SPFL and Covid ( Leagues 1 and 2 to restart )

[jambo-in-furness]

 

 

Slightly off topic,  but BBCs daily sports podcast is running a wee bit late.

[Ex member of the SaS]

2 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

First of all let me apologise to all Jambos on here for all the information I received and posted in good faith. To anyone who thinks I was playing members on here, then you are entitled to your opinion and no doubt your minds are made up. After speaking with LD a short time ago then I have no doubt that his contact was sincere with his information, likewise when it was given to me. I’m as gutted as the rest of us are. I’m also sorry to the members who I have been in private conversation with as this has ended in the most horrific way for us all. Once again I can only apologise for getting people’s hopes us and I include my own on that. Gut wrenching does not even come close to how I feel at the moment. 
 

As for the crowdfunding page, it was closed down at the request of the management of HMFC as it was felt it was detracting from the objectives of the FOH. They would rather any monies raised to fight a court case is actioned through the FOH ans. it independently. I have respected and complied with  their wishes as such. 
 
The final tally of £1,295 has been paid over in two instalments.  The first for £1100 and the second for £195. All admin costs were  paid for by myself so our club receives the full amount that was raised. Had I had an incline that this vote was 16-26 against, i may have been inclined to ignore the wishes of the club and kept this going. 
 

We live to fight another day and will never forget the clubs that have conspired to put us down. 
 

Always Hearts

Only Hearts 

 

SJ 
 

 

 

Can we get a statement from FOH that money from the fund will be made available to the club to fight the case?

[GinRummy]

3 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

First of all let me apologise to all Jambos on here for all the information I received and posted in good faith. To anyone who thinks I was playing members on here, then you are entitled to your opinion and no doubt your minds are made up. After speaking with LD a short time ago then I have no doubt that his contact was sincere with his information, likewise when it was given to me. I’m as gutted as the rest of us are. I’m also sorry to the members who I have been in private conversation with as this has ended in the most horrific way for us all. Once again I can only apologise for getting people’s hopes us and I include my own on that. Gut wrenching does not even come close to how I feel at the moment. 
 

As for the crowdfunding page, it was closed down at the request of the management of HMFC as it was felt it was detracting from the objectives of the FOH. They would rather any monies raised to fight a court case is actioned through the FOH ans. it independently. I have respected and complied with  their wishes as such. 
 
The final tally of £1,295 has been paid over in two instalments.  The first for £1100 and the second for £195. All admin costs were  paid for by myself so our club receives the full amount that was raised. Had I had an incline that this vote was 16-26 against, i may have been inclined to ignore the wishes of the club and kept this going. 
 

We live to fight another day and will never forget the clubs that have conspired to put us down. 
 

Always Hearts

Only Hearts 

 

SJ 
 

 

 

👍 it’s no your fault. Any transfer rumours you’d like to put your neck on the line for? 😂

Edited June 15, 2020 by GinRummy

[Big Slim Stylee]

1 minute ago, jamboinglasgow said:

Make no mistake, there is going to be a lot shit thrown at Hearts from opposition fans and press through out this. But they are angry cause they know it's wrong but they want Hearts to suffer.

I’m not sure why that would be a scintilla of concern? Or why we should care? It means nothing.

 

We’ve acted honourably throughout. I don’t give a flying shite what any other club or fans think. If they had our resources they’d do exactly the same. 

[NANOJAMBO]

Just now, redjambo said:

 

Aye, but did they apply those powers in a regular fair-handed way? I say no, the Rangers dossier says no, and I imagine that our lawyers will also say no. 100% we will be contesting that resolution.

Mate , how many times? I'm not going to spend any more time on this.  If you want to talk about the dossier  and show me the bits in question then we can debate it. You go round in circles about the "resolution" when the OP didnt mention it and I spoke only of their powers to act. You introduced the "resolution ", not me.  

[1874robbo]

3 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

Make no mistake, there is going to be a lot shit thrown at Hearts from opposition fans and press through out this. But they are angry cause they know it's wrong but they want Hearts to suffer.

It has become crystal clear over these weeks we are friendless anyway so who gives a feck.

