Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Francis Albert]

1 minute ago, Robbofan99 said:

and do you know we have effectively been out of lockdown since July 15th and there has been only 12 deaths. ?

Cue "12 too many"

[1874robbo]

2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

I’m no being telt what to do.

It’s no fair.

😭😭😭😭😭😭

Maybe and here’s a radical thought, maybe it’s just that people can see through this pish and are questioning a lot of it now.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

1 minute ago, 1874robbo said:

Maybe and here’s a radical thought, maybe it’s just that people can see through this pish and are questioning a lot of it now.

 

What you mean you don't believe the virus can do a body count and can tell the time?

[Samuel Camazzola]

13 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Makes perfect sense 

 

you won’t be having social contact with a tradesman

Do you ever question some of the waffle that comes out of the SG or do you just sit and nod along to everything spout out? 

[coconut doug]

2 minutes ago, Robbofan99 said:

and do you know we have effectively been out of lockdown since July 15th and there has been only 12 deaths. ?

 

Lockdown was released gradually and people gradually started going back to the workplace instead of working from home. The holiday industry expanded, then schools opened then colleges and unis.Then the infection rate went up. Next - more people die. Unless we do something about it.

[1874robbo]

1 minute ago, Ron Burgundy said:

What you mean you don't believe the virus can do a body count and can tell the time?

Listen I know it’s a clever virus and will be waiting outside the pubs at 22.01 for any stragglers!!

then if you’re in a group of 6 it’ll float right by you but If the 7 dwarfs are out and about then they’re fecked!!!!

its a clever virus this Covid!!!

 

[doctor jambo]

15 minutes ago, coconut doug said:

 

Do you understand that there low number of deaths in the last 3 months is a consequence of us having locked down?

Maybe i should also point out that any impending restrictions will be imposed to reduce the future levels of infection and our ability to deal with it. We know lockdown works so why would anybody go out of their way to defy the instructions and risk the well-being of fellow humans.

One death per week for the last few months.

 

 

this virus has been here since late last year.

we don’t know lockdown works, because we dint know what would have happened if we didn’t do it- there is no  comparator.

its guess work .

 

[AlimOzturk]

[graygo]

1 hour ago, mrmarkus1981 said:

I've bought my Mum a cheap car as hers was on its last legs, so she can drive 12 miles to her work and back every day.

 

I'm driving her through to Stirling tomorrow to someone else's house to collects the keys.

 

I'll be locked up by lunch time with all these rule breaks

 

 

The legislation is not being passed till Thursday, you're fine for tomorrow. 👍

Edited September 22, 2020 by graygo

[doctor jambo]

Just now, coconut doug said:

 

Lockdown was released gradually and people gradually started going back to the workplace instead of working from home. The holiday industry expanded, then schools opened then colleges and unis.Then the infection rate went up. Next - more people die. Unless we do something about it.

Nobody extra has died,

and a Covid death is any within 28 days of a diagnosis of Covid,

so catch Covid , recover, get run over a month later and BING Covid death

[Samuel Camazzola]

1 minute ago, AlimOzturk said:

😄

[1874robbo]

1 minute ago, coconut doug said:

 

Lockdown was released gradually and people gradually started going back to the workplace instead of working from home. The holiday industry expanded, then schools opened then colleges and unis.Then the infection rate went up. Next - more people die. Unless we do something about it.

Brainwashed!!

[1874robbo]

1 minute ago, graygo said:

 

The legislation is not being passed till Friday, you're fine for tomorrow. 👍

Yeh Covid knows not to attack everyone until Friday.

its a clever virus.

[Robbofan99]

1 minute ago, 1874robbo said:

Brainwashed!!

and stupid 

[Robbofan99]

4 minutes ago, doctor jambo said:

One death per week for the last few months.

 

 

this virus has been here since late last year.

we don’t know lockdown works, because we dint know what would have happened if we didn’t do it- there is no  comparator.

its guess work .

