Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 hours ago, redjambo said:

I'll need to post the trend stats in two separate chunks to avoid there being loads of N/A's. Firstly, the case, positivity rate and council area stats. Changes are from 1 November to today and the colour coding shows the average daily change since that date. Apologies if there are any errors - my spreadsheet is currently a mess due to all these data issues we've been having.

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday			1 Nov	...	1 Oct
Scotland	4		346	N/A	+14		332	...	345
Na h-Eileanan Siar	4		623	N/A	+227		396	...	234
Orkney Islands	4		621	N/A	+14		607	...	85
Clackmannanshire	4		562	N/A	-66		628	...	328
East Ayrshire	4		522	N/A	+128		394	...	440
Angus	4		472	N/A	+85		387	...	234
Inverclyde	4		443	N/A	+180		263	...	365
Stirling	4		439	N/A	+96		343	...	366
Scottish Borders	4		430	N/A	+86		344	...	188
Dumfries & Galloway	4		423	N/A	+97		326	...	361
West Lothian	4		417	N/A	-36		453	...	504
Argyll & Bute	4		411	N/A	+25		386	...	304
Perth & Kinross	4		407	N/A	+169		238	...	304
Falkirk	4		402	N/A	+76		326	...	421
Highland	4	211	384	N/A	+66		318	...	168
North Lanarkshire	4		383	N/A	-9		392	...	442
Fife	4		374	N/A	-17		391	...	407
Moray	4		365	N/A	+43		322	...	231
South Lanarkshire	4		365	N/A	+17		348	...	382
Aberdeenshire	4		360	N/A	-108		468	...	339
East Dunbartonshire	4		349	N/A	+5		344	...	382
North Ayrshire	4		343	N/A	+6		337	...	441
South Ayrshire	4		341	N/A	+58		283	...	541
West Dunbartonshire	4		335	N/A	+19		316	...	437
Aberdeen City	4		333	N/A	-10		343	...	292
East Lothian	4	214	323	N/A	-3		326	...	265
Dundee City	4		315	N/A	-49		364	...	427
Midlothian	4		290	N/A	-39		329	...	327
East Renfrewshire	4		285	N/A	+42		243	...	354
Renfrewshire	4		266	N/A	+4		262	...	371
Edinburgh City	4		232	N/A	-32		264	...	238
Glasgow City	4		220	N/A	+1		219	...	328
Shetland Islands	3		136	N/A	-35		171	...	70
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			1 Nov	...	1 Oct
Tests			30889	N/A	-418		31307	...	35457
Cases			2706	N/A	+112		2594	...	2694
Positivity rate %			8.9	N/A	0.0		8.9	...	8.2

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[Dennis Denuto]

13 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

The other wheatfiled entrance is from smith field street 

The Gorgie Stand entrance is on Tynecastle Terrace, The Whetfield Stand entrance ison the corner of Wheatfield St and Wheatfield Terrace.

 

Smithfield Street is a whole block away from Tynecastle.

[JudyJudyJudy]

33 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said:

The Gorgie Stand entrance is on Tynecastle Terrace, The Whetfield Stand entrance ison the corner of Wheatfield St and Wheatfield Terrace.

 

Smithfield Street is a whole block away from Tynecastle.

Yes that's it. I was very hungover yesterday so my brain wasn't connected to my thinking. well that's my excuse. Obviously some of this will disagree.

[Ray Gin]

Singapore's approach to Covid-19 vaccines:

Refuse a free vaccine? Fair enough, but if you then require hospital treatment for Covid-19, you need to pay for it. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/unvaccinated-by-choice-covid-patients-must-pay-own-medical-bills-122406658.html

 

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

18 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

Singapore's approach to Covid-19 vaccines:

Refuse a free vaccine? Fair enough, but if you then require hospital treatment for Covid-19, you need to pay for it. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/unvaccinated-by-choice-covid-patients-must-pay-own-medical-bills-122406658.html

 

 

 

You choose not to get the vaccine then if you get sick with covid you pay for your treatment, sounds fair to me.

