and Cam fighting for the 2 pivotal roles in our system. Then there's the enigma that is Jamie Walker. Say it again, RWB next and most important imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, TheBigO said: I'd say you want 4/5 cm choices. He'd prob give us 6 Dev, Ben, Pete, Halliday, McEneff, Pollock. Perhaps all slightly different in style. Halliday decent utility but pretty happy he prob won't be a mainstay. McEneff and Pollock somewhat horses for courses as more attacking central options. Leaves Beni, Pete and Cam fighting for the 2 pivotal roles in our system. Then there's the enigma that is Jamie Walker. Say it again, RWB next and most important imo. I just can’t see Halliday being dropped. He must have played more minutes than almost anyone under Neilson? With Michael Smith and Ginnelly on the right I think our priority is really centre back. If Souttar and Halkett were both out we’d be in huge trouble and I don’t rate Halkett that highly … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: Why does it have to curtains for anybody? We need to strengthen the squad to cover for injuries but also keep standards high with competition for places. We know Robbie loves to tinker so if we can raise the bar with increased quality it doesn't mean we have to chase folk out the door. Exactly ! Also this season we play far more games etc , we still at least need a centre half and a striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I'm not sure Haring deserved the love in that he gets tbh. It's been a while since he was at his best. I don't understand how he gets a free ride and Halliday gets talked down. I understand he changed the game on Saturday but I think people are still living in the pre injury days. I think Beni/Haring are probably going to be fighting it out with Halliday/McEneff/Devlin fighting for the other place. I'd say it's bye bye McEneff as things stand...unless he can slot in out wide but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, dustybin said: Re Shankland, if we are interested in him then better hurry as I fully expect Hib5 to go for him if they lose Nisbet. We arent in for Shankland and never were it was just nonsense started on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 CB, RB and Striker still needed. If Gnando has spat the dummy, then 2 Strikers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Anybody still gutted we let Andy Irving leave? He wasn't good enough, particularly for the 3-4-3. who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Haring will be offski I reckon Hope not. Solid player and one i'd like to keep. Why'd do you reckon he'll be off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, Rick Sanchez said: I'm not sure Haring deserved the love in that he gets tbh. It's been a while since he was at his best. I don't understand how he gets a free ride and Halliday gets talked down. I understand he changed the game on Saturday but I think people are still living in the pre injury days. I think Beni/Haring are probably going to be fighting it out with Halliday/McEneff/Devlin fighting for the other place. I'd say it's bye bye McEneff as things stand...unless he can slot in out wide but I doubt it. Have to agree, i just dont see Haring getting back to the level he was performing at before his injury. Still think McEneff can contribute however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Been playing with Soapy II at the Olympics, I wonder if we could have the Souttar bros? Even briefly. I've been saying this fairly quietly for a while, because it is a big ask to getting close to replicating, but Neilson seems to be following what Bielsa does closely. I know he likes a bit of murderball in training, basically where the ball never goes out of play and its run attack, win it back run attack incessantly. He has just signed 2 midfielders with the energy for that system. But the system does usually operate with an anchor. I can guarantee you are going to see a very energetic Hearts team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leisham38 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: We arent in for Shankland and never were it was just nonsense started on here. Exactly this. It was that bad a rumour on here the press didn’t even bother running with it or mention us being interested. That’s a sign it’s really off the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: I'm not sure Haring deserved the love in that he gets tbh. It's been a while since he was at his best. I don't understand how he gets a free ride and Halliday gets talked down. I understand he changed the game on Saturday but I think people are still living in the pre injury days. I think Beni/Haring are probably going to be fighting it out with Halliday/McEneff/Devlin fighting for the other place. I'd say it's bye bye McEneff as things stand...unless he can slot in out wide but I doubt it. well he was the difference on Saturday as you said. Even a player not at his best who can do that against Celtic, is why there's a lve in for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, gorgieheart said: Have to agree, i just dont see Haring getting back to the level he was performing at before his injury. Still think McEneff can contribute however. Haring covers a few options for us as does McEneff. It’s going to be a long season and a decent squad will be a must if we are going to progress. A RWB, a left sided CB and a striker that offers a different option to what we have are all that’s needed now. Edited August 5, 2021 by Deevers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Hope not. Solid player and one i'd like to keep. Why'd do you reckon he'll be off? Devlin and Beni are both defensive midfielders. As is Haring, can’t have 3 in a squad. Suggestions that he would be a backup centre half. 1) I doubt he would want that and 2) it would not be good business to have one of our highest players (I guess) as a backup option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Been playing with Soapy II at the Olympics, I wonder if we could have the Souttar bros? Even briefly. I've been saying this fairly quietly for a while, because it is a big ask to getting close to replicating, but Neilson seems to be following what Bielsa does closely. I know he likes a bit of murderball in training, basically where the ball never goes out of play and its run attack, win it back run attack incessantly. He has just signed 2 midfielders with the energy for that system. But the system does usually operate with an anchor. I can guarantee you are going to see a very energetic Hearts team I can guarantee you the same intellectually bankrupt posters will throw around words like ‘mundane’ ‘ ‘boring’ and negative even if we do suddenly become the Scottish Leeds… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-1Jambo Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 So any updates on big Gnando? Was it all Gillian Gish or did he walk out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Devlin and Beni are both defensive midfielders. As is Haring, can’t have 3 in a squad. Suggestions that he would be a backup centre half. 1) I doubt he would