Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Taffin]

56 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

It 

 

They've scrapped free testing too early IMO. I had covid during the last fortnight and had none of the 'traditional symptoms' and a good few of the ones announced yesterday. If I hadn't had to test to visit a relative in hospital I'd have been none the wiser and could potentially have made the situation for them much worse.

I'd have gone to work with the blocked nose and sore head I had and have been to work feeling worse over the years.

 

I heard on the radio it's now being framed as a 'skivers charter' as people are taking time off and not testing as they're not prepared to pay for it. They also mentioned a lack of availability of tests to buy.

 

I think they probably have too. I just think it's a bit of a cop out to present it as now not having it as an option and being left with stay at home or kill the elderly. Whether I had to or not, I'd be testing before visiting an elderly relative and more than happy to pay a couple of quid for peace of mind. A lack of availability is of course an issue, but seeing them stacked high at my local Tesco suggests it's only in pockets...but does need sorted out.

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 hours ago, Taffin said:

 

Or they could pay £2 for a test. It's also an option.

0r £20 a packet . Although some leaders would convince us they were “ free “ nothing is “ free” . Vulnerable and elderly still have access to testing for free . The rest of us should only be testing if and when we actually feel quite ill . Or just stay at home until they feel better . Need to get on with life and can’t be hypochondriacs sponsored by the state 

[SuperstarSteve]

I’ve no idea if they would be included in case numbers but there is a flaw on the government website that allows you to download a reference number to send your boss after a positive result. You can get the reference without having actually tested positive though. 

[Dazo]

1 minute ago, SuperstarSteve said:

I’ve no idea if they would be included in case numbers but there is a flaw on the government website that allows you to download a reference number to send your boss after a positive result. You can get the reference without having actually tested positive though. 

Why would you want to do that ? 

[SuperstarSteve]

Just now, Dazo said:

Why would you want to do that ? 

I wouldn’t but You get chancers.

 

My mate had got a week off fully paid because he was in close contact to his mrs who tested positive. He then chanced his luck 3 weeks later saying he has tested positive, only this time his boss asked for a reference which caught him off guard. If it wasn’t for the government website bailing him out with a reference number he would’ve had to come clean and tell his boss he lied. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

6 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said:

But this scrapping of free testing during a time that cases are rising through the roof, several hospitals at critical and having to put off other treatments, you just have to look at airports today that's utterly disgusting, to turn you're back on the people that helped us through the pandemic like GP, NHS etc and just to say **** it get on with it after the work they done for the country the last two years, you're now putting family's at risk GPs will be seeing patients that no longer need to test, because simply you don't want to do it anymore, you're going to allow it to rip good luck pal.

 

That's not all down to covid, a large part of the problem, quite possibly most of the problem is that the Airports and the Airlines sacked a lot of staff at the start of the pandemic, and have now discovered that they don't have enough staff to cope with the increased demand now.

 

Many of the airports currently have a massive recruitment drive for every position, baggage handlers, gate controllers, dispatchers etc etc etc, airlines also are short of pilots, first officers, cabin crew etc etc, the situation at Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester, Edinburgh and many more airports is more down to management sacking staff at the start of the pandemic rather than because of covid infections right now.

 

Sure covid is playing a part and making the situation much worse, but it's not the only reason why you are seeing long queues at our airports right now, which imo were always going to happen as there was simply not enough staff to start with.

Pretty much everyone in the industry knew the shit was going to hit the fan, once everything opened up again and flights returned back to near enough normal, and that's exactly what's happened.

 

[Fxxx the SPFL]

21 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

That's not all down to covid, a large part of the problem, quite possibly most of the problem is that the Airports and the Airlines sacked a lot of staff at the start of the pandemic, and have now discovered that they don't have enough staff to cope with the increased demand now.

 

Many of the airports currently have a massive recruitment drive for every position, baggage handlers, gate controllers, dispatchers etc etc etc, airlines also are short of pilots, first officers, cabin crew etc etc, the situation at Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester, Edinburgh and many more airports is more down to management sacking staff at the start of the pandemic rather than because of covid infections right now.

 

Sure covid is playing a part and making the situation much worse, but it's not the only reason why you are seeing long queues at our airports right now, which imo were always going to happen as there was simply not enough staff to start with.

