buba Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Sorry if already been posted, but if we end up in the championship next season, and there is a proposal to start it in January and play half a season, would there have to be a vote for that? Or would it just happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Reports claiming the Championship clubs will vote against. Fine, we go to court, and even if we fail and end up in the Championship they will feel the wrath of no away fans and no Maroon pound. Keep an note of those who would feck us over and make sure they never receive a penny from us. The Maroon pound chat is chronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Last Laff said: The Maroon pound chat is chronic. No it’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Not much Sky can say, they know the rules and how the split works. They weren’t able to bully anyone into making sure Sevco jumped straight into the Premiership in 2012 so can’t see the outcome being any more favourable for us this time. They weren’t due a £7m rebate on an unfulfilled contract in 2012!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Billybuffjaw said: Did Gary Mackay not say the same thing? I know a few of my family feel the same. This isn’t the definition of being dignified. It’s the definition of accepting being shafted when we still had ample opportunity to stay in the division. What is so difficult about this to understand. Incidentally, I Stopped listening or reading anything Mackay said a long long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Last Laff said: The Maroon pound chat is chronic. Why's that, then? We all know what it means, and it is succinct and to the point. Or do you just not like the colour maroon for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: The Maroon pound chat is chronic. What’s chronic is any club who has to rely on other clubs away support because they themselves hardly have any fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesandears Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, buba said: Sorry if already been posted, but if we end up in the championship next season, and there is a proposal to start it in January and play half a season, would there have to be a vote for that? Or would it just happen? Yes. A vote would be required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, David McCaig said: I think that’s what she was meaning with the Premiership needs Hearts more than the Championship. If Championship clubs think about this sensibly the last thing they need is Hearts in the division forcing them to start in August and also ensuring that they have no chance of automatic promotion. The SFA and the SPFL have the power to force everyone to start in August. SPFL has decent negotiating position if it wants to force this through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorillajam Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES7qv7autNE&feature=emb_title Dave Cormack currently live on Youtube (RedTV). May mention our situation and league reconstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 30 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Hilarious 🙄 Well one of us has a sense of humour😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, jamboozy said: No it’s not. If you’re happy coping Rangers and their Blue pound crap while saying they are boycotting for being unfairly chucked down to league 2 bash on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, GinRummy said: What’s chronic is any club who has to rely on other clubs away support because they themselves hardly have any fans That is even more chronic, I agree. I don’t think there’s any clubs in the championship or below that ever rely on other clubs away support ever though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint the town maroon Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, Jambo66 said: I have a feeling that the proposal will be passed pretty comfortably. Unlike many on here, I think Hibs will vote in favour as well. I really don't see their owner agreeing to vote in the way some of their more vociferous fans would wish. The only possible reason that Hibs would want us to vanish would be if they thought that Hearts fans would switch allegiance in sufficiently large numbers to make a significant difference to the value of the club and it's prospects on the pitch. No-one who knows anything about Scottish football would think that is a realistic possibility. I also don't think that folk on social media are representative of the bulk of any club's supporters. Every single Hearts fan I know loves derby day. And while we dominate, that's hardly a reason for the majority of Hibs fans to want us to disappear. I just don't buy it. Obviously, there are those among their support that do want that result, but they'd miss us if we disappear. Hamilton have previously indicated broad support for reconstruction and Celtic, Sevco and Aberdeen look in favour as well. As for the rest, there is no good reason to vote against. If they do, they will surely know that it's going to cost them shedloads of cash. My guess is that the premiership might even be unanimous here. If it is, or even if 11 vote in favour, the pressure will be enormous on the other clubs. The ultimate threat is that the premiership forms a break away league and they simply won't want that to happen. The championship clubs look less convinced at the moment, but I think after a few days of grumbling, they will also fall in line. To be honest, all of that makes be a bit disappointed, because I don't want the proposal to be passed. And this is the main reason why I think it will - too many clubs are petrified about the possibility of the SPFL's dirty linen being washed in a public case. I would be delighted if this