Sid Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Not a lot. Prize money is poor. Did we not over-achieve in last Season’s Scottish Cup or fo only negatives count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, Thomaso said: No because in 1967 they finished second in the top league and lost in the final of the European Cup Winners Cup - hope that answers your query. 😉 Stil the same posters saying it's not that bad. Ffs how far do we have to sink before they realise that the club are getting it wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jambo92 said: Its a interesting ironic stat, reality is he the James Keating of Scottish managers. As others have said he probably knew he was out of his depth going up with Dun Utd and thought he was on for an easy gig here. Under Budge he was going to the safest job in Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, Auldbenches said: Stil the same posters saying it's not that bad. Ffs how far do we have to sink before they realise that the club are getting it wrong? Amazing how the same old apologists are starting to reappear with their inane excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, graygo said: But would you have posted that before Tuesday? Tuesday was brutal in the extreme and has rightly pissed us all off but some of the hyperbole is ridiculous. You're not getting to take away "hibsed it" and replace it with "budged it". Leave that shite to the vermin supporters to try. Check my posts if you like I've been concerned since Cathro his appointment surprised me without doubt but I trusted the club knew what they were doing he should have been punted after the PT reaction game instead he got a pre season to embarrass himself and us in the league cup. Then came the search for a manager debacle again I thought let's take our time don't panic let's get it right we put all our eggs in the Freedman basket and I'm pretty sure Budge was off on holiday through that as well. Then when that fell through we had no plan B so we had the right man there all the time. Again I thought fine let Levein steady the ship of his making and we'll have a root and branch close season and get this club back on track. Instead we repeated the mistakes with Cathro with the evidence in front of our eyes kept way to long and left hanging about afterwards. Stendel I'm not a fanboy and his record was poor but first chance she got she brought back neilson. And now we are where we are and I stand by my statement we used to laugh at Petrie's incompetence with Farmer keeping them afloat. Tell me what's the difference with Budge and Anderson now because I can't see any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Auldbenches said: It's the last 4 years that have been brutal on the extreme. I'm amazed that some posters think the fans are being reactionary. Maybe if the club planned rather than being reactionary we wouldn't be in this place. She said that levein is a bit haphazard, I think it's the whole club. I read earlier today that Neilson's been found out because he can't get the players motivated for one off cup ties. To me that's people looking for something that backs up their arguments because the league form doesn't. What's been wrong the last 4 years because I've been at a few semi finals and finals in that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: No he hasn’t. Explain your point please? Can you explain why you aren't as angry as other fans? You haven't criticised one thing. So you think neilson is worth keeping on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, graygo said: I read earlier today that Neilson's been found out because he can't get the players motivated for one off cup ties. To me that's people looking for something that backs up their arguments because the league form doesn't. What's been wrong the last 4 years because I've been at a few semi finals and finals in that time. The football has been shite and we have finished lower every year over that period. You think half a dozen decent occasions make the last 4 years worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, graygo said: I read earlier today that Neilson's been found out because he can't get the players motivated for one off cup ties. To me that's people looking for something that backs up their arguments because the league form doesn't. What's been wrong the last 4 years because I've been at a few semi finals and finals in that time. Are you serious? 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Auldbenches said: Stil the same posters saying it's not that bad. Ffs how far do we have to sink before they realise that the club are getting it wrong? It is bad, or at least Tuesdays result was. Don't kid yourself on that it couldn't be worse though, 16 points clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, graygo said: It is bad, or at least Tuesdays result was. Don't kid yourself on that it couldn't be worse though, 16 points clear. Arrrrrgh......and there it is “16 points clear!” 