Riccarton3 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, EIEIO said: Indeed of all the words to leave out. If was a thumbs down. Appropriate cartoon stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: So, they are horrified by something they have control over as any return to the current set up requires clubs to vote it through... There must be a bit I am missing. Yup, as I said earlier, if the vote was structured that you need 75% to return it to the status quo after 2 years, then all it takes is 4 clubs in the 2nd tier to reject it (would imagine the same would happen in top tier.) But because there is a possibility, even if it is small, of 6 club relegation they are viewing it through that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Herbertson Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Craig, I think there is a working party headed up by Leanne Dempster that is putting plans together on how football can resume in Scotland. I think mainly set up by the SPFL with input from the SFA. Thanks. That doesn't fill me with confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: Sorry but now is the time we get budge to fcuk get someone who knows what there doing .Ann i thank you for saving us but nows the time to go shes made to many mistakes As someone who has been very critical of Budge and who does want her to leave, now is not the right time mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 This nonsense about 6 teams being relegated ,just shows up the tin pot mentality, wheres the ambition for their clubs to be the ones that wont be in a position of relegation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, williamgerrard said: Why ? Im sick to the back teeth of here costing us shes far to weak get someone in who wont mess about and demand what the fans want budge time is up she can leave with that other rat levein someone with benefactors willing to make sure we are still here for the next 5 years..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCW1976 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, williamgerrard said: Why ? Im sick to the back teeth of here costing us shes far to weak get someone in who wont mess about and demand what the fans want budge time is up she can leave with that other rat levein You sound like the kinda person who think’s Trump-type personalities are the solution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jamboross said: Yup. They are also completely ignoring the potential opportunity a temporary change to 3 leagues would give their clubs. Elgin finished 3rd in League Two, they would actually benefit from this by moving to just two promotions from the Premiership. With a bit of luck and ambition they, or any other club willing to make a go of it, say Edinburgh or Cove, could conceivably find themselves in the Premiership at the end of it. Instead we get the typical Scottish attitude of accentuating the negative. Pretty sure i heard someone on Sportsound last Saturday saying clubs like Elgin etc have no desire to be in the Premiership etc as the overheads are too much. Exactly why they don’t want Lowland/Highland League Team’s with ambition in the leagues. Edited May 27, 2020 by Heartsmad1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, ToadKiller Dog said: This nonsense about 6 teams being relegated ,just shows up the tin pot mentality, wheres the ambition for their clubs to be the ones that wont be in a position of relegation . They never had any intention of voting for reconstruction imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman9 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: Sorry but now is the time we get budge to fcuk get someone who knows what there doing .Ann i thank you for saving us but nows the time to go shes made to many mistakes Behave 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Riccarton3 said: If was a thumbs down. Appropriate cartoon stuff Thanks did not display when I originally read it ok now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: Why ? Im sick to the back teeth of here costing us shes far to weak get someone in who wont mess about and demand what the fans want budge time is up she can leave with that other rat levein You're not the sharpest tool in the box are you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgerrard Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, MCW1976 said: You sound like the kinda person who think’s Trump-type personalities are the solution! No i think we should never have been bottom so many mistakes by budge the huge one was not sacking levein and shes wont be taking serious by the spfl cause shes a joke most teams want a perm league reconstruction why she only after a temp measure i can see why other clubs think its all about trying to save us she needs to give and take from them to get anywhere shes shown her self up but cosying upto dumpster that should never happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Maybe we'll get a club statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, redjambo said: "Elgin lose their marbles"? sure I had to search for that! I am guessing you meant The Elgin Marbles. Sorry folks, continue. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 So when is the actual vote? Has a date/time been set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: No i think we should never have been bottom so many mistakes by budge the huge one was not sacking levein and shes wont be taking serious by the spfl cause shes a joke most teams want a perm league reconstruction why she only after a temp measure i can see why other clubs think its all about trying to save us she needs to give and take from them to get anywhere shes shown her self up but cosying upto dumpster that should never happen She is happy for permanent or temporary. Temporary had more support from the clubs which is why the proposal is aimed at that. If the clubs are willing to support permanent change it will happen. The proposal is just a proposal and amendments can clearly be made if it suits the majority across the leagues. Edited May 27, 2020 by Hungry hippo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 No proposal will ever get voted through because of attitudes like the Elgin one. We just want things to stay the same. They can enjoy their mothballs along with the rest of the wee teams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Hopefully Ann's proposal will be amended so it will come to pass. I can't really get my head round clubs who are unwilling to start the season in August , albeit behind closed doors, voting to **** up those who are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 It’s worth bearing in mind that neither Stenhousemuir or Elgin have seen the potential bill for voting No yet. They may have a dramatic change of heart once the implications of any decision are made clear!