Gambo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, graygo said: Well that game was almost as bad as this thread, half the posters on here were the type that used to fight among themselves at the games instead of backing the team when they needed them back in the 70's/80's. We were pish though. Bigger picture......Is backing Neilson backing the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Corstorphine Jambo said: Late doors, we went from Smith, across the midfield to Kingsley. Back across the midfield to Smith. And back across the midfield to Kingsley. And I reckon the Queens midfield had to shuffle no more than 10ft sideways. Embarrassing. Thought both full backs had poor games in general. Our wings offered very little in truth. Only player getting credit tonight is Boyce, even then guilty of over egging it. Halkett bar his scare did ok, Gordon had nothing to do. Only 5 shots tonight, we scored 6 against them in December. Irving and Halliday created nothing Walker tried but just can't string a run together. Disappointing night again. It's not gelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, vladisacoward said: That's certainly my memory of it. To be fair to him, i was in the away end at Greyskull when he scored that hat trick. One of the great days! Sure was brilliant, he seemed Hearts mad , then? Iirc he went pear shaped, no effort etc as if he’d been touched up by them? A long time ago but was he our original snake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Kyle1874 said: It’s not good enough. But out of a very poor game I in IMO think we were the better team QOS were throwing themselves to the ground at every opportunity and getting something for it my point is if we won that no one would of said we did not deserve it on the balance of play Apparently they were brilliant and yet if you change it round and we were the team in blue we would get slaughtered for the way we played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Kyle1874 said: It’s not good enough. But out of a very poor game I in IMO think we were the better team QOS were throwing themselves to the ground at every opportunity and getting something for it my point is if we won that no one would of said we did not deserve it on the balance of play QoS had a comfortable night , very comfortable. The penalty was Hearts first (only ?) shot on target ? You think that standard of play will keep Hearts in the top league next season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: He was at Dundee United last season. You criticize players behind closed doors. Despite a string of average performances its every other teams cup final. We are still comfortable, maybe too comfortable. We need to be playing more as a team, regularly. We will win the League comfortably. We will continue to build a better squad in the summer. Do elaborate on your last point , every signing Robbie has made so far has been dreadful save Gordon who was tried and tested, Ginelly who looks like hes made of glass and possibly the Irish lad although thats not a given Halliday,kingsley,Roberts,Frear, Popescu, GMS, the Dutch lad , all well below par Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beave1874 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, 5-1Jambo said: Think we are trying to play to much football in a crap league. Need to start testing below average goalkeepers and take the tap ins. Trying to score Spanish pass pass score type of goals with players at this level won't work. Thought we started brightly, dodgy pen (surely throwing out a leg and hitting the ground is not a pen). But then, as a few teams have worked out, just get a fast guy to run at us and we back off. Obviously we will piss this league but are we really learning from our mistakes, are we getting any improvement in player performance? Not sure we are. Very well said and my sentiments also. It feels like we are trying too hard to do simple things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, graygo said: Well that game was almost as bad as this thread, half the posters on here were the type that used to fight among themselves at the games instead of backing the team when they needed them back in the 70's/80's. We were pish though. Did we have happy clappers in the 70’s/80’s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, OldGorgie said: Eh! We were outplayed and outthought Eh, naw. QoS defended for their lives and got a jammy penalty when Jones stuck his leg into Kingsley's stride and the ref bought it. That's all they did and I applaud their effort. But "outplayed and outthought" is rubbish. We were p%sh apart from the first 10 minutes and the last ten. Halliday was a liability tonight. No penetration from him just pass back, sideways do the minimum. That changed when Naismith came on (and he should have been on in the 60th minute not the last ten!). That substitution changed everything: Halliday going off and Naismith on was a double espresso and got us out of jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Hoyle Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I have no idea why it happens so often. Sometimes it’s lack of options in front of the player in possession but other times there are options but we take the always easier option of passing sideways or back. I’m not blaming Robbie for creating this problem, it happened regularly with Levein and even with Stendel against the ‘lesser sides’. I am blaming him for not addressing it sooner. It’s one thing instructing the players to be patient and it’s another to accept them showing no urgency whatsoever. I made a point of watching Halliday and Irving tonight. Agree totally what you are saying. There is a complete lack of urgency to take the ball and make things happen. It results in us making passes sideways for no reason at all. It’s so easy for teams to defend against. They give us the ball knowing we won’t do anything with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Gambo said: Bigger picture......Is backing Neilson backing the team? Not at all, he's not the answer whatever the question is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just another below average performance.......been far too many of them this season for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: You think ? You think he lays into them after yet another dire performance ? If he does , it's still not working. I think he does considering ive heard a few players say he lets loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Fozzyonthefence said: He went to France then a spell at Sunderland before the Huns. Ah ,there we go , memories not what it was ,sorry , forgot the Sunderland bit👎🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Neilson is more interested in controlling the game than scoring goals. That is unacceptable to the vast majority of Hearts fans. He needs to change or go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Did we have happy clappers in the 70’s/80’s? Did we ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, ramrod said: Do elaborate on your last point , every signing Robbie has made so far has been dreadful save Gordon who was tried and tested, Ginelly who looks like hes made of glass and possibly the Irish lad although thats not a given Halliday,kingsley,Roberts,Frear, Popescu, GMS, the Dutch lad , all well below par Hang on, are they Robbie signings? I thought Savage was doing the signings now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kyle1874 said: It’s not good enough. But out of a very poor game I in IMO think we were the better team QOS were throwing themselves to the ground at every opportunity and getting something for it my point is if we won that no one would of said we did not deserve it on the balance of play Stevo did. 😏 Anyway all about different opinions. Maybe this will give them a kick up the arse and things will improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, KyleLafferty said: I think he does considering ive heard a few players say he lets loose. They don't seem to take any notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGorgie Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Eh, naw. QoS defended for their lives and got a jammy penalty when Jones stuck his leg into Kingsley's stride and the ref bought it. That's all they did and I applaud their effort. But "outplayed and outthought" is rubbish. We were p%sh apart from the first 10 minutes and the last ten. Halliday was a liability tonight. No penetration from him just pass back, sideways do the minimum. That changed when Naismith came on (and he should have been on in the 60th minute not the last ten!). That substitution changed everything: Halliday going off and Naismith on was a double espresso and got us out of jail. Name one occasion when we looked like scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Did we have happy clappers in the 70’s/80’s? Always had them thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, credit card said: Yes but Sir George but I reckon we had more backwards passes tonight than the Egg Chasers did against England. It is eye bleeding week after week. Perversely the egg chasers actually booted the ball forward early, tactics that won the game. First 20 minutes we were getting in behind then stopped. Our wings were awful tonight, just didn't play well enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Boyce was very good for the most part. It might even be his best match for the sheer volume of hold up work he got through. Walker kept at his task without creating much. Everyone else was ****ing rotten. Naismith managed to produce one flick to rescue us and should have been given 30 mins. We win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) Why does Halliday get flack on here but Irving never 🤨? Atleast Halliday has a bit fight in him, Irving should be back in the reserves Edited February 12, 2021 by KyleLafferty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, OldGorgie said: Name one occasion when we looked like scoring. In the first fifteen minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, NANOJAMBO said: Did we ****. Aye we did, a lot more than we do now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, KyleLafferty said: I think he does considering ive heard a few players say he lets loose. Halliday, Irving, GMS, Halkett , Walker ? Do the players take him seriously - those crap performances say otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy Hoyle said: I made a point of watching Halliday and Irving tonight. Agree totally what you are saying. There is a complete lack of urgency to take the ball and make things happen. It results in us making passes sideways for no reason at all. It’s so easy for teams to defend against. They give us the ball knowing we won’t do anything with it. You wouldn't have to move your head very far. A more static pair of midfielders will be hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 McFadden, "Kingsley impeded Jones, its a penalty". Kingsley was goal side and not preventing jones from going toward the ball. No coincidence he went down soon as he's in the box. A few dives on other occasions too. Fortunate draw from a rubbish match. Need to get back on a proper surface. Hope there's no injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, KyleLafferty said: Why does Halliday her flack on here but Irving never 🤨? Atleast Halliday has a bit fight in him, Irving should be back in the reserves Fair play, Irving was awful tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladisacoward Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, maggieb said: Ah ,there we go , memories not what it was ,sorry , forgot the Sunderland bit👎🏻 My memory just as bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, graygo said: Aye we did, a lot more than we do now too. Not on the terraces we didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Thank you Naisy. More in 10 minutes than the others in 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerryjambo41 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 That was awful . Robbie obviously has forgotten what it's like when we come back to Tynecastle after a bad result , he could be the first Hearts manager to be sacked without any crowds. The minimum I expect is %100 effort , did we see that tonight ? Still too much side to side getting nowhere . The referee was garbage but got us out of jail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, graygo said: Hang on, are they Robbie signings? I thought