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, glynnlondon said: Check my posts if you like I've been concerned since Cathro his appointment surprised me without doubt but I trusted the club knew what they were doing he should have been punted after the PT reaction game instead he got a pre season to embarrass himself and us in the league cup. Then came the search for a manager debacle again I thought let's take our time don't panic let's get it right we put all our eggs in the Freedman basket and I'm pretty sure Budge was off on holiday through that as well. Then when that fell through we had no plan B so we had the right man there all the time. Again I thought fine let Levein steady the ship of his making and we'll have a root and branch close season and get this club back on track. Instead we repeated the mistakes with Cathro with the evidence in front of our eyes kept way to long and left hanging about afterwards. Stendel I'm not a fanboy and his record was poor but first chance she got she brought back neilson. And now we are where we are and I stand by my statement we used to laugh at Petrie's incompetence with Farmer keeping them afloat. Tell me what's the difference with Budge and Anderson now because I can't see any. What's the difference between Budge and Anderson? Is that a serious question or have I misinterpreted it? One owns the club the other doesn't is the obvious answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Auldbenches said: The football has been shite and we have finished lower every year over that period. You think half a dozen decent occasions make the last 4 years worth it? And he was accusing others of “ looking for something that backs up their arguments” when he is doing exactly the same thing! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Thomaso said: Arrrrrgh......and there it is “16 points clear!” 😂 Sorry, 16 points clear but played a game more than our nearest "challenger". That better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said: That's absolutely not what I said. I said if we hadn't of built the new stand we would have a rather large pot of money in FoH. The new stand is a smoke screen. We have already give the club a stash load of cash and where has that taken us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: https://www.londonhearts.com/scores/man/aamanagersbywpc.html Interesting that Neilson (2nd term), has the 2nd best win ratio of any permanent manager in our history ... Having already had a pop at Budge and FOH for being condescending (!), I'm going to completely outdo myself now by railing against lies, damn lies and statistics. If you look down that list, Jim Jefferies - the perfect manager for Hearts in his first spell especially - is way, way down it. Alex MacDonald, who dragged the club up by its bootstraps, is below Graham Rix: who is somehow ahead of all of Doddie, JJ, Sergio and Levein (a huge success first time round). Of course, that's because Rix inherited our best side since Tommy Walker's time. On a similar note, Paulo could only have achieved what he did with a very hefty wage bill: Hearts weren't even paying his salary as I recall. We couldn't afford him! So we're not comparing like with like at all here. Comically, Joe Jordan is above a whole bunch of great Hearts managers whose boots he wasn't fit to lace either. And that almost entirely owes to a pretty freakish run in the first half of 91/2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Auldbenches said: The football has been shite and we have finished lower every year over that period. You think half a dozen decent occasions make the last 4 years worth it? I made a vow after 1998 not to get too down on anything again, I plan to keep that vow. Yes I enjoy cup runs, who doesn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Thomaso said: And he was accusing others of “ looking for something that backs up their arguments” when he is doing exactly the same thing! 😂 It's human nature, nothing wrong with doing that. I'm not apologising for defending my club and it's staff when it's being attacked. Whether that be other team's supporters or as is the case just now, our own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, graygo said: What's the difference between Budge and Anderson? Is that a serious question or have I misinterpreted it? One owns the club the other doesn't is the obvious answer. Petrie ran the club farmer bankrolled it. Unless I missed something the chat about losing the backers would put Anderson in the farmer roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, glynnlondon said: Petrie ran the club farmer bankrolled it. Unless I missed something the chat about losing the backers would put Anderson in the farmer roll Sorry chief, I'm not following you. Has someone mentioned losing the backers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, graygo said: I made a vow after 1998 not to get too down on anything again, I plan to keep that vow. Yes I enjoy cup runs, who doesn't? I never asked if you like cup runs, I asked if you think the last 4vyears have been successful? We have finished lower each season so surely that is failure? We are shite and brora have just confirmed that. You are easily pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, graygo said: Sorry chief, I'm not following you. Has someone mentioned losing the backers? Every other post on here ad nauseum for quite a while. One of the main reasons continually given for keeping Budge at the top of the tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true-jambo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, graygo said: What's the difference between Budge and Anderson? Is that a serious question or have I misinterpreted it? One owns the club the other doesn't is the obvious answer. You've misinterpreted. He was comparing the Petrie Farmer partnership with Budge and Anderson's collaboration at Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Thomaso said: And he was accusing others of “ looking for something that backs up their arguments” when he is doing exactly the same thing! 