kingantti1874 Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I would say the best aim for him now is, to look no further than Hearts, aim to be a top Hearts player. Cherish every game and look to put up a good fight to win a new contract here. As of right now there’s a significant chance Hearts will be the biggest club of his career. At best, if he comes back and performs for us and has no further recurrence, Rangers or Celtic might try and buy him for a million or two in a few years. That’s the only way I see us getting a fee for him now. But even for that to happen, he would need to stage a seriously good sustained comeback for Hearts over 2-3 seasons, in a winning team, winning more Scotland caps. What a mountain to climb but can only wish Soapy all the best as he’s a great lad and doesn’t deserve what’s happened. 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, BigAlim said: I'd say we're having a very adult discussion by kickback standards tbh Ir's another excuse for the moaners to moan. When they're done with Berra they'll move on to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borders Jambo Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I would say the best aim for him now is, to look no further than Hearts, aim to be a top Hearts player. Cherish every game and look to put up a good fight to win a new contract here. As of right now there’s a significant chance Hearts will be the biggest club of his career. At best, if he comes back and performs for us and has no further recurrence, Rangers or Celtic might try and buy him for a million or two in a few years. That’s the only way I see us getting a fee for him now. But even for that to happen, he would need to stage a seriously good sustained comeback for Hearts over 2-3 seasons, in a winning team, winning more Scotland caps. What a mountain to climb but can only wish Soapy all the best as he’s a great lad and doesn’t deserve what’s happened. Excellent post and also great news today about SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I would say the best aim for him now is, to look no further than Hearts, aim to be a top Hearts player. Cherish every game and look to put up a good fight to win a new contract here. As of right now there’s a significant chance Hearts will be the biggest club of his career. At best, if he comes back and performs for us and has no further recurrence, Rangers or Celtic might try and buy him for a million or two in a few years. That’s the only way I see us getting a fee for him now. But even for that to happen, he would need to stage a seriously good sustained comeback for Hearts over 2-3 seasons, in a winning team, winning more Scotland caps. What a mountain to climb but can only wish Soapy all the best as he’s a great lad and doesn’t deserve what’s happened. I agree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: What’s the bets it was bombscare Brandon It was the Alloa boy that got sent off was it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, JimmyCant said: Christ we’re a lot worse off at centre back than I thought if a guy who has played there once or twice as a stand in is the best we’ve got. Once of twice? Closer to a double figures I’d think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rudolf said: It was the Alloa boy that got sent off was it not? Not sure if the poster meant it was in the match or in training. Either way, welcome back to Scotland Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Not sure if the poster meant it was in the match or in training. Either way, welcome back to Scotland Gary Yeah, some welcome indeed🤕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, JamboAl said: Ir's another excuse for the moaners to moan. When they're done with Berra they'll move on to someone else. Let’s hear your assessment of Berra then since no one is really interested in your assessment of unidentified posters on JKB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: Let’s hear your assessment of Berra then since no one is really interested in your assessment of unidentified posters on JKB The posters are easily identified. If you ask me about Berra on a Berra thread I'll gladly respond but this one is about transfers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: Let’s hear your assessment of Berra then since no one is really interested in your assessment of unidentified posters on JKB Ach, Berra's Berra. Every other club in our league would take him in a heartbeat if he was available. He's making more mistakes than we'd like but he has some qualities for this league and we're easily winning it so far with him in the team. He can be our Roddy MacDonald for this season and just keep it simple on the ground and win every header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, JamboAl said: The posters are easily identified. If you ask me about Berra on a Berra thread I'll gladly respond but this one is about transfers. To me transfers mean replacing players with better players, therefore Berra is a valid discussion point. Do we need to replace him or don’t we Al ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: Ach, Berra's Berra. Every other club in our league would take him in a heartbeat if he was available. He's making more mistakes than we'd like but he has some qualities for this league and we're easily winning it so far with him in the team. He can be our Roddy MacDonald for this season and just keep it simple on the ground and win every header. As long as this is his last season I’ve no problem with him being selected in this league, although he’s often in the mix somewhere when we concede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, JimmyCant said: Let’s hear your assessment of Berra then since no one is really interested in your assessment of unidentified posters on JKB A good idea at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, JimmyCant said: As long as this is his last season I’ve no problem with him being selected in this league, although he’s often in the mix somewhere when we concede In recent games smith Irving walker ginelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, BelgeJambo said: Souttar and Haring fully match fit would be a decent CH pairing Perhaps but it's one hell of a reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Sir Gio said: GMS came off the right last week but could be a fantastic left hand side Kingsley overlapping GMS 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍. 