Jambof3tornado Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 53 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Good point, hope it’s a wow signing. I'm preparing to be very underwhelmed, set the bar low and maybe I'll be pleased, but I genuinely cant see it. More mediocre dross to soak up the wage bill, oh and maybe a few with a dubious medical history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Leisham38 said: Far too sensible a post for this forum. The standard of player folk on here expect Savage and Neilson to convince to come to Hearts is cloud cuckoo stuff. And then heaven forbid one of those players doesn’t hit the ground running and have the season of their life Pretty much, for the guy to progress it was the uglies or down south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, Jambof3tornado said: I'm preparing to be very underwhelmed, set the bar low and maybe I'll be pleased, but I genuinely cant see it. More mediocre dross to soak up the wage bill, oh and maybe a few with a dubious medical history. Definitely, hopefully be pleasantly surprised like a Gordon/GMS/MceEneff type signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Leisham38 said: Far too sensible a post for this forum. The standard of player folk on here expect Savage and Neilson to convince to come to Hearts is cloud cuckoo stuff. And then heaven forbid one of those players doesn’t hit the ground running and have the season of their life This. If we want proven quality at top 3 of the Scottish Premiership level or better it'll be someone in their 30s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, DH1986 said: We surely can’t still be in advanced talks with Ginnellly? 😂 Claiming that as one of the three currently in discussions is quite laughable tbh. There can be absolutely nothing left to discuss…..if he hasn’t already agreed to sign for us then he isn’t going to. Not offering enough. Trying to do signings on the cheap is never going to work. Agents too clever for that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 46 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: A quick look shows Luton have a 10k stadium, turnover of 7.7m, wage bill of £6.58m and average pay of £126k. All of that is lower than us, can’t see them paying him much more than us to be honest. In most recent accounts turnover was £14.5m with £3m profit. That was from first season back in championship. Current years numbers will be higher. Pot for Championship clubs much improved in coming season and they have another couple of players who are likely to be sold for decent money this summer. They will be paying double what we currently are at least. Certainly for new signings to replace those who leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Pretty much, for the guy to progress it was the uglies or down south. Disagree with this 100%. A player like Campbell at his age can absolutely progress with us. We've seen it loads of times before with players we've signed. He absolutely could break into the Scotland team with us for example. He just won't progress his salary as much as he could elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I honestly don’t believe there’s a single player we can realistically sign that will appease everyone at this stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Leisham38 said: Far too sensible a post for this forum. The standard of player folk on here expect Savage and Neilson to convince to come to Hearts is cloud cuckoo stuff. And then heaven forbid one of those players doesn’t hit the ground running and have the season of their life Think you’ll find there were discussions and offers but it couldn’t touch Luton unfortunately. The most important thing to be drawn from it is when people say we dont make any effort to get these guys and we actually do. It is true though that signing a lot of players suggested becomes a non starter due to football monies up here compared to England 4 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Exactly. The days of us attracting high end players over EPL clubs, particularly in the championship are gone. The tv money as you say blows us out of the water, and will continue to do so until some sort of restructure is brought into play for the Scottish game from top to bottom. People don’t realise how much these players are on in that league it’s staggering. This is why Savage’s knowledge of the leagues is so so important. I think that last sentence is very important esp from who we have been looking at or having discussions with. Itll be forgotten though and people will just say **** off hes coming from x or y not Bayern Munich so must be shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Wouldn't mind a wee update from the CEO. ST sales, injury recoveries, contract extensions, progress with transfers. Anything else he chooses to comment on. And before I get berated, I'm not expecting specifics in all cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: In most recent accounts turnover was £14.5m with £3m profit. That was from first season back in championship. Current years numbers will be higher. Pot for Championship clubs much improved in coming season and they have another couple of players who are likely to be sold for decent money this summer. They will be paying double what we currently are at least. Certainly for new signings to replace those who leave. this made me laugh 😉🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 56 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: A quick look shows Luton have a 10k stadium, turnover of 7.7m, wage bill of £6.58m and average pay of £126k. All of that is lower than us, can’t see them paying him much more than us to be honest. All this shows is how mad English football is. A League One club with a 10K ground (ST sales half ours maybe?) and yet a wage bill that big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Exactly. The days of us attracting high end players over EPL clubs, particularly in the championship are gone. The tv money as you say blows us out of the water, and will continue to do so until some sort of restructure is brought into play for the Scottish game from top to bottom. People don’t realise how much these players are on in that league it’s staggering. This is why