A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said: We’ll take the source for what it is but the open goal guys were saying today they were in today and doing the bleep test. I suppose they might know considering they are pals with Halliday. A bleep test isn’t training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Itk in that he knows tomorrow comes after today, Same as the rest of us. Was aware of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbaws Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: What's DKW/MS? Don't Know What. Maybe Someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: A bleep test isn’t training. It’s running. Is running not part of training? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, jr ewing said: Not offering enough. Trying to do signings on the cheap is never going to work. Agents too clever for that one. Hang on…. After all these months we still haven’t offered Ginnelly enough money to sign ?!?! What we going in with…..£1 a day increments? Edited June 15, 2021 by DH1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 The first few days of preseason is mainly just analysis and tests so they can see what shape the players have come back. Weight, body fat etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Hang on…. After all these months we still haven’t offered Ginnelly enough money to sign ?!?! What we going in with…..£1 a day incriminations ? If we are accusing him every day he is never gonna sign😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: EFL numbers are staggering. Even if Luton sold every season at top whack season ticket price that would only bring in £4m. They get £7m solidarity payment from the league plus an average of £110k for every home game televised. Add in cup competition income, hospitality and commercial and their base turnover is now about £15-17m. Add on top profit from players sales and they are in a different financial league to us. And that’s Luton. The likes of Birmingham, Bkackburn, Stoke etc are another step up at least. And they are relegation candidates each season. Indeed, once you get into the championship and are reasonably successful you can earn money you never have, and we are allegedly competing with them for players. We help to pay for it by paying for subscriptions and frequenting pubs that pay through the nose for the privilege whilst our clubs get scraps off the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, bazman said: The first few days of preseason is mainly just analysis and tests so they can see what shape the players have come back. Weight, body fat etc Everyone shoving Halkett to the front 🤔😜? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bazman said: The first few days of preseason is mainly just analysis and tests so they can see what shape the players have come back. Weight, body fat etc I’m not being argumentative but why does that take a few days? Edited June 15, 2021 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, GinRummy said: It’s running. Is running not part of training? It's a test. It's not training. Today would've been about getting the "zero" level to see where the players are at. Probably be more tests tomorrow to measure recovery times and things like that. Then training will start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Everyone shoving Halkett to the front 🤔😜? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, A_A wehatethehibs said: It's a test. It's not training. Today would've been about getting the "zero" level to see where the players are at. Probably be more tests tomorrow to measure recovery times and things like that. Then training will start Got you now. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: I’m not being argumentative but why does that take a few days? Because each player will have about 10 different tests and there's 20-odd of them to get through 😂 Edited June 15, 2021 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, GinRummy said: I’m not being argumentative bit why does that take a few days? Because it's complicated. They don't just "guess" how fit players are / eyeball it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, GinRummy said: I’m not being argumentative but why does that take a few days? Lots of different tests with lots of players. And with Covid will only be allowed so many in at a time. But even after that's done it will just be all running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, A_A wehatethehibs said: Because it's complicated. They don't just "guess" how fit players are / eyeball it. Just now, bazman said: Lots of different tests with lots of players. And with Covid will only be allowed so many in at a time. But even after that's done it will just be all running Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, GinRummy said: Thanks. I usually go for a drive on my day off when I can't get the wee man to sleep so may go have a nosey tomorrow and see what I can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I guess technically the fact that we've not signed anyone, it does now mean any player who joins "has not had a full pre season" so that's that excuse tucked away for later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: No decent player wants to play for Phoodle. It will be the summer of discontent.😑 Oh look its a pathetic attempt to be shitty about the club again from IL. I honestly am starting to think AB and RN steal your pocket money everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, A_A wehatethehibs said: I guess technically the fact that we've not signed anyone, it does now mean any player who joins "has not had a full pre season" so that's that excuse tucked away for later I would say that would kick in if the player is signed from a week before the season starts and has joined as a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, bazman said: I usually go for a drive on my day off when I can't get the wee man to sleep so may go have a nosey tomorrow and see what I can see Nice one. A wee report on here afterwards would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: If there's one positive it's that this thread has shown Bongz knows nothing. What did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I’m not being argumentative but why does that take a few days? I think they do it maybe 6-8 at a time and it’s just time consuming doing for it for everyone. They usually put some bits of it on social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I guess technically the fact that we've not signed anyone, it does now mean any player who joins "has not had a full pre season" so that's that excuse tucked away for later Craig Gordon's doomed then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, sadj said: What did he say? Posted a video of Charlie Mulgrew and the assumption was that meant we were signing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Well I am for one ****ing raging but hay that’s pre season 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Really looking forward to seeing Kante again. For my money, one of the best players to emerge in decades. I imagine he may be inconsistent as he didnt appear to figure strongly in the list of contenders for individual awards in England this season. Fixture congestion due to covid may have played a part in that. Why could he not have been born in Broomhouse?