 

well said again

[doctor jambo]

This all smacks of old fashioned Scottish puritanism

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, jonesy said:

I emailed my Lothian list MSPs regarding my concerns. The first reply was from the Tory who said that they will continue to support measures.

Not at all surprised. 

[doctor jambo]

And I’ll throw it out there - I will NOT be taking any vaccine that I do not believe to have been rigorously tested and safe.

 

[Jambo 4 Ever]

Just now, doctor jambo said:

And I’ll throw it out there - I will NOT be taking any vaccine that I do not believe to have been rigorously tested and safe.

 

And again I repeat anyone encouraging others not to do what’s best for public health is deeply irresponsible behaviour 

[AlimOzturk]

[1874robbo]

Just now, Jambo 4 Ever said:

And again I repeat anyone encouraging others not to do what’s best for public health is deeply irresponsible behaviour 

Why should he take something that he feels hasn’t been tested properly?

taking a vaccine is a choice.

[Dennis Reynolds]

2 minutes ago, doctor jambo said:

And I’ll throw it out there - I will NOT be taking any vaccine that I do not believe to have been rigorously tested and safe.

 

 

What constitutes rigorously tested and safe, to you?

[Francis Albert]

3 minutes ago, doctor jambo said:

One death per week for the last few months.

 

 

this virus has been here since late last year.

we don’t know lockdown works, because we dint know what would have happened if we didn’t do it- there is no  comparator.

its guess work .

 

Sweden. No lockdown. Similar or slightly better outcome so far. No sign yet of a second wave so far.

 

Lock down is in the short term at least a no risk option for the government. If things go better than the worst case scenarios the new measures are based on (which is almost certain to be the case if the scenario is worst case) then the new measures have worked. 

What we need tonight is a clear explanation of what the test will be for relaxing existing and new measures and getting back to normal. We won't get it.

[DB-14]

28 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Makes perfect sense 

 

you won’t be having social contact with a tradesman

 

You genuinely are just a weird cheerleader who just agrees with everything Sturgeon says.

 

Absolute crackpot with not a single real pal. NAP.

[The Internet]

Inordinate amount of shite being posted now like. 

[GinRummy]

3 minutes ago, jonesy said:

That's not how porn works!

😂

[whodanny]

29 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

I genuinely think that if 'in the closet' Krankie and her cronies came out today and said that as from next week you can only hop in the street to get about you would see people next week hopping along to the shops.

 

Sad, pathetic and truly bizzare how any free thinking human is still not questioning this load of complete and utter bollocks.

 

Drones and sheep the ****ing lot of them. This is now past the stage of even being excusable.

 

We are being treated like children and controlled like a chained up dog outside a shop eagerly awaiting the return of their master. Anyone going along with this shite IS THE PROBLEM.

 

Protecting us they say! Give me a ****ing break, they are ****ing destroying us.

 

 

Alright Mr fecking expert, you greet about Mrs Budge, you clearly hate Hearts, you think our new stand is a complete waste of money and now you're telling us the Scottish Government have it all wrong, and have been from the start. But NOT ONCE ! NOT F'ING ONCE! Have YOU offered up a solution. I don't like this situation any more than you do, but I don't pretend to offer any kind of solution, because I just don't know. You on the other hand come on with your smug "I know best" posts and say absolutely FECK ALL !. Just away back to dotnet and shut the feck up on here. And to think I took you off ignore. FTH !

[Francis Albert]

2 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

Inordinate amount of shite being posted now like. 

Ok but no need to go out of your way to substantiate the claim. What does your post add exactly?

[1874robbo]

1 minute ago, whodanny said:

Alright Mr fecking expert, you greet about Mrs Budge, you clearly hate Hearts, you think our new stand is a complete waste of money and now you're telling us the Scottish Government have it all wrong, and have been from the start. But NOT ONCE ! NOT F'ING ONCE! Have YOU offered up a solution. I don't like this situation any more than you do, but I don't pretend to offer any kind of solution, because I just don't know. You on the other hand come on with your smug "I know best" posts and say absolutely FECK ALL !. Just away back to dotnet and shut the feck up on here. And to think I took you off ignore. FTH !

