NANOJAMBO Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just seen this on Twitter - There have been at least 101 kids who have died with Covid in the U.K. Some with comorbidities but who still had the capacity for full and happy lives ahead of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 The data issues continue. Cases look to be on the rise though. Summary 3,867* new cases of COVID-19 reported [no deltas due to data issues] 43,735* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [no deltas due to data issues] 9.6% of these were positive [no deltas due to data issues] 20 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-4] 65 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+5] 926 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [=] 4,315,802 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,905,177 have received their second dose [+1,658; +1,878] *Please note that today's testing and case numbers are still affected by a data flow issue at the Glasgow Lighthouse laboratory. The situation has been resolved but the backlog of results has impacted on newly reported cases and tests over the last couple of days and today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 If I keep on not publishing the trend stats every time there is a data issue, we'll never see them. So, with the proviso that the case-related stats won't be entirely accurate, here are the latest trend stats. I think it's important to show them since there are some significant outbreaks going on, particularly in the north east of the country. Hopefully any fans up at the game will only come back with a victory. 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct 25 Oct 24 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 336 N/A +24 312 N/A 319 323 322 ... 345 Clackmannanshire 4 651 N/A +95 556 N/A 599 567 583 ... 328 Orkney Islands 4 594 N/A +161 433 N/A 223 214 228 ... 85 Aberdeenshire 4 472 N/A +78 394 N/A 367 350 340 ... 339 Fife 4 423 N/A +18 405 N/A 416 413 418 ... 407 West Lothian 4 421 N/A +14 407 N/A 430 438 457 ... 504 North Lanarkshire 4 406 N/A -1 407 N/A 384 398 414 ... 442 Stirling 4 393 N/A +12 381 N/A 444 445 438 ... 366 East Ayrshire 4 387 N/A -9 396 N/A 428 439 466 ... 440 Dundee City 4 377 N/A +40 337 N/A 359 354 336 ... 427 Angus 4 375 N/A +46 329 N/A 305 306 314 ... 234 Argyll & Bute 4 371 N/A +57 314 N/A 295 332 315 ... 304 North Ayrshire 4 355 N/A +64 291 N/A 290 306 309 ... 441 Falkirk 4 341 N/A +11 330 N/A 363 388 403 ... 421 East Lothian 4 214 335 N/A -13 348 N/A 348 312 316 ... 265 Aberdeen City 4 334 N/A +65 269 N/A 275 263 251 ... 292 West Dunbartonshire 4 332 N/A -5 337 N/A 316 327 335 ... 437 Moray 4 327 N/A +54 273 N/A 271 270 279 ... 231 East Dunbartonshire 4 326 N/A +6 320 N/A 354 364 382 ... 382 South Lanarkshire 4 325 N/A +27 298 N/A 306 332 349 ... 382 Scottish Borders 4 317 N/A +40 277 N/A 299 325 336 ... 188 Highland 4 211 313 N/A +31 282 N/A 302 298 270 ... 168 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 309 N/A +52 257 N/A 249 257 287 ... 234 Dumfries & Galloway 4 303 N/A +31 272 N/A 291 283 277 ... 361 Midlothian 4 289 N/A +40 249 N/A 249 243 223 ... 327 Renfrewshire 4 289 N/A 0 289 N/A 294 299 291 ... 371 Perth & Kinross 4 288 N/A -32 320 N/A 330 338 310 ... 304 Edinburgh City 4 275 N/A +35 240 N/A 248 236 223 ... 238 South Ayrshire 4 274 N/A -2 276 N/A 290 302 298 ... 541 Inverclyde 4 271 N/A +10 261 N/A 304 296 276 ... 365 East Renfrewshire 4 267 N/A -8 275 N/A 284 310 324 ... 354 Glasgow City 4 224 N/A +2 222 N/A 236 246 243 ... 328 Shetland Islands 3 127 N/A +44 83 N/A 74 57 52 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct 25 Oct 24 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 31541 N/A +2374 29167 N/A 30185 30204 29784 ... 35457 Cases 2621 N/A +185 2436 N/A 2494 2522 2516 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 8.9 N/A 0.0 8.9 N/A 8.8 8.9 9.0 ... 8.2 Deaths 16 16 0 15 17 17 17 17 ... 19 All Vaccinations 4017 4198 -181 4204 4641 4810 4935 4845 ... 6572 1st Dose 1917 2071 -154 2168 2460 2612 2750 2791 ... 3705 2nd Dose 2100 2127 -27 2036 2181 2198 2185 2054 ... 2867 All in hospital 914 918 -4 910 908 902 895 889 ... 1009 Non-ICU 855 859 -4 851 849 844 839 835 ... 935 ICU 59 59 0 59 59 58 56 54 ... 