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Can’t believe some clubs still don’t get it... This isn’t just about saving Hearts, it’s about saving you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, David McCaig said: It’s worth bearing in mind that neither Stenhousemuir or Elgin have seen the potential bill for voting No yet. They may have a dramatic change of heart once the implications of any decision are made clear!! Sooner these clubs are in the gutter the better, if that means a no vote and court action then **** them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodfella Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: No i think we should never have been bottom so many mistakes by budge the huge one was not sacking levein and shes wont be taking serious by the spfl cause shes a joke most teams want a perm league reconstruction why she only after a temp measure i can see why other clubs think its all about trying to save us she needs to give and take from them to get anywhere shes shown her self up but cosying upto dumpster that should never happen Could do with some full stops there but I agree Budge deserves criticism and you’re perfectly within your right to do so. Budge leaving will be the last thing that happens after this crisis though and I’m comfortable with her fighting our corner ya the moment. She’s made mistakes, severe ones, but I think she has the best interests at Heart and will probably be a key reason we might remain financially Sound while others perish in this crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Captain Canada said: No proposal will ever get voted through because of attitudes like the Elgin one. We just want things to stay the same. They can enjoy their mothballs along with the rest of the wee teams! It's the self importance of these guys. Can't see past their ******* noses. I'm too busy for reconstruction talks. Look at me! Edited May 27, 2020 by Riccarton3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: sure I had to search for that! I am guessing you meant The Elgin Marbles. Sorry folks, continue. 😊 Lord Elgin ain't the most popular person in Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 If clubs have to be mothballed, where would that leave them once they want to come back? Bottom of the bottom league alphabetically sounds fair enough. If you can’t play then you can’t just sit in suspended animation until you feel like it ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) The irrelevant, wee teams whose sole raison d'etre is to scrape along hoping for a cup tie against one of the OF can, quite frank;y, **** off and die. There are relatively few clubs in Scotland who can be seen to be a decent sized business and it has always annoyed me that the clubs with 20 fans and a turnover of about £4 have such a big say in things. It's like Bob's Corner Shop having a say in how Tesco get to operate. Scottish Football has needed a cull for a long time and hopefully the current situation sees to it. The more of the diddy teams who die the better. Could not care a jot about their history, nor that their fans have no team to support. My position therefore remains unchanged - "**** the lot of them." Edited May 27, 2020 by skinnybob72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: Sorry but now is the time we get budge to fcuk get someone who knows what there doing .Ann i thank you for saving us but nows the time to go shes made to many mistakes Go and play in the traffic. Much nicer than I first typed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgerrard Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 This whole subject reminds me of brave heart everyone squabbling for scraps of longshanks table in this case spfl all me me me stuff the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, south morocco said: If clubs have to be mothballed, where would that leave them once they want to come back? Bottom of the bottom league alphabetically sounds fair enough. If you can’t play then you can’t just sit in suspended animation until you feel like it ffs. They will definitely need support from across the leagues allow mothballing. This where Neil Doncaster and the board will actually need to bother to find a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realzaragoza Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, kila said: Can’t believe some clubs still don’t get it... This isn’t just about saving Hearts, it’s about saving you! Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo66 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: Why ? Im sick to the back teeth of here costing us shes far to weak get someone in who wont mess about and demand what the fans want budge time is up she can leave with that other rat levein All I can say is thank God you have no position of authority anywhere in Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgerrard Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, XB52 said: Go and play in the traffic. Much nicer than I first typed. How about no . I am season ticket holder go to all home and away games and pledge funds aswell so i am entitled to my view so pipe down little man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Hungry hippo said: They will definitely need support from across the leagues allow mothballing. This where Neil Doncaster and the board will actually need to bother to find a solution. For starters you cant be mothballed in an active division. If 8 Championship sides say they cant play find 8 sides in lower divisions who can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said: They will definitely need support from across the leagues allow