want that and 2) it would not be good business to have one of our highest players (I guess) as a backup option We will play a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 or 4-2-3-1 during the season. All three formation tend to implement 2 defensive mids. They also tend to pick up a few cards. I think 3 or 4 are required in the squad … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: I'm not sure Haring deserved the love in that he gets tbh. It's been a while since he was at his best. I don't understand how he gets a free ride and Halliday gets talked down. I understand he changed the game on Saturday but I think people are still living in the pre injury days. I think Beni/Haring are probably going to be fighting it out with Halliday/McEneff/Devlin fighting for the other place. I'd say it's bye bye McEneff as things stand...unless he can slot in out wide but I doubt it. I completely agree with you. I'm not sure he has it in him to do it consistently. It's not really a criticism of Haring, he's just been very unlucky with injuries. I think he looks uncomfortable when running. Folk ignore the bad games which have been more than frequent unfortunately. It's a shame for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: We arent in for Shankland and never were it was just nonsense started on here. Sorry mate, I know for 100% certainty we have been and are still interested. Whether we can or will stump up the cast Utd want is a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Hope not. Solid player and one i'd like to keep. Why'd do you reckon he'll be off? Player swap with Dundee Utd for Shankland after Walker said no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: well he was the difference on Saturday as you said. Even a player not at his best who can do that against Celtic, is why there's a lve in for him. Halliday has contributed more to our club recently than Haring. He might not deserve a love in but he isn't even receiving any respect due to who he supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Devlin and Beni are both defensive midfielders. As is Haring, can’t have 3 in a squad. Suggestions that he would be a backup centre half. 1) I doubt he would want that and 2) it would not be good business to have one of our highest players (I guess) as a backup option I think for our system if you are going to be playing 2 at a time 3 would be the bare minimum we will need. Injuries and suspensions alone means we will require at least 3 players capable of sitting in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: I can guarantee you the same intellectually bankrupt posters will throw around words like ‘mundane’ ‘ ‘boring’ and negative even if we do suddenly become the Scottish Leeds… I watch Leeds a lot, all I can say for the moment is we seem to be trying to do some things that are very very similar. The concern, though this is not a criticism, Robbie isn't Bielsa, and the players have to be prepared to be the fittest team in the League to make it work well. Otherwise you will be shredded. Its a bold move though it seems from Neilson, I dont think he is looking at defensive mids at all, but ones that can cover the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Sertse said: Player swap with Dundee Utd for Shankland after Walker said no Jamie Walker will be lucky to get a move to someone like Dundee Utd when his contract is up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Bacon Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, Sertse said: I have a suspicion on the account name of Barry Anderson on here, have for a long time. They post in a similar way he writes articles. I won't say who but they are a resident gobshite. You might have to narrow that down a bit 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sertse said: Player swap with Dundee Utd for Shankland after Walker said no I would say Walker and even McEneff are going to struggle many games, think Pollock is ahead in that queue. Right wing back I really want or a centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Rick Sanchez said: Halliday has contributed more to our club recently than Haring. He might not deserve a love in but he isn't even receiving any respect due to who he supports. Halliday doesn't deserve the stick he gets on here. He gives 100% every time he steps on the park for us and contributes in some way every game. I can't blame the guy for a loving a team as much as I love Hearts, even if I hate said team to the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 After the last 2 Aussies, I think I'll reserve judgment on this one until I see him in action. Difficult to pick up gems from the LOI & the A League. Our track record hasn't been great so hoping this guy bucks the trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Rick Sanchez said: Jamie Walker will be lucky to get a move to someone like Dundee Utd when his contract is up. His attitude seems to be the biggest thing that holds him back. I've no idea why but he never seems interested. Plays well every now and again, scores every now and again but just looks not bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumb Up Emoji Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, Sir Gio said: I watch Leeds a lot, all I can say for the moment is we seem to be trying to do some things that are very very similar. The concern, though this is not a criticism, Robbie isn't Bielsa, and the players have to be prepared to be the fittest team in the League to make it work well. Otherwise you will be shredded. Its a bold move though it seems from Neilson, I dont think he is looking at defensive mids at all, but ones that can cover the pitch he's definitely looking at players who can over-run teams. which will work really well if we get fitness levels up, I reckon. GMS already looks way fitter/sharper. for instance. People are also assuming we will play the same formation each game. Naturally we will have 2/3 formations we rotate and will utilise players accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, iainmac said: After the last 2 Aussies, I think I'll reserve judgment on this one until I see him in action. Difficult to pick up gems from the LOI & the A League. Our track record hasn't been great so hoping this guy bucks the trend. Apart from Garrucio who was the other one? I was trying to think who we had after the McGowans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Biffa Bacon said: You might have to narrow that down a bit 🤣 They pay a subscription and comment on almost every thread. Might not be him but other people have said it before as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, iainmac said: After the last 2 Aussies, I think I'll reserve judgment on this one until I see him in action. Difficult to pick up gems from the LOI & the A League. Our track record hasn't been great so hoping this guy bucks the trend. Got a better feeling about this one. Brighton were credited with an interest, reputation seems to be a lot higher than the latest recruits from the region. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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