74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, redjambo said: If I keep on not publishing the trend stats every time there is a data issue, we'll never see them. So, with the proviso that the case-related stats won't be entirely accurate, here are the latest trend stats. I think it's important to show them since there are some significant outbreaks going on, particularly in the north east of the country. Hopefully any fans up at the game will only come back with a victory. 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct 25 Oct 24 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 336 N/A +24 312 N/A 319 323 322 ... 345 Clackmannanshire 4 651 N/A +95 556 N/A 599 567 583 ... 328 Orkney Islands 4 594 N/A +161 433 N/A 223 214 228 ... 85 Aberdeenshire 4 472 N/A +78 394 N/A 367 350 340 ... 339 Fife 4 423 N/A +18 405 N/A 416 413 418 ... 407 West Lothian 4 421 N/A +14 407 N/A 430 438 457 ... 504 North Lanarkshire 4 406 N/A -1 407 N/A 384 398 414 ... 442 Stirling 4 393 N/A +12 381 N/A 444 445 438 ... 366 East Ayrshire 4 387 N/A -9 396 N/A 428 439 466 ... 440 Dundee City 4 377 N/A +40 337 N/A 359 354 336 ... 427 Angus 4 375 N/A +46 329 N/A 305 306 314 ... 234 Argyll & Bute 4 371 N/A +57 314 N/A 295 332 315 ... 304 North Ayrshire 4 355 N/A +64 291 N/A 290 306 309 ... 441 Falkirk 4 341 N/A +11 330 N/A 363 388 403 ... 421 East Lothian 4 214 335 N/A -13 348 N/A 348 312 316 ... 265 Aberdeen City 4 334 N/A +65 269 N/A 275 263 251 ... 292 West Dunbartonshire 4 332 N/A -5 337 N/A 316 327 335 ... 437 Moray 4 327 N/A +54 273 N/A 271 270 279 ... 231 East Dunbartonshire 4 326 N/A +6 320 N/A 354 364 382 ... 382 South Lanarkshire 4 325 N/A +27 298 N/A 306 332 349 ... 382 Scottish Borders 4 317 N/A +40 277 N/A 299 325 336 ... 188 Highland 4 211 313 N/A +31 282 N/A 302 298 270 ... 168 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 309 N/A +52 257 N/A 249 257 287 ... 234 Dumfries & Galloway 4 303 N/A +31 272 N/A 291 283 277 ... 361 Midlothian 4 289 N/A +40 249 N/A 249 243 223 ... 327 Renfrewshire 4 289 N/A 0 289 N/A 294 299 291 ... 371 Perth & Kinross 4 288 N/A -32 320 N/A 330 338 310 ... 304 Edinburgh City 4 275 N/A +35 240 N/A 248 236 223 ... 238 South Ayrshire 4 274 N/A -2 276 N/A 290 302 298 ... 541 Inverclyde 4 271 N/A +10 261 N/A 304 296 276 ... 365 East Renfrewshire 4 267 N/A -8 275 N/A 284 310 324 ... 354 Glasgow City 4 224 N/A +2 222 N/A 236 246 243 ... 328 Shetland Islands 3 127 N/A +44 83 N/A 74 57 52 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct 25 Oct 24 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 31541 N/A +2374 29167 N/A 30185 30204 29784 ... 35457 Cases 2621 N/A +185 2436 N/A 2494 2522 2516 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 8.9 N/A 0.0 8.9 N/A 8.8 8.9 9.0 ... 8.2 Deaths 16 16 0 15 17 17 17 17 ... 19 All Vaccinations 4017 4198 -181 4204 4641 4810 4935 4845 ... 6572 1st Dose 1917 2071 -154 2168 2460 2612 2750 2791 ... 3705 2nd Dose 2100 2127 -27 2036 2181 2198 2185 2054 ... 2867 All in hospital 914 918 -4 910 908 902 895 889 ... 1009 Non-ICU 855 859 -4 851 849 844 839 835 ... 935 ICU 59 59 0 59 59 58 56 54 ... 74 👍🍺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 There's an elderly relative who has had no invitation for a booster so I decided today to get it sorted out for them. Called the number, specifically said it was about booster, was told there was a cancelled appointment in the system, I said there was no notification of it, advised to register online and reschedule. Great. Did all that and booked an appointment fairly nearby. Since doing that, a couple of things bugged me as they weren't making sense so I looked into and called again re the appointment I made and it turns out to be a flu vaccination appointment. I've been told that the person might or might not get the flu and booster together, but maybe not. It's a small venue so I'm not relying on them even having booster stock. I've booked them for the Highland Centre now as they'll definitely have boosters. Farcical doesn't touch the sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 @robertjwest · 14h Just a reminder to people who think dying from COVID is fine because we all have to die some time, each death is an average of 10 years earlier than it would have been. And of course the deaths are the tip of a huge iceberg of illness and disability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I have now discovered that 6 month eligible people can go to the Highland Centre on a walk-in basis without appointment for the booster. A neighbour did this. Telling people about stuff like this might come in handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, Victorian said: I have now discovered that 6 month eligible people can go to the Highland Centre on a walk-in basis without appointment for the booster. A neighbour did this. Telling people about stuff like this might come in handy. Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogz Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, Victorian said: I have now discovered that 6 month eligible people can go to the Highland Centre on a walk-in basis without appointment for the booster. A neighbour did this. Telling people about stuff like this might come in handy. I could be completely wrong (as this hasn't been widely publicised as far as I can see) but I think the vaccination centre is closed for the next 4 days: apparently related to COP26.... Although I can't see how one thing relates to the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Thanks for that. I meant officials and guidance telling people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Doogz said: I could be completely wrong (as this hasn't been widely publicised as far as I can see) but I think the vaccination centre is closed for the next 4 days: apparently related to COP26.... Although I can't see how one thing relates to the other. Appointment in 5 days time. I'll keep an eye on that though. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Doogz said: I could be completely wrong (as this hasn't been widely publicised as far as I can see) but I think the vaccination centre is closed for the next 4 days: apparently related to COP26.... Although I can't see how one thing relates to the other. PLEASE NOTE THAT LOWLAND HALL AND PYRAMIDS BUSINESS PARK ARE CLOSED FROM 31/10 TO 03/11 (INCLUSIVE) TO ACCOMMODATE COP26. These are the vaccination clinics in Lothian that are welcoming drop-ins today. Unless it is specified that the clinic welcomes 12-15 year olds, it is only able to welcome those over 16. Pfizer, AstraZeneca and Moderna are available at all clinics. At this moment, only the Lothian Buses vaccination unit can administer third doses on a drop-in basis, and you need to bring your official invite letter. No drop-in clinics can administer boosters at this time. 📍 Pyramids Business Park, 0800 - 1900 - also welcomes 12-15 year olds 📍 Lowland Hall, 0800 - 1900 - also welcomes 12-15 year olds 📍 Gorebridge Vaccination Centre, 0800 - 1900 📍 East Lothian Community Hospital, 0900 - 1500 📍 The Lothian Buses mobile vaccination unit will be at George Square, University of Edinburgh, 1000 - 1700, and is open to all (further eligibility information can be found at the link below) A list of all vaccination centres, including directions, can be found on our website, https://www.nhslothian.scot/Coronavirus/Vaccine/Pages/Drop-in-Clinics.aspx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, NANOJAMBO said: @robertjwest · 14h Just a reminder to people who think dying from COVID is fine because we all have to die some time, each death is an average of 10 years earlier than it would have been. And of course the deaths are the tip of a huge iceberg of illness and disability. any correspondence which infers that anyone thinks dying (of anything) is “fine” is where I’d normally stop reading In this case I managed past that - was widely reported (albeit in the past) that the average age of death was 81-82 which is unlikely to tie-in with 10 further years lost did you give these numbers a think over/some kind of check or is it just a copy/paste ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Scottish numbers: 31 October 2021 Summary 2,513 new cases of COVID-19 reported* [-1,354; down from 2,528 a week ago] 27,809 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results* [-15,926] 9.6% of these were positive* [=] 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends) [-20] 64 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-1] 910 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-16] 4,317,601 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,907,056 have received their second dose [+1,799; +1,879] *The backlog of results being processed at the Glasgow Lighthouse laboratory, which impacted on newly reported cases and tests over the last couple of days, has now been cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: any correspondence which infers that anyone thinks dying (of anything) is “fine” is where I’d normally stop reading In this case I managed past that - was widely reported (albeit in the past) that the average age of death was 81-82 which is unlikely to tie-in with 10 further years lost did you give these numbers a think over/some kind of check or is it just a copy/paste ? The tweet comes from an emeritus professor of health so your sarcasm makes no difference to me. Re your 81-82 reference : apparently most people making it to the age of 80 can expect to reach 90. So even they have lost out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct 25 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 335 336 -1 N/A 312 N/A 319 323 ... 