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 8 November 2021

Summary

• 2,012 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-896; down from 2,065 a week ago]
• 19,251 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-8,289]
  • 11.0% of these were positive [-0.1%]
• 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are generally closed at the weekend) [-2]
• 54 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-3]
• 803 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+10]
• 4,323,549 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,917,210 have received their second dose [+2,167; +2,785]

[SuperstarSteve]

3 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

You choose not to get the vaccine then if you get sick with covid you pay for your treatment, sounds fair to me.

Would have to be across the board you’d think if that was to happen in UK. Smoking = pay for lung treatment and so on

[redjambo]

The latest trend stats, part uno:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday		...	1 Nov
Scotland	4		346	346	0	...	332
Na h-Eileanan Siar	4		608	623	-15	...	396
Orkney Islands	4		607	621	-14	...	607
Clackmannanshire	4		573	562	+11	...	628
East Ayrshire	4		534	522	+12	...	394
Angus	4		473	472	+1	...	387
Dumfries & Galloway	4		457	423	+34	...	326
Inverclyde	4		446	443	+3	...	263
Stirling	4		439	439	0	...	343
Perth & Kinross	4		429	407	+22	...	238
Scottish Borders	4		423	430	-7	...	344
Argyll & Bute	4		398	411	-13	...	386
Falkirk	4		393	402	-9	...	326
West Lothian	4		393	417	-24	...	453
Highland	4	211	390	384	+6	...	318
North Lanarkshire	4		379	383	-4	...	392
Fife	4		376	374	+2	...	391
Moray	4		368	365	+3	...	322
North Ayrshire	4		358	343	+15	...	337
South Lanarkshire	4		356	365	-9	...	348
South Ayrshire	4		355	341	+14	...	283
Aberdeenshire	4		346	360	-14	...	468
Aberdeen City	4		340	333	+7	...	343
East Dunbartonshire	4		329	349	-20	...	344
West Dunbartonshire	4		320	335	-15	...	316
East Renfrewshire	4		314	285	+29	...	243
East Lothian	4	214	313	323	-10	...	326
Dundee City	4		303	315	-12	...	364
Renfrewshire	4		278	266	+12	...	262
Midlothian	4		268	290	-22	...	329
Edinburgh City	4		230	232	-2	...	264
Glasgow City	4		217	220	-3	...	219
Shetland Islands	3		149	136	+13	...	171

[redjambo]

And part dos:

 

7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			6 Nov	5 Nov	4 Nov	3 Nov	2 Nov	...	1 Nov
Tests			30722	30889	-167		N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	...	31307
Cases			2698	2706	-8		N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	...	2594
Positivity rate %			8.9	8.9	0.0		N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	...	8.9
Deaths			19	19	0		19	18	18	16	17	...	16
All in hospital			860	879	-19		895	911	923	927	926	...	924
Non-ICU			801	818	-17		833	847	859	864	864	...	862
ICU			59	61	-2		62	64	64	63	62	...	62

[The Real Maroonblood]

22 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest trend stats, part uno:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday		...	1 Nov
Scotland	4		346	346	0	...	332
Na h-Eileanan Siar	4		608	623	-15	...	396
Orkney Islands	4		607	621	-14	...	607
Clackmannanshire	4		573	562	+11	...	628
East Ayrshire	4		534	522	+12	...	394
Angus	4		473	472	+1	...	387
Dumfries & Galloway	4		457	423	+34	...	326
Inverclyde	4		446	443	+3	...	263
Stirling	4		439	439	0	...	343
Perth & Kinross	4		429	407	+22	...	238
Scottish Borders	4		423	430	-7	...	344
Argyll & Bute	4		398	411	-13	...	386
Falkirk	4		393	402	-9	...	326
West Lothian	4		393	417	-24	...	453
Highland	4	211	390	384	+6	...	318
North Lanarkshire	4		379	383	-4	...	392
Fife	4		376	374	+2	...	391
Moray	4		368	365	+3	...	322
North Ayrshire	4		358	343	+15	...	337
South Lanarkshire	4		356	365	-9	...	348
South Ayrshire	4		355	341	+14	...	283
Aberdeenshire	4		346	360	-14	...	468
Aberdeen City	4		340	333	+7	...	343
East Dunbartonshire	4		329	349	-20	...	344
West Dunbartonshire	4		320	335	-15	...	316
East Renfrewshire	4		314	285	+29	...	243
East Lothian	4	214	313	323	-10	...	326
Dundee City	4		303	315	-12	...	364
Renfrewshire	4		278	266	+12	...	262
Midlothian	4		268	290	-22	...	329
Edinburgh City	4		230	232	-2	...	264
Glasgow City	4		217	220	-3	...	219
Shetland Islands	3		149	136	+13	...	171

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[Dennis Denuto]

50 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said:

Would have to be across the board you’d think if that was to happen in UK. Smoking = pay for lung treatment and so on

Is it the same in Singapore? Why would all that have to be treated the same here?