Savage’s knowledge of the leagues is so so important. It’s odd though, as all you say makes sense yet there’s people claiming to be ITK that we’re at the very least after someone who was playing in the EPL just last season. So unless it was a youngster still on youth contract pennies then any player in that league will be way out of our price range you’d think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, sadj said: this made me laugh 😉🤣 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, BackOfTheNet said: It’s odd though, as all you say makes sense yet there’s people claiming to be ITK that we’re at the very least after someone who was playing in the EPL just last season. So unless it was a youngster still on youth contract pennies then any player in that league will be way out of our price range you’d think. I wouldn’t claim to be ITK, but I’ve been provided with snippets this window that come from someone who I trust implicitly and would have no reason not to believe and they have said that pen is on the paper for a couple of deals hence why I’m confused about the delays in the announcements, we have nothing to lose. I’m not fortunate enough to know who but down south is definitely where we’re focusing on. The premier league player rumour is strange and I’m not fully convinced that will come to fruition but I’d love to be pleasantly surprised on that front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Loan players may be the best option this coming season if it's quality we're after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coatbridgejambo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, brypie04 said: Mulgrew has signed for Dundee Utd Good news imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: I wouldn’t claim to be ITK, but I’ve been provided with snippets this window that come from someone who I trust implicitly and would have no reason not to believe and they have said that pen is on the paper for a couple of deals hence why I’m confused about the delays in the announcements, we have nothing to lose. I’m not fortunate enough to know who but down south is definitely where we’re focusing on. The premier league player rumour is strange and I’m not fully convinced that will come to fruition but I’d love to be pleasantly surprised on that front. Oh that wasn’t a go at you (or anyone for that matter) it’s just a strange dynamic that these Windows have on this forum. Like when we were simultaneously talking about Anderson spending lots of cash to bring a player in and Jake Hastie coming in. Just didn’t add up. And losing out on Campbell (if we were ever in for him in the first place) makes sense as English Championship clubs can offer far more money, as well as what I’ve said previously a promise to challenge for promotion which most clubs in that league can say. But then apparently we’re in for an EPL player. All very curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Belt 1874 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, BigAlim said: I honestly don’t believe there’s a single player we can realistically sign that will appease everyone at this stage That's probably because the team, to progress to where most of us want them to be, will take more than one or two decent signings. Whoever signs, their fitness levels and attitude better be top class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: In most recent accounts turnover was £14.5m with £3m profit. That was from first season back in championship. Current years numbers will be higher. Pot for Championship clubs much improved in coming season and they have another couple of players who are likely to be sold for decent money this summer. They will be paying double what we currently are at least. Certainly for new signings to replace those who leave. Fair enough I just went with what first numbers that came up, 10k stadium and all that crap when we signed Olly Lee, alongside Tommy Robinson gives me a healthy dislike for this tinpot club . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 192 pages of pure pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Tomorrow it is then 🙂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Fair enough I just went with what first numbers that came up, 10k stadium and all that crap when we signed Olly Lee, alongside Tommy Robinson gives me a healthy dislike for this tinpot club . EFL numbers are staggering. Even if Luton sold every season at top whack season ticket price that would only bring in £4m. They get £7m solidarity payment from the league plus an average of £110k for every home game televised. Add in cup competition income, hospitality and commercial and their base turnover is now about £15-17m. Add on top profit from players sales and they are in a different financial league to us. And that’s Luton. The likes of Birmingham, Bkackburn, Stoke etc are another step up at least. And they are relegation candidates each season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: Tomorrow it is then 🙂. You ITK?😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, merrymac said: You ITK?😳 My level of inside knowledge makes me one amongst many. Mum’s the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, GinRummy said: My level of inside knowledge makes me one amongst many. Mum’s the word. Keep it to yourself GR better not risk a leak to the masses 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Campbell was funded by revenue from season tickets that Luton fans agreed to forego in refunds. Most definitely not flush. The guy wants to play in England for a different challenge, very much doubt the financial rewards are huge at all, not at Luton anyway. Shop window and a change of scenery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Oh that wasn’t a go at you (or anyone for that matter) it’s just a strange dynamic that these Windows have on this forum. Like when we were simultaneously talking about Anderson spending lots of cash to bring a player in and Jake Hastie coming in. Just didn’t add up. And losing out on Campbell (if we were ever in for him in the first place) makes sense as English Championship clubs can offer far more money, as well as what I’ve said previously a promise to challenge for promotion which most clubs in that league can say. But then apparently