I think his post was decent 

[The Internet]

Just now, Francis Albert said:

Ok but no need to go out of your way to substantiate the claim. What does your post add exactly?

 

Yeah good point, I'll stop. 

[graygo]

15 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

Yeh Covid knows not to attack everyone until Friday.

its a clever virus.

I think I might have that wrong and it's actually Thursday, can someone check with the virus please?

[The Real Maroonblood]

23 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

Maybe and here’s a radical thought, maybe it’s just that people can see through this pish and are questioning a lot of it now.

 

Quite possibly.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

If anyone wants an answer as to when we will be able to truly control and live with the virus then do not ask a virologist, ask a politician.

[King prawn]

[graygo]

31 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the replies, just home so have had a chance to look for myself and it's actually Thursday although NS would like us to observe it from tomorrow. No chance.

 

Bollocks, that's for the hospitality restrictions and it's Friday. ☹️

Edited September 22, 2020 by graygo

[whodanny]

2 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

I think his post was decent 

It said absolutely nothing, just empty gripes. I meet so many folk with the same attitude, when I ask them what we should be doing, all I get is shrugs and words to the effect that it's "no up Tae me mate" they all just want to carry on as before. That is just not an option. I wish I had an answer, but I don't. But I know that living as normal just now won't solve the problem.

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, King prawn said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if they bring forward the ko time by 15 minutes.

[Weakened Offender]

1 hour ago, doctor jambo said:

Why should she?

How much of childhood should be stolen?

THey have lost 6 months, already, and are about to miss more.

She will be fine, of that I am sure.

but the consequences of this will be felt for years by the vulnerable

 

They lost 3 months max. 

 

Children attending school is a priority. 

 

Stop posting utter shite. 

[redjambo]

48 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

It’s difficult to read that all that well but that doesn’t look like that measure has been successful. The upward trend looks to be continue. 
 

That graph makes me question the effectiveness of the measure. 

 

I assume the numbers are infection rates?

 

The super duper spike would imagine a specific issue but that’s an upward trend.

 

Yes, sorry, it is the total number of infections on a per-day basis. I should have specified that.

 

I agree with your conclusion. The measures in Glasgow haven't been successful. I still think the key is in enforcing the current restrictions, not adding more restrictions which the non-conformists will probably ignore anyway. If increasing numbers of folk ignore the restrictions, you can have all the restrictions in the world and you aren't going to get anywhere.

 

The large spike was today's figure. It will be interesting to see how Glasgow pans out in the week ahead.

[i8hibsh]

11 minutes ago, whodanny said:

Alright Mr fecking expert, you greet about Mrs Budge, you clearly hate Hearts, you think our new stand is a complete waste of money and now you're telling us the Scottish Government have it all wrong, and have been from the start. But NOT ONCE ! NOT F'ING ONCE! Have YOU offered up a solution. I don't like this situation any more than you do, but I don't pretend to offer any kind of solution, because I just don't know. You on the other hand come on with your smug "I know best" posts and say absolutely FECK ALL !. Just away back to dotnet and shut the feck up on here. And to think I took you off ignore. FTH 

 

I can tell you that I am as much as an 'expert' on COVID 19 than you, everyone else on here and the likes of that repugnant shit weasel 'professor' Jason Leitch. He is by far superior to me however on subjects like dentistry tho.

 

[Howdy Doody Jambo]

Bonkers that's all folks 

[I P Knightley]

1 hour ago, jonesy said:

 

Type it up. Print it out. Shove it up yer hoop.

 

1 hour ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

How mature 

 

Yeah, but actually very funny.

 

37 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

I genuinely think that if 'in the closet' Krankie and her cronies came out today and said that as from next week you can only hop in the street to get about you would see people next week hopping along to the shops.

 

Sad, pathetic and truly bizzare how any free thinking human is still not questioning this load of complete and utter bollocks.

 

Drones and sheep the ****ing lot of them. This is now past the stage of even being excusable.

