kingantti1874 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: There isn't going to be N&V. I don’t think so either.. the premier league is all over ver bar the shouting ! they won’t be able to push the huns aside as easily as we were pushed aside.. if they are denied their title.. there will be issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: I don’t think so either.. the premier league is all over ver bar the shouting ! they won’t be able to push the huns aside as easily as we were pushed aside.. if they are denied their title.. there will be issues Agreed. But the legal/commercial issues that the SPFL board warned the clubs about last year are still relevant this year and that alone should ensure no N&V. That goes for the SFA and their precious cup comp too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: There isn't going to be N&V. No, I don’t believe there will be either. A masochistic part of me would like to see it though, it would be the the end of the SFA/spfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: There isn't going to be N&V. Sorry but is it not possible to null and void lower leagues only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: Sorry but is it not possible to null and void lower leagues only? Well, Brechin are still bottom... so, yeah a possibility as that would save them presumably? 🤷♂️ Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Riccarton3 said: Sorry but is it not possible to null and void lower leagues only? You could N&V the whole show - but the legal/commercial implications apply to all clubs at any level. Even the diddy clubs would face potential claims for ST refunds and sponsorship repayments - that is what the SPFL blackmailed the clubs with last year in their legal advice to get N&V off the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 43 minutes ago, kimosavi said: We are going to get done over again here aren't we Afraid so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I'll stick with my 2-0 but we won't score until 85 minutes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: Agreed. But the legal/commercial issues that the SPFL board warned the clubs about last year are still relevant this year and that alone should ensure no N&V. That goes for the SFA and their precious cup comp too. ae now know the cup can be played any time up to December 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franksluckypants Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, frankblack said: If clubs think things through then "pausing" or abandoning the league will have far more severe negative consequences for them. Firstly, furlough isn't a given as the government are allowing football to continue. Secondly, the clubs will still be burning money on overheads. Finally, they run the risk of losing projected income from TV and other finishing prize money. Those in positions to win promotions would be cutting their own throats. The only people I can see benefiting from this are Celtic, who could afford to write off money if it meant they were still technically champions and Sevco's guaranteed title was stolen from them. Just to add, what happens to the £500k grants from the SG if the season gets chucked? An absolutely nonsense idea to even consider it. Agreed. Not sure if all the other clubs have diverted season ticket sales to watching online, but how many requests for partial refunds are they going to get if they go for a null and void? If there's no refund on a null & void season ticket how many of their fans are going to think more than twice next year? (I think most Hearts fans are made of sterner stuff having gone through all the crap imposed on us in the recent past, & we also have the '18 match' at Tynie guarantee). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Don't know if it's been mentioned but got a pop up on my tablet. Some Celtic page or other and they are claiming a group of Rangers fans calling themselves " stop the ten " are responsible for manufactured photos of the Dubai trip. They are always the victims and nothing is their fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 42 minutes ago, David Black said: Don't worry, Dick Gordon will get to the bottom of this. If you can pull him out of Doncaster's bottom for long enough to comment... Seriously, if Maxwell has taken a manager's press interview comments which included discussion on the mental health impact of Covid-19 that they have suffered, out of context and as an excuse to push a "would you like to suspend the league" agenda - he should be taken to task for this. Robbo probably has suffered heat from his employers over this, possibly social media flak etc at a time when he needed support - all because Maxwell has taken press comments as an official club communication. Managers work under license from the SFA, do they not, therefor the SFA has a duty of care towards them. Maxwell has failed in this duty. No doubt the SFA's protectionist rules will protect him from any responsibility or disciplinary action but that should not stop us and other clubs kicking up a massive fuss in the press and highlighting the importance of protecting mental health of footballing staff, nevermind in wider society which is suffering from the effects of an ongoing pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Dundee Ayr off, shenanigans by the sounds of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trained One Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, sac said: Dundee Ayr off, shenanigans by the sounds of it Or is it? What a farce by the sound of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, sac said: Dundee Ayr off, shenanigans by the sounds of it Seems bizzare, just get big Charlie Adam heavy breathing over the patch of pitch for 5 mins and will be as good as new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 52 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: Maxwell wrote: "One SPFL championship club has publicly taken the position that all football should be suspended. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55684189 "The Highland club have told BBC Scotland they are not in favour of a temporary pause." If the club isn't inverness, and no other club has said anything publicly, then what the hell is he talking about? “Publicly” So we should all be able to read on hear their words (club statement) on the subject. Shameful if it’s the words of Robbo that has been construed as the proof that no one is up for this at Inverness. We should be the laughing stock of world football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part_time_jambo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gizmo said: If you can pull him out of Doncaster's bottom for long enough to comment... Seriously, if Maxwell has taken a manager's press interview comments which included discussion on the mental health impact of Covid-19 that they have suffered, out of context and as an excuse to push a "would you like to suspend the league" agenda - he should be taken to task for this. Robbo probably has suffered heat from his employers over this, possibly social media flak etc at a time when he needed support - all because Maxwell has taken press comments as an official club communication. Managers work under license from the SFA, do they not, therefor the SFA has a duty of care towards them. Maxwell has failed in this duty. No doubt the SFA's protectionist rules will protect him from any responsibility or disciplinary action but that should not stop us and other clubs kicking up a massive fuss in the press and highlighting the importance of protecting mental health of footballing staff, nevermind in wider society which is suffering from the effects of an ongoing pandemic. The mind boggles at the thought of a Gordon/Doncaster/Lawell threesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, sac said: Dundee Ayr off, shenanigans by the sounds of it John Nelms waiting on an email arriving from the SPFL if they can delay the game😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 SFA using Robbo. Sleekit barstewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 ICT chief exec on BBC Scotland just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: SFA using Robbo. Sleekit barstewards. Just now, WageThief said: ICT chief exec on BBC Scotland just now. I trust they are backing Robbo and making a real noise over this disgusting hijacking of someone's health issues and press views to further Maxwell's agenda. He should be sacked, frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Said it when Maxwell was appointed - the man is a complete dolt. This letter just proves the point. Anywhere else after a mess like this he would be out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Gizmo said: I trust they are backing Robbo and making a real noise over this disgusting hijacking of someone's health issues and press views to further Maxwell's agenda. He should be sacked, frankly. Yeah pretty much (not that Maxwell should be sacked). He agrees with English who finds the whole thing "remarkable". Also made a little remark about not being able to talk at the meeting, per the Stenhousemuir chairman. Stewart is on as well (and seems bang on too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Maxwell should be sacked immediately. Listening to the ICT chairman he is livid and rightly so. Get Maxwell sacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Can someone summarise what ICT chief exec said on there radio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Maxwell should be sacked immediately. Listening to the ICT chairman he is livid and rightly so. Get Maxwell sacked Glad they are taking a firm stance - Maxwell's behaviour is a disgrace. Not only for the lack of duty of care towards Robbo, but also you wonder what - and who's - agenda he is pushing here. I doubt he has the wit to act unilaterally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Honestly the more I think about how progressive employers try to center mental health, particularly during a pandemic, the more angry I get at the dinosaurs in the SFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, milky_26 said: Can someone summarise what ICT chief exec said on there radio? He said Robbo didn't call for football to be stopped as Maxwell claimed. Even if he had he wasn't speaking for the club. When he first got the email he couldn't work out which club had called for a stoppage. He couldn't understand why Maxwell didn't pick up the phone to find out the clubs position. They don't want a suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Gizmo said: Glad they are taking a firm stance - Maxwell's behaviour is a disgrace. Not only for the lack of duty of care towards Robbo, but also you wonder what - and who's - agenda he is pushing here. I doubt he has the wit to act unilaterally. Not listening, but read ICT’s comments. so Robbo speaks out about his own mental health, and his concern for others, and his words are twisted by the SPFL to get some sort of agenda in motion. Disgusting. A total disgrace at any time. Even more so, when mental health is such a big issue these days, and one of the biggest killers of young men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Paolo said: Not listening, but read ICT’s comments. so Robbo speaks out about his own mental health, and his concern for others, and his words are twisted by the SPFL to get some sort of agenda in motion. Disgusting. A total disgrace at any time. Even more so, when mental health is such a big issue these days, and one of the biggest killers of young men. Maxwell should 100% walk for that. If he knew what he was doing it was incredibly underhand and manipulative, and completely lacking in empathy. If he didn't, it was incredibly stupid. Either way, not what you expect from someone in his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Maxwell should 100% walk for that. If he knew what he was doing it was incredibly underhand and manipulative, and completely lacking in empathy. If he didn't, it was incredibly stupid. Either way, not what you expect from someone in his position. I think he knew what he was doing. You are right though, it is major stupidity and incompetency if he did not. I am not sure what is worse. Probably the former Either should be enough to have him removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, fancy a brew said: He said Robbo didn't call for football to be stopped as Maxwell claimed. Even if he had he wasn't speaking for the club. When he first got the email he couldn't work out which