Pretty much everyone in the industry knew the shit was going to hit the fan, once everything opened up again and flights returned back to near enough normal, and that's exactly what's happened.

 

correct and also part of the problem with the Hospitals is staff having to isolate because they tested positive as in my daughters case she had no symptoms so she in reality could be at work and wanted too even although she is paid when off. we will just have to live with it and at some point stop all the testing and get on with life. If you are ill you don't go to work same as pre Covid all imo of course

[Jambo-Jimbo]

9 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

correct and also part of the problem with the Hospitals is staff having to isolate because they tested positive as in my daughters case she had no symptoms so she in reality could be at work and wanted too even although she is paid when off. we will just have to live with it and at some point stop all the testing and get on with life. If you are ill you don't go to work same as pre Covid all imo of course

 

Same happened on Mrs JJ's ward and I posted about it, that 3 nurses had to isolate for 10 days (as it was at the time) none of them had covid (and none of them developed covid either) because other family members had tested positive, and all 3 were overlapping with each other.

You will know as well as I do, when you are working right on the limit staff wise, to lose one or two staff members has a massive effect on the remaining staff.

[Ray Gin]

1 hour ago, **** the SPFL said:

correct and also part of the problem with the Hospitals is staff having to isolate because they tested positive as in my daughters case she had no symptoms so she in reality could be at work and wanted too even although she is paid when off. we will just have to live with it and at some point stop all the testing and get on with life. If you are ill you don't go to work same as pre Covid all imo of course

 

Can you not think of a reason why it might not be a good idea for a covid positive nurse to be working in a hospital surrounded by lots of vulnerable patients, even if they themselves feel fine?

[Boab]

8 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Can you not think of a reason why it might not be a good idea for a covid positive nurse to be working in a hospital surrounded by lots of vulnerable patients, even if they themselves feel fine?

I can !

It's batshit mental !

Working while positive that is !

Edited April 5, 2022 by Boab

[Fxxx the SPFL]

1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Can you not think of a reason why it might not be a good idea for a covid positive nurse to be working in a hospital surrounded by lots of vulnerable patients, even if they themselves feel fine?

put them in the wards were Covid patients are already in.  50% of punters in Hospital with Covid are in for other reasons and only tested positive on day of admission.

[vegas-voss]

I done a test Saturday morning before I went to the cinema all clear.Went to work at night and tested positive so had to come home.Registered it and it says I have probably been infected for 2 days previous to the test.So despite thinking I was doing right going to the cinema with no symptoms and done a test I have most probably had it and now passed it on to others.

 

My symptoms are mild though pretty much like a cold but my wife has it as well and hers is more like the flu.

[Dazo]

1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Can you not think of a reason why it might not be a good idea for a covid positive nurse to be working in a hospital surrounded by lots of vulnerable patients, even if they themselves feel fine?

Not every patient in hospital is vulnerable ffs. They could easily have staff who feel fine working with non vulnerable covid positive patients. 

[Ray Gin]

6 minutes ago, Dazo said:

Not every patient in hospital is vulnerable ffs. They could easily have staff who feel fine working with non vulnerable covid positive patients. 

 

Easily, aye? I'd imagine it would be a logistical nightmare.

 

[Dazo]

Just now, Ray Gin said:

 

Easily, aye? I'd imagine it would be a logistical nightmare.

 

Compared to having to replace all the staff on the sick ? Yeah I’d say easily. Loads of wards won’t be so specialised that staff couldn’t be moved about. 

[Ray Gin]

6 minutes ago, Dazo said:

Compared to having to replace all the staff on the sick ? Yeah I’d say easily. Loads of wards won’t be so specialised that staff couldn’t be moved about. 

 

For a start, you'd need to keep all the Covid positive staff away from all the Covid negative staff. No sharing staff rooms/changing areas etc. That would be a nightmare to implement in itself.

 

[GBJambo]

2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

For a start, you'd need to keep all the Covid positive staff away from all the Covid negative staff. No sharing staff rooms/changing areas etc. That would be a nightmare to implement in itself.

 

They have had 2 years to figure this out 

[Dazo]

3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

For a start, you'd need to keep all the Covid positive staff away from all the Covid negative staff. No sharing staff rooms/changing areas etc. That would be a nightmare to implement in itself.

