Official Neilson Out Thread ( merged )

[CloustonHMFC]

2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

the spell under JJ was pretty decent I’d say

What one?

[mitch41]

16 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

 

How did you cope when we lost 6-2 to Hibs under JJ, a much worse and much more embarrassing result? Could you watch him on TV?

 

There's literally nothing worse than getting humped by your local rivals. FFS, most HIbs fans still go on about another humping we got off them they weren't even alive to see. (Luckily we still have the king of derby results that tops the lot.)

We’ve thumped Hibs more times than they’ve beat us. Plus 2 Scottish Cup Finals and 22 games in a row unbeaten but getting put out of the Scottish Cup by a non League Team Brora that must be the worst ever. It must be the worst.

[kingantti1874]

8 minutes ago, CloustonHMFC said:

What one?

the 2nd one

 

Kevin Kyle, Skacel and Temps one

[kingantti1874]

3 minutes ago, mitch41 said:

We’ve thumped Hibs more times than they’ve beat us. Plus 2 Scottish Cup Finals and 22 games in a row unbeaten but getting put out of the Scottish Cup by a non League Team Brora that must be the worst ever. It must be the worst.

it is the worst it isn’t even up for debate . Everyone agrees other than Toque, Robbie Neilson and Ann Budge😂
 

Even SRB said it was a sackable offence. 

[Guest ToqueJambo]

39 minutes ago, siegementality said:

What utter crap. We have 100’s in the bank against Hibs. I’ve never had a Hibee mention the 6-2 or 7-0 games to me since the 5-1 cup final. They know that result tops every other result, including all the 4-0 we handed them. We’ve handed Hibs their arse on a plate so many times there no fecking plates left. To come out with the shite you have completely shows you up for the utter apologist that you are!

 

Now, Brora Rangers. What’s our record against them again.

 

That wasn't my point though was it?

[Guest ToqueJambo]

27 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

it is the worst it isn’t even up for debate . Everyone agrees other than Toque, Robbie Neilson and Ann Budge😂
 

Even SRB said it was a sackable offence. 

 

Losing to Brora anytime, but especially in a crazy weird season like this, is not worse than getting gubbed 6-2 or 7-0 by your local rivals. It's really not.

Edited May 6, 2021 by ToqueJambo

[Guest ToqueJambo]

34 minutes ago, mitch41 said:

We’ve thumped Hibs more times than they’ve beat us. Plus 2 Scottish Cup Finals and 22 games in a row unbeaten but getting put out of the Scottish Cup by a non League Team Brora that must be the worst ever. It must be the worst.

 

I guarantee that if we lose by 4-7 goals to Hibs next season, especially at home, no-one will ever talk about Brora again.

[Debut 4]

53 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

 

How did you cope when we lost 6-2 to Hibs under JJ, a much worse and much more embarrassing result? Could you watch him on TV?

 

There's literally nothing worse than getting humped by your local rivals. FFS, most HIbs fans still go on about another humping we got off them they weren't even alive to see. (Luckily we still have the king of derby results that tops the lot.)

I think a man who’d improved us notably, took us to 2, 4th place finishes, 2, 3rd place finishes (one being a proper league challenge) and won a trophy, will still come unstuck sometimes. That’s the unpredictability of football.

 

Not a great fixture to have that result in but it happened.  
 

But it’s a pathetic attempt to besmirch a man who provided a team in the 90s Neilson could only dream of developing in the same vein.  
 

His derby record was decent. Over 2 spells; 11-4 in wins.  Left undefeated against them in 5 derbies before his sacking. 

[mitch41]

14 minutes ago, Bad Religion said:

Early start tonight Toque. 

Isn’t Toque an Angel who sees nothing wrong in our current Hearts manager in the sense that the Brora defeat wasn’t as bad as Hibs beating us 6-2. That 2-1 defeat to Brora will go down as the most humiliating loss in a competitive game that Hearts have ever, ever played in. Toque the devil of tease, a real wind-up merchant........He Must Be.

Edited May 6, 2021 by mitch41

[mitch41]

11 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I guarantee that if we lose by 4-7 goals to Hibs next season, especially at home, no-one will ever talk about Brora again.

You hope.