[Don Dan]

Is there a club way of donating other than FoH for this legal challenge. 
Sorry as I’m sure it’s out there some where👀

[adam1998]

Look forward to seeing today's vote outcome, surely will come out at some point - this'll make it easy to  identify which teams i'll continue to visit in the future - the rest can self implode 😏

[Jamboelite]

Guys im just in and there are 50 pages what is the latest.

[Lonewolflins]

52 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

GIRFUY

 

Can't wait until clubs who vote against us die. 

 

Hopefully we can add a nice wee kill tally to our sleeves for a permanent reminder to others we're not to be ****ed with. 

 

I I

Haha , love it 

[S Form]

Just now, jambo-in-furness said:

 

 

Slightly off topic,  but BBCs daily sports podcast is running a wee bit late.

Noticed that. Interesting, since the earlier blurb promoting it said Donald Findlay QC had some bad news for the SPFL board. Mmmm...

[milky_26]

Just now, Jamboelite said:

Guys im just in and there are 50 pages what is the latest.

voted down only 16 clubs voted for it. club statement says court action instigated

[GinRummy]

Just now, Jamboelite said:

Guys im just in and there are 50 pages what is the latest.

16 clubs voted for reconstruction. Statement on official site saying we are raising legal action and thanking the fans. 

[Bozi]

20 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

 I wonder if Tam will be saying the players should tell the club to **** off?  I’m sure he’ll be consistent.  Hope you guys with Twitter are all over him!

I have been watching with interest, typically Hibs fans were jizzing themselves into a frenzy about their chance to have a go at us on the back of the vote but have, unsurprisingly for them, hone back into hiding (probably in their peeping hole in their sisters wardrobe)

[Cruyff]

1 minute ago, Jamboelite said:

Guys im just in and there are 50 pages what is the latest.

Reconstruction is over. Hearts have begun legal proceedings. 

[neilnunb]

1 minute ago, Jamboelite said:

Guys im just in and there are 50 pages what is the latest.

 

We're off to court!

[redjambo]

1 minute ago, Jamboelite said:

Guys im just in and there are 50 pages what is the latest.

 

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53053246

[King Of The Cat Cafe]

1 hour ago, cb1874 said:

Agreed...boycott.

 

 

If we do boycott, could that mean they would ask the team we beat in the quarter finals to take our place in the semis?

 

Just asking.

[22games nro]

7 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

Make no mistake, there is going to be a lot shit thrown at Hearts from opposition fans and press through out this. But they are angry cause they know it's wrong but they want Hearts to suffer.

 

the more there is the more i'll laugh in their faces

[martoon]

As suggested in the statement it's a legal matter now, so there won't, presumably, be much by way of statements or comment from the club. 

 

Hopefully, now that we know the club are fighting our corner, there will be patience on JKB. 

 

Discretion and silence, even in the face of further hostility, is our friend. 

 

FTA, the Lochend filth in particular. 

[kingantti1874]

3 minutes ago, Koolkeith said:

I can’t see him coming to Tynecastle any time soon. I think he’d need a police escort.

****ing right. 

[true-jambo]

11 minutes ago, Biffa Bacon said:

Indeed, fair play to the bridie muncher, back on the good list as he tried to rectify the position.

Who is the Chairman they are paying their respects to?

[Blackshades]

7 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

First of all let me apologise to all Jambos on here for all the information I received and posted in good faith. To anyone who thinks I was playing members on here, then you are entitled to your opinion and no doubt your minds are made up. After speaking with LD a short time ago then I have no doubt that his contact was sincere with his information, likewise when it was given to me. I’m as gutted as the rest of us are. I’m also sorry to the members who I have been in private conversation with as this has ended in the most horrific way for us all. Once again I can only apologise for getting people’s hopes us and I include my own on that. Gut wrenching does not even come close to how I feel at the moment. 
 

As for the crowdfunding page, it was closed down at the request of the management of HMFC as it was felt it was detracting from the objectives of the FOH. They would rather any monies raised to fight a court case is actioned through the FOH ans. it independently. I have respected and complied with  their wishes as such. 
 