 

BTW I do not think it is a good idea to charge for Covid treatments

[Victorian]

You would end up with hundreds of legal cases disputing covid as the reason for treatment.  Many instances of confrontations in hospitals.  

 

It's morally bankrupt to contribute to the burden on the NHS through willfull choice to remain unvaccinated.  But yes,  it's a valid point regarding other lifestyle choices.  Where do you draw the line?  

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, SuperstarSteve said:

Would have to be across the board you’d think if that was to happen in UK. Smoking = pay for lung treatment and so on

Where would it end ? Heavy drinkers ? Smokers ? Fast good guzzlers ? People not exercising ? 

[Beni]

4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Where would it end ? Heavy drinkers ? Smokers ? Fast good guzzlers ? People not exercising ? 

 

Heavy drinkers won't get a liver transplant unless they can give up the booze.

 

[Taffin]

Getting vaccinated is the best action you can take to minimise your chances of ending up in hospital with Covid but it's not the only one; so unsure if you need to exclude people who'd increased the risk profile via other means too.

 

Not the worst idea though. 

[CavySlaveJambo]

On 07/11/2021 at 10:08, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

That's interesting that they are happy to give you another brew on top of the AZ first two. 

All Boosters are Pfizer or Moderna. Depending on supplies.  Plus plenty of people in other countries and some here have AZ + Pfizer as their primary vaccines 

[JudyJudyJudy]

30 minutes ago, Taffin said:

Getting vaccinated is the best action you can take to minimise your chances of ending up in hospital with Covid but it's not the only one; so unsure if you need to exclude people who'd increased the risk profile via other means too.

 

Not the worst idea though. 

True .  The Govt could also have used the covid crisis to encourage people to think about their general health anyway. Obesity is almost a taboo subject regarding health and the impact it has had on the NHS.  

34 minutes ago, Beni said:

 

Heavy drinkers won't get a liver transplant unless they can give up the booze.

 

Heavy drinking can also cause various other serious issues affecting the heart and several other  cancers. 

[Seymour M Hersh]

11 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

True .  The Govt could also have used the covid crisis to encourage people to think about their general health anyway. Obesity is almost a taboo subject regarding health and the impact it has had on the NHS.  

Heavy drinking can also cause various other serious issues affecting the heart and several other  cancers. 

 

Mates of mine used to drink heavy. Is it still brewed? 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Mates of mine used to drink heavy. Is it still brewed? 

OH right. i see what you did there....took me time though  

[SuperstarSteve]

1 hour ago, Dennis Denuto said:

Is it the same in Singapore? Why would all that have to be treated the same here?

 

BTW I do not think it is a good idea to charge for Covid treatments

Not that it would have to, but i don’t for a second believe if paying for covid treatment came into play, that it would end there. 
If you chose to not get a vaccine and must pay for treatment. I can see smokers being the next target. If you choose to smoke, you will be pay for future lung treatments etc. It would open up the floodgates to milk the public for all sorts of choices they are making. 
 

I’m with you, I don’t agree it is a good idea either. 
 

[Unknown user]

4 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said:

Not that it would have to, but i don’t for a second believe if paying for covid treatment came into play, that it would end there. 
If you chose to not get a vaccine and must pay for treatment. I can see smokers being the next target. If you choose to smoke, you will be pay for future lung treatments etc. It would open up the floodgates to milk the public for all sorts of choices they are making. 
 

I’m with you, I don’t agree it is a good idea either. 
 

 

I'm with you, most people are I'm sure.

 

But people still vote tory.