we’re in for an EPL player. All very curious. Don’t worry I didn’t take it as a go at me. I agree with what you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Jambo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Any folk thinking we had any chance of Campbell were absolutely delusional. Millwall have been known to be interested since January which basically already priced him out for us both financially and more importantly, football-reasons wise. Even if we paid him an absolute fortune, what’s the benefit for him to come to Hearts and play another 100 games in the SPL, where he’s already played 160 games been really impressive, and he’s already got the interest from the English championship which is the aim of the game for any 22 year old SPL player? Exact-a bloody-atly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Spied Aidy White out for a jog in Roslin earlier. Curious where he’ll end up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gershwin said: Spied Aidy White out for a jog in Roslin earlier. Curious where he’ll end up? Probably Whitehill Welfare. Doubt Bonnyrigg would take him Edited June 15, 2021 by A_A wehatethehibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Jambo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gershwin said: Spied Aidy White out for a jog in Roslin earlier. Curious where he’ll end up? Slateburns caravan park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gershwin said: Spied Aidy White out for a jog in Roslin earlier. Curious where he’ll end up? I’m not being cruel but he’d be as well jacking it in. A real shame given he clearly had ability before his injury but his goose is cooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 54 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: I'm preparing to be very underwhelmed, set the bar low and maybe I'll be pleased, but I genuinely cant see it. More mediocre dross to soak up the wage bill, oh and maybe a few with a dubious medical history. No decent player wants to play for Phoodle. It will be the summer of discontent.😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: No decent player wants to play for Phoodle. It will be the summer of discontent.😑 What about Jack? Queuing to get in or out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Word of the the transfer window will be underwhelmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 If what has been said is true: This is what quality over quantity looks like folks. Deal with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zen Jambo said: Think the development fee cooled any interest in Allan, pretty early on. Although there was no ”fixed fee” as it were and it could have been negotiated. Either he or we were not interested in the other. Edited June 15, 2021 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 After what's happened over the years, this season I hoped we would have a fresh start, sign some good players and finish top 4. I'm not giving up hope yet but at the back of my mind I can't shake the feeling that we'll sign a bunch of huddies and that nothing has changed. I pray that is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 47 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Oh that wasn’t a go at you (or anyone for that matter) it’s just a strange dynamic that these Windows have on this forum. Like when we were simultaneously talking about Anderson spending lots of cash to bring a player in and Jake Hastie coming in. Just didn’t add up. And losing out on Campbell (if we were ever in for him in the first place) makes sense as English Championship clubs can offer far more money, as well as what I’ve said previously a promise to challenge for promotion which most clubs in that league can say. But then apparently we’re in for an EPL player. All very curious. The Anderson on the Board announcement has confused everyone because it came on the back of Robbie saying we were still in the bargain basement for transfers. Mixed messages that will not be resolved until we see some scarves above heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, Nookie Bear said: The Anderson on the Board announcement has confused everyone because it came on the back of Robbie saying we were still in the bargain basement for transfers. Mixed messages that will not be resolved until we see some scarves above heads. Anderson doesn't officially join the board until 1st July Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 57 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Loan players may be the best option this coming season if it's quality we're after. Ack no, maybe one or 2 but any more and you stifle what little we have coming through and have to rebuild AGAIN next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: If what has been said is true: This is what quality over quantity looks like folks. Deal with it Neilson just signs dozens of wage thief journeymen every single window. We need to get rid of these clowns so young players get more chances. Neilson hasn’t signed enough journeymen players yet. We’ve not got enough cover, we’re going to have to put kids on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 44 minutes ago, merrymac said: You ITK?😳 Itk in that he knows tomorrow comes after today, Same as the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister T Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: 192 pages of pure pish. And it's not even close to being finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, kila said: Anderson doesn't officially join the board until 1st July Will be remembered as Big Bucks day. A host of euros stars lined up on the pitch desperate to play for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Tomorrow it is then 🙂. 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said: No they weren’t. We’ll take the source for what it is but the open goal guys were saying today they were in today and doing the bleep test. I suppose they might know considering they are pals with Halliday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Pity this isn't like box sets and I could binge to the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: 👀 Hahaha. Deja vu 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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