 

You have covid negative staff mixing with positive patients without issue so it’s possible. 

[vegas-voss]

19 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Ahh this thread is still going, with pretty much the same arguments. 
 

On a personal level the last few months COVID has really hit home to me last few months. 
 

I’ve seen my family go through it to very varying extents. My old boy was in hospital and I never thought, I would see him again. Whereas, my mother (the most vulnerable category you can get) no issues. 
 

Seen the kids get it and not be bothered, thankfully. Whilst, the amount of people I know who have picked up is phenomal. There is no rhyme or reason how impacts people. 
 

COVID has/will change the way we live our life’s forever and I think people who are wanting ‘no covid’ in our life’s will be dissapointed. 
 

Part of me has always felt we were all going to get it at sone point. Thankfully, vaccines limit the damage it can do and we are able to return to ‘normal’ best we can. 
 

Take care folks, when your time comes👍

Good post.You nailed it absolutely no rhyme or reason to how it effects folk.

[Ray Gin]

6 minutes ago, Dazo said:

You have covid negative staff mixing with positive patients without issue so it’s possible. 

 

Somewhat different scenario when they're on their lunch breaks and getting changed to start their shift/go home though, isn't it? They need take all their safety gear off.

[Taffin]

We either need to pay an awful lot more out of the public purse to have a sufficient roster of NHS staff to cover isolation; accept reduction in service, or let people who are fit and healthy go back to work but risks others.

 

Alternatively we could try something more complex but ticks more boxes. Would it be hard? Yes, but if you don't like any of the initial options then I don't see what options are left.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

42 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Somewhat different scenario when they're on their lunch breaks and getting changed to start their shift/go home though, isn't it? They need take all their safety gear off.

 

Good one, breaks WTF are those?

 

I'll tell Mrs JJ that joe public think they get lunch breaks, she'll piss herself laughing at that......not.

 

Seriously though, how can you go for a break when you are short staffed in the first place, whose going to look after the patients?

 

[Taffin]

8 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Good one, breaks WTF are those?

 

I'll tell Mrs JJ that joe public think they get lunch breaks, she'll piss herself laughing at that......not.

 

Seriously though, how can you go for a break when you are short staffed in the first place, whose going to look after the patients?

 

 

Certainly highlights those doing the job are cut from a different cloth.

 

My response to that would be that's it's managements problem to sort out...which is why I'd never make it in healthcare; at least not on the front line 

[Victorian]

If the staff shortages are going to be an ongoing,  mid-long term situation then the very first thing that needs done is to realise and accept that doing nothing is not an option.  Staff shortages and the consequential impact on the ability to deal with the overall backlog of care will absolutely and undoubtedly cost lives.

 

Ray Gin mentioned vulnerable patients in hospital and got a rather dim response about not everyone being vulnerable.  Remarkable.  Surely even the most determined contrarians would accept that there are some vulnerable people in the hospitals.  Willingly allowing confirmed positive staff to care for vulnerable people is not really a solution in isolation.  Continuing with the status quo is not an option.  There has to be a middle ground solution to free up staff and to continue good infection control.  There should be a thorough review into how to achieve a better and more sustainable situation.  It should also be completely independent of governments and NHS trusts and it's findings made completely mandatory.  There are too many interested / disinterested parties who would represent an obstacle to finding and acting on the best solutions.  

Edited April 5, 2022 by Victorian

[Jambo-Jimbo]

16 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Certainly highlights those doing the job are cut from a different cloth.

 

My response to that would be that's it's managements problem to sort out...which is why I'd never make it in healthcare; at least not on the front line 

 

If management had to work day in day out on the front line, then you'd see completely different staffing levels.

[Taffin]

9 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

If management had to work day in day out on the front line, then you'd see completely different staffing levels.

 

Indeed. The goodwill, work ethic and desire to help others from people like your partner and their willingness to go above and beyond to plug the gaps gets taken advantage of imo.

 

Equally you've got shysters like my GP who wouldn't see me for an ankle injury and instead advised me to travel 30 minutes to an "urgent care" centre...when I did eventually manage to get a lift a couple of days later the receptionist there grunted at me like she was there under duress. 

 

Interestingly I had a private consultation with a GP via phone in the interim who advised I absolutely should see my GP in person for the injury I had.

