Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Blackford really is an odious piece of work. He is so far up NS's backside it's difficult to know who he breathes.

He able to spout the garbage above safe in the knowledge that the cult boys will lap it up, despite it being utter pish.

Playing political games with people's jobs and it's clappy hands from the believers, many of whom would happily sacrifice Scottish jobs for generations, as long as it bought them some votes.

well said

[Victorian]

The James Show again?  What fun.

[Boab]

Thread's a shambles. 

Rules eh ! Don't you just luv 'em !

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, Victorian said:

The James Show again?  What fun.

 

[Malinga the Swinga]

2 minutes ago, Boab said:

Thread's a shambles. 

Rules eh ! Don't you just luv 'em !

What rules? If political parties want to use Covid to play political games, then it's difficult to avoid political chat on the thread.

As for the other personal stuff about individual preferences, it might be better if they stuck to separate chat, but what can you do. Same goes for the poster who constantly spams threads with pictures of folk peeing(can't believe I actually typed that). 

[Boab]

2 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

What rules? If political parties want to use Covid to play political games, then it's difficult to avoid political chat on the thread.

As for the other personal stuff about individual preferences, it might be better if they stuck to separate chat, but what can you do. Same goes for the poster who constantly spams threads with pictures of folk peeing(can't believe I actually typed that). 

It was the second paragraph I was alluding to, not the first.

Shambles, as I say !

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I see Sturgeon is back to daily TV broadcasts 

I'll miss it.

Liquid lunch takes precedence. 

[cheetah]

James should have his own theme tune..

 

 

[Malinga the Swinga]

3 minutes ago, Boab said:

It was the second paragraph I was alluding to, not the first.

Shambles, as I say !

 

I would give thumbs up but I have no idea on emoji things.

[Victorian]

The political structure is broken.  Clearly the scientific advice is that more restrictions are essential.  The UK government is impotent in that regard.  It can't bring about the restrictions without a major revolt in the party that would warrant the demise of the idiot squatter 'in charge'.  The devolved governments get the same advice but they are prevented from acting due to the impotence and constipation of action of the custodians of critical financial aid.

 

Broken.  Shambolic.  All geared around the personal interests of one man.

[Ray Gin]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I see Sturgeon is back to daily TV broadcasts 

 

Some positive news, at last.

[Maroon Sailor]

7 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

I'll miss it.

Liquid lunch takes precedence. 

 

Make sure it's water.

 

Omicron loves a beer drinker and will pounce at any opportunity.

[Victorian]

The current de facto lockdown / reduction in commercial activity is the result of the personal interests of one man.  Businesses throughout the UK are currently paying to facilitate a netherworld between normal business and restrictions with financial support.  It's an obscene situation.  The Boris Tax.  Everybody bearing the burden of that arsehole clinging on to his position.

[Maroon Sailor]

3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Some positive news, at last.

 

No positive news comes out of her mouth

 

Grinch and Scrooge rolled in to one

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Make sure it's water.

 

Omicron loves a beer drinker and will pounce at any opportunity.

[JudyJudyJudy]

10 minutes ago, cheetah said:

James should have his own theme tune..

 

 

 Love those  lyrics  it can be  the theme song 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by JamesM48

[XB52]

21 minutes ago, Victorian said:

The James Show again?  What fun.

Never mind his own thread, he should have his own message board. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 hour ago, theshed said:

 

You won’t catch the BBC or ITV reporting any of this today 

 

Indeed, they reported this several days ago, it's old news.

[XB52]

32 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

 

Edited as you made an arse of yourself, made even funnier by your wee u turn pal agreeing with you 

[Taffin]

8 minutes ago, Victorian said:

The political structure is broken.  Clearly the scientific advice is that more restrictions are essential.  The UK government is impotent in that regard.  It can't bring about the restrictions without a major revolt in the party that would warrant the demise of the idiot squatter 'in charge'.  The devolved governments get the same advice but they are prevented from acting due to the impotence and constipation of action of the custodians of critical financial aid.

 

Broken.  Shambolic.  All geared around the personal interests of one man.

 

I think we're very much of the same overall feeling on this, that it's an awful set up and change is needed. I don't agree with the part from the bit in bold though as to what is the cause.

 

They're prevented from acting because the don't have the powers to do so, they will always remain at the behest of the UK government so long as they remain in the 'Union'. Whether the Westminster occupants are making good decisions, bad decisions or as now, no decisions is neither here, nor there imo...it's the way it is.