345 Clackmannanshire 4 643 651 -8 N/A 556 N/A 599 567 ... 328 Orkney Islands 4 554 594 -40 N/A 433 N/A 223 214 ... 85 Aberdeenshire 4 464 472 -8 N/A 394 N/A 367 350 ... 339 West Lothian 4 427 421 +6 N/A 407 N/A 430 438 ... 504 Fife 4 412 423 -11 N/A 405 N/A 416 413 ... 407 North Lanarkshire 4 400 406 -6 N/A 407 N/A 384 398 ... 442 Argyll & Bute 4 383 371 +12 N/A 314 N/A 295 332 ... 304 East Ayrshire 4 382 387 -5 N/A 396 N/A 428 439 ... 440 Dundee City 4 381 377 +4 N/A 337 N/A 359 354 ... 427 Angus 4 375 375 0 N/A 329 N/A 305 306 ... 234 Stirling 4 369 393 -24 N/A 381 N/A 444 445 ... 366 Aberdeen City 4 347 334 +13 N/A 269 N/A 275 263 ... 292 Scottish Borders 4 347 317 +30 N/A 277 N/A 299 325 ... 188 North Ayrshire 4 346 355 -9 N/A 291 N/A 290 306 ... 441 South Lanarkshire 4 337 325 +12 N/A 298 N/A 306 332 ... 382 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 336 309 +27 N/A 257 N/A 249 257 ... 234 Falkirk 4 333 341 -8 N/A 330 N/A 363 388 ... 421 East Dunbartonshire 4 327 326 +1 N/A 320 N/A 354 364 ... 382 Midlothian 4 327 289 +38 N/A 249 N/A 249 243 ... 327 East Lothian 4 214 322 335 -13 N/A 348 N/A 348 312 ... 265 Highland 4 211 316 313 +3 N/A 282 N/A 302 298 ... 168 Dumfries & Galloway 4 310 303 +7 N/A 272 N/A 291 283 ... 361 West Dunbartonshire 4 307 332 -25 N/A 337 N/A 316 327 ... 437 Moray 4 299 327 -28 N/A 273 N/A 271 270 ... 231 Renfrewshire 4 290 289 +1 N/A 289 N/A 294 299 ... 371 South Ayrshire 4 284 274 +10 N/A 276 N/A 290 302 ... 541 Edinburgh City 4 277 275 +2 N/A 240 N/A 248 236 ... 238 Inverclyde 4 274 271 +3 N/A 261 N/A 304 296 ... 365 Perth & Kinross 4 269 288 -19 N/A 320 N/A 330 338 ... 304 East Renfrewshire 4 259 267 -8 N/A 275 N/A 284 310 ... 354 Glasgow City 4 225 224 +1 N/A 222 N/A 236 246 ... 328 Shetland Islands 4 157 127 +30 N/A 83 N/A 74 57 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct 25 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 31684 31541 +143 N/A 29167 N/A 30185 30204 ... 35457 Cases 2619 2621 -2 N/A 2436 N/A 2494 2522 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 8.9 8.9 0.0 N/A 8.9 N/A 8.8 8.9 ... 8.2 Deaths 16 16 0 16 15 17 17 17 ... 19 All Vaccinations 3836 4017 -181 4198 4204 4641 4810 4935 ... 6572 1st Dose 1717 1917 -200 2071 2168 2460 2612 2750 ... 3705 2nd Dose 2119 2100 +19 2127 2036 2181 2198 2185 ... 2867 All in hospital 920 914 +6 918 910 908 902 895 ... 1009 Non-ICU 860 855 +5 859 851 849 844 839 ... 935 ICU 60 59 +1 59 59 59 58 56 ... 74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 53 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: any correspondence which infers that anyone thinks dying (of anything) is “fine” is where I’d normally stop reading In this case I managed past that - was widely reported (albeit in the past) that the average age of death was 81-82 which is unlikely to tie-in with 10 further years lost did you give these numbers a think over/some kind of check or is it just a copy/paste ? Try this calculator so see how long you might live having reached at any given age. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthandlifeexpectancies/articles/lifeexpectancycalculator/2019-06-07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: I agree. May I say good on you sir for sorting things out for your elderly relative. One weird and quite galling thing is that, when you go through the pages to reschedule an appointment, you highlight the 'flu vaccine or booster' option. After that there is no further option to manage one or the other. Only any appointment in the system. The appointment had been rescheduled by the helpline person to a staff only venue and had to be rescheduled again. It displays as 'autumn/winter' vaccination. It didn't draw my eye until later that this probably meant a flu vaccine appointment, which it does as it happens. The next helpline operator could only make vague comments about how these appointments might be flu+booster, should well be flu+booster. But no definites. Further info on this page suggests that Ingliston is not