[Rocky jamboa]

31 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Losing to Brora anytime, but especially in a crazy weird season like this, is not worse than getting gubbed 6-2 or 7-0 by your local rivals. It's really not.

Garbage. I can't see us ever having a worse result than getting beat off non league Brora. And yes, far worse than getting beat 6-2 and 7-0 off the hobos. At least they are a league team!

[Riccarton3]

1 minute ago, Paulp74 said:

Garbage. I can't see us ever having a worse result than getting beat off non league Brora. And yes, far worse than getting beat 6-2 and 7-0 off the hobos. At least they are a league team!

But 'luckily' we have 5-1.

 

Hibs were inspired by the guy that didn't like crystal and Latapy.

 

Brora were inspired by a postie and bin man, no disrespect.

[NANOJAMBO]

3 minutes ago, Paulp74 said:

Garbage. I can't see us ever having a worse result than getting beat off non league Brora. And yes, far worse than getting beat 6-2 and 7-0 off the hobos. At least they are a league team!

This, but TJ will argue otherwise because to acknowledge it as such would mean admitting Neilson has been a disaster - and he'll never do anything that leads him down that path. 

 

[jr ewing]

44 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

This, but TJ will argue otherwise because to acknowledge it as such would mean admitting Neilson has been a disaster - and he'll never do anything that leads him down that path. 

 

Wait until next season. 😁

[HMFC 86]

9 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

😆, I’ve got him on ignore but people still converse with him and his posts still pop up. 

Me too, but he’s so prolific with his posts and, as you say, people still reply to him.
 

The guy lives his life on here perpetually posting absolute shite

[siegementality]

1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

That wasn't my point though was it?

Your point, do you really have one?!  

 

It would appear your only point in even being on this forum is to try to deflect, by whatever means, any criticism of one of the most unpopular Hearts managers there has been in my lifetime.

 

The mental thing is all you actually do is entrench people in their negative opinions due to your complete lack of reality. If your aim is to change opinion then you are hopeless at it. I’m actually embarrassed for you with some of the shite you come out with.

 

[Boab]

1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Losing to Brora anytime, but especially in a crazy weird season like this, is not worse than getting gubbed 6-2 or 7-0 by your local rivals. It's really not.

I’m afraid mentioning this crazy weird season, as you call it, will backfire on you, mate.

It was because of the pandemic that Brora hadn’t played a game for two months... and still turned up and beat us !

It is worse, mate, it really is !

[Pasquale for King]

16 minutes ago, HMFC 86 said:

Me too, but he’s so prolific with his posts and, as you say, people still reply to him.
 

The guy lives his life on here perpetually posting absolute shite

He seems to have tag teamed out the ring tonight 🙈. 

[kingantti1874]

2 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Losing to Brora anytime, but especially in a crazy weird season like this, is not worse than getting gubbed 6-2 or 7-0 by your local rivals. It's really not.

No you can repeat it as much as you want but you’re wrong 👍🏻

Edited May 6, 2021 by kingantti1874

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 hours ago, siegementality said:

What utter crap. We have 100’s in the bank against Hibs. I’ve never had a Hibee mention the 6-2 or 7-0 games to me since the 5-1 cup final. They know that result tops every other result, including all the 4-0 we handed them. We’ve handed Hibs their arse on a plate so many times there no fecking plates left. To come out with the shite you have completely shows you up for the utter apologist that you are!

 

Now, Brora Rangers. What’s our record against them again.

[Ethan Hunt]

1 hour ago, Boab said:

I’m afraid mentioning this crazy weird season, as you call it, will backfire on you, mate.

It was because of the pandemic that Brora hadn’t played a game for two months... and still turned up and beat us !

It is worse, mate, it really is !

Maybe craziness and weirdness of the season only applied to Hearts though? Or does it only apply to those making excuses for diabolical results?

[Morgan]

3 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Losing to Brora anytime, but especially in a crazy weird season like this, is not worse than getting gubbed 6-2 or 7-0 by your local rivals. It's really not.

It bloody well is!

 

You know this to be true, deep down you know it.

 

Even losing 6-2 to the Vermin is not as bad as that Brora result.

 

As for the 0-7?  It was just a New Year, hangover, blip.