The final tally of £1,295 has been paid over in two instalments.  The first for £1100 and the second for £195. All admin costs were  paid for by myself so our club receives the full amount that was raised. Had I had an incline that this vote was 16-26 against, i may have been inclined to ignore the wishes of the club and kept this going. 
 

We live to fight another day and will never forget the clubs that have conspired to put us down. 
 

Always Hearts

Only Hearts 

 

SJ 
 

 

 

Don't beat yourself up about it .you posted info believing it was going to happen and it hasn't .we've all been told things we thought was factual but turned out false 

Edited June 15, 2020 by Blackshades

[Jamboelite]

1 minute ago, milky_26 said:

voted down only 16 clubs voted for it. club statement says court action instigated

Only 16 voted for it ****ing hell so Even though 30 clubs were unaffected and still they **** over three member clubs.

 

**** every single club in Scotland with the exception of 3-4

[NANOJAMBO]

4 minutes ago, jambo-in-furness said:

  
 

Aye but,  the finishing of the league was taken under false information and also Dundee’s dodgy vote

That may be so and it might be contested in court.My point is  , THAT resolution did not "relegate" Hearts. Im talking about the powers of the Board/clubs, not about if/whether those powers were executed properly. 

 

[1971fozzy]

28 minutes ago, Barack said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-make-player-wage-request-22194899.amp?__twitter_impression=true

 

 

So it begins. **** 'em...

these rats wait for furlough to end then ask for cuts. Deceptive vermin tramps. 
cant wait for McAnus, and Harper’s comments. Vile club

[kingantti1874]

I still can’t get in my head why teams below the premiership would vote against “exactly” the same structure we have today, only with hearts and ICT not in it giving them greater opportunity to play in an expanded premiership 🤷‍♂️😂😂

[Pasquale for King]

6 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

That's not very generous of you! @Pasquale for King: buy yourself two pints and say that they're from me.

Will do, when someone tells me where to go that isn’t Jessie Mays 😜

[hmfc_steve]

7 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

First of all let me apologise to all Jambos on here for all the information I received and posted in good faith. To anyone who thinks I was playing members on here, then you are entitled to your opinion and no doubt your minds are made up. After speaking with LD a short time ago then I have no doubt that his contact was sincere with his information, likewise when it was given to me. I’m as gutted as the rest of us are. I’m also sorry to the members who I have been in private conversation with as this has ended in the most horrific way for us all. Once again I can only apologise for getting people’s hopes us and I include my own on that. Gut wrenching does not even come close to how I feel at the moment. 
 

As for the crowdfunding page, it was closed down at the request of the management of HMFC as it was felt it was detracting from the objectives of the FOH. They would rather any monies raised to fight a court case is actioned through the FOH ans. it independently. I have respected and complied with  their wishes as such. 
 
The final tally of £1,295 has been paid over in two instalments.  The first for £1100 and the second for £195. All admin costs were  paid for by myself so our club receives the full amount that was raised. Had I had an incline that this vote was 16-26 against, i may have been inclined to ignore the wishes of the club and kept this going. 
 

We live to fight another day and will never forget the clubs that have conspired to put us down. 
 

Always Hearts

Only Hearts 

 

SJ 
 

 

 

fairy nuff

[cb1874]

Just now, King Of The Cat Cafe said:

 

 

If we do boycott, could that mean they would ask the team we beat in the quarter finals to take our place in the semis?

 

Just asking.

No idea...just don’t turn up then. No official boycott, just a no show. 

[davemclaren]

6 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

Can we get a statement from FOH that money from the fund will be made available to the club to fight the case?

FoH don’t put any restrictions on how the club use money donated. 

[Ethan Hunt]

47 minutes ago, BlackJAC? said:

 

Way to lay it at the feet of the fans.  Whether they go to away games or not isn't really any of your business.  Love the internet mentality that people think they can dictate what others should and shouldn't do.  Usually spouted by those that never go to away games themselves. So they lose nothing, but get to act all high and mighty. If you don't want to go to away games, don't.  But both you and i know folk will.  Just as the Rangers fans did.

 

But on the bright side, at least you can sit in your house every other Saturday and scoff at your fellow fans. So it's not a complete travesty.  I'm awaiting the first "omfg, cancel your SKY sub".  Then we'll have went full Rangers then.