Savage was doing the signings now. Most of them were post Savage tbf, Budge has appionted shite after shite during her tenure so jury has to be out on Savage given her track record of appointments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGorgie Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Eh, naw. QoS defended for their lives and got a jammy penalty when Jones stuck his leg into Kingsley's stride and the ref bought it. That's all they did and I applaud their effort. But "outplayed and outthought" is rubbish. We were p%sh apart from the first 10 minutes and the last ten. Halliday was a liability tonight. No penetration from him just pass back, sideways do the minimum. That changed when Naismith came on (and he should have been on in the 60th minute not the last ten!). That substitution changed everything: Halliday going off and Naismith on was a double espresso and got us out of jail. Absolute rubbish. When did Naismith score or fire in a direct shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 We have the players to have won 5 nil tonight. Sadly Robbie never picked them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said: I can see what RN was saying. The first bounce on astro kills the ball, makes it difficult to predict and control... but, as you say, they fecking train on it! Nowhere near good enough tonight.... after starting off well. We've got a state of the art facility that has astro turf. We should have been training on it all week. No excuses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: We have the players to have won 5 nil tonight. Sadly Robbie never picked them. Who were they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Hoyle Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, merrymac said: You wouldn't have to move your head very far. A more static pair of midfielders will be hard to find. Agreed. Imagine that as a midfield pair in the Premier. It gives me the absolute fear!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanHearts Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Pitch did look tricky. Frozen plastic. But no excuse for the level of performance.. Manager takes most of the blame imo. Pedestrian, passive, aimless pish. Boyce & to a lesser extent Smith did OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, HMFC01 said: McFadden, "Kingsley impeded Jones, its a penalty". Kingsley was goal side and not preventing jones from going toward the ball. No coincidence he went down soon as he's in the box. A few dives on other occasions too. Fortunate draw from a rubbish match. Need to get back on a proper surface. Hope there's no injuries. We were ****ing dire but imo a draw was fair. QoS never threatened us in 90 minutes so it can't be said they deserved to win. Sadly, the Above paragraph is where we are under Budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, OldGorgie said: Absolute rubbish. When did Naismith score or fire in a direct shot FFS he was only on for ten minutes and did more than Halliday achieved in 80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, Yoda said: We've got a state of the art facility that has astro turf. We should have been training on it all week. No excuses! WE were Robbie mentioned it in the pre match interview. Then complained about the pitch in the post match interview. You couldn't make it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 If Jones gets a shoulder over or the line of his run gets across then it's a pen. He didn't. All he did was stick a leg into the mixer and tumbled. Never a penalty. The commentary narrative was a frenzy to portray a stonewall pen. Wanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Thought both full backs had poor games in general. Our wings offered very little in truth. Only player getting credit tonight is Boyce, even then guilty of over egging it. Halkett bar his scare did ok, Gordon had nothing to do. Only 5 shots tonight, we scored 6 against them in December. Irving and Halliday created nothing Walker tried but just can't string a run together. Disappointing night again. It's not gelling The last two games show there is something far wrong. We are not gelling and there seems to be lack of passion and interest from the players apart from two or three. Then we have the manager blaming the pitch, not the referees for a change. Something not quite right at the club methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abiola Dauda Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 We will win the league comfortably. Can't really tell how we will be against teams that don't have 10 men behind the ball until next season. The most disappointing thing about today was the performance but if we had scored first we would have won very comfortably. We won't drop many points when we go ahead and will pick up points fairly often even when we lose the first goal. We get the first goal more often than the other team. It's not pretty to watch but thats in part due to how teams are playing against us. We need a big striker to put balls into when teams are sitting deep so hope the new guy isn't out for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Yoda said: We've got a state of the art facility that has astro turf. We should have been training on it all week. No excuses! Yeah but "when you've got a bank of 4 and 5 in midfield" blah, blah. Wot he said- Jeeze, what did Neilson think was gonna happen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavvy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Kyle1874 said: It’s not good enough. But out of a very poor game I in IMO think we were the better team QOS were throwing themselves to the ground at every opportunity and getting something for it my point is if we won that no one would of said we did not deserve it on the balance of play This 100%, the ref was a sucker for their nonsense all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Victorian said: If Jones gets a shoulder over or the line of his run gets across then it's a pen. He didn't. All he did was stick a leg into the mixer and tumbled. Never a penalty. The commentary narrative was a frenzy to portray a stonewall pen. Wanks. 100%! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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