[davemclaren]

1 hour ago, Morgan said:

It bloody well is!

 

You know this to be true, deep down you know it.

 

Even losing 6-2 to the Vermin is not as bad as that Brora result.

 

As for the 0-7?  It was just a New Year, hangover, blip.

Blip? 

[Niemi’s gloves]

I see the pack mentality on this thread is in full swing again, rounding on anyone who dares to oppose the prevailing view on here.

 

PS For those who were actually around at the time, the 7-0 was much worse than Brora

[davemclaren]

23 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

I see the pack mentality on this thread is in full swing again, rounding on anyone who dares to oppose the prevailing view on here.

 

PS For those who were actually around at the time, the 7-0 was much worse than Brora

It certainly was in Lasswade High. 🥺

[mitch41]

26 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

I see the pack mentality on this thread is in full swing again, rounding on anyone who dares to oppose the prevailing view on here.

 

PS For those who were actually around at the time, the 7-0 was much worse than Brora

Yes that day was bad and thank god I went back to London and escaped the slagging from every non Hearts fan that Jambos met. But the 4-1 game at Tynie was fantastic at the start of the new season with Aird, Busby, Stevenson & Ford giving us some pride back.I know JS never scored but he was my man of the match.

Brora is not a team that should be on Hearts radar or planet for that matter and to get knocked out of a Scottish Cup by them should be instant dismissal for the owner and management of Heart of Midlothian FC. Now if you disagree with that I really feel sorry for you. Hearts supporters deserve better than that and it should never of been allowed to happen.

[kingantti1874]

6 hours ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

I see the pack mentality on this thread is in full swing again, rounding on anyone who dares to oppose the prevailing view on here.

 

PS For those who were actually around at the time, the 7-0 was much worse than Brora

People challenge posters repeated attempt to sweep the most embarrassing result in the clubs history under the carpet as if it didn’t matter. 
 

I for one am shocked. 

[Penrices left boot]

32 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

People challenge posters repeated attempt to sweep the most embarrassing result in the clubs history under the carpet as if it didn’t matter. 
 

I for one am shocked. 

 

 

The result  mattered in the way that it was - 

Embarrassing. 

Knocked us out the cup. 

 

The former has happened a handful of times, the latter - lots of times. 

 

You can either get behind the team, have a bit positivity or continue to be " shocked". Neither will change what happened  or is  sweeping it under the carpet, it is simply moving forward. 

 

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Smith's right boot

[Jambof3tornado]

1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

The result  mattered in the way that it was - 

Embarrassing. 

Knocked us out the cup. 

 

The former has happened a handful of times, the latter - lots of times. 

 

You can either get behind the team, have a bit positivity or continue to be " shocked". Neither will change what happened  or is  sweeping it under the carpet, it is simply moving forward. 

 

 

We cannot and will not move forward under neilson and budge. Mediocrity at best.

 

Thats not good enough given the extra funds we give the club. We deserve better.

 

 

[Penrices left boot]

9 hours ago, Morgan said:

It bloody well is!

 

You know this to be true, deep down you know it.

 

Even losing 6-2 to the Vermin is not as bad as that Brora result.

 

As for the 0-7?  It was just a New Year, hangover, blip.

 

 

Not convinced it's worse than getting beat 7-0 at home of hibs Tbh. 

 

For example, if it was ever a choice this season of getting beat of hibs 7-0 in the sf but we beat Brora, I'd take the reality of what happened every day of the week. Grim thought.

 

 

The Broro result is on par of when we got beat of Peterhead a few years ago, we were in the top flight and they were league 1.

Broro is still worse than that imo. 

 

Anyway, hibs aren't beating us 7-0 and Broro will be forgotten about when we win the cup again! 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Smith's right boot

[Penrices left boot]

7 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said:

We cannot and will not move forward under neilson and budge. Mediocrity at best.

 

Thats not good enough given the extra funds we give the club. We deserve better.

 

 

 

We have move forward tho-  just this season and we moved forward last time with him. 

 

The evidence suggests we will move forward and improve under him. 

 

 

 

 

[Boab]

7 hours ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

I see the pack mentality on this thread is in full swing again, rounding on anyone who dares to oppose the prevailing view on here.