Do you go to away games? Will you continue going to away games regardless of where they are played?

[Clerry Jambo]

Foundation of Hearts Retweeted

 

 

 

Iain Macleod

 

@iain_mac

·

19m

 

Anyone wishing to pledge or make "one off" donations to

@The_FOH

can do so by following these links https://rewards.foundationofhearts.org/own-the-history-shape-the-future/… Existing pledgers https://rewards.foundationofhearts.org/my-account Only if you can afford to do so.

[Guest ToqueJambo]

11 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

Make no mistake, there is going to be a lot shit thrown at Hearts from opposition fans and press through out this. But they are angry cause they know it's wrong but they want Hearts to suffer.

 

 

Who cares. My view of Scottish football has changed possibly forever. I've been annoyed with it before but I've never seen this level of harm wished on clubs that are already in bad circumstances (like every club) because of a global pandemic beyond their control. 

 

I don't know I can ever read a magazine like Nutmeg or watch View from the Terrace again with their whimsical, gushing love letters to smaller football clubs in Scotland and the way they paint their fans as true football fans. They're not if they're sitting thinking this is a good result. We'll be fine but these small teams have possibly condemned Thistle in particular to a very uncertain future.

 

Most of these clubs voted to push fellow teams into potentially fatal financial trouble when everyone is already in trouble?

 

This has shown Scottish football to be a much bigger cesspit than I realised. I genuinely thought it was mostly 40 vs 2 clubs in Scotland and the OF were the problem. It's not and instead of tackling the real problems in the game, media folk prefer to make out we're this lovable, quirky little football country. We're totally out on our own in Europe as having done this to fellow teams.

Edited June 15, 2020 by ToqueJambo

[EIEIO]

5 minutes ago, Koolkeith said:

I can’t see him coming to Tynecastle any time soon. I think he’d need a police escort.

He might be in the High Street soon though.

[indianajones]

Seriously looking forward to us becoming a right poisonous bunch again at Tynecastle. 

 

Bring on the hatred. 

[buzzbomb1958]

38 minutes ago, David McCaig said:

I agree if ever there is a time for us to come together and uninte as one support puttingas aside any petty differences its now.  Hearts and only Hearts.

We are not old rangers we will back our club to the hilt ,take note ye sevconians

[martoon]

2 minutes ago, Blackshades said:

Don't beat yourself up about it .you posted info believing it was going to happen and it hasn't .we've all been told things we thought was incorrect 

 

Completely agree re @Saughton Jambo.

 

No harm, no foul, he was just passing on what was passed to him. 

[Sooperstar]

9 minutes ago, EIEIO said:

That aged well, just catching up an hour later.

I'm quite fine with how it has aged.

[Ethan Hunt]

3 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

FoH don’t put any restrictions on how the club use money donated. 

FOH is undoubtedly the best vehicle for anybody to give money to Hearts. I’m sure there will be a rallying call from them in the very near future. Folks just need to give things some time to settle a bit.

[Brave Hearts]

35 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53053246

 

Hearts have started a legal challenge against their relegation after clubs failed to back league reconstruction.

The Tynecastle oufit - along with Partick Thistle and Stranraer - have had their demotions confirmed after only 16 SPFL clubs indicated they would support an expanded top flight.

Hearts say they are are "disappointed, yet sadly not surprised" by the news.

A club statement confirmed that the "necessary steps" have been taken to start legal proceedings.

"We have stated from the beginning that the unjust and unfair treatment of Hearts, Partick Thistle, Stranraer, and indeed other clubs, cannot be allowed to go unchallenged," a statement read.

"While many weeks have been wasted in trying to find a solution, we must now formally challenge this outcome. Now that all other avenues are closed, we are left with no choice but to proceed with a legal challenge."

 

The SPFL say their board has now "agreed to draw a line under reconstruction talks" and the current 12-10-10-10 set-up will remain.

That means Hearts are consigned to the Scottish Championship, Partick Thistle to the League One and Stranraer to League Two.

It also means that Lowland League champions Kelty Hearts and Highland League counterparts Brora Rangers will not be invited to join the SPFL.