a drop-in centre for boosters, yet I was led to believe a neighbour had done this. It turns out the neighbour had their two cv vaccines there and were supposedly told (in April) to come back after 6 months for a booster. This is horseshit because the 6 month booster schedule was nowhere near confirmed back then. The neighbour is either making it up or has gone on spec and been accomodated. Supposedly no letter but info on here suggests you need to have a letter to go there. I'm just going with what's arranged for now. If this person gets the runaround and is turned away then I'm going ****ing tonto about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: The tweet comes from an emeritus professor of health so your sarcasm makes no difference to me. Re your 81-82 reference : apparently most people making it to the age of 80 can expect to reach 90. So even they have lost out. Not sure where you are perceiving sarcasm - just a statement and civil question so this professor uses the inference that people think it’s “fine” when people die - personally I would trying another professor for information but that’s a free choice of course reading between the lines as you hold the tweeter in some level of esteem it’s a copy and paste [I’d also be very pleasantly surprised if your “apparently. . statement for most people of those ages were true Edited October 31, 2021 by MoncurMacdonaldMercer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 39 minutes ago, redjambo said: 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct 25 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 335 336 -1 N/A 312 N/A 319 323 ... 345 Clackmannanshire 4 643 651 -8 N/A 556 N/A 599 567 ... 328 Orkney Islands 4 554 594 -40 N/A 433 N/A 223 214 ... 85 Aberdeenshire 4 464 472 -8 N/A 394 N/A 367 350 ... 339 West Lothian 4 427 421 +6 N/A 407 N/A 430 438 ... 504 Fife 4 412 423 -11 N/A 405 N/A 416 413 ... 407 North Lanarkshire 4 400 406 -6 N/A 407 N/A 384 398 ... 442 Argyll & Bute 4 383 371 +12 N/A 314 N/A 295 332 ... 304 East Ayrshire 4 382 387 -5 N/A 396 N/A 428 439 ... 440 Dundee City 4 381 377 +4 N/A 337 N/A 359 354 ... 427 Angus 4 375 375 0 N/A 329 N/A 305 306 ... 234 Stirling 4 369 393 -24 N/A 381 N/A 444 445 ... 366 Aberdeen City 4 347 334 +13 N/A 269 N/A 275 263 ... 292 Scottish Borders 4 347 317 +30 N/A 277 N/A 299 325 ... 188 North Ayrshire 4 346 355 -9 N/A 291 N/A 290 306 ... 441 South Lanarkshire 4 337 325 +12 N/A 298 N/A 306 332 ... 382 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 336 309 +27 N/A 257 N/A 249 257 ... 234 Falkirk 4 333 341 -8 N/A 330 N/A 363 388 ... 421 East Dunbartonshire 4 327 326 +1 N/A 320 N/A 354 364 ... 382 Midlothian 4 327 289 +38 N/A 249 N/A 249 243 ... 327 East Lothian 4 214 322 335 -13 N/A 348 N/A 348 312 ... 265 Highland 4 211 316 313 +3 N/A 282 N/A 302 298 ... 168 Dumfries & Galloway 4 310 303 +7 N/A 272 N/A 291 283 ... 361 West Dunbartonshire 4 307 332 -25 N/A 337 N/A 316 327 ... 437 Moray 4 299 327 -28 N/A 273 N/A 271 270 ... 231 Renfrewshire 4 290 289 +1 N/A 289 N/A 294 299 ... 371 South Ayrshire 4 284 274 +10 N/A 276 N/A 290 302 ... 541 Edinburgh City 4 277 275 +2 N/A 240 N/A 248 236 ... 238 Inverclyde 4 274 271 +3 N/A 261 N/A 304 296 ... 365 Perth & Kinross 4 269 288 -19 N/A 320 N/A 330 338 ... 304 East Renfrewshire 4 259 267 -8 N/A 275 N/A 284 310 ... 354 Glasgow City 4 225 224 +1 N/A 222 N/A 236 246 ... 328 Shetland Islands 4 157 127 +30 N/A 83 N/A 74 57 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct 25 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 31684 31541 +143 N/A 29167 N/A 30185 30204 ... 35457 Cases 2619 2621 -2 N/A 2436 N/A 2494 2522 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 8.9 8.9 0.0 N/A 8.9 N/A 8.8 8.9 ... 8.2 Deaths 16 16 0 16 15 17 17 17 ... 19 All Vaccinations 3836 4017 -181 4198 4204 4641 4810 4935 ... 6572 1st Dose 1717 1917 -200 2071 2168 2460 2612 2750 ... 3705 2nd Dose 2119 2100 +19 2127 2036 2181 2198 2185 ... 2867 All in hospital 920 914 +6 918 910 908 902 895 ... 1009 Non-ICU 860 855 +5 859 851 849 844 839 ... 935 ICU 60 59 +1 59 59 59 58 56 ... 74 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Try this calculator so see how long you might live having reached at any given age. