Neon Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Wrong post. Edited October 10, 2020 by Neon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Swayed by the arguments for boycotting. I can send another fiver to FoH to compensate the club. I doubt I will miss a great spectacle and will listen on Hearts TV audio. I did try to register yesterday but could not sign in today. Got as far and change password option so my email address and user name seemed to be recognised. "email with further details on password change" flashed up but no email received Anyone else had problems? Check junk / spam folders for that email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Hearts TV International and use a VPN. All money goes straight to Hearts 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flem Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said: Hearts TV International and use a VPN. All money goes straight to Hearts 👍🏻 Correct answer 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said: Hearts TV International and use a VPN. All money goes straight to Hearts 👍🏻 What’s best vpn to use? Edited October 10, 2020 by Jambo 4 Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 11 hours ago, JimmyCant said: More Hearts fans will buy the stream than would have gone to the game, even if there was not a boycott. (IMO) Any boycott is a personal choice. It’s not been endorsed by anyone at the club, in fact Neilson and Budge and Naismith have all commented against it. it’s not endorsed by any fans body and it’s not endorsed by the FOH. It’s not organised or publicised in any way shape or form. It’s simply a moral dilemma for individual fans. Some will want to go and watch the team and will therefore financially support the host club at the same time as supporting the team. That’s been the way of it for many years now. Others will do neither of those things after arriving at their own decision Personally speaking I would have gone to the Cowdenbeath game had crowds been allowed and I’ll go to all other away grounds apart from Dens, as they crossed the line before and way beyond the others. I won’t be paying £10 for a stream because it’s too expensive to my mind to watch a single game on TV, a pretty low key game at that. I will probably watch it free. Everyone has the right to decide here. There is no right and no wrong and certainly no point in alienating each other for our own personal choices I suppose it depends where you draw the line. And after the Zlamal farce I don’t care too much for what Robbie and Budge have to say about boycotts or where we put our cash. Plus the supporters groups should be pushing the Only Hearts agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Should have offered the service, see how many sign up and then charge them an amount that covers costs and no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, maroon said: Is it worth paying £10 for one camera angle on top of the main stand the whole game? If you want to watch it - yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Boycotting of cup games is different as the money is shared no matter where the game is played. If it was at Tynecastle it would be the same, Cowdenbeath would get half the profit. League games are different as gate receipts go directly to the home club only. Are the folk that are boycotting Cup games also boycotting future Cup games at Tynecastle as the away team gets half the profits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 08/10/2020 at 17:11, Jambo-Fox said: There will only ever be one club I want to financially support, Hearts! In ‘Hearts Football World’ Cowdenbeath are totally irrelevant and completely unimportant and always will be! I’m very happy to give Hearts £5 to watch them ‘live’! Whilst it’s only a small contribution it will support Hearts so we can get through the pandemic and emerge stronger vs other more relevant clubs in the premier division! Your choice, you are happy to give Cowdenbeath £5, but no £5 from me to Cowdenbeath, It's all £10 to Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deko 94 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 17 hours ago, Jambo-Fox said: Go on then, what’s stopping you subscribing to JKB? Nothing mate. It's not exactly what I was getting at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Boycotting of cup games is different as the money is shared no matter where the game is played. If it was at Tynecastle it would be the same, Cowdenbeath would get half the profit. League games are different as gate receipts go directly to the home club only. Are the folk that are boycotting Cup games also boycotting future Cup games at Tynecastle as the away team gets half the profits? Food for thought. But, there is a significant difference though, in going to the match there is the benefits of the physical support, the noise, the atmosphere, which helps the players. Watching it on TV provides no benefit in the players performance on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, H2 said: Food for thought. But, there is a significant difference though, in going to the match there is the benefits of the physical support, the noise, the atmosphere, which helps the players. Watching it on TV provides no benefit in the players performance on the field. It seems to be, from the posts that the issue is Cowdenbeath are getting money If it was at Tynecastle and streamed in the same way, would folk buy it? If so, Cowdenbeath would get half. Or are folk that are advocating boycotting this, also boycotting all cup games in the future home or away so that the clubs that shat on us get no money? A league game I understand the logic, but a cup game where we also get half the money is bordering a bit on self harm. I've decided against it this time, but if it was at Tynecastle with fans I would likely be there so I'm even in conflict with my own question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, H2 said: Your choice, you are happy to give Cowdenbeath £5, but no £5 from me to Cowdenbeath, It's all £10 to Hearts. So are you never going to any cup game again, home or away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19/05/2012 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: So are you never going to any cup game again, home or away? I think in a few years maybe but at a time when not giving them money could see them go under would be rather pleasing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: So are you never going to any cup game again, home or away? Many will still want their Scottish cup final tickets and will then attempt to justify their actions Just reality but at present they can pretend they have taken a moral stance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: It seems to be, from the posts that the issue is Cowdenbeath are getting money If it was at Tynecastle and streamed in the same way, would folk buy