Hearts reiterated their belief that no club should be disadvantaged unnecessarily amid the Covid-19 pandemic and say the failure to avoid doing so is "an unfortunate condemnation of Scottish football".

The Edinburgh club say they must now act on behalf of their supporters, employees and sponsors.

"We cannot, and will not, sit idly by and watch the decisions made in the past few months further damage Heart of Midlothian Football Club," the statement added, addressing the fans.

"Thank you for fighting for us, now allow us to do the same for you."

JUSTICE for the JAMBOS 

 

and

 

Partick Thistle

Stranraer

Kelty Hearts

Brora Rangers

with recognition to :

 

Inverness Caley Thistle

Falkirk

Edinburgh City

 

Scottish football and the majority of the clubs are despicable especially :

 

hobos

septic

sheep

hamilton

dross county

st midden

killie

dundee

dundee hobos

ayr

dunfermline

alloa

raith

elgin

stenhousemuir

and last (again), but not least, Brechin 

 

 

[Back to 2005]

5 minutes ago, indianajones said:

Seriously looking forward to us becoming a right poisonous bunch again at Tynecastle. 

 

Bring on the hatred. 

If there is 1 good thing to come out of this then it has United the whole fan base. 

[martoon]

Just now, jonnothejambo said:

 

Don't worry about it, SJ. I know you posted in good faith, but in the shitshow that is the SPFL can happen. 

 

We all now stick together for the legal proceedings and we never forget those who have stuck the knife in. 

 

We know who our real enemies are and 

 

 

 

Well said, jonno. 

[Francis Albert]

Good statement by Ann - strong but reasoned and dignified. 

 

(I don't like stickies but I think there is a case for one here for significant statements and hard news of developments. I am struggling to keep up with this and I have wasted too much time in recent days reading pure speculation about Doncaster and Lawell's supposed plans and efforts to deliver reconstruction)

 

PS thanks to those who posted todays news -  to late to save me ploughing through pages  and a siimilar "sevice"v would be alternative to a sticky at busy times. 

 

 

Edited June 15, 2020 by Francis Albert

[OmiyaHearts]

Bring it on. I'm looking forward to this, whatever the outcome. There might be some lower league casualties along the way, but this is what the clubs voted for today.

 

They knew what would happen if they voted against recon.

[CJGJ]

2 minutes ago, Jamboelite said:

Only 16 voted for it ****ing hell so Even though 30 clubs were unaffected and still they **** over three member clubs.

 

**** every single club in Scotland with the exception of 3-4

I would like to see all of those clubs called to court and asked that very question

 

If there was no impact on you and other clubs would be better off why did you reject the proposition ?..or who told you to vote this way

[soonbe110]

2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

I still can’t get in my head why teams below the premiership would vote against “exactly” the same structure we have today, only with hearts and ICT not in it giving them greater opportunity to play in an expanded premiership 🤷‍♂️😂😂

That’s the big mystery in all this for me. I’m thinking many championship clubs don’t want ICT promoted so that explains their voting but leagues 1 and 2 baffle me. Maybe league 2 teams know that Kelty will skoosh their league with    Brora or Auchinleck winning it the next season. Who knows. 

[martoon]

"Away up in Gorgie at Tynecastle Park..."

[dannymack]

'I don’t understand how Hearts can take this to court when they must have voted to end the season?  It was a unanimous vote? 🤷🏻‍♂️ Am I missing something?'

 

 

Can someone please answer this ?

 

A text message to me from a concerned Hibs supporter 🤔

Edited June 15, 2020 by dannymack

[Ethan Hunt]

59 minutes ago, BlackJAC? said:

 

Way to lay it at the feet of the fans.  Whether they go to away games or not isn't really any of your business.  Love the internet mentality that people think they can dictate what others should and shouldn't do.  Usually spouted by those that never go to away games themselves. So they lose nothing, but get to act all high and mighty. If you don't want to go to away games, don't.  But both you and i know folk will.  Just as the Rangers fans did.

 

But on the bright side, at least you can sit in your house every other Saturday and scoff at your fellow fans. So it's not a complete travesty.  I'm awaiting the first "omfg, cancel your SKY sub".  Then we'll have went full Rangers then.

Steady!