 

We are being treated like children and controlled like a chained up dog outside a shop eagerly awaiting the return of their master. Anyone going along with this shite IS THE PROBLEM.

 

Protecting us they say! Give me a ****ing break, they are ****ing destroying us.

 

 

Calm, measured and subtly nuanced, as ever! 

 

The problem (as I see it) is that the lack of firm leadership has largely divided us into two camps. On one hand, there are those who are cautious and will reason that there has to be some form of thinking behind the guidance and it's better to be safe than sorry. On the other hand, there are those who distrust government and need to be shown stronger evidence and better reasoning. 

 

Although I'm highly sceptical of almost everyone in government, I put myself more in the former camp but readily accept that I'm not being horrendously affected by the last few changes in guidance. I understand the science/logic of face coverings; I manage to get my work done at home and can cycle to the office without putting myself or others at risk of virus transfer; the kids are back at school/uni; by and large, I don't like the people who want to meet me in the pub; I'm not to bothered about visiting people in their houses (I can cope with a Zoom call or a phone call to keep in touch) and I don't have any elderly relatives nearby who I'd be visiting.

 

So it's easy for me to say to others, "just get on with it - what harm's it doing?" EXCEPT for the lack of transparency and reasoning and for knowing that adherence to the guidelines will hit others much harder than me with the likely consequence of harm to mental health. That would be when I'd make a choice to ignore the guidelines, if there was a genuine risk of mental health issues. I wouldn't advocate picking and choosing the guidelines simply based on political preferences.

[Robbofan99]

1 minute ago, I P Knightley said:

Although I'm highly sceptical of almost everyone in government, I put myself more in the former camp but readily accept that I'm not being horrendously affected by the last few changes in guidance.

You hit the nail on the head. Some people will only be mildly inconvenienced by the new measures whereas others will be deeply affected in whatever way. 

[Robbofan99]

[graygo]

11 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Bollocks, that's for the hospitality restrictions and it's Friday. ☹️

 

This is bloody confusing.

 

People across Scotland are being advised not to visit other households indoors from Wednesday 23 September onwards. This will become law from Friday.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-53166816

[I P Knightley]

30 minutes ago, doctor jambo said:

And I’ll throw it out there - I will NOT be taking any vaccine that I do not believe to have been rigorously tested and safe.

 

I'm with you on that one but will listen to the experts about whether it's tested and safe. Not Bozo, not Trump, not Sturgeon but proper clever people who specialise in the field. 

 

If I find a reputable medical person, I'll let you know  

[Jambo 4 Ever]

12 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

They lost 3 months max. 

 

Children attending school is a priority. 

 

Stop posting utter shite. 

Exactly 

There are some right moaners on here 

[whodanny]

15 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

I can tell you that I am as much as an 'expert' on COVID 19 than you, everyone else on here and the likes of that repugnant shit weasel 'professor' Jason Leitch. He is by far superior to me however on subjects like dentistry tho.

 

So what have you said in that post ? I mean really ? NOTHING. You can moan and greet all you want, but it's totally non constructive. Chill the feck out and accept that life is going to be a lot different for some time. I sincerely hope that neither you or any of your loved ones succumbs to the virus, but sadly that's the reality for too many. I have parents both in their late eighties, I know they may not have many years left with us, but I would like to treasure what time they have left with us. So I will do what I can to protect them. Try thinking that way. IE not about yourself, but about others HHGH.

Edited September 22, 2020 by whodanny

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

Absolutely odds on that in week’s time, Johnson or Hancock will about turn and go ‘er, actually, households shouldn’t mix.’

 

I don’t think there’s a single decision they’ve taken through this debacle that hasn’t needed changed or abandoned within a fortnight. Absolute frauds.

 

When (if) we return to normal some serious questions need to be asked about what our politicians are qualified for. Hancock seems as suitable for the health brief as a three year old. What the **** are these people doing in these jobs?

[Nucky Thompson]

The Welsh government has not ruled out making vaccines mandatory when they become available.

FFS that's mental 

I would get one if it became available, but you can't force people