👏🏻 sounds like a very good plan svp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Hearing that Brandon has done his cruciate again. Wonder if we’ll recall Logan as back up to Smith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: What’s the bets it was bombscare Brandon Feeling good about that sad comment now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilr61 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said: Hearing that Brandon has done his cruciate again. Wonder if we’ll recall Logan as back up to Smith? Is he not back already after leagues 1 and 2 got stopped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, neilr61 said: Is he not back already after leagues 1 and 2 got stopped? Imagine they are still happening at the moment as the leagues are meant to continue next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmith Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 hours ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said: The Kingsley news is great to hear as we have secured a free kick specialist as well as a reliable wing back for this and next season. Robbie has delivered on this one as I am sure he has with GMS too. Starting to feel we are going to see a much better thought out signing policy become the norm. Pity about his penalty taking tho😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, JimmyCant said: To me transfers mean replacing players with better players, therefore Berra is a valid discussion point. Do we need to replace him or don’t we Al ? To me transfers (in this context) mean who we're after. We need to replace other players but I'm sure that's been covered elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Nice to see Kingsley signed up, and we will be seeing more of josh runs down the wing for me 👍, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 As I said about Irving make him the right offer he will stay, know your worth son 😉. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Striker hmm 🤔. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Striker hmm 🤔. Anything new or just that Walsall striker? I also take it you are meaning josh is signed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboj1 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Irving and ginelly almost completely signed up massive business for us, as of Tuesday we were in talks with 2 strikers the Walsall one and another as we are at a little deadlock of discussions with Walsall. Apologies doesn’t seem to be one in this week like I mentioned but i think it’s clear we were trying to make it happen and still are so🤞🏻. Don’t get names often but led to believe we have an extreme interest in kyle Turner from Dunfermline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, CJGJ said: Feeling good about that sad comment now ? I feel sorry for him, I wouldn’t want any player to get injured. But I don’t rate him. He makes reckless challenges with his body out of position, time after time. He gets done by players and has to chase back, sure he has pace but I prefer defenders that can think one step ahead and spot an interception or well timed tackle. Alert to danger not reactive to it like Brandon. There is a particular type of player that is at all times, an increased risk of injuring others or himself. The rash tackler. I can tell you that I’ve seen plenty of that type, in my time watching Scottish Football. Usually they’re wearing a yellow, green, blue or white shirt at Tynecastle. Not maroon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 It’s good to hear we are keeping options open by actively chasing 2 strikers. There’s no need to pay excessive money if a club is playing hardball - go for the other one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Jamboj1 said: Irving and ginelly almost completely signed up massive business for us, as of Tuesday we were in talks with 2 strikers the Walsall one and another as we are at a little deadlock of discussions with Walsall. Apologies doesn’t seem to be one in this week like I mentioned but i think it’s clear we were trying to make it happen and still are so🤞🏻. Don’t get names often but led to believe we have an extreme interest in kyle Turner from Dunfermline Cheers for the info mate 👍 Turner certainly looked good in the game at East end park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-confident-josh-ginnelly-will-sign-permanently-andy-irving-offered-new-contract-3108381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, JamboAl said: To me transfers (in this context) mean who we're after. We need to replace other players but I'm sure that's been covered elsewhere You would agree, would you not, that a big part of the transfer process is identifying where you are weak and need to improve, where you are adequately covered and where you are strong and that’s before you start letting people leave or bringing people in, therefore discussing if Berra is someone we need to replace is perfectly on topic in a transfer thread ? No ? So what’s your opinion on Berra. Here’s your chance to shine with your wisdom. Edited January 22, 2021 by JimmyCant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Baxfee said: It’s good to hear we are keeping options open by actively chasing 2 strikers. There’s no need to pay excessive money if a club is playing hardball - go for the other one. Agree to a certain extent but we are in a position of strength vs Walsall here. If Adebayo is the primary target and is preferred over the second option then we should sign him. The worst that could happen is we wait until the summer to get him. We can get away without a striker for the rest of this season IMO so let’s pick the best of the 2 we are after and wait if we need to (pretty sure Walsall will cash in now if we pre contract him - would be silly not to given their league position and their financial position) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ped Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Almost Hearts related but I see Sean Clare has been moved on already with a loan move to Burton Albion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BarneyBattles said: 😄 Maybe taking this a bit too seriously? Not really. Just shootin the breeze with a fellah who’s got plenty to say but nothing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robdawg Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Apparently paying £180k for this boy from Walsall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Robdawg said: Apparently paying £180k for this boy from Walsall Goodoh. I'd like to thank Neil Doncaster personally for this transfer fee offer. Having led the Scottish footballing community in expelling us, he has ensured our fans rallied round, pumping more money in to the club, we have lost no or very little by being in the Championship as there are no crowds anyway (and I'd think we'd fill Tynie anyway), and we also had access to a £500k free govt grant, which the Prem teams didn't. He really has helped our club in our medium term plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, TheBigO said: Goodoh. I'd like to thank Neil Doncaster personally for this transfer fee offer. Having led the Scottish footballing community in expelling us, he has ensured our fans rallied round, pumping more money in to the club, we have lost no or very little by being in the Championship as there are no crowds anyway (and I'd think we'd fill Tynie anyway), and we also had access to a £500k free govt grant, which the Prem teams