mothballing. This where Neil Doncaster and the board will actually need to bother to find a solution. They might have to consider reconstructing the leagues 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, south morocco said: If clubs have to be mothballed, where would that leave them once they want to come back? Bottom of the bottom league alphabetically sounds fair enough. If you can’t play then you can’t just sit in suspended animation until you feel like it ffs. Expelled from the league presumably. Without searching for the rules, I'm pretty sure you have to turn up to play your fixtures. Of course there are no fixtures yet. But if you aren't in the league, then you are out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: Sorry but now is the time we get budge to fcuk get someone who knows what there doing .Ann i thank you for saving us but nows the time to go shes made to many mistakes Holy fecking moly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgerrard Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jambo66 said: All I can say is thank God you have no position of authority anywhere in Scottish football. Shame that cause celtic and rangers would be getting hammered with fines every week for there singing pish just saying like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, south morocco said: If clubs have to be mothballed, where would that leave them once they want to come back? Bottom of the bottom league alphabetically sounds fair enough. If you can’t play then you can’t just sit in suspended animation until you feel like it ffs. Starting back in the lowest division sounds about right to me. However, that would mean that the punishment for those teams who say "Everything's fine. We're good to go." and then go into liquidation during the season, or are unable to fulfil their fixtures for any other reason, could be less than or equal to those who put their hands up at the start and said "We don't think we are going to make it through the season." That has to be addressed in a way that minimises the number of clubs who find themselves unable to fulfil fixtures part-way through the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: How about no . I am season ticket holder go to all home and away games and pledge funds aswell so i am entitled to my view so pipe down little man Hopefully, you will be reconsidering going to away games next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, williamgerrard said: No i think we should never have been bottom so many mistakes by budge the huge one was not sacking levein and shes wont be taking serious by the spfl cause shes a joke most teams want a perm league reconstruction why she only after a temp measure i can see why other clubs think its all about trying to save us she needs to give and take from them to get anywhere shes shown her self up but cosying upto dumpster that should never happen Sorry bud but that is an absolutely terrible post on so many levels. Then there is the content to consider. I am not usually one to be a member of the grammar police but that is truly shocking stuff right there. In answer to what I think may be a question . No I personally do not think this is the right time for a change at the top. We are at a pretty sensitive point in this particular adventure and I think she is the right person to see it through. I am a few years younger than AB and I will tell you I don't know if I would be up for doing what she has already done! In that respect I doff my cap to her... who would you rather see doing our negotiating ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Reconstruction is going to happen anyway because a lot of these smaller clubs won't be able to play games and the leagues will have to be juggled about by the time August comes and we are ready to restart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, ToadKiller Dog said: This nonsense about 6 teams being relegated ,just shows up the tin pot mentality, wheres the ambition for their clubs to be the ones that wont be in a position of relegation . Exactly. I would also say that even if they were relegated possibly those 6 clubs would have gotten the benefits of playing bigger clubs for 2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgerrard Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, redjambo said: Hopefully, you will be reconsidering going to away games next season. To right i will be boycotting away games unless some people want to have a go at that aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Reconstruction is going to happen anyway because a lot of these smaller clubs won't be able to play games and the leagues will have to be juggled about by the time August comes and we are ready to restart. Yep and as Ann Budge argues ,the 14-14-14 with teams of comparable size together makes it easier to do such if required . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 58 minutes ago, Berra than you said: Did we not do this for Dylan Bikey under cathro? Just so Hibs couldn't sign him I think it was to avoid paying one of his former clubs a compensation fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, Captain Canada said: No proposal will ever get voted through because of attitudes like the Elgin one. We just want things to stay the same. They can enjoy their mothballs along with the rest of the wee teams! Narrator: "The coronavirus had other ideas." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Is it time to end existences yet? 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Reconstruction is going to happen anyway because a lot of these smaller clubs won't be able to play games and the leagues will have to be juggled about by the time August comes and we are ready to restart. Could mean we might be playing in league with Airdrie and East Fife then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 The only good news I suppose is the BBC are so desperate for a negative headline in Scottish football they have had to seek out Elgin and Stenhousemuir to get one. Presumably if there were any big dissenters in the top flight and Championship they would also be bumping their gums - Watch this space I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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