[Drew Wallace]

I tested positive yesterday

 

10 dyas isolation it is

 

Sore chest and aches all over but feel fine

 

How have  others been when testing positive  and dealing with it

 

Thanks 

[Fxxx the SPFL]

38 minutes ago, Drew Wallace said:

I tested positive yesterday

 

10 dyas isolation it is

 

Sore chest and aches all over but feel fine

 

How have  others been when testing positive  and dealing with it

 

Thanks 

Me and the wife both had it couple of months ago minimal issues tickly cough and a high temperature for twenty four hours that’s all but when I tested positive with the PCR test you get the test and trace call a few hours later the lass asked me when my symptoms started and she said the ten days start from then not the positive test result date unless that’s when yours started 

[Drew Wallace]

6 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

Me and the wife both had it couple of months ago minimal issues tickly cough and a high temperature for twenty four hours that’s all but when I tested positive with the PCR test you get the test and trace call a few hours later the lass asked me when my symptoms started and she said the ten days start from then not the positive test result date unless that’s when yours started 

Thanks for the reply mate

 

I was tested on Sunday morning after testing positive twice in the house on Saturday 

 

The messages on phone or by email  i got indicated the ten days start form  the off

 

Ill just count the days down hopefully and move on 

[Fxxx the SPFL]

2 minutes ago, Drew Wallace said:

Thanks for the reply mate

 

I was tested on Sunday morning after testing positive twice in the house on Saturday 

 

The messages on phone or by email  i got indicated the ten days start form  the off

 

Ill just count the days down hopefully and move on 

Good luck hopefully pass quickly at least you’re not missing a match

[Drew Wallace]

Bang on buddy 😎

[JudyJudyJudy]

40 minutes ago, jonesy said:

All they need to do to solve that one is make all Greggs takeaways mobile vans that constantly move around at about 6mph. Fatties need to jog to get their steak bakes. Problem solved, billions saved.

Great idea. You should pitch it to Nicky...

38 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Woe betide the unvaccinated Singaporean who, upon contracting Covid, develops a cough, causing them to hurl out some chewing gum from their mouth.

 

Straight to the gas chamber.

those selfish gits no getting a 3 rd jab.   

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

6 hours ago, Victorian said:

You would end up with hundreds of legal cases disputing covid as the reason for treatment.  Many instances of confrontations in hospitals.  

 

It's morally bankrupt to contribute to the burden on the NHS through willfull choice to remain unvaccinated.  But yes,  it's a valid point regarding other lifestyle choices.  Where do you draw the line?  

“morally bankrupt” 

 

 

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

5 hours ago, Taffin said:

Getting vaccinated is the best action you can take to minimise your chances of ending up in hospital with Covid but it's not the only one; so unsure if you need to exclude people who'd increased the risk profile via other means too.

 

Not the worst idea though. 

continuing to social distance probably even better than being vaccinated - socially distancing plus vaccinated that’s where it is

 

anything less “morally bankrupt”

 

 

[Alex Kintner]

 

Swanning around a busy hospital with no mask on. Absolute abomination.

[Nucky Thompson]

8 hours ago, Alex Kintner said:

 

Swanning around a busy hospital with no mask on. Absolute abomination.

Aye, that hospital corridor looks rammed 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Aye, that hospital corridor looks rammed 

 

 

Not that I support him but this was posted later on on Twitter 

 

 

[Ray Gin]

12 hours ago, Alex Kintner said:

 

Swanning around a busy hospital with no mask on. Absolute abomination.

 

Why is he walking around panting like a dog?!

[Victorian]

27 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Why is he walking around panting like a dog?!

 

Everyone should aspire to self improvement.

[cheetah]

2 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Not that I support him but this was posted later on on Twitter 

 

 

 

Which in fact he didn't, I work in a Northumberland hospital and it is mandatory to wear a mask when walking around the corridors and in all departments, only time you can take it off is when you are in your office. 

[Taffin]

7 minutes ago, cheetah said:

 

Which in fact he didn't, I work in a Northumberland hospital and it is mandatory to wear a mask when walking around the corridors and in all departments, only time you can take it off is when you are in your office. 

 

Are you suggesting he didn't wear a mask in clinical areas? Or just that the measures he followed weren't strict?

[Dennis Denuto]

11 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Are you suggesting he didn't wear a mask in clinical areas? Or just that the measures he followed weren't strict?

