Gards Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Smithee said: It really only means that the constituency in question liked someone else more. But if his party have decided that he's someone they really want in, it's a wise move. Maybe he's a specialist or a big name in the party but just wasnt fancied in that seat That's kind of a **** you to the voters of that constituency? You didn't like our candidate....tough we're going to get them in anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Pretty poor that you can lose in the constituency and still be elected on the list. For instance, Anas Sarwar. I am sure I read somewhere that all of the main 4 party leaders plus Willie Rennie have been elected on the list at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Did Alex Salmond not sit in both houses? Yes. I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer: https://www.parliament.scot/-/media/files/spice/factsheets/msps/msps-with-dual-mandates-14-april-2021.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, The Wrinkly Ninja said: I am sure I read somewhere that all of the main 4 party leaders plus Willie Rennie have been elected on the list at some point. I think so to. Did NS not miss out completely, one time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Did Alex Salmond not sit in both houses? Lots of MPs/MSPs did in 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, redjambo said: Yes. I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer: https://www.parliament.scot/-/media/files/spice/factsheets/msps/msps-with-dual-mandates-14-april-2021.pdf 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, The Wrinkly Ninja said: Lots of MPs/MSPs did in 1999. Greedy *******s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: That Rise and fall of the SNP thread needs binned, BTW. Best thing on the telly mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Smithee said: Best thing on the telly mate Smithee, I bet Alex Salmond is bealin' with all those new women msps. Edited May 8, 2021 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Scotland Act 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_Act_2016 Live and learn! I guess he'll have to write to the MSP he only has because of the FPTP element he doesn't like. Edited May 8, 2021 by Smithee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Smithee, I bet Alex Salmond is bealin' with all those new women msps. Poor Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Smithee said: Poor Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Findlay Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Did Alex Salmond not sit in both houses? I believe he did, but was wrong to do so imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Gards said: That's kind of a **** you to the voters of that constituency? You didn't like our candidate....tough we're going to get them in anyway? Is it? They got whoever it was they voted for, that's the point of voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 SNP would be mad to take the Presiding Officer role. They will probably give it to Willie Rennie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 short of a SNP majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 That Jardine thingy telling people not give up and get fighting for what you believe in. Except SNP and pro independence voters. Ya munter. Oh and see if Tory/Labour /Libdems want to play the percentage game, form a single unionist party. Til then, you are single parties and have had yer baws kicked by the SNP. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gards Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Smithee said: Is it? They got whoever it was they voted for, that's the point of voting. But they didn't....they voted the person to be shit (got 2000 votes in 3rd place) but because their second vote was tory they get the person anyway? I do agree with PR but i find there's something not quite right there. To me, if you are named in the constituency vote, you shouldn't be in the list names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, hughesie27 said: 1 short of a SNP majority. A very good result for me, to be honest. Pro-independence parties in charge and the Greens in a position to influence SNP policies rather than the SNP being able to do everything without their help. I would just far rather have seen the Labour Party and the Lib Dems being the main opposition than the Tories. But you can't have everything in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Lothian List Miles Briggs (CON) Alison Johnstone (GRN) Sue Webber (CON) Sarah Boyack (LAB) Jeremy Balfour (CON) Foysol Choudhury (LAB) Lorna Slater (GRN) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Aw one short that’s a shame still a minority government despite all the krankie spraffing enjoyed today looking forward to doing it again in 5 years - the fish will be on loose women by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 That got 46 votes...😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, manaliveits105 said: Aw one short that’s a shame still a minority government despite all the krankie spraffing enjoyed today looking forward to doing it again in 5 years - the fish will be on loose women by then Independence parties look to be in a slightly better position than before, the government has a slightly larger majority. Unionists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: That got 46 votes...😐 Gammon dressed as lamb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I probably casted my last ever vote for the SNP. Independence or not, I'll back to Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 So, the final result: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Smithee said: Gammon dressed as lamb She's only 35 years old apparently. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Randy Marsh said: She's only 35 years old apparently. 