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthandlifeexpectancies/articles/lifeexpectancycalculator/2019-06-07 In the context of covid I would think that caclculator would be very generic i only had a 2-minute look but I’m assuming (so obviously could be wrong) that the assumptions underlying that calculator are very generic even the oldies who are unfortunately dying of covid tend to have co-morbidittes so would likely (relatively speaking -significantly) ‘under-perform’ that calculator that said 10 days or 10 years relatively speaking it is a sad event - my question purely around the validity and appropriateness of the original post (and the calculator - albeit I realise you didn’t say it was appropriate to judge future life years with respect to those most at risk of very bad covid outcomes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 55 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: Not sure where you are perceiving sarcasm - just a statement and civil question so this professor uses the inference that people think it’s “fine” when people die - personally I would trying another professor for information but that’s a free choice of course reading between the lines as you hold the tweeter in some level of esteem it’s a copy and paste wrong [I’d also be very pleasantly surprised if your “apparently. . statement for most people of those ages were true Honestly , I "just" can't be arsed with your attitude. I'll leave you to your assumptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I don't get the argument about expected life expectancy etc. It can go down, in the same way it's gone up recently. People dying of Covid are 'losing' 10 years of life against a baseline that doesn't include a Coronavirus pandemic...but there is a Coronavirus pandemic so it's a bit of a moot point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 48 minutes ago, Taffin said: I don't get the argument about expected life expectancy etc. It can go down, in the same way it's gone up recently. People dying of Covid are 'losing' 10 years of life against a baseline that doesn't include a Coronavirus pandemic...but there is a Coronavirus pandemic so it's a bit of a moot point. the life expectancy debate is one often used by anti-lockdowners / some cancer doctors on the tele etc their point being that sad that losing an extra 5-6 months/years undoubtedly is those presenting late with cancer may still get important treatment which could extend their lives 10 years whereas priority treatment may have extended it 30 years - younger people ‘losing’ more years of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: the life expectancy debate is one often used by anti-lockdowners / some cancer doctors on the tele etc their point being that sad that losing an extra 5-6 months/years undoubtedly is those presenting late with cancer may still get important treatment which could extend their lives 10 years whereas priority treatment may have extended it 30 years - younger people ‘losing’ more years of life I get it from that angle a bit as someone dying young is quite evidently premature. I don't get the flip side of the argument though, for example the post above about if you hit 80, you're expected to make it to 90. That's true, until, well it's not...which dying from Covid would obviously make it untrue. It need to be adapted for the threats to life that exist, when a new one arrives, you need to adapt the expectation to reflect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Taffin said: I get it from that angle a bit as someone dying young is quite evidently premature. I don't get the flip side of the argument though, for example the post above about if you hit 80, you're expected to make it to 90. That's true, until, well it's not...which dying from Covid would obviously make it untrue. It need to be adapted for the threats to life that exist, when a new one arrives, you need to adapt the expectation to reflect it. yeah I agree with that too - comparing a situation including something as deadly as covid against one which doesn’t include it isn’t like same hopefully with the vaccines and hopefully the virus will weaken a bit and the picture will return to closer to what it was even with restrictions-associated fallout too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Scottish numbers: 1 November 2021 Summary 2,065 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-448; down from 2,240 a week ago] 20,414 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-7,395] 10.8% of these were positive [+1.2%] 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are generally closed at the weekend) [=] 68 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+4] 931 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+21] 4,318,783 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,908,244 have received their second dose [+1,182; +1,188] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 The latest trend stats: 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 30 Oct 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 332 335 -3 336 N/A 312 N/A 319 ... 