 

Personal gripe over...my point is that for every NHS star, there's also some with extremely sloping shoulders.

[JudyJudyJudy]

54 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Indeed. The goodwill, work ethic and desire to help others from people like your partner and their willingness to go above and beyond to plug the gaps gets taken advantage of imo.

 

Equally you've got shysters like my GP who wouldn't see me for an ankle injury and instead advised me to travel 30 minutes to an "urgent care" centre...when I did eventually manage to get a lift a couple of days later the receptionist there grunted at me like she was there under duress. 

 

Interestingly I had a private consultation with a GP via phone in the interim who advised I absolutely should see my GP in person for the injury I had.

 

Personal gripe over...my point is that for every NHS star, there's also some with extremely sloping shoulders.

Its shameful that GP practices are more fully opened up.  utterly shambolic. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

33 minutes ago, Victorian said:

If the staff shortages are going to be an ongoing,  mid-long term situation then the very first thing that needs done is to realise and accept that doing nothing is not an option.  Staff shortages and the consequential impact on the ability to deal with the overall backlog of care will absolutely and undoubtedly cost lives.

 

Ray Gin mentioned vulnerable patients in hospital and got a rather dim response about not everyone being vulnerable.  Remarkable.  Surely even the most determined contrarians would accept that there are some vulnerable people in the hospitals.  Willingly allowing confirmed positive staff to care for vulnerable people is not really a solution in isolation.  Continuing with the status quo is not an option.  There has to be a middle ground solution to free up staff and to continue good infection control.  There should be a thorough review into how to achieve a better and more sustainable situation.  It should also be completely independent of governments and NHS trusts and it's findings made completely mandatory.  There are too many interested / disinterested parties who would represent an obstacle to finding and acting on the best solutions.  

 

Staff shortages have been a thing since..........well a very long time, if there was an unlimited budget then all/most of the vacancy's could be filled, but there isn't and every health board has a budget which determines the number of staff they can employ, and the budget doesn't cover the number of vacancy's they have.

 

Governments, both Tory & Labour love to tell us how many newly qualified Doctors & Nurses there has been, but the number is actually immaterial because, let's say there were 9000 newly qualified nurses, but there might only be enough money to employ 6000, and that's the question the media should be asking, how many actually got a job, not how many qualified.

 

This happened in Mrs JJ's year in the early 2000's, quite a few of her fellow students, didn't get jobs in the NHS, some managed to find jobs in care homes, a few ended up abroad, Ireland was often the place to go, and a few ended up working in Tesco etc.

She was unemployed for around about 6 weeks after qualifying, by luck she managed to get a temporary 6 month contract in a winter overflow ward, but there was no guarantees that there would be a job elsewhere in the hospital come the spring when the ward closed. Luckily she got a job in another ward and has been there ever since.

 

[Fire_At_The_Disco]

Got the virus, I have to say I’m absolutely boiling. My core temp must be bordering on dangerous. I’m taking paracetamol & ibuprofen every few hours and drinking loads of water. I just posted as I had the virus in 2020 quite bad and this feels the same but with no cough. Praying I test negative before Saturdays game. ☹️

[HamishMcGonagall]

43 minutes ago, Fire_At_The_Disco said:

Got the virus, I have to say I’m absolutely boiling. My core temp must be bordering on dangerous. I’m taking paracetamol & ibuprofen every few hours and drinking loads of water. I just posted as I had the virus in 2020 quite bad and this feels the same but with no cough. Praying I test negative before Saturdays game. ☹️

 

I'm in the same boat although this is the first time I've had it. Was up all Monday night shivering but sweating profusely and last night I was just constantly coughing up phlegm every few minutes (sorry if that was too much information...). Worried I might have picked up Bronchitis as apparently covid can also cause this and being asthmatic I am quite prone to these kind of things.

 

It better all pass in time for Saturday's game!

[Nucky Thompson]

1 hour ago, Fire_At_The_Disco said:

Got the virus, I have to say I’m absolutely boiling. My core temp must be bordering on dangerous. I’m taking paracetamol & ibuprofen every few hours and drinking loads of water. I just posted as I had the virus in 2020 quite bad and this feels the same but with no cough. Praying I test negative before Saturdays game. ☹️

That's the very first symptom that I had, but I managed to get the temperature down with paracetamol in 18 hours.

