manaliveits105 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Well said the DM it is a National embarrassment - surprised there’s not free deep fried Mars bar suppers every Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Look at the way you’re mocked....Look how they perceive you... You scrounging, whingeing jocks! Get off your knees!! Don't you think she should be made to tell us exactly how she intends to pay for her largesse? Or is it illegal to question the dear leader? Edited April 17, 2021 by Seymour M Hersh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Don't you think she should be made to tell us exactly how she intends to pay for her largesse? Or is it illegal to question the dear leader? Do you think that, that kind of headline is in keeping with what is expected from "serious" journalists and newspapers? All political leaders and parties should be questioned about policy, all of them, but a level of respect should also be shown to all of them by our media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 People wondering where all this cash is coming from. Maybe she intends spending Scotland's contribution to the WMDs Westminster is intent on spunking money on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Do you think that, that kind of headline is in keeping with what is expected from "serious" journalists and newspapers? All political leaders and parties should be questioned about policy, all of them, but a level of respect should also be shown to all of them by our media. It's the daily mail ffs. Serious and journalists are probably two words that shouldn't be linked to it. Why do nat become so sensitive when the dear leader is even lightly questioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 14/04/2021 at 07:25, XB52 said: If anyone was still in doubt about the anti SG bias shown by BBC Scotland, just watch the the 5 minute news this morning. When pubs opened for outdoor drinking in England the news was full of happy people delighted with being able to drink again; both punters and publicans. Today bbc Scotland starts with publicans moaning that lots of pubs won't be able to open. It's so blatant now That is due to different rules. Pubs in England are open. Pubs in Scotland are closed. Not in any way the BBC's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 57 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: It's the daily mail ffs. Serious and journalists are probably two words that shouldn't be linked to it. Why do nat become so sensitive when the dear leader is even lightly questioned. Jesus Christ... Can unionists not read? Serious was in quotes indicating what I think of the Mail. Why do unionsts become aggressively dismissive when the unionist leaning media that they link in posts are even lightly called out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Jesus Christ... Can unionists not read? Serious was in quotes indicating what I think of the Mail. Why do unionsts become aggressively dismissive when the unionist leaning media that they link in posts are even lightly called out? Meltdown alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: That is due to different rules. Pubs in England are open. Pubs in Scotland are closed. Not in any way the BBC's fault. The point that I think XB52 might be making is that our supposedly impartial BBC always seems to have a slant that denigrates whats happening here and ignores the, many miss steps and shortcomings of Westminster when making comparisons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: That is due to different rules. Pubs in England are open. Pubs in Scotland are closed. Not in any way the BBC's fault. Never let facts and reality get in the way of an SNP grievance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: It's the daily mail ffs. Serious and journalists are probably two words that shouldn't be linked to it. Why do nat become so sensitive when the dear leader is even lightly questioned. Nats, Unionists, Dear leader, etc etc 💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 16/04/2021 at 09:30, Dazo said: So have I got this right, no referendum on rejoining the EU for an independent Scotland ? 😂 Yes it appears to be the case. 23 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said: So, free bikes, laptops, lunches and bus travel for youngsters? No income tax rises for 5 years and we'll throw in a 4 day week. Anyone with even an ounce of common sense or intelligence would realise that is unadulterated, student union garbage. Completely undeliverable and unaffordable, even with the 14% Barnett hike she is banking on receiving. The same largesse that she wants to turn her back on with separation. The woman is deranged. 👍 23 hours ago, coconut doug said: I appreciate the attempt to engage properly. I'm also very surprised at your staunch attempt to defend the SNP. Nobody though is suggesting that they are deliberately funding a paedohile supporting organisation as far as i can see. Your point about abuses in other countries is salient too but it is also true that the words used in the charter speak for themselves so it seems best if Margaret Lynch speaks for herself as well. https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/what-i-really-said-at-the-alba-party-conference-margaret-lynch-3202489 The links LGBT Scotland had to convicted paedophiles are local to Edinburgh and only 12 years old. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/oct/29/courts-abuse-paedophile-ring-scotland It seems to me that if you wanted access to adolescents who may be experiencing difficulties and vulnerabilities then joining LGBT groups would be a good way to do that. LGBT Scotland were not too pleased either it seems. They said "LGBT Youth Scotland abhors any abuse of children and young people's rights. It is with a particular sense of betrayal of our organisational purpose and values that we learned of the crimes committed by James Rennie, and we are utterly appalled by his abuse and exploitation of children." Why would we not take that statement at face value? Nevertheless they were infiltrated. Absolutely nobody is saying that "gays are paedophiles" including Wings. On your other point re PIE you are totaly correct. It was not a vehicle for Labour. It was however supported by Patricia Hewitt (future cabinet minister) and others who advocated for a reduction in the age of consent to 10. As for your assertion that gay people are underrepresented as paedophiles, then i can say i have no way of knowing. Presumably you have some research findings to prove your point. I am surprised though to find females are higher than gay men in this category. Do you think this might be because many of the females might be biological males? Even more so when you consider that females cant join the priesthood. Yes maybe no one is saying " gays are paedophiles" but they are making a hell of a lot of inference that they are. Just in case you dont know most sexual abuse of children occurs in the " safety" of their family home. Therefore the abusers are mainly in fact mostly fathers. uncles, brothers etc . A massively high percentage. Most of those identity as heterosexual. Yes abuse of children by people who identify as gay does happen but certainly not on the scale perpetuated by homophobes. The Jamie Rennie scandal was disgusting. He inveigled his way into straight friends lives to sexually abuse their children. He passed vetting procedures as most clever pedophiles are able to do. The LGBT have apologized for employing him. What more could they do ? I assume they have tightened up all their proceedures since then. The point of all of this was again by that vile SNP woman was to again just stir up intolerance with dangerous stereotypes. Your following comment says a lot about your view really " I am surprised though to find females are higher than gay men in this category. Do you think this might be because many of the females might be biological males? Wheres your evidence for that ? Or you just assuming ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, Seymour M Hersh said: Meltdown alert. Mate I'm in the garden sitting in the sun drinking a beer after a "run". Apart from the heat from the sun I'm as far from melting down as could be. Nice use of emoji though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Mate I'm in the garden sitting in the sun drinking a beer after a "run". Apart from the heat from the sun I'm as far from melting down as could be. Nice use of emoji though. Drinking at this time of day???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Mate I'm in the garden sitting in the sun drinking a beer after a "run". Apart from the heat from the sun I'm as far from melting down as could be. Nice use of emoji though. Just laughing at you mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, JamesM48 said: Drinking at this time of day???????????? James, we had builders in the house doing renovations this past 7 weeks... We are slowly decompressing after all the stress... Next house will be a new build Only one can then off for a shower and a stroll to Pittencrief Park and the butcher for some BBQ meat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Just laughing at you mate. Likewise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Konrad von Carstein said: James, we had builders in the house doing renovations this past 7 weeks... We are slowly decompressing after all the stress... Next house will be a new build Only one can then off for a shower and a stroll to Pittencrief Park and the butcher for some BBQ meat... You really didnt need to explain. Im just jealous. Oh I love Pittencrief park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Likewise Enjoy your beer although I'm not sure the dear leader would agree with you drinking alcohol. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 How does any Scottish Government pay for anything? We can't borrow, so it either comes from the very limited tax powers we have, or from moving block grant funds from elsewhere. Not like Westminster that can borrow trillions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: You really didnt need to explain. Im just jealous. Oh I love Pittencrief park Didn't want you thinking I was an uncouth jakeball (or even a couth one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Enjoy your beer although I'm not sure the dear leader would agree with you drinking alcohol. 😀 She can get in the bin with that ... Oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Didn't want you thinking I was an uncouth jakeball (or even a couth one) Thats fine i know a few uncouth jakeballs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 58 minutes ago, Cade said: How does any Scottish Government pay for anything? We can't borrow, so it either comes from the very limited tax powers we have, or from moving block grant funds from elsewhere. Not like Westminster that can borrow trillions. Have they declared what they're using the extra £20m they received from Westminster for taxi driver grants yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: That is due to different rules. Pubs in England are open. Pubs in Scotland are closed. Not in any way the BBC's fault. What the hell are you on about. The point was that Scotland is opening pubs for outdoor drinking, exactly the same as England has already done. It was seen as great news for England but bad news for Scotland, at least as far as BBC Scotland was concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, Nunya Business said: Have they declared what they're using the extra £20m they received from Westminster for taxi driver grants yet? Wheesht for indy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Never let facts and reality get in the way of an SNP grievance. Never let the fact that unionists can't read posts to get in the way of ignoring the reality of the biased media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Cade said: How does any Scottish Government pay for anything? We can't borrow, so it either comes from the very limited tax powers we have, or from moving block grant funds from elsewhere. Not like Westminster that can borrow trillions. I'm all for Scotland trialling full fiscal autonomy. Spend what it raises, with borrowing powers. I'll bet Sturgeon wouldn't touch it with a bargepole though. Watch the freebies disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, XB52 said: Never let the fact that unionists can't read posts to get in the way of ignoring the reality of the biased media Never let the fact that rabid Nats can't watch the BBC without experiencing some delusional existential rage get in the way of a good whinge either. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Never let the fact that rabid Nats can't watch the BBC without experiencing some delusional existential rage get in the way of a good whinge either. 👍 I'll try again. Pubs open in England, good. Pubs open in Scotland, bad. You honestly can't see an issue with that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: I'm all for Scotland trialling full fiscal autonomy. Spend what it raises, with borrowing powers. I'll bet Sturgeon wouldn't touch it with a bargepole though. Watch the freebies disappear. SNP have been asking for full fiscal autonomy for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, XB52 said: I'll try again. Pubs open in England, good. Pubs open in Scotland, bad. You honestly can't see an issue with that?? You can try all you like, buddy. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, XB52 said: SNP have been asking for full fiscal autonomy for years They backed down from it back in 2015 iirc. It should be put to her; keep what you raise in return for the end of the block grant. They would still pay a share of defence costs which, to be honest, would be the case even if Scotland did separate, and a share of debt interest. In my opinion, she would run a mile from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Perhaps XB52 can explain where the missing £20m has gone. He seems pretty clued up on why the SNP should get fiscal autonomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: You can try all you like, buddy. 👍 Thought so, not got a clue. Well actually that's not true as of course you can see the obvious bias but refuse to. Sad but so typical. I really worry for you lot after independence. Meanwhile I'll not waste any more time trying to get an honest reply to my question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Nunya Business said: Perhaps XB52 can explain where the missing £20m has gone. He seems pretty clued up on why the SNP should get fiscal autonomy. We get it, you're a taxi driver so have an axe to bear. And I have never said they should get full fiscal autonomy; only that they have been calling for it. We will of course have full fiscal autonomy after independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: They backed down from it back in 2015 iirc. It should be put to her; keep what you raise in return for the end of the block grant. They would still pay a share of defence costs which, to be honest, would be the case even if Scotland did separate, and a share of debt interest. In my opinion, she would run a mile from it. We want independence which will mean we have full fiscal autonomy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 No happening though ay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, XB52 said: Thought so, not got a clue. Well actually that's not true as of course you can see the obvious bias but refuse to. Sad but so typical. I really worry for you lot after independence. Meanwhile I'll not waste any more time trying to get an honest reply to my question "You lot", Spoken like a true bigot. The defence rests, M'lud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, XB52 said: We get it, you're a taxi driver so have an axe to bear. And I have never said they should get full fiscal autonomy; only that they have been calling for it. We will of course have full fiscal autonomy after independence. Wrong, I'm not a taxi driver. I'm just someone who would like to know where that money has gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: "You lot", Spoken like a true bigot. The defence rests, M'lud. Dearie me guv, mon now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 43 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: "You lot", Spoken like a true bigot. The defence rests, M'lud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, Smithee said: Dearie me guv, mon now He can't answer a simple question so that makes me a bigot😁😁😁😁. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, XB52 said: Never let the fact that unionists can't read posts to get in the way of ignoring the reality of the biased media Well if you say so buddy boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, XB52 said: We want independence which will mean we have full fiscal autonomy For any future referendums, always hate-filled and divisive as we know, it should require 2 votes. First vote, question set by the electoral commission, asks whether negotiations should be opened with EU, UK, whoever. The 2nd vote ratifies or not, the exact terms on which we would cease partnership. No Santa Wish Lists about currency, costs etc. That's democratic and the people decide. You agree?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Smithee said: Dearie me guv, mon now It's been a long day, Schmitt. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 We need more bigots imo . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, XB52 said: He can't answer a simple question so that makes me a bigot😁😁😁😁. I could easily answer any question that you may care to ask. The trouble is: a) can I be arsed on such a busy day? b) Can I can couch my answer in such terms that my inquisitor may have a chance of understanding without risk of an aneurysm. I wouldn't want that on my concience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeffros Furios said: We need more bigots imo . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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