 

PS For those who were actually around at the time, the 7-0 was much worse than Brora

I can think for myself, thanks very much. 
Being bounced out the Big Cup by a Non League team, who hadn’t kicked a ball in two and a half months, is worse than 6-2 from Hibs.

I don’t need to join a pack to think this.

[Des Lynam]

23 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

We have move forward tho-  just this season and we moved forward last time with him. 

 

The evidence suggests we will move forward and improve under him. 

 

 

 

 

Stop going on about wanting Robbie out then and get behind the team. 

[kingantti1874]

26 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

The result  mattered in the way that it was - 

Embarrassing. 

Knocked us out the cup. 

 

The former has happened a handful of times, the latter - lots of times. 

 

You can either get behind the team, have a bit positivity or continue to be " shocked". Neither will change what happened  or is  sweeping it under the carpet, it is simply moving forward. 

 

 

I wouldn’t even respond if people stopped trying to pass it off as nothing !! like you’ve tried to do again. 
 

it doesn’t happen a lot, it’s never happened in our history! Worse than that never in the history of Scottish football has a top tier team , Been knocked out by a highland league team!! A highland league team who were unable to play or train. 
 

That is not an opinion, it’s a a stone cold irrefutable fact !!

 

I’ll get behind the team as I always do, I’ll call it as I see it and give credit where it’s due.  I won’t however attempt to airbrush or revise history or attempt to play down results or performances. 
 

I hope Neilson proves me wrong. But he won’t 

 

 

[Clerry Jambo]

37 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said:

We cannot and will not move forward under neilson and budge. Mediocrity at best.

 

Thats not good enough given the extra funds we give the club. We deserve better.

 

 

Unfortunately correct

[Penrices left boot]

22 minutes ago, Des Lynam said:

Stop going on about wanting Robbie out then and get behind the team. 

 

I know, what am I like! 

[Penrices left boot]

26 minutes ago, Boab said:

I can think for myself, thanks very much. 
Being bounced out the Big Cup by a Non League team, who hadn’t kicked a ball in two and a half months, is worse than 6-2 from Hibs.

I don’t need to join a pack to think this.

 

 

I'd agree, but the 7-0  at home.... 

 

Quality debate this, what's  worse 

😭😭😭

[jamtartan74]

31 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

I wouldn’t even respond if people stopped trying to pass it off as nothing !! like you’ve tried to do again. 
 

it doesn’t happen a lot, it’s never happened in our history! Worse than that never in the history of Scottish football has a top tier team , Been knocked out by a highland league team!! A highland league team who were unable to play or train. 
 

That is not an opinion, it’s a a stone cold irrefutable fact !!

 

I’ll get behind the team as I always do, I’ll call it as I see it and give credit where it’s due.  I won’t however attempt to airbrush or revise history or attempt to play down results or performances. 
 

I hope Neilson proves me wrong. But he won’t 

 

 

We were not a top tier team when we got beat by them, not arguing the disaster of the result but facts are facts. 

[Penrices left boot]

35 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

I wouldn’t even respond if people stopped trying to pass it off as nothing !! like you’ve tried to do again. 
 

it doesn’t happen a lot, it’s never happened in our history! Worse than that never in the history of Scottish football has a top tier team , Been knocked out by a highland league team!! A highland league team who were unable to play or train. 
 

That is not an opinion, it’s a a stone cold irrefutable fact !!

 

I’ll get behind the team as I always do, I’ll call it as I see it and give credit where it’s due.  I won’t however attempt to airbrush or revise history or attempt to play down results or performances. 
 

I hope Neilson proves me wrong. But he won’t 

 

 

 

We weren't a top teir team. 

 

We all were disgusted / shocked by the result. 

No need to try and out do each other in the shock stakes. 

 

 

 

[Hashimoto]

13 minutes ago, jamtartan74 said:

We were not a top tier team when we got beat by them, not arguing the disaster of the result but facts are facts. 

And being pedantic is.....Well, being pedantic!

Hearts ARE a top tier team in terms of budget, facilities, players...actually better than anyone else outside the OF...Them's are the facts!

I'll never try and sugarcoat the worse defeat in Hearts history no matter how many on here (yourself excluded) try to play it down. 

