SectionFJambo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Even Craig Wighton should get a goal against this mob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Why did you bite? There are some people that haven't got a clue what a VPN is or how it works. I just assumed he / she was one of them. Not sure what I'm missing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, iainmac said: There are some people that haven't got a clue what a VPN is or how it works. I just assumed he / she was one of them. Not sure what I'm missing here? Jambo-Fox is trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Jambo-Fox is trolling. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: There's absolutely no doubt a message will be sent tomorrow. Do you think clubs don't talk to each other? Some people will buy the stream but the numbers will be way down on what they would expect from Hearts fans pre the gleeful shafting of a few months ago. More Hearts fans will buy the stream than would have gone to the game, even if there was not a boycott. (IMO) Any boycott is a personal choice. It’s not been endorsed by anyone at the club, in fact Neilson and Budge and Naismith have all commented against it. it’s not endorsed by any fans body and it’s not endorsed by the FOH. It’s not organised or publicised in any way shape or form. It’s simply a moral dilemma for individual fans. Some will want to go and watch the team and will therefore financially support the host club at the same time as supporting the team. That’s been the way of it for many years now. Others will do neither of those things after arriving at their own decision Personally speaking I would have gone to the Cowdenbeath game had crowds been allowed and I’ll go to all other away grounds apart from Dens, as they crossed the line before and way beyond the others. I won’t be paying £10 for a stream because it’s too expensive to my mind to watch a single game on TV, a pretty low key game at that. I will probably watch it free. Everyone has the right to decide here. There is no right and no wrong and certainly no point in alienating each other for our own personal choices Edited October 10, 2020 by JimmyCant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, JimmyCant said: More Hearts fans will buy the stream than would have gone to the game, even if there was not a boycott. (IMO) Any boycott is a personal choice. It’s not been endorsed by anyone at the club, in fact Neilson and Budge and Naismith have all commented against it. it’s not endorsed by any fans body and it’s not endorsed by the FOH. It’s not organised or publicised in any way shape or form. It’s simply a moral dilemma for individual fans. Some will want to go and watch the team and will therefore financially support the host club at the same time as supporting the team. That’s been the way of it for many years now. Others will do neither of those things after arriving at their own decision Personally speaking I would have gone to the Cowdenbeath game had crowds been allowed and I’ll go to all other away grounds apart from Dens, as they crossed the line before and way beyond the others. I won’t be paying £10 for a stream because it’s too expensive to my mind to watch a single game on TV, a pretty low key game at that. I will probably watch it free. Everyone has the right to decide here. There is no right and no wrong and certainly no point in alienating each other for our own personal choices Apparently 368 have done so. In normal times, we would be taking 2-3,000 fans through to Central Park (or to Methil in this instance). They would also be paying more than a tenner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Apparently 368 have done so. In normal times, we would be taking 2-3,000 fans through to Central Park (or to Methil in this instance). They would also be paying more than a tenner. I do not get all this vendetta talk against SPFL clubs because the voted for Hearts' demotion. If I was a supporter of another club I'd be voting based on the PPG scenario, too. To be honest the Premiership is diarrhoea this season but looking forward to "Friday night Championship night". It's Hearts. Life is too short. I would have paid the £10 to watch if I didn't already have an international subscription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 hours ago, tynietigers said: I only have Rangers, Celtic 🙄 and for some reason Dundee Utd but they don’t show the pay per view games as it’s through a different link. I have every premier team and now we're back, Hearts TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 hours ago, i8hibsh said: What app? IPTV. I think. I just did what the nice programmer asked me to type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 15 hours ago, Meadows said: Fag packet accountancy , if 1000 hearts fans OVER the break even figure ( whatever that is ) pay £10 . That’s £5000 to Cowdenbeath . their wage bill is probably £2.5k per week so helps them out for a fortnight . stuff them ... Only Hearts ♥️ Absolutely spot on. Any Hearts fan who knowingly chooses to subsidise Cowdenbeath needs to give themselves a shake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Tasavallan said: I do not get all this vendetta talk against SPFL clubs because the voted for Hearts' demotion. If I was a supporter of another club I'd be voting based on the PPG