😂 Dog years though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Aw one short that’s a shame still a minority government despite all the krankie spraffing enjoyed today looking forward to doing it again in 5 years - the fish will be on loose women by then They were bragging about an overall majority in the weeks leading up to the election and going on about opinion polls. Tactical voting worked a treat in stopping them getting an overall majority. Absolutely pummeled in Edinburgh west. Propped up by the Greens again means Bojo can get them telt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Can't wait for another 5 years of division and hatred. Braw.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Smithee said: Gammon dressed as mutton. FTFY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Keir Starmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gards Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: They were bragging about an overall majority in the weeks leading up to the election and going on about opinion polls. Tactical voting worked a treat in stopping them getting an overall majority. Absolutely pummeled in Edinburgh west. Propped up by the Greens again means Bojo can get them telt But that's quite clearly not correct Nucky. Both SNP and Greens had another referendum in their manifesto. They combine and they have the majority in parliament....hence they have the mandate per their manifesto to push for another referendum. Or am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 As long as the Presiding Officer is from an opposition party then the SNP are technically not a minority government as that makes it 64-64, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, skinnybob72 said: Can't wait for another 5 years of division and hatred. Braw.... And it's going to be more intense than ever. We'll end up like NI used to be, where we're shooting and bombing each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I probably casted my last ever vote for the SNP. Independence or not, I'll back to Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Pretty poor that you can lose in the constituency and still be elected on the list. For instance, Anas Sarwar. Running against Sturgeon wasn’t too clever really. Has Fraser ever run in a constituency 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Scotland Act 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_Act_2016 Cheers 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: And it's going to be more intense than ever. We'll end up like NI used to be, where we're shooting and bombing each other Calm down ffs 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gards said: But that's quite clearly not correct Nucky. Both SNP and Greens had another referendum in their manifesto. They combine and they have the majority in parliament....hence they have the mandate per their manifesto to push for another referendum. Or am I missing something here? Nope, not missing anything. For a parliament that was set up to prevent a majority, they've come very, very close again. Some of the unionists are clutching at straws big time whilst patting themselves on the back for selling out their principles and voting for their ideological enemies to little actual effect - they still got hammered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, dobmisterdobster said: It proves that First-past-the-post is the superior electoral system. I hope Westminster never tries to do a PR. What a mess. I suppose do countries grind to a stand still whichever process is in place. FPTP, may get stuff through a lot quicker, but also some pretty disgusting legislation too, that say 55% of the country and some of your own voters think is wrong. Having said all that, there is a lot more negotiating and agreement with legislation and final bills that goes on in the background that many parties ever admit to. Edited May 8, 2021 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gards said: But that's quite clearly not correct Nucky. Both SNP and Greens had another referendum in their manifesto. They combine and they have the majority in parliament....hence they have the mandate per their manifesto to push for another referendum. Or am I missing something here? You’re right, it’s definitely him that’s missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 On 26/04/2021 at 10:30, manaliveits105 said: Has nothing to do with the Scottish Parliamentary Elections wrong thread lets stay on topic and concentrate on removing our own habitual lying leader - Nicoliar and her dishonest party Krankie oot ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 System doing exactly what it was designed to do, which was stopping a one party majority. We just need to get on with it and hope that our politicians surprise us and do their best for Scotland and its people. We can but hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, dobmisterdobster said: It proves that First-past-the-post is the superior electoral system. I hope Westminster never tries to do a PR. What a mess. Ah, so you'd prefer to see 62 SNP 11 everyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 50 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Pretty poor that you can lose in the constituency and still be elected on the list. For instance, Anas Sarwar. Or Patrick Harvie. Or Lorna Slater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 SNP gain one more seat to finish on 64, one short of an overall majority. Tories stay where they were on 31. Labour lose two seats and end on 22. Greens gain two and end on 8. Libdems lose one seat and end on 4. We'll do it again in another 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Calm down ffs 🙈 Just sick of all the division. It's constant in Scotland. Indyref, Brexit, Indeyref2. A wildcat referendum would be the straw that broke the camel's back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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