345 Clackmannanshire 4 628 643 -15 651 N/A 556 N/A 599 ... 328 Orkney Islands 4 607 554 +53 594 N/A 433 N/A 223 ... 85 Aberdeenshire 4 468 464 +4 472 N/A 394 N/A 367 ... 339 West Lothian 4 453 427 +26 421 N/A 407 N/A 430 ... 504 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 396 336 +60 309 N/A 257 N/A 249 ... 234 East Ayrshire 4 394 382 +12 387 N/A 396 N/A 428 ... 440 North Lanarkshire 4 392 400 -8 406 N/A 407 N/A 384 ... 442 Fife 4 391 412 -21 423 N/A 405 N/A 416 ... 407 Angus 4 387 375 +12 375 N/A 329 N/A 305 ... 234 Argyll & Bute 4 386 383 +3 371 N/A 314 N/A 295 ... 304 Dundee City 4 364 381 -17 377 N/A 337 N/A 359 ... 427 South Lanarkshire 4 348 337 +11 325 N/A 298 N/A 306 ... 382 East Dunbartonshire 4 344 327 +17 326 N/A 320 N/A 354 ... 382 Scottish Borders 4 344 347 -3 317 N/A 277 N/A 299 ... 188 Aberdeen City 4 343 347 -4 334 N/A 269 N/A 275 ... 292 Stirling 4 343 369 -26 393 N/A 381 N/A 444 ... 366 North Ayrshire 4 337 346 -9 355 N/A 291 N/A 290 ... 441 Midlothian 4 329 327 +2 289 N/A 249 N/A 249 ... 327 Dumfries & Galloway 4 326 310 +16 303 N/A 272 N/A 291 ... 361 East Lothian 4 214 326 322 +4 335 N/A 348 N/A 348 ... 265 Falkirk 4 326 333 -7 341 N/A 330 N/A 363 ... 421 Moray 4 322 299 +23 327 N/A 273 N/A 271 ... 231 Highland 4 211 318 316 +2 313 N/A 282 N/A 302 ... 168 West Dunbartonshire 4 316 307 +9 332 N/A 337 N/A 316 ... 437 South Ayrshire 4 283 284 -1 274 N/A 276 N/A 290 ... 541 Edinburgh City 4 264 277 -13 275 N/A 240 N/A 248 ... 238 Inverclyde 4 263 274 -11 271 N/A 261 N/A 304 ... 365 Renfrewshire 4 262 290 -28 289 N/A 289 N/A 294 ... 371 East Renfrewshire 4 243 259 -16 267 N/A 275 N/A 284 ... 354 Perth & Kinross 4 238 269 -31 288 N/A 320 N/A 330 ... 304 Glasgow City 4 219 225 -6 224 N/A 222 N/A 236 ... 328 Shetland Islands 4 171 157 +14 127 N/A 83 N/A 74 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 30 Oct 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 31307 31684 -377 31541 N/A 29167 N/A 30185 ... 35457 Cases 2594 2619 -25 2621 N/A 2436 N/A 2494 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 8.9 8.9 0.0 8.9 N/A 8.9 N/A 8.8 ... 8.2 Deaths 16 16 0 16 16 15 17 17 ... 19 All Vaccinations 3345 3836 -491 4017 4198 4204 4641 4810 ... 6572 1st Dose 1487 1717 -230 1917 2071 2168 2460 2612 ... 3705 2nd Dose 1858 2119 -261 2100 2127 2036 2181 2198 ... 2867 All in hospital 924 920 +4 914 918 910 908 902 ... 1009 Non-ICU 862 860 +2 855 859 851 849 844 ... 935 ICU 62 60 +2 59 59 59 59 58 ... 74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Bit of stability after possible signs of an uptick. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, redjambo said: The latest trend stats: 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 30 Oct 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 332 335 -3 336 N/A 312 N/A 319 ... 345 Clackmannanshire 4 628 643 -15 651 N/A 556 N/A 599 ... 328 Orkney Islands 4 607 554 +53 594 N/A 433 N/A 223 ... 85 Aberdeenshire 4 468 464 +4 472 N/A 394 N/A 367 ... 339 West Lothian 4 453 427 +26 421 N/A 407 N/A 430 ... 504 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 396 336 +60 309 N/A 257 N/A 249 ... 234 East Ayrshire 4 394 382 +12 387 N/A 396 N/A 428 ... 440 North Lanarkshire 4 392 400 -8 406 N/A 407 N/A 384 ... 442 Fife 4 391 412 -21 423 N/A 405 N/A 416 ... 407 Angus 4 387 375 +12 375 N/A 329 N/A 305 ... 234 Argyll & Bute 4 386 383 +3 371 N/A 314 N/A 295 ... 304 Dundee City 4 364 381 -17 377 N/A 337 N/A 359 ... 427 South Lanarkshire 4 348 337 +11 325 N/A 298 N/A 306 ... 382 East Dunbartonshire 4 344 327 +17 326 N/A 320 N/A 354 ... 382 Scottish Borders 4 344 347 -3 317 N/A 277 N/A 299 ... 188 Aberdeen City 4 343 347 -4 334 N/A 269 N/A 275 ... 292 Stirling 4 343 369 -26 393 N/A 381 N/A 444 ... 366 North Ayrshire 4 337 346 -9 355 N/A 291 N/A 290 ... 441 Midlothian 4 329 327 +2 289 N/A 249 N/A 249 ... 327 Dumfries & Galloway 4 326 310 +16 303 N/A 272 N/A 291 ... 361 East Lothian 4 214 326 322 +4 335 N/A 348 N/A 348 ... 265 Falkirk 4 326 333 -7 341 N/A 330 N/A 363 ... 421 Moray 4 322 299 +23 327 N/A 273 N/A 271 ... 231 Highland 4 211 318 316 +2 313 N/A 282 N/A 302 ... 