club had called for a stoppage. He couldn't understand why Maxwell didn't pick up the phone to find out the clubs position. They don't want a suspension. Cheers just what I imagined he would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmorewasgash Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Probably at parkhead waiting on his next instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Maxwell unavailable to talk on the radio today. On the naughty step. Feckin trumpet. Maxwell kind of blows up the theory that ex players will make better officials for the SFA or SPFL. He’s an idiot. When you listen to most pundits, it becomes obvious that there’s not too many ex players out there with much of a brain. If I was a Patrick Thistle fan, I would question why he did nothing to try to save his old club from the shenanigans of the summer. He just sat back and watched Celtic’s cabal use them as collateral damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 All robbo said was he worried for his and his players mental well-being. How maxwell Has spun that to get the championship clubs to consider ending the season is ****ing incredible (in the bad word). Using someone’s mental health like that is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Maxwell should be sacked immediately. Doncaster and the ****s at the SPFL should walk for allowing the SFA to bypass them with a view to stopping the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Bet Maxwell was in Dubai staying in the tourist resort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Paolo said: Not listening, but read ICT’s comments. so Robbo speaks out about his own mental health, and his concern for others, and his words are twisted by the SPFL to get some sort of agenda in motion. Disgusting. A total disgrace at any time. Even more so, when mental health is such a big issue these days, and one of the biggest killers of young men. 1. This latest fiasco (and I totally agree with the points being made about failing to respond to someone simply talking about duty of care to employees/ people) 2. Continuing to make decisions eg stopping lower leagues without consultation 3. Which continues last season's decisions which were written by 2 people without bringing clubs with them. And using threats and bribery to get what they wanted. It doesn't add up to 'we represent the clubs and just follow their wishes'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybalfour Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 This is the same guy who was hardly in the door in 2018 when he made comments about abuse victims in youth football and possibly should have been sacked then.How many gaffes do you have to make before you are shown the door.Tom English took up the case then and may well do with this one also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Maxwell should be sacked immediately. Doncaster and the ****s at the SPFL should walk for allowing the SFA to bypass them with a view to stopping the Championship. Doncaster is on the sfa board so would have known about this. Chances are he knew when he agreed to answer the DR's questions, and 'couldn't' rule out n&v. In fact I think that's why he did the Record interview to give the idea some airtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Maxwell showing himself up to be just as incompetent as Doncaster. Smelly looking tramp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Operation null and void will be underway you'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Rick Sanchez said: Operation null and void will be underway you'd imagine. It's been underway since Celtic lost the last Glasgow derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrykitch Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 They will likely have to drop it now, awful stuff again from the sfa/SPL, claiming people would back it when nobody seems to be doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, kila said: Bet Maxwell was in Dubai staying in the tourist resort Put your house on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Gizmo said: If you can pull him out of Doncaster's bottom for long enough to comment... Seriously, if Maxwell has taken a manager's press interview comments which included discussion on the mental health impact of Covid-19 that they have suffered, out of context and as an excuse to push a "would you like to suspend the league" agenda - he should be taken to task for this. Robbo probably has suffered heat from his employers over this, possibly social media flak etc at a time when he needed support - all because Maxwell has taken press comments as an official club communication. Managers work under license from the SFA, do they not, therefor the SFA has a duty of care towards them. Maxwell has failed in this duty. No doubt the SFA's protectionist rules will protect him from any responsibility or disciplinary action but that should not stop us and other clubs kicking up a massive fuss in the press and highlighting the importance of protecting mental health of footballing staff, nevermind in wider society which is suffering from the effects of an ongoing pandemic. Totally agree. Neither Doncaster or Maxwell are qualified for the positions they hold. Its a completely ridiculous situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, OTT said: Totally agree. Neither Doncaster or Maxwell are qualified for the positions they hold. Its a completely ridiculous situation. Doncaster comes across as quite a shrewd manipulator. Maxwell, every time I hear him, sounds like an utter dolt.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Doncaster comes across as quite a shrewd manipulator. Maxwell, every time I hear him, sounds like an utter dolt.... Doncaster's definitely a pro at the sleekit stuff. Maybe why he's getting the big bucks. Maxwell seems out of his depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Doncaster comes across as quite a shrewd manipulator. Maxwell, every time I hear him, sounds like an utter dolt.... Very,very polite way of putting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 The BBC Scotland Sports website has taken this story down. I wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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