didn't. He really has helped our club in our medium term plans. Touché Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, TheBigO said: Goodoh. I'd like to thank Neil Doncaster personally for this transfer fee offer. Having led the Scottish footballing community in expelling us, he has ensured our fans rallied round, pumping more money in to the club, we have lost no or very little by being in the Championship as there are no crowds anyway (and I'd think we'd fill Tynie anyway), and we also had access to a £500k free govt grant, which the Prem teams didn't. He really has helped our club in our medium term plans. We will more than have matched hibs for income this season if they don't get a better Scottish cup run than us. They helped us get more money than they lost by voting us down. Thanks Hibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboscanbevicius Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Clerry Jambo said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-confident-josh-ginnelly-will-sign-permanently-andy-irving-offered-new-contract-3108381 We seem to be making all the right moves. With Smith and Kingsley committed, and GMS signed, it will be great if we can tie these two down for the next 3-4 years. Both young and potential to develop further. Looks like we will bring a striker in, and squad looks in good shape. I would still like us to address CH though. We need some reliable quality in there. Halkett is decent but Berra is on his last legs, Popescu is ok squad cover, and Souttar unfortunately can’t seem to get a run of fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Probably mentioned already but I notice the Edinburgh Live confirm that we have signed Kingsley until the summer of 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, Auldbenches said: We will more than have matched hibs for income this season if they don't get a better Scottish cup run than us. They helped us get more money than they lost by voting us down. Thanks Hibs Yeehaa! Funny innit. Before anyone comes in with pedentry, we all know the prize money will be less and we can't attain European qualification (unless we win the cup, which we almost definitely will - especially with our new "free" signings). I don't usually concern myself with finance in football (don't hugely understand why people do, unless it's a proper hobby with a proper knowledge which it seems with maybe FF - I mean armchair accountancy...??!), but it will be interesting to see our P&L against Prem teams for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, JimmyCant said: You would agree, would you not, that a big part of the transfer process is identifying where you are weak and need to improve, where you are adequately covered and where you are strong and that’s before you start letting people leave or bringing people in, therefore discussing if Berra is someone we need to replace is perfectly on topic in a transfer thread ? No ? So what’s your opinion on Berra. Here’s your chance to shine with your wisdom. Are you thick? I shall not answer about Berra except on a Berra thread no matter how you try to twist it. Even then I shall reply if I feel my view takes the debate forwatd. Do you have any new transfer info without slagging current players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, Robdawg said: Apparently paying £180k for this boy from Walsall 😱 He must be very highly thought of! I would expect a player that can be acquired on a pre contract to be signed for free. Hope it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jamboscanbevicius said: We seem to be making all the right moves. With Smith and Kingsley committed, and GMS signed, it will be great if we can tie these two down for the next 3-4 years. Both young and potential to develop further. Looks like we will bring a striker in, and squad looks in good shape. I would still like us to address CH though. We need some reliable quality in there. Halkett is decent but Berra is on his last legs, Popescu is ok squad cover, and Souttar unfortunately can’t seem to get a run of fitness. Yeah be interesting to see what we do at CH. Bit funny it's kind of the one position not been mentioned by Robbie. My guess is somewhat waiting to see how Soapy gets on, plus a bit of respect for Christophe. We have enough there to see out this season. Soapy seems good, the we have a pairing in him and Halkett*, and perhaps we're looking at competitiion. If we can't rely of Souttar, then we need to sign a very good stick on first choice. We also have squad options such as Haring, and he's very young, but how close is Flatman (my guess is he'll go on loan next season). Any mention of shopping for a CH, I suppose is conf to Berra he's done and to Soapy we're not sure about his rehab and ability to get back to where he was. Doesn't mean we're not working on it, but less public chat. * I think I seem to be in minority, but I like this partnership. Souttar-Halkett totally ticks the boxes for me. Let's remember this time they'll have a brilliant goalie and two top class FBs beside them, and maybe even a midfield ahead of them who do their job too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, Robdawg said: Apparently paying £180k for this boy from Walsall Where is this apparent news coming from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, jonnothejambo said: So much so that we can all welcome him back to Tynecastle next in August to unveil our Championship flag. I'm sure he will get a nice round of applause and a song or two. Indeed 😉 Probably a discussion for a later date but I hope that ****** is nowhere near Tynecastle even in those circumstances. The thought of his smug puss posing for pictures and handing the trophy over is already making my blood boil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheBigO said: Yeehaa! Funny innit. Before anyone comes in with pedentry, we all know the prize money will be less and we can't attain European qualification (unless we win the cup, which we almost definitely will - especially with our new "free" signings). I don't usually concern myself with finance in football (don't hugely understand why people do, unless it's a proper hobby with a proper knowledge which it seems with maybe FF - I mean armchair accountancy...??!), but it will be interesting to see our P&L against Prem teams for this season. It's just the irony of that half mill grant that they aren't getting, and it's because they voted us down. Message boards are what they are but posters like FF don't half give them a bit of depth. Hope we sign a striker with this money who then scores against them. It's great being poppy money thieving gets. Anything that gets up their noses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Robdawg said: Apparently paying £180k for this boy from Walsall Not a chance. Even on the Walsall forums were saying they'd be delighted with £50k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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