scenario, too. To be honest the Premiership is diarrhoea this season but looking forward to "Friday night Championship night". It's Hearts. Life is too short. I would have paid the £10 to watch if I didn't already have an international subscription. I have Hearts International and IPTV but will happily pay £10 for the East Fife match. However, I am prepared to do whatever it takes to avoid giving a penny to the likes of Cowdenbeath, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Tasavallan said: I do not get all this vendetta talk against SPFL clubs because the voted for Hearts' demotion. If I was a supporter of another club I'd be voting based on the PPG scenario, too. To be honest the Premiership is diarrhoea this season but looking forward to "Friday night Championship night". It's Hearts. Life is too short. I would have paid the £10 to watch if I didn't already have an international subscription. i agree in part but Cowdenbeath and their vile chairman were very pro active accusing Ann Budge and hearts of all sorts.. it is personal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Nobreath said: I'll watch a dodgy pirate stream and put a tenner into FOH to cover my conscience. Mouthpiece arsehole Findlay and his shitty wee club will see nothing from me. This will be my plan too. Only Hearts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Apparently 368 have done so. In normal times, we would be taking 2-3,000 fans through to Central Park (or to Methil in this instance). They would also be paying more than a tenner. where are you reading the number geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: where are you reading the number geoff The "apparently" was from Jambo-Fox's total. No idea where he/she got it from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 hours ago, JimmyCant said: More Hearts fans will buy the stream than would have gone to the game, even if there was not a boycott. (IMO) Any boycott is a personal choice. It’s not been endorsed by anyone at the club, in fact Neilson and Budge and Naismith have all commented against it. it’s not endorsed by any fans body and it’s not endorsed by the FOH. It’s not organised or publicised in any way shape or form. It’s simply a moral dilemma for individual fans. Some will want to go and watch the team and will therefore financially support the host club at the same time as supporting the team. That’s been the way of it for many years now. Others will do neither of those things after arriving at their own decision Personally speaking I would have gone to the Cowdenbeath game had crowds been allowed and I’ll go to all other away grounds apart from Dens, as they crossed the line before and way beyond the others. I won’t be paying £10 for a stream because it’s too expensive to my mind to watch a single game on TV, a pretty low key game at that. I will probably watch it free. Everyone has the right to decide here. There is no right and no wrong and certainly no point in alienating each other for our own personal choices I suppose it depends where you draw the line. And after the Zlamal farce I don’t care too much for what Robbie and Budge have to say about boycotts or where we put our cash. Plus the supporters groups should be pushing the Only Hearts agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 7 hours ago, iainmac said: It's to get round the normal UK ban on showing live matches at 3pm etc. In this case, I doubt the club would mind as it's maximising our revenue whilst giving Finlay & Co hee-haw. Using a VPN in itself isn't fraudulent - thousands working from home will be using one to connect to their corporate network, as it provides an encrypted tunnel between client & server. The club might not mind, but they might be disappointed that after going to the effort and expense of providing a service for their support, it's not taken up, potentially leaving them out of pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: The club might not mind, but they might be disappointed that after going to the effort and expense of providing a service for their support, it's not taken up, potentially leaving them out of pocket Well maybe they’ll finally cotton on as to how the majority of Hearts fans are feeling. I hope this flops massively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 @David McCaig If one wanted to go down the route of watching through a VPN. Would you register for Hearts TV with your correct details? You don't have to make up an overseas address or anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, pablo said: @David McCaig If one wanted to go down the route of watching through a VPN. Would you register for Hearts TV with your correct details? You don't have to make up an overseas address or anything? Yes. All Hearts TV checks for is your server location. If this shows as outside the UK and Ireland it will automatically direct you to Hearts International. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I can understand time being a healer for some but now is not the time. I'll not be helping any club on it's knees. It's about time these clubs died or ****ed off to a non professional setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, David McCaig said: Yes. All Hearts TV checks for is your server location. If this shows as outside the UK and Ireland it will automatically direct you to Hearts International. Think I might just join you with this. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: The club might not mind, but they might be disappointed that after going to the effort and expense of providing a service for their support, it's not taken up, potentially leaving them out of pocket Hearts will know exactly how many 'international' subscribers they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 7 hours ago, wattie exploited said: apart from we have Craig Wighton so I think 4 would be more realistic A great opportunity for him to bag a couple of goals hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Apologies if I’ve missed it but can someone put up how to go about using a vpn. I’m well used to chucking good money after bad but I’m nowhere near ready to give the likes of Cowdenbeath a penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, pablo said: Think I might just join you with this. Cheers. As others have posted there are plenty of vpn offers out there and your £12.99 Hearts International subscription gets you access to all the other Hearts TV features such as Robbie's press conferences etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, The Roller said: Apologies if I’ve missed it but can someone put up how to go about using a vpn. I’m well used to chucking good money after bad but I’m nowhere near ready to give the likes of Cowdenbeath a penny. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vpnmentor.com/amp/blog/best-vpns-with-free-trials/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: The club might not mind, but they might be disappointed that after going to the effort and expense of providing a service for their support, it's not taken up, potentially leaving them out of pocket The club have no right to be disappointed with the support if the club return a lesson this game being streamed it'll maybe let them understand how strong the anger is towards other clubs that couldn't wait to stick the boot into us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, David McCaig said: As others have posted there are plenty of vpn offers out there and your £12.99 Hearts International subscription gets you access to all the other Hearts TV features such as Robbie's press conferences I had a quick look, found one called VPN Monster which appears to be free. Not sure if there's a catch with it being free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, David McCaig said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vpnmentor.com/amp/blog/best-vpns-with-free-trials/ Cheers, I was looking at NordVPN. I just download that then sign up to Hearts international and the jobs a good un? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, pablo said: I had a quick look, found one called VPN Monster which appears to be free. Not sure if there's a catch with it being free? I'd be a bit sceptical if something was free forever. I've just posted a link of completely trustworthy vpn providers with free trials. Personally I use Nordvpn, but other such as IP Vanish, Express Vpn and Surf Shark are equally good. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vpnmentor.com/amp/blog/best-vpns-with-free-trials/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, The Roller said: Cheers, I was looking at NordVPN. I just download that then sign up to Hearts international and the jobs a good un? Yes, just remember to switch the vpn on and set your location outside UK and Ireland. My living room will temporarily be in New York City this afternoon 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, David McCaig said: I'd be a bit sceptical if something was free forever. I've just posted a link of completely trustworthy vpn providers with free trials. Personally I use Nordvpn, but other such as IP Vanish, Express Vpn and Surf Shark are equally good. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vpnmentor.com/amp/blog/best-vpns-with-free-trials/ Nice one. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 36 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: The club might not mind, but they might be disappointed that after going to the effort and expense of providing a service for their support, it's not taken up, potentially leaving them out of pocket Alternatively people signing up for a £12.99 monthly subscription which sees 100% of revenue going to Hearts may be seen as far more beneficial than numbers of people splitting a one off PPV tenner with Cowdenbeath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 7 hours ago, JimmyCant said: More Hearts fans will buy the stream than would have gone to the game, even if there was not a boycott. (IMO) Any boycott is a personal choice. It’s not been endorsed by anyone at the club, in fact Neilson and Budge and Naismith have all commented against it. it’s not endorsed by any fans body and it’s not endorsed by the FOH. It’s not organised or publicised in any way shape or form. It’s simply a moral dilemma for individual fans. Some will want to go and watch the team and will therefore financially support the host club at the same time as supporting the team. That’s been the way of it for many years now. Others will do neither of those things after arriving at their own decision Personally speaking I would have gone to the Cowdenbeath game had crowds been allowed and I’ll go to all