it? If so, Cowdenbeath would get half. Or are folk that are advocating boycotting this, also boycotting all cup games in the future home or away so that the clubs that shat on us get no money? A league game I understand the logic, but a cup game where we also get half the money is bordering a bit on self harm. I've decided against it this time, but if it was at Tynecastle with fans I would likely be there so I'm even in conflict with my own question. It would be a difficult decision for me, but at the moment if we drew the likes of Dundee or Alloa i wouldn't go and donate the price of a Ticket to FOH. There are certain clubs i couldn't stomach giving a penny to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Boycotting of cup games is different as the money is shared no matter where the game is played. If it was at Tynecastle it would be the same, Cowdenbeath would get half the profit. League games are different as gate receipts go directly to the home club only. Are the folk that are boycotting Cup games also boycotting future Cup games at Tynecastle as the away team gets half the profits? Personally speaking I will boycott away grounds for cup games, bar semis and finals. It’s a fair point that this means the club will get less money, I would rather the home club gave us half the profits of only their home fans. I will go to home cup games and you’re right it will give the away club money. It is a bit hypocritical in the cold light of day but I feel I want to do something to hurt these clubs, and this is the only means I have of doing it. I’ve given £20 to all the good hits apart from ICT who I can’t see a way to donate yet, apart from Rangers obviously. It doesn’t really make sense all together but I suppose that’s football in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Maybe being stupid but have signed up on my tablet for ppv today, but have not been asked for the tenner. Does it just get added to your phone bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Many will still want their Scottish cup final tickets and will then attempt to justify their actions Just reality but at present they can pretend they have taken a moral stance I'll not try and justify my actions, i'll do what i want when i want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Many will still want their Scottish cup final tickets and will then attempt to justify their actions Just reality but at present they can pretend they have taken a moral stance You think that that game will have fans attending? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Maybe being stupid but have signed up on my tablet for ppv today, but have not been asked for the tenner. Does it just get added to your phone bill? No it doesn't. Go into your account on the drop down menu. It will ask for card details then follow the bouncing ball.i found it eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Personally speaking I will boycott away grounds for cup games, bar semis and finals. It’s a fair point that this means the club will get less money, I would rather the home club gave us half the profits of only their home fans. I will go to home cup games and you’re right it will give the away club money. It is a bit hypocritical in the cold light of day but I feel I want to do something to hurt these clubs, and this is the only means I have of doing it. I’ve given £20 to all the good hits apart from ICT who I can’t see a way to donate yet, apart from Rangers obviously. It doesn’t really make sense all together but I suppose that’s football in Scotland. I'm here as well Tbh. More difficult atm as we're just back after a long break and most are still at the excited stage, once I get a fix of honme games I'll be less desperate to see us and give money to other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Maybe being stupid but have signed up on my tablet for ppv today, but have not been asked for the tenner. Does it just get added to your phone bill? You need to register first at; https://ppv.heartsfc.co.uk/register and create an account and then go to the events tab to select the event and pay. Then to watch it’s on; https://ppv.heartsfc.co.uk/ once you’ve paid it should take you directly there ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: You think that that game will have fans attending? Ignore him ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: It would be a difficult decision for me, but at the moment if we drew the likes of Dundee or Alloa i wouldn't go and donate the price of a Ticket to FOH. There are certain clubs i couldn't stomach giving a penny to. Fair doos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemi’s gloves Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just seen a piece from a week ago from the Arbroath chairman (apologies if this has been mentioned). Complaining about our game there in two weeks time being on BBC - they’d hoped to get 3000-4000 Hearts fans coughing up at £15 a time to their streaming service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, 19/05/2012 said: I think in a few years maybe but at a time when not giving them money could see them go under would be rather pleasing Might see go under as well tho, remember a cup Game we get half too. It's a cunundrum tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Bit of an oldie Can anyone recommend which VPN to go for please. #firestick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Niemi’s gloves said: Just seen a piece from a week ago from the Arbroath chairman (apologies if this has been mentioned). Complaining about our game there in two weeks time being on BBC - they’d hoped to get 3000-4000 Hearts fans coughing up at £15 a time to their streaming service. Yeah it was on here. Nae luck for him. But the key difference is that is a league game, Arbroath get all the wonga from that. Boycotting that makes 100% sense. This is a cup game, home or away the money is shared, if folk are boycotting on that principle it means attending or watching any ppv cup game is off the table, even at Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said: Just seen a piece from a week ago from the Arbroath chairman (apologies if this has been mentioned). Complaining about our game there in two weeks time being on BBC - they’d hoped to get 3000-4000 Hearts fans coughing up at £15 a time to their streaming service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, GBJambo said: Or give 100% to Hearts? You need the opponents permission I’m afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Smith's right boot said: Yeah it was on here. Nae luck for him. But the key difference is that is a league game, Arbroath get all the wonga from that. Boycotting that makes 100% sense. This is a cup game, home or away the money is shared, if folk are boycotting on that principle it means attending or watching any ppv cup game is off the table, even at