😂 He enjoyed the cup runs though. He might've even enjoyed this season's. Just someone else who supports the current regime coming out swinging at everyone because they have lost the argument that budge etc will bring success. Baffling how anyone would rather take it out on their fellow fans than the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, graygo said: I read earlier today that Neilson's been found out because he can't get the players motivated for one off cup ties. To me that's people looking for something that backs up their arguments because the league form doesn't. What's been wrong the last 4 years because I've been at a few semi finals and finals in that time. 21 minutes ago, Auldbenches said: The football has been shite and we have finished lower every year over that period. You think half a dozen decent occasions make the last 4 years worth it? 10 minutes ago, graygo said: I made a vow after 1998 not to get too down on anything again, I plan to keep that vow. Yes I enjoy cup runs, who doesn't? 2 minutes ago, Auldbenches said: I never asked if you like cup runs, I asked if you think the last 4vyears have been successful? We have finished lower each season so surely that is failure? We are shite and brora have just confirmed that. You are easily pleased. Mate, either you're being economical with the truth or god forbid have an underlying reason for not knowing what you have posted but that's twice tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/robbie-neilson-makes-hearts-failed-20255922 "If you want to go and win every week, then people go and support Man United or Man City, teams like that." A serial loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, graygo said: Mate, either you're being economical with the truth or god forbid have an underlying reason for not knowing what you have posted but that's twice tonight. Ok I think you are just looking to argue with folk criticising budge and neilson. It's over, they have ****ed up the team and need to go. She is a charlatan and a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, graygo said: Sorry, 16 points clear but played a game more than our nearest "challenger". That better? Oh yes much better! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, glynnlondon said: Every other post on here ad nauseum for quite a while. One of the main reasons continually given for keeping Budge at the top of the tree Every other post? I've looked back a few pages and apart from yours I can't see it mentioned. Is it fact that if Ann Budge goes the backers go too because last I heard they were backing the club for the next 5? years and Ann Budge was handing over the club in the summer anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, graygo said: It's human nature, nothing wrong with doing that. I'm not apologising for defending my club and it's staff when it's being attacked. Whether that be other team's supporters or as is the case just now, our own. If the attacks were unjustified, fair enough. But I know you well enough to know what a bullshitter you are. PS If you don't know by now what the difference is between AB & James Anderson then you must be in a lunatic asylum. PPS I'm sure you DO know the difference between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, true-jambo said: You've misinterpreted. He was comparing the Petrie Farmer partnership with Budge and Anderson's collaboration at Hearts Ok, can't see how it's the same but fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, graygo said: It's human nature, nothing wrong with doing that. I'm not apologising for defending my club and it's staff when it's being attacked. Whether that be other team's supporters or as is the case just now, our own. Defend Cathro.....disaster Defend Levein......disaster Defend Neilson...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, LMc said: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/robbie-neilson-makes-hearts-failed-20255922 "If you want to go and win every week, then people go and support Man United or Man City, teams like that." A serial loser. Cheeky bassa. He wants us all to stick together. Aye, so he can keep his job after that? Did he stick with us before fecking off to milton Keynes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Auldbenches said: He enjoyed the cup runs though. He might've even enjoyed this season's. Just someone else who supports the current regime coming out swinging at everyone because they have lost the argument that budge etc will bring success. Baffling how anyone would rather take it out on their fellow fans than the club. I did enjoy the cup runs, didn't you? Strange thing to use against me. I don't support the current regime, I couldn't give a shiny shite who owns the club. All I'm hearing on here is we need to get rid of our shite owner and get a good one, we need to get rid of our shite manager and get a good one, we need to get rid of our shite players and get good ones. Simple eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 If you fail an audition you rarely get a second chance, so **** off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Defend Cathro.....disaster Defend Levein......disaster Defend Neilson...... Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle1874 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Defend Cathro.....disaster Defend Levein......disaster Defend Neilson...... Third time lucky ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, Kyle1874 said: Third time lucky ? 4th - Stendel. But let's not split hairs.😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, LMc said: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/robbie-neilson-makes-hearts-failed-20255922 "If you want to go and win every week, then people go and support Man United or Man City, teams like that." A serial loser. What a cheeky barsteward! We are Hearts fans and don’t expect to win every week, but we expect to win against a bunch of plumbers and posties! Yet again his comments confirm Neilson is clueless and frankly thick as shit! And as for asking the fans to stick together WE ARE WE ALL WANT YOU OUT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, LMc said: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/robbie-neilson-makes-hearts-failed-20255922 "If you want to go and win every week, then people go and support Man United or Man City, teams like that." A serial loser. Quality trolling, man is done and he knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, graygo said: I did enjoy the cup runs, didn't you? Strange thing to use against me. I don't support the current regime, I couldn't give a shiny shite who owns the club. All I'm hearing on here is we need to get rid of our shite owner and get a good one, we need to get rid of our shite manager and get a good one, we need to get rid of our shite players and get good ones. Simple eh? There are justified reasons for people wanting rid of our shite owner etc. I think you will have to get used to hearing this until the changes are made. You can't expect fand just to sit in silence after what we have suffered. Not our fault that you don't like to see constant criticism, blame budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle1874 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, NANOJAMBO said: 4th - Stendel. But let's not split hairs.😄 Forgot about stendel lol let’s just hope the next one is the right man I will not hold my breath 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, LMc said: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/robbie-neilson-makes-hearts-failed-20255922 "If you want to go and win every week, then people go and support Man United or Man City, teams like that." A serial loser. Another outing for his " part & parcel" mantra. Get him out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: Having already had a pop at Budge and FOH for being condescending (!), I'm going to completely outdo myself now by railing against lies, damn lies and statistics. If you look down that list, Jim Jefferies - the perfect manager for Hearts in his first spell especially - is way, way down it. Alex MacDonald, who dragged the club up by its bootstraps, is below Graham Rix: who is somehow ahead of all of Doddie, JJ, Sergio and Levein (a huge success first time round). Of course, that's because Rix inherited our best side since Tommy Walker's time. On a similar note, Paulo could only have achieved what he did with a very hefty wage bill: Hearts weren't even paying his salary as I recall. We couldn't afford him! So we're not comparing like with like at all here. Comically, Joe Jordan is above a whole bunch of great Hearts managers whose boots he wasn't fit to lace either. And that almost entirely owes to a pretty freakish run in the first half of 91/2. As I said above the figures on the LH site quoted by the poster do not even include the Brora game which is a result with much greater significance than many other losses. If you look closer at the statistics Neilson's win ratio this year is below Rix's. Mostly because Rix was able to manage 3 Scottish Cup wins. Also, if we are to take the LH statistics alone as an indicator for who should be in the dugout then the original poster is really advocating for Neilson to be removed and John Mcglynn to be installed on a caretaker basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, graygo said: I did enjoy the cup runs, didn't you? Strange thing to use against me. I don't support the current regime, I couldn't give a shiny shite who owns the club. All I'm hearing on here is we need to get rid of our shite owner and get a good one, we need to get rid of our shite manager and get a good one, we need to get rid of our shite players and get good ones. Simple eh? You have summed it up perfectly! 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, iainmac said: Another outing for his " part & parcel" mantra. Get him out! If Tuesday was an audition I can only assume they don't want to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: If the attacks were unjustified, fair enough. But I know you well enough to know what a bullshitter you are. PS If you don't know by now what the difference is between AB & James Anderson then you must be in a lunatic asylum. PPS I'm sure you DO know the difference between them. I have absolutely no idea why you think I don't know the difference between AB and JA, none whatsoever. JA was compared by another poster to Tom Farmer and AB was compared to Rod Petrie, I don't get those comparisons. I'm not sure what your angle is there to be honest. Edited March 25, 2021 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle1874 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, Japan Jambo said: Quality trolling, man is done and he knows it. That dig at us saying go support Man U really pissed me off he is purposely missing the point we are not a self entitled club that are demanding to win everything all we want is a bit of passion and pride in our play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Thomaso said: What a cheeky barsteward! We are Hearts fans and don’t expect to win every week, but we expect to win against a bunch of plumbers and posties! Yet again his comments confirm Neilson is clueless and frankly thick as shit! And as for asking the fans to stick together WE ARE WE ALL WANT YOU OUT! He doesn’t help himself, does he? It comes across as a dig - almost as if he’s accusing Hearts fans of being glory hunters. Anything that will help deflect from the fact that he has just led Hearts to their worst-ever result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, leginten said: He doesn’t help himself, does he? It comes across as a dig - almost as if he’s accusing Hearts fans of being glory hunters. Anything that will help deflect from the fact that he has just led Hearts to their worst-ever result. His comments are arrogant and a feckin insult - think he’s been reading the happy Clappers on here who have regularly come out with that shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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