[jamtartan74]

11 minutes ago, Hashimoto said:

And being pedantic is.....Well, being pedantic!

Hearts ARE a top tier team in terms of budget, facilities, players...actually better than anyone else outside the OF...Them's are the facts!

I'll never try and sugarcoat the worse defeat in Hearts history no matter how many on here (yourself excluded) try to play it down. 

Pedantic or not thems the facts buddy. No sugarcoating here, it most certainly was the worst result in our history 👍🏻

[Boab]

43 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

I'd agree, but the 7-0  at home.... 

 

Quality debate this, what's  worse 

😭😭😭

The 0-7 game was a result that will always be used as one of the worst results for Hearts but to try and compare the early 70’s Hibs team with a Highland team who hadn’t played in months is, frankly, nonsense. Trolling even.

Ridiculous to compare tbh.

 

[Chuck Berry]

On 06/05/2021 at 01:03, CloustonHMFC said:

I must've missed the part where Neilson had us anywhere near the bottom of the table last time in charge. Can you post the league table from that season? 

 

Woooosh, you've missed my point completely, which was that a large section of the support were unhappy with Neilson regardless of league position. Sound familiar?

[kingantti1874]

1 hour ago, jamtartan74 said:

We were not a top tier team when we got beat by them, not arguing the disaster of the result but facts are facts. 

ok - still operating the 4th biggest wage bill in the country.
 

But that aside - has a team as high as the championship ever lost to a highland league team? I think you will find the answer is no.. 

 

facts are facts 

[kingantti1874]

1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

We weren't a top teir team. 

 

We all were disgusted / shocked by the result. 

No need to try and out do each other in the shock stakes. 

 

 

 

no one is trying to out do one another. But some people seem keen that we simply don’t consider it when assessing Robbie Neilsons performance as manager. 

[siegementality]

10 hours ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

I see the pack mentality on this thread is in full swing again, rounding on anyone who dares to oppose the prevailing view on here.

 

PS For those who were actually around at the time, the 7-0 was much worse than Brora

The pack mentality of arguing your case against a poster who constantly spams the board with contrary opinion to the majority of others in an effort seek attention?

 

Is pack mentality when the majority of people share the same opinion, and express that opinion to a very small number of people. Is that pack mentality?

 

Is it pack mentality using straight talking language to make your point? To counter complete nonsense like made up future hammering’s at home to Hib’s to somehow make a defeat to Brora Rangers seem insignificant.

 

Sometimes people just need told. Get over it.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by siegementality

[jamtartan74]

1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said:

ok - still operating the 4th biggest wage bill in the country.
 

But that aside - has a team as high as the championship ever lost to a highland league team? I think you will find the answer is no.. 

 

facts are facts 

Couldn’t answer that, not going to look either, but you are correct facts are facts which I was correcting your wrong claim of being a top tier team as a fact, happy to help 👍🏻 have a nice Friday 😁

[siegementality]

1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said:

no one is trying to out do one another. But some people seem keen that we simply don’t consider it when assessing Robbie Neilsons performance as manager. 

And others want to try to bury that defeat altogether.  Not happening. Neilson’s CV will always have shocking cup exits to Birkirkara, Alloa and Brora Rangers on it. No amount of deflection from others will change that.

[kingantti1874]

2 minutes ago, jamtartan74 said:

Couldn’t answer that, not going to look either, but you are correct facts are facts which I was correcting your wrong claim of being a top tier team as a fact, happy to help 👍🏻 have a nice Friday 😁

no argument here mate although I always consider hearts a top tier team regardless of league position.  
 

though if the performance of the last 5 years last for much longer that won’t be a credible position.
 

 

[Gordon Ramsay]

14 hours ago, Boab said:

I’m afraid mentioning this crazy weird season, as you call it, will backfire on you, mate.

It was because of the pandemic that Brora hadn’t played a game for two months... and still turned up and beat us !

It is worse, mate, it really is !

 

Ah the crazy weird season where we trained far longer than any other club in our league and had resources that far outweighed anyone we have played against bar the cup games against Hibs and Celtic. 

 

Embarrassing excuse. 

 

Losing to Brora is much, much worse than getting gubbed off Hibs. Sure the Hibs result may hurt more but there is no question Brora is worse.