I had a slight sore throat and cough for a couple of days after that, but I was feeling fine.

Have you had your vaccines? They should make it much less severe than when you had it in 2020

[Ulysses]

2 hours ago, Fire_At_The_Disco said:

Got the virus, I have to say I’m absolutely boiling. My core temp must be bordering on dangerous. I’m taking paracetamol & ibuprofen every few hours and drinking loads of water. I just posted as I had the virus in 2020 quite bad and this feels the same but with no cough. Praying I test negative before Saturdays game. ☹️

 

48 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

That's the very first symptom that I had, but I managed to get the temperature down with paracetamol in 18 hours.

I had a slight sore throat and cough for a couple of days after that, but I was feeling fine.

Have you had your vaccines? They should make it much less severe than when you had it in 2020

 

I tested positive last week.  Almost no symptoms - no temperature but a bit dehydrated, a wee bit tired, a slight cold, and a slightly rough throat, but all faded within about 48 hours.  Waiting period over and tested negative.  Triple jabbed with Pfizer.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

5 hours ago, Victorian said:

If the staff shortages are going to be an ongoing,  mid-long term situation then the very first thing that needs done is to realise and accept that doing nothing is not an option.  Staff shortages and the consequential impact on the ability to deal with the overall backlog of care will absolutely and undoubtedly cost lives.

 

Ray Gin mentioned vulnerable patients in hospital and got a rather dim response about not everyone being vulnerable.  Remarkable.  Surely even the most determined contrarians would accept that there are some vulnerable people in the hospitals.  Willingly allowing confirmed positive staff to care for vulnerable people is not really a solution in isolation.  Continuing with the status quo is not an option.  There has to be a middle ground solution to free up staff and to continue good infection control.  There should be a thorough review into how to achieve a better and more sustainable situation.  It should also be completely independent of governments and NHS trusts and it's findings made completely mandatory.  There are too many interested / disinterested parties who would represent an obstacle to finding and acting on the best solutions.  

I find the difference in how Scotland is managing NHS iso quite interesting. My wife was dubbed a close contact on Monday from a day out she was on on Saturday. As a health worker, she is classed as essential so she can work but her restrictions are that she must wear a N95 mask at all times from the minute she gets out of the car at the hospital, she must eat alone on breaks and preferably outside and must come straight home and not get out anywhere else of the car other than home. She must do a RAT (aka an LFT) every day and she did a PCR as well on Day 1 of identification. As long as she keeps testing negative she can work. If she is still negative on Friday, 5 days later, she is cleared.

 

PS She'd better stay negative. We have the Grand Prix this weekend!

 

PPS We haven't bothered with iso in the house even though we could do so. If she has it we'll all get it anyway so we would rather get hit in an oner.

[Ulysses]

1 minute ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

I find the difference in how Scotland is managing NHS iso quite interesting. My wife was dubbed a close contact on Monday from a day out she was on on Saturday. As a health worker, she is classed as essential so she can work but her restrictions are that she must wear a N95 mask at all times from the minute she gets out of the car at the hospital, she must eat alone on breaks and preferably outside and must come straight home and not get out anywhere else of the car other than home. She must do a RAT (aka an LFT) every day and she did a PCR as well on Day 1 of identification. As long as she keeps testing negative she can work. If she is still negative on Friday, 5 days later, she is cleared.

 

PS She'd better stay negative. We have the Grand Prix this weekend!

 

PPS We haven't bothered with iso in the house even though we could do so. If she has it we'll all get it anyway so we would rather get hit in an oner.

 

A former workmate of mine has so far sailed through the pandemic Covid-19 free while her husband got it twice and her kids once each - but all at different times.  They didn't do any isolation, and as she said it would probably never have worked anyway.

[Fire_At_The_Disco]

19 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

I tested positive last week.  Almost no symptoms - no temperature but a bit dehydrated, a wee bit tired, a slight cold, and a slightly rough throat, but all faded within about 48 hours.  Waiting period over and tested negative.  Triple jabbed with Pfizer.

I’m kind of hoping the temp is gone by morning so I can get on with life, I’m also triple jabbed 2 x AZ and 1 Pfizer.