Tynecastle. I’m happy to miss cup games on that basis. Well not happy but I refuse to pay any money to tinpot twats like Cowdenbeath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 58 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: What’s best vpn to use? Using a VPN to watch the game is against the law, people like you should be ashamed, selfish twit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Ignore him ffs Why ?....I would have thought you'd like us to be at the final in 2021 Hypocrisy from some and the posts show some just hate being called out knowing they will not be keeping their promises of contributions and match attendance To those who do well done and you can hold your head up with pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, graygo said: Using a VPN to watch the game is against the law, people like you should be ashamed, selfish twit. Jesus, I was away to ask what is the best murder weapon to use, but after that response I'll ask elsewhere 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything2 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Personally speaking I will boycott away grounds for cup games, bar semis and finals. It’s a fair point that this means the club will get less money, I would rather the home club gave us half the profits of only their home fans. I will go to home cup games and you’re right it will give the away club money. It is a bit hypocritical in the cold light of day but I feel I want to do something to hurt these clubs, and this is the only means I have of doing it. I’ve given £20 to all the good hits apart from ICT who I can’t see a way to donate yet, apart from Rangers obviously. It doesn’t really make sense all together but I suppose that’s football in Scotland. I wouldn't see it as hypocritical, you understandably want to make a stand of some kind but the rules make it difficult. And a 1/4 share of the odd semi final won't make up for the lost revenue of you not buying league tickets for however long you boycott. I'm not sure that I will ever return to away games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, CJGJ said: To those who do well done and you can hold your head up with pride. Thanks, I will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroon Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Anyone able to recommend any free VPN’s 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, CJGJ said: Why ?....I would have thought you'd like us to be at the final in 2021 Hypocrisy from some and the posts show some just hate being called out knowing they will not be keeping their promises of contributions and match attendance To those who do well done and you can hold your head up with pride. For me I won't go to away league games (or stream them) not hard for me anyway, but I had planned to do a few this season. I'm not going to say I'm boycotting Cup streams or games, because as soon as we get a top league side I'll be there or watching it. Most of the joy from Hearts is in the cups, take that away and supporting us would be dull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Jesus, I was away to ask what is the best murder weapon to use, but after that response I'll ask elsewhere 😊 No you're ok, it was aimed at sanctimonious a'holes who keep banging on about how the law must be obeyed not self confessed law breakers like yourself. ps. Lead piping. 👍 Edited October 10, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Alex Kintner said: Hearts TV International and use a VPN. All money goes straight to Hearts 👍🏻 If based in the UK is that legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: You need to register first at; https://ppv.heartsfc.co.uk/register and create an account and then go to the events tab to select the event and pay. Then to watch it’s on; https://ppv.heartsfc.co.uk/ once you’ve paid it should take you directly there ... Cheers JF. got it ok now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, norrie1952 said: No it doesn't. Go into your account on the drop down menu. It will ask for card details then follow the bouncing ball.i found it eventually Thanks Norrie. Got it ok now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisnameis Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Anyone on international hearts tv having issues accessing the stream. I am in China and it’s not playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDJ87 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Jesus, I was away to ask what is the best murder weapon to use, but after that response I'll ask elsewhere 😊 A dagger made of ice ... Simple 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, hisnameis said: Anyone on international hearts tv having issues accessing the stream. I am in China and it’s not playing They’re coming to your house as we speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehibsareintheirbeds Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Deciding against the ppv and will find online hopefully. Doesn't sound like there's going to be much of an uptake- hope its enough to cover costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Personally speaking I will boycott away grounds for cup games, bar semis and finals. It’s a fair point that this means the club will get less money, I would rather the home club gave us half the profits of only their home fans. I will go to home cup games and you’re right it will give the away club money. It is a bit hypocritical in the cold light of day but I feel I want to do something to hurt these clubs, and this is the only means I have of doing it. I’ve given £20 to all the good hits apart from ICT who I can’t see a way to donate yet, apart from Rangers obviously. It doesn’t really make sense all together but I suppose that’s football in Scotland. Yep, the ban on people attending games in the flesh has torpedoed the much talked about boycott. I was planning to only attend the ICT away league game rather than the 9 or 10 I would usually have gone along to. Given the current climate it really is the case now that we need to maximise the income to Hearts and if that means going to cup ties, or buying ppv for cup ties then so be it given we will make money from it. This is regardless of who the opposition is and whether they make money from the game as well. Anything other than that is really cutting off your nose to spite your face and is self-defeating in reality. The club isn’t in a position to turn off any tap that makes them money. Fans need to wake up and smell the coffee. Lots of fans on here planing to watch today’s game using means that are either not legal or not allowed by the football authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: So are you never going to any cup game again, home or away? You interpret what you want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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