😍❤ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, GinRummy said: Posted a video of Charlie Mulgrew and the assumption was that meant we were signing him. Lol annoyed i never saw that 😞. Have we had any other guesses from him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I think they do it maybe 6-8 at a time and it’s just time consuming doing for it for everyone. They usually put some bits of it on social media. Cheers. Boy practicing collapsing in a heap during one part of that 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Wait a minute, guys are saying running and tests isn’t pre season 😂? Of course It’s pre season. It’s fitness. Pre season isn’t just ball work. The players are in, therefore it’s pre season 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, GinRummy said: Cheers. Boy practicing collapsing in a heap during one part of that 😀 I had to sit down to watch it 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, sadj said: Lol annoyed i never saw that 😞. Have we had any other guesses from him? A video of raith playing when they hammered Dunfermline and another one, bit more cryptic, of a song called bongo something or other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, KyleLafferty said: Wait a minute, guys are saying running and tests isn’t pre season 😂? Of course It’s pre season. It’s fitness. Pre season isn’t just ball work. The players are in, therefore it’s pre season 😂 Yeah, it’s not pre pre season is it 🤔🤷🏾♂️😆?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, GinRummy said: A video of raith playing when they hammered Dunfermline and another one, bit more cryptic, of a song called bongo something or other. Sure it wasnt the um bongo advert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said: We’ll take the source for what it is but the open goal guys were saying today they were in today and doing the bleep test. I suppose they might know considering they are pals with Halliday. My mate works in Oriam and said they have seen dribs and drabs of the squad in and out, but not the numbers he would on a normal training day. (This isn't the source I mentioned earlier in thread that I trust). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, RustyRightPeg said: My mate works in Oriam and said they have seen dribs and drabs of the squad in and out, but not the numbers he would on a normal training day. (This isn't the source I mentioned earlier in thread that I trust). Have protocols changed for this season or is it still nae breakfast , train , **** off home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, sadj said: Have protocols changed for this season or is it still nae breakfast , train , **** off home Not got a clue mate, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, RustyRightPeg said: Not got a clue mate, sorry Would be interesting to know. Guessing they have to at least to an extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, sadj said: Would be interesting to know. Guessing they have to at least to an extent. To be honest I dont think they will have as Covid rules in Scotland are still restrictive, I doubt they will be relaxed in any way until we get at least to Level 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, sadj said: Sure it wasnt the um bongo advert? Would have been preferable to the song he posted. Edited June 15, 2021 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I’m not being argumentative but why does that take a few days? Have you seen the list of measurements/tests they take? Junior did a trial at stenny age 14 and the sports science guy had each trialist for 2 hours just for tests, sprinting from start, standing jumps,there was about 5 pages of measurements they wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 46 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Hang on…. After all these months we still haven’t offered Ginnelly enough money to sign ?!?! What we going in with…..£1 a day increments? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Jambof3tornado said: Have you seen the list of measurements/tests they take? Junior did a trial at stenny age 14 and the sports science guy had each trialist for 2 hours just for tests, sprinting from start, standing jumps,there was about 5 pages of measurements they wanted. Had no idea tbh. No clue that it was so in depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 6 weeks to first League game on Saturday, not that far away really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 If we all agree that we sign the right players rather than just any player then what is the problem Unless you are so caught up in it all that you demand action now irrespective of the consequences then just give it a bit of time....few clubs have done any major transfer business and with many players still under contract until end of June movement will be limited in the meantime We can all wish things are in place now but it never has been the case and never will be that everything is done and dusted before pre season testing then training Behind the scenes work is being done and from that we will see signings, near misses etc which is just how it is at all clubs Short term we have enough to play pre season ( plus see some younger players) and the group stages of the 'League Cup' and of course I'd like a couple in well before we play a league match on the 31st July but it is not a situation where it all has to happen in the next few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, CJGJ said: If we all agree that we sign the right players rather than just any player then what is the problem Unless you are so caught up in it all that you demand action now irrespective of the consequences then just give it a bit of time....few clubs have done any major transfer business and with many players still under contract until end of June movement will be limited in the meantime We can all wish things are in place now but it never has been the case and never will be that everything is done and dusted before pre season testing then training Behind the scenes work is being done and from that we will see signings, near misses etc which is just how it is at all clubs Short term we have enough to play pre season ( plus see some younger players) and the group stages of the 'League Cup' and of course I'd like a couple in well before we play a league match on the 31st July but it is not a situation where it all has to happen in the next few days Yeah, there's two things attached to that as well. English and European contracts don't expire until the 30th 2) Any foreign player will need a work permit, which would take time. So, it is understandable why we haven't announced any signings. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Had no idea tbh. No clue that it was so in depth. One of the tests was a standing jump to measure something using various cameras, a lot of the measurements taken are to compare to previous seasons and to ensure players are at their peak in time for matchday 1. Clearly we have a lot of players to get through, no idea how big our sport science setup is but imagine theres a good few of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Think Kabongo Tshimanga was the cryptic clues No idea if anything in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Alan_R said: Think Kabongo Tshimanga was the cryptic clues No idea if anything in it Is it an anagram 🤔? Hate crosswords 😜. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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