168 West Dunbartonshire 4 316 307 +9 332 N/A 337 N/A 316 ... 437 South Ayrshire 4 283 284 -1 274 N/A 276 N/A 290 ... 541 Edinburgh City 4 264 277 -13 275 N/A 240 N/A 248 ... 238 Inverclyde 4 263 274 -11 271 N/A 261 N/A 304 ... 365 Renfrewshire 4 262 290 -28 289 N/A 289 N/A 294 ... 371 East Renfrewshire 4 243 259 -16 267 N/A 275 N/A 284 ... 354 Perth & Kinross 4 238 269 -31 288 N/A 320 N/A 330 ... 304 Glasgow City 4 219 225 -6 224 N/A 222 N/A 236 ... 328 Shetland Islands 4 171 157 +14 127 N/A 83 N/A 74 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 30 Oct 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 31307 31684 -377 31541 N/A 29167 N/A 30185 ... 35457 Cases 2594 2619 -25 2621 N/A 2436 N/A 2494 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 8.9 8.9 0.0 8.9 N/A 8.9 N/A 8.8 ... 8.2 Deaths 16 16 0 16 16 15 17 17 ... 19 All Vaccinations 3345 3836 -491 4017 4198 4204 4641 4810 ... 6572 1st Dose 1487 1717 -230 1917 2071 2168 2460 2612 ... 3705 2nd Dose 1858 2119 -261 2100 2127 2036 2181 2198 ... 2867 All in hospital 924 920 +4 914 918 910 908 902 ... 1009 Non-ICU 862 860 +2 855 859 851 849 844 ... 935 ICU 62 60 +2 59 59 59 59 58 ... 74 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/self-isolating-scots-headteacher-caught-25343528 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, redjambo said: The latest trend stats: 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 30 Oct 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 332 335 -3 336 N/A 312 N/A 319 ... 345 Clackmannanshire 4 628 643 -15 651 N/A 556 N/A 599 ... 328 Orkney Islands 4 607 554 +53 594 N/A 433 N/A 223 ... 85 Aberdeenshire 4 468 464 +4 472 N/A 394 N/A 367 ... 339 West Lothian 4 453 427 +26 421 N/A 407 N/A 430 ... 504 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 396 336 +60 309 N/A 257 N/A 249 ... 234 East Ayrshire 4 394 382 +12 387 N/A 396 N/A 428 ... 440 North Lanarkshire 4 392 400 -8 406 N/A 407 N/A 384 ... 442 Fife 4 391 412 -21 423 N/A 405 N/A 416 ... 407 Angus 4 387 375 +12 375 N/A 329 N/A 305 ... 234 Argyll & Bute 4 386 383 +3 371 N/A 314 N/A 295 ... 304 Dundee City 4 364 381 -17 377 N/A 337 N/A 359 ... 427 South Lanarkshire 4 348 337 +11 325 N/A 298 N/A 306 ... 382 East Dunbartonshire 4 344 327 +17 326 N/A 320 N/A 354 ... 382 Scottish Borders 4 344 347 -3 317 N/A 277 N/A 299 ... 188 Aberdeen City 4 343 347 -4 334 N/A 269 N/A 275 ... 292 Stirling 4 343 369 -26 393 N/A 381 N/A 444 ... 366 North Ayrshire 4 337 346 -9 355 N/A 291 N/A 290 ... 441 Midlothian 4 329 327 +2 289 N/A 249 N/A 249 ... 327 Dumfries & Galloway 4 326 310 +16 303 N/A 272 N/A 291 ... 361 East Lothian 4 214 326 322 +4 335 N/A 348 N/A 348 ... 265 Falkirk 4 326 333 -7 341 N/A 330 N/A 363 ... 421 Moray 4 322 299 +23 327 N/A 273 N/A 271 ... 231 Highland 4 211 318 316 +2 313 N/A 282 N/A 302 ... 168 West Dunbartonshire 4 316 307 +9 332 N/A 337 N/A 316 ... 437 South Ayrshire 4 283 284 -1 274 N/A 276 N/A 290 ... 541 Edinburgh City 4 264 277 -13 275 N/A 240 N/A 248 ... 238 Inverclyde 4 263 274 -11 271 N/A 261 N/A 304 ... 365 Renfrewshire 4 262 290 -28 289 N/A 289 N/A 294 ... 371 East Renfrewshire 4 243 259 -16 267 N/A 275 N/A 284 ... 354 Perth & Kinross 4 238 269 -31 288 N/A 320 N/A 330 ... 304 Glasgow City 4 219 225 -6 224 N/A 222 N/A 236 ... 328 Shetland Islands 4 171 157 +14 127 N/A 83 N/A 74 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 30 Oct 29 Oct 28 Oct 27 Oct 26 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 31307 31684 -377 31541 N/A 29167 N/A 30185 ... 35457 Cases 2594 2619 -25 2621 N/A 2436 N/A 2494 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 8.9 8.9 0.0 8.9 N/A 8.9 N/A 8.8 ... 8.2 Deaths 16 16 0 16 16 15 17 17 ... 19 All Vaccinations 3345 3836 -491 4017 4198 4204 4641 4810 ... 6572 1st Dose 1487 1717 -230 1917 2071 2168 2460 2612 ... 3705 2nd Dose 1858 2119 -261 2100 2127 2036 2181 2198 ... 2867 All in hospital 924 920 +4 914 918 910 908 902 ... 1009 Non-ICU 862 860 +2 855 859 851 849 844 ... 935 ICU 62 60 +2 59 59 59 59 58 ... 74 Renfrewshire and East Renfrewshire nearly there. But after Cop26, we'll be back at the top. 😢 has happened on Orkney, and are that many people on Orkney. Edited November 2, 2021 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Renfrewshire and East Renfrewshire nearly there. But after Cop26, we'll be back at the top. 😢 has happened on Orkney, and are that many people on Orkney. Renfrewshire and Glasgow near the bottom, Orkney and the Western Isles near the top. The world's