[Ulysses]

3 hours ago, Fire_At_The_Disco said:

I’m kind of hoping the temp is gone by morning so I can get on with life, I’m also triple jabbed 2 x AZ and 1 Pfizer.

 

Fingers crossed it'll die down soon.  Max out the paracetamol and ibuprofen, but be careful about not taking ibuprofen on an empty stomach (I say that as someone who's now in effect barred from taking ibuprofen).  Best of luck with it.

[Dazo]

14 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Somewhat different scenario when they're on their lunch breaks and getting changed to start their shift/go home though, isn't it? They need take all their safety gear off.

Lunch breaks and getting changed ? Finger on the pulse as always Ray. 😂

[Dazo]

14 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Somewhat different scenario when they're on their lunch breaks and getting changed to start their shift/go home though, isn't it? They need take all their safety gear off.

Lunch breaks and getting changed ? Finger on the pulse as always Ray. 😂

[Ray Gin]

2 hours ago, Dazo said:

Lunch breaks and getting changed ? Finger on the pulse as always Ray. 😂

 

Laughing at the idea of staff being entitled to lunch breaks? Standard tory.

 

[Dazo]

10 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Was out in the Pentlands at Flotterstone this morning.

 

Passed a bunch of school kids (13-16 y.o?) out for some walking with a teacher near the filter beds. Two of the kids wearing face masks. WTF!?

I’m guessing Smithee and Tommy Brown. 😊

[Weakened Offender]

16 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Was out in the Pentlands at Flotterstone this morning.

 

Passed a bunch of school kids (13-16 y.o?) out for some walking with a teacher near the filter beds. Two of the kids wearing face masks. WTF!?

 

Bit dodgy traipsing about the back of beyond checking out what schoolies are wearing, mind. 😕

[JudyJudyJudy]

17 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Was out in the Pentlands at Flotterstone this morning.

 

Passed a bunch of school kids (13-16 y.o?) out for some walking with a teacher near the filter beds. Two of the kids wearing face masks. WTF!?

Tragic.  Some teacher they have.  He/ she should have informed them it was completely ludicrous. 

6 minutes ago, Dazo said:

I’m guessing Smithee and Tommy Brown. 😊

NOW that really made me chuckle    

3 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Dressed up as 15 year old lassies? 

 

I like when threads cross reference each other/. inter link. Maybe place this on the trans thread too? 

[Weakened Offender]

Just now, jonesy said:

Keeps me off the dark web.

 

Old Skool. 

[Dazo]

11 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Dressed up as 15 year old lassies? 

 

Not for me to judge Jonesy. Live and let live I say. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

6 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 

I disagree, James. I don't think it's a teacher's place to tell kids what (not) to wear.

 

Whether it had come as a direction from their parents or if they genuinely felt the need for face masks while out in the countryside, it really doesn't bode well for these folk as we come out the other side of CV19 that they feel such restrictions are necessary and/or desirable.

if i were a teacher i would advise them that face masks were unnecessary outside.  However when is it gonna be time t let go ?  

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Probably when the dentist was telling us in April 2020 that facemarks were a waste of time.

One month after the start.  Least i woke up to it all fairly early on I suppose. 

[Gizmo]

49 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Was out in the Pentlands at Flotterstone this morning.

 

Passed a bunch of school kids (13-16 y.o?) out for some walking with a teacher near the filter beds. Two of the kids wearing face masks. WTF!?

Perhaps 2 of them are asthmatic and trying to avoid being hit with a large amount of pollen.

[JudyJudyJudy]

10 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

Perhaps 2 of them are asthmatic and trying to avoid being hit with a large amount of pollen.

So if that is the case why haven't we seen people pre covid going about with masks then ?

[GBJambo]

11 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

Perhaps 2 of them are asthmatic and trying to avoid being hit with a large amount of pollen.

Never seen asthmatics wearing masks pre-

covid 😂

[Gizmo]

24 minutes ago, GBJambo said:

Never seen asthmatics wearing masks pre-

covid 😂

 

29 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

So if that is the case why haven't we seen people pre covid going about with masks then ?

Because neither of you were likely remotely aware of other people using them before you got all triggered by mass adoption during the pandemic.  

The back lawn is due a trim at the weekend, do feel free to come round and tut-tut to display your moral outrage as I wear a mask when I cut the grass.