ends up in court, because football in this country needs a complete reboot. This proposal won’t get anything like the votes it needs. So You won’t be disappointed! St Mirren, St Johnstone, Hamilton, Ross County and Hibs will vote against. It won’t even get a majority in the championship let alone 75% and same for league one and two clubs. I also think Celtic will abstain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, redjambo said: Why's that, then? We all know what it means, and it is succinct and to the point. Or do you just not like the colour maroon for some reason. Because it’s Hunnish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: The SFA and the SPFL have the power to force everyone to start in August. SPFL has decent negotiating position if it wants to force this through. What is there to negotiate? The leagues start in August, turn up and play your matches or face expulsion from the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint the town maroon Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, GinRummy said: What’s chronic is any club who has to rely on other clubs away support because they themselves hardly have any fans our away support is average at best. It’s hardly a money spinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Last Laff said: Because it’s Hunnish. But they play in blue. It’s more “pension-ish” - the Grey Pound 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: If you’re happy coping Rangers and their Blue pound crap while saying they are boycotting for being unfairly chucked down to league 2 bash on. Will do, anybody posting on here with any kind of effort to have Hearts fans pulling together you put it down why is that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Paint the town maroon said: our away support is average at best. It’s hardly a money spinner. I didn’t mention our away support mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 The championship clubs are rubbing their hand at the thought of us in their league. No chance they will vote for reconstruction, even if it means they can't play their matches. They are that thick and self interested. Said it earlier, no part time club should have power over full time professional clubs who are looking to help Scottish football as a whole. Clubs saying no because they might get a few hundred more away supporters through the gate is the most tinpot thing I have heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: If you’re happy coping Rangers and their Blue pound crap while saying they are boycotting for being unfairly chucked down to league 2 bash on. So you're happy throwing money into the coffers of clubs who didn't show any consideration for our future while looking after their own self interests, in essence throwing us to the dogs? You masochist, you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, David McCaig said: They weren’t due a £7m rebate on an unfulfilled contract in 2012!! We don’t even know if they are asking for this back do we? Thought it was £10m in the Rangers dossier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husref musemic Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, AHS51 said: So clubs are getting almost a week to decide on reconstruction but got only 2 days to decide on ending the season. Again highlighting how backwards we are in this country funny it's given time now that there's no bulldozing through of celtic's title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, David McCaig said: What is there to negotiate? The leagues start in August, turn up and play your matches or face expulsion from the league. Exactly. Or vote this through and we can discuss being more flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, jamboozy said: Will do, anybody posting on here with any kind of effort to have Hearts fans pulling together you put it down why is that ? I do? Give some examples then, I’m all ears. Away back to copying rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Paint the town maroon said: our away support is average at best. It’s hardly a money spinner. They won’t need it then will they? Better if no one goes to away games by your reckoning they wont need it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, redjambo said: So you're happy throwing money into the coffers of clubs who didn't show any consideration for our future while looking after their own self interests, in essence throwing us to the dogs? You masochist, you. When did I ever suggest or say I was doing any of the above? Try not to make up stories because someone has a difference of opinion to you. I couldn’t give a **** about the interest of any other club. The term the maroon pound is clearly copying the huns though even the same motives behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Because it’s Hunnish. Ironic username alert 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Because it’s Hunnish. I hope that some day we can get away from comparing everything to the OF. Some people are just besotted by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: I do? Give some examples then, I’m all ears. Away back to copying rangers. Yup , and you go back to putting down Hearts supporters 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Jamhammer said: Ironic username alert 😀 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, jambopilms said: The championship clubs are rubbing their hand at the thought of us in their league. No chance they will vote for reconstruction, even if it means they can't play their matches. They are that thick and self interested. Said it earlier, no part time club should have power over full time professional clubs who are looking to help Scottish football as a whole. Clubs saying no because they might get a few hundred more away supporters