I think he is suggesting he didn't follow the same rules on masks as the hospital staff are required to do, which is evident from the photographs.

[Alex Kintner]

1 minute ago, Dennis Denuto said:

I think he is suggesting he didn't follow the same rules on masks as the hospital staff are required to do, which is evident from the photographs.

My local NHS hospital has masks as compulsory at the entrance. Can only assume it’ll be the same at all hospitals.

[Alex Kintner]

5 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Aye, that hospital corridor looks rammed 

 

 

Yep, we all know how quiet hospitals are just now. Virtually a story every day in the news just now about how bored staff are. 👍🏻

[NANOJAMBO]

16 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Are you suggesting he didn't wear a mask in clinical areas? Or just that the measures he followed weren't strict?

Raab apparently said this morning Johnson  wore a mask for "part" of his visit. Presumably he took it off for the photo opp. 

[Taffin]

8 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said:

I think he is suggesting he didn't follow the same rules on masks as the hospital staff are required to do, which is evident from the photographs.

 

Ah okay 👍 it was the inference that the tweet was false which threw me as it doesn't say in the tweet he follow all the rules or the same ones as the staff.

 

2 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Raab apparently said this morning Johnson  wore a mask for "part" of his visit. Presumably he took it off for the photo opp. 

 

👍 Cheers

[Unknown user]

10 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Raab apparently said this morning Johnson  wore a mask for "part" of his visit. Presumably he took it off for the photo opp. 

 

Apparently a creaky door made him think a prole had farted so he had to if he didn't want to catch the common flu.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

More good news.

 

A week after the UK approved an anti-viral drug to treat covid-19 made by Merck, another one this time made by Pfizer has shown in trials to cut the risk of hospitalsations & deaths from covid-19 by 89%.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-pfizer-antiviral-pill-could-be-available-early-in-2022-if-approved-12464491

 

Pfizer hope their anti-viral drug will be approved and available in the UK by early next year, the UK has ordered 250,000 courses of the drug from Pfizer, this is in addition to the 480,000 courses bought from Merck.

 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Jambo-Jimbo

[Victorian]

28 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

More good news.

 

A week after the UK approved an anti-viral drug to treat covid-19 made by Merck, another one this time made by Pfizer has shown in trials to cut the risk of hospitalsations & deaths from covid-19 by 89%.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-pfizer-antiviral-pill-could-be-available-early-in-2022-if-approved-12464491

 

Pfizer hope their anti-viral drug will be approved and available in the UK by early next year, the UK has ordered 250,000 courses of the drug from Pfizer, this is in addition to the 480,000 courses bought from Merck.

 

 

The results of that trial are astonishing given the details of the cohort of who participated.  If that replicates in real world use then it's about as big an intervention as the vaccines.  I think I read that the Pzifer anti-viral will be cheaper than the Merck one as well.  But Pfizer will make billions from this and rightly so.

[Taffin]

Quite encouraging figures; but also begs the question, what are the remaining 1%?

[cheetah]

1 hour ago, Taffin said:

 

Are you suggesting he didn't wear a mask in clinical areas? Or just that the measures he followed weren't strict?

 I am suggesting he didn't follow the rules that us staff have to follow, and all visitors have to follow, which is evident in the photo. Everyone has to wear a mask if you are moving around in the corridors.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

Got my appointment letter today for my booster and my flu jab, at my local village hall next week.

It'll be 6 months and 1 day after my 2nd covid jab.

 

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 9 November 2021

Summary

• 2,233 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+221; no 7-day delta due to last week's data issue]
• 19,459 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+208]
  • 12.0% of these were positive [+1.0%]
• 20 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+20]
• 57 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+3]
• 753 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-50]
• 4,324,440 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,918,528 have received their second dose [+891; +1,318]

[Jeff]

Hospital numbers looking good. Boosters working wonders?

[redjambo]

Very limited 7-day stats today due to recent data issues.

 

7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			7 Nov	6 Nov	5 Nov	4 Nov	3 Nov	...	1 Nov
Deaths			18	19	-1		19	19	18	18	16	...	16
All in hospital			835	860	-25		879	895	911	923	927	...	924
Non-ICU			777	801	-24		818	833	847	859	864	...	862
ICU			58	59	-1		61	62	64	64	63	...	62