 

In Scotland's case it had the chance to remedy that, and chose not to. Am I still bitter about that? You bet.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Taffin said:

 

I think we're very much of the same overall feeling on this, that it's an awful set up and change is needed. I don't agree with the part from the bit in bold though as to what is the cause.

 

They're prevented from acting because the don't have the powers to do so, they will always remain at the behest of the UK government so long as they remain in the 'Union'. Whether the Westminster occupants are making good decisions, bad decisions or as now, no decisions is neither here, nor there imo...it's the way it is.

 

In Scotland's case it had the chance to remedy that, and chose not to. Am I still bitter about that? You bet.

its probably a blessing in disguise we voted No in 2014. Imagine the shitshow we would have been in now with covid without Westminster. Doesn't bare thinking  about. Who would Elsie have had to beg for money from ? 

[Victorian]

Personally I'll just accept news.  Whatever news is on the go,  I'll view it.  Really not sure why people are so insistent in only being interested in 'good' news,  just for the sake of it.  News is news.  If good news comes along,  I'll be as giddy as the next guy.  If not so good news comes along,  it gets digested without any dramas.

 

I think some people are engaged in a kind of self-censorship of themselves.  I can't imagine it serves much purpose or serves anyone well.  But hey-ho.

[Malinga the Swinga]

2 minutes ago, XB52 said:

Edited as you made an arse of yourself, made even funnier by your wee u turn pal agreeing with you 

Edited because I was taken in by false post. Pardon me for believing it.

Still, if it cheered you up, wasn't a waste of time and the second part of response still stands.

[Taffin]

2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

its probably a blessing in disguise we voted No in 2014. Imagine the shitshow we would have been in now with covid without Westminster. Doesn't bare thinking  about. Who would Elsie have had to beg for money from ? 

 

Maybe, maybe not, but we'd have at least been masters of our own destiny...

 

...and we'd have been spared the grievance politics though.

 

[Maroon Sailor]

2 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Edited because I was taken in by false post. Pardon me for believing it.

Still, if it cheered you up, wasn't a waste of time and the second part of response still stands.

 

Easy mistake to make from his real name of Lian Blackturd

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, Taffin said:

 

Maybe, maybe not, but we'd have at least been masters of our own destiny...

 

...and we'd have been spared the grievance politics though.

 

Some destiny though ...........

[Malinga the Swinga]

5 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I think we're very much of the same overall feeling on this, that it's an awful set up and change is needed. I don't agree with the part from the bit in bold though as to what is the cause.

 

They're prevented from acting because the don't have the powers to do so, they will always remain at the behest of the UK government so long as they remain in the 'Union'. Whether the Westminster occupants are making good decisions, bad decisions or as now, no decisions is neither here, nor there imo...it's the way it is.

 

In Scotland's case it had the chance to remedy that, and chose not to. Am I still bitter about that? You bet.

They could always work together, as they did for first couple of months before they decided, and I mean all of the parties, that scoring points more important than people.

BJ, NS, KS and Drakeford have behaved like 3 or 4 year olds instead of the state's people they should be.

Am I bitter about that, you bet.

[Bull's-eye]

22 minutes ago, Victorian said:

The political structure is broken.  Clearly the scientific advice is that more restrictions are essential.  The UK government is impotent in that regard.  It can't bring about the restrictions without a major revolt in the party that would warrant the demise of the idiot squatter 'in charge'.  The devolved governments get the same advice but they are prevented from acting due to the impotence and constipation of action of the custodians of critical financial aid.

 

Broken.  Shambolic.  All geared around the personal interests of one man.

 

😆😆😆

 

Go for a walk man, speak to real people.

Have a pint.

Get on with life 😆😆😆😆

[Nucky Thompson]

7 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Personally I'll just accept news.  Whatever news is on the go,  I'll view it.  Really not sure why people are so insistent in only being interested in 'good' news,  just for the sake of it.  News is news.  If good news comes along,  I'll be as giddy as the next guy.  If not so good news comes along,  it gets digested without any dramas.

 

I think some people are engaged in a kind of self-censorship of themselves.  I can't imagine it serves much purpose or serves anyone well.  But hey-ho.

It's how the news is reported.

Some will twist it to make it look negative and vice versa.

[JudyJudyJudy]

7 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

They could always work together, as they did for first couple of months before they decided, and I mean all of the parties, that scoring points more important than people.

BJ, NS, KS and Drakeford have behaved like 3 or 4 year olds instead of the state's people they should be.

Am I bitter about that, you bet.