through the gate is the most tinpot thing I have heard. They are in for a shock when we dont turn up at their grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: When did I ever suggest or say I was doing any of the above? Try not to make up stories because someone has a difference of opinion to you. I couldn’t give a **** about the interest of any other club. The term the maroon pound is clearly copying the huns though even the same motives behind it. Do you or do you not agree with those motives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Agentjambo said: They are in for a shock when we dont turn up at their grounds. It’s easy to talk about boycotting but is it really going to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, jamboozy said: Yup , and you go back to putting down Hearts supporters 👍 So you’ve no examples then. Thought so. I’m putting down the term, no supporter at all. Stop making up stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, redjambo said: Do you or do you not agree with those motives? I agree with the motives of **** every club out there and concentrate on our own, aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: We don’t even know if they are asking for this back do we? Thought it was £10m in the Rangers dossier. Did the £10m not include BT as well. We don’t know if Sky want the money back or not, but they are due it if they call the debt in and that means that the SPFL are in no position not to do exactly what Sky tell them to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: They are in for a shock when we dont turn up at their grounds. I’m pretty sure most clubs know the general feeling of the hearts support in all honesty. No grounds going to have thousands of away fans next season regardless either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Last Laff said: I agree with the motives of **** every club out there and concentrate on our own, aye. Good man. I hope that that will include not spending your maroon pound with any of them who voted us into a perilous situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoatemyhamster Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Last Laff said: I agree with the motives of **** every club out there and concentrate on our own, aye. So youre just not happy with the rip off name then? If we called it the " ram yer tickets" campaign, are you in? Edited May 27, 2020 by brunoatemyhamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: It’s easy to talk about boycotting but is it really going to happen? I believe it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: So you’ve no examples then. Thought so. I’m putting down the term, no supporter at all. Stop making up stories. We all know who the non Hearts supporter is and it’s not me, I’m not trawling through all the negative posts you’ve submitted because you requested it😂go back to posting your negative shite, your good at it👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, redjambo said: Good man. I hope that that will include not spending your maroon pound with any of them who voted us into a perilous situation. My personal money will be spent on Hearts and hearts only, yes 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Just now, brunoatemyhamster said: So your just not happy with the rip off name then? If we called it the " ram yer tickets" campaign, are you in? Yes. I probably should have explained myself better in all honesty. Edited May 27, 2020 by Last Laff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Paint the town maroon said: our away support is average at best. It’s hardly a money spinner. 3,000 at both Falkirk games in 2014/15 for example says different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Did the £10m not include BT as well. We don’t know if Sky want the money back or not, but they are due it if they call the debt in and that means that the SPFL are in no position not to do exactly what Sky tell them to do. If we are expelled then I hope Sky do call it in. Fecks up a number of clubs and it gets Sky out of our game as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will-i-am-a-jambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Listening to podcast this has no chance. Stenhousemuir chairman basically saying lower clubs wont go for this and they think the top league will shoot it down as well. I love (lm being sarcastic here) how everyone seems to be shooting down the proposal but aren't coming up with any solutions themselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, jamboozy said: We all know who the non Hearts supporter is and it’s not me, I’m not trawling through all the negative posts you’ve submitted because you requested it😂go back to posting your negative shite, your good at it👍 Oooft now I’m not a hearts fan. stop talking shite and making up fairy stories lad. Don’t trawl, couldn’t give a **** either way if you don’t want to prove you’re talking utter shite. Cheerio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, S Form said: I have a strong feeling there’s an almighty **** up in store. The proposal will fail and then a host of clubs will say they have no chance of staging games closed doors, leaving the SPFL scrambling around trying to find a solution before the season is due to start. I think there will be huge pressure from Doncaster/the Board to persuade clubs to accept this. If it fails, the SPFL and its member clubs are then going to have two headaches : Hearts pursuing legal action and Hearts in the Championship with no prospect of playing football any time soon and the implications of that . Recon removes both of those headaches. Having said that I think AB has made enough enemies for this to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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