other away grounds apart from Dens, as they crossed the line before and way beyond the others. I won’t be paying £10 for a stream because it’s too expensive to my mind to watch a single game on TV, a pretty low key game at that. I will probably watch it free. Everyone has the right to decide here. There is no right and no wrong and certainly no point in alienating each other for our own personal choices Could you provide links where Budge and Neilson have come and spoken against a boycott please? You’re right it’s up to the individual what they choose to do, thankfully most of us don’t need those two or anyone at the club to think for us. I’m personally for a boycott but can handle giving them a few quid today to see the team, especially seeing as Hearts and East Fife will profit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Could you provide links where Budge and Neilson have come and spoken against a boycott please? You’re right it’s up to the individual what they choose to do, thankfully most of us don’t need those two or anyone at the club to think for us. I’m personally for a boycott but can handle giving them a few quid today to see the team, especially seeing as Hearts and East Fife will profit too. Sign up for Hearts International and have the best of both worlds!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, The Roller said: Well maybe they’ll finally cotton on as to how the majority of Hearts fans are feeling. I hope this flops massively. I doubt the current custodians will ever understand the feelings of the fans, they haven’t so far at any point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, David McCaig said: Sign up for Hearts International and have the best of both worlds!! Will look through the thread and see what I need to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 15 hours ago, The Treasurer said: If this is the case (Hearts losing money) then I think its a bit of a case of "cutting off your nose" One way of looking at it. Another view is it’s a cost worth bearing to pay back Findlay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebroon98 Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 If watching it on a stream and still want to give money to hearts either donate to FOH or give it to the JKB player sponsorship either way hearts still get the dosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 @David McCaig sorry to be a pest, but how do you sign up for international. All, I'm seeing is o Uk option at £5.99 per month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Jambo-Fox said: 😱 is this some sort of fraudulent activity 😂 In some countries it is illegal to use a vpn. in terms of using a vpn in this country to subscribe to an international streaming service to watch a football match that is supposed to be ppv only in this country is questionable at best and fraudulent at worst I’d think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Apparently 368 have done so. In normal times, we would be taking 2-3,000 fans through to Central Park (or to Methil in this instance). They would also be paying more than a tenner. We only get a few hundred tickets for Bayview. It only has one stand and no terracing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, pablo said: @David McCaig sorry to be a pest, but how do you sign up for international. All, I'm seeing is o Uk option at £5.99 per month I just came on looking for the same advice 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, pablo said: @David McCaig sorry to be a pest, but how do you sign up for international. All, I'm seeing is o Uk option at £5.99 per month you need a VPN that is on and set to a country other than the UK, then when you go to the hearts tv website it will have the international option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: We only get a few hundred tickets for Bayview. It only has one stand and no terracing. And how much are said tickets normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: In some countries it is illegal to use a vpn. in terms of using a vpn in this country to subscribe to an international streaming service to watch a football match that is supposed to be ppv only in this country is questionable at best and fraudulent at worst I’d think. An example of one such country is China who like to determine what people can and can't see online. I have a VPN the other way which allows me to choose when the internet thinks I'm in the UK or other places. Handy for streaming certain geo-blocked programmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: And how much are said tickets normally? I'd say for BetFred likely 12-15 for an adult. Edit - checked, £12 last season for EF Betfred game. Attendance 1998. Edited October 10, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 08/10/2020 at 15:48, Turkishcap said: While I wont be taking up the option remember its the chairmen who are dicks in all this. make your own minds up over the clubs and their fans. Should of had a poll, yes or no to PPV, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19/05/2012 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just before i sign up to hearts tv international is it confirmed that those rats at cowdenbeath wont see a penny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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