That's been the big learning from this . Devolved health was a mistake. it should have been a one approach to the pandemic. it would have prevented all the political point scoring and subsequently the ruining of peoples lives due to it .  When the  pandemic is over this need to be a priority. We are to small an island to have such public health divergence. 

Edited December 17, 2021 by JamesM48

[Taffin]

1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

They could always work together, as they did for first couple of months before they decided, and I mean all of the parties, that scoring points more important than people.

BJ, NS, KS and Drakeford have behaved like 3 or 4 year olds instead of the state's people they should be.

Am I bitter about that, you bet.

 

They could, it would very pragmatic and I'd be in support of that as well.

 

However, only one administration is responsible for all of the people of the UK and like it or loathe it that is Westminster. Each devolved administration has their own powers to use at they see fit, which they've been doing and continue to do. If they don't like that it's limited in scope, that's unfortunate...but it's a reflection of the will of their people.

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

 

😆😆😆

 

Go for a walk man, speak to real people.

Have a pint.

Get on with life 😆😆😆😆

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

4 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Personally I'll just accept news.  Whatever news is on the go,  I'll view it.  Really not sure why people are so insistent in only being interested in 'good' news,  just for the sake of it.  News is news.  If good news comes along,  I'll be as giddy as the next guy.  If not so good news comes along,  it gets digested without any dramas.

 

I think some people are engaged in a kind of self-censorship of themselves.  I can't imagine it serves much purpose or serves anyone well.  But hey-ho.

 

Same here, news is news, good or bad it's all news, the trick is sorting out what is real good news and what is bad news, and often not by the headline, because often good news doesn't turn out to be all that good and equally sometimes bad news isn't that bad once you get past the headline, often it's full of if's but's and maybes, might could possibly etc etc..........

[Victorian]

8 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I think we're very much of the same overall feeling on this, that it's an awful set up and change is needed. I don't agree with the part from the bit in bold though as to what is the cause.

 

They're prevented from acting because the don't have the powers to do so, they will always remain at the behest of the UK government so long as they remain in the 'Union'. Whether the Westminster occupants are making good decisions, bad decisions or as now, no decisions is neither here, nor there imo...it's the way it is.

 

In Scotland's case it had the chance to remedy that, and chose not to. Am I still bitter about that? You bet.

 

It was a fair decision by the Scottish people to reject independence.  UK unionist figures campaigned for Scotland to remain but we're currently hostages in a broken settlement.  We can't act on public health protection that the UK government appears not to care about.  

 

It's like some kind of tinpot,  3rd world dictatorship at the moment.  The dictator is represented by a faction of the ruling party in complete control of the destiny of slovenly,  shambolic,  corrupt idiot they tolerated for a previous purpose.  Zealots and ideologues riding roughshod over scientific advice they aren't even tasked with.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

5 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

It's how the news is reported.

Some will twist it to make it look negative and vice versa.

 

Absolutely, how many times have you seen or read 4 or 5 different news outlets report the same story and every one of them has a different slant to the story, a different agenda that they want to push.

[Taffin]

9 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

It was a fair decision by the Scottish people to reject independence.  UK unionist figures campaigned for Scotland to remain but we're currently hostages in a broken settlement.  We can't act on public health protection that the UK government appears not to care about.  

 

It's like some kind of tinpot,  3rd world dictatorship at the moment.  The dictator is represented by a faction of the ruling party in complete control of the destiny of slovenly,  shambolic,  corrupt idiot they tolerated for a previous purpose.  Zealots and ideologues riding roughshod over scientific advice they aren't even tasked with.

 

Healthcare the UK govt don't care about, but who also have a democratic mandate from the people of the UK to make decisions on for them.

 

Your second paragraph is my thoughts on it too, by and large...but it is regrettably the way the cookie crumbles in regards to Scotland. It chose this path, and moaning about it now serves no purpose imo. 

 

 

 

Edit: But at the risk of Ray telling me off again for talking about politics I'll leave it at that on this topic...I think we're pretty close in opinion anyway in that the UK, Westminster and in particular it's current occupants are disastrous. 👍

Edited December 17, 2021 by Taffin

[pablo]

3 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

It was a fair decision by the Scottish people to reject independence.  UK unionist figures campaigned for Scotland to remain but we're currently hostages in a broken settlement.  We can't act on public health protection that the UK government appears not to care about.  

 

It's like some kind of tinpot,  3rd world dictatorship at the moment.  The dictator is represented by a faction of the ruling party in complete control of the destiny of slovenly,  shambolic,  corrupt idiot they tolerated for a previous purpose.  Zealots and ideologues riding roughshod over scientific advice they aren't even tasked with.

 

Taxation is partially devolved. However as we've just recently found out, the SNP raising taxes doesn't actually result in increased revenue. That should be our number one concern.

 

So just to be clear, the First Minister is going to ask the Treasury for additional funding, but is planning to hold a referendum next year on leaving the UK and if she succeeds may or may not pay the debt back?

 

The problem isn't with the UK, the Treasury or Government funding. Have a look closer to home.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Forget that its Wooton.

 

But listen to what she says, She should be on  the telly at 12 today with this message and not Elsie.

 

 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, pablo said:

 

Taxation is partially devolved. However as we've just recently found out, the SNP raising taxes doesn't actually result in increased revenue. That should be our number one concern.

 

So just to be clear, the First Minister is going to ask the Treasury for additional funding, but is planning to hold a referendum next year on leaving the UK and if she succeeds may or may not pay the debt back?

 

The problem isn't with the UK, the Treasury or Government funding. Have a look closer to home.

Some of her support think its perfectly legitimate to renege or " bump" ( great Scottish word that) any of our debts once we become Independent. Sorry if we became Independent. That's their  mind set. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, jonesy said:

If you've missed her being on yer screen daily I'm sure there's a niche category on PornHub for those who just need to crank one out to a stern-faced hacket boot. 

That's a shocking comment to say about a woman. It really is. Do you hate women?  

[Japan Jambo]

11 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said:

This is BBCQT in Stoke on Trent - a rabid brexit voting constituency. The BBC will have picked an audience to reflect this demographic

This is something else. 

 

This is what SoT thinks of the govts Covid messaging. 

 

 

 

Caught QT by accident last night, thought Nandy handed him his arse on more than one occasion.

 

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 hour ago, SE16 3LN said:

On a positive note, Macron has confirmed that he'll relax restrictions on UK visitors in the event of an invasion from Germany

 

Has Napoleon not started his long march to Moscow yet? 

[kila]

4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Forget that its Wooton.

 

But listen to what she says, She should be on  the telly at 12 today with this message and not Elsie.

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully it is the way out of it by giving us a dominant mild variant. But if you were in charge of a country, would you put all your eggs in one basket and hope for the best, or would you have a contingency plan in case it goes tits up? I think that's why Wales are looking to close night clubs in what, 10 days time is it? Should have a clear idea of what we're up against then.

 

We're not overreacting yet.

[Japan Jambo]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

lol 

 

Outrageous, if the FM wants to play Santa Claus she should use the tax raising powers she has and barry on. Fed up with her constant giveaways/my friend will pay approach.

 

BTW, that is from a fake account....

Edited December 17, 2021 by Japan Jambo
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[Victorian]

2 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

Taxation is partially devolved. However as we've just recently found out, the SNP raising taxes doesn't actually result in increased revenue. That should be our number one concern.

 

So just to be clear, the First Minister is going to ask the Treasury for additional funding, but is planning to hold a referendum next year on leaving the UK and if she succeeds may or may not pay the debt back?

 

The problem isn't with the UK, the Treasury or Government funding. Have a look closer to home.

 

Scotland can only exist within the current settlement.  The current UK leader has prevented further revisiting of the question.  So his policy is that Scotland remains in the structure of the union,  yet our elected representative are prevented from acting in accordance with their advice due to personal and in-house party considerations.  

 

It's a busted,  dysfunctional set up.  Westminster would have more legitimacy if they tore up devolution altogether.  But they're too cowardly to do it.

[John Gentleman]

10 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Forget that its Wooton.

 

But listen to what she says, She should be on  the telly at 12 today with this message and not Elsie.

 

 

 

 

She can "believe" all she wants, but that doesn't make her an epidemiologist. I'll run with what they have to say about it.

[Ray Gin]

12 minutes ago, jonesy said:

If you've missed her being on yer screen daily I'm sure there's a niche category on PornHub for those who just need to crank one out to a stern-faced hacket boot. 

 

Sadly not found any with a decent resemblance.  

[JudyJudyJudy]

5 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Outrageous, if the FM wants to play Santa Claus she should use the tax raising powers she has and barry on. Fed up with her constant giveaways/my friend will pay approach.

 

 

Hi mate its a parody account,. I should have said that in the posting. its a very good one as its so close to what that eject might say.  Correct on your other points too. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, John Gentleman said:

She can "believe" all she wants, but that doesn't make her an epidemiologist. I'll run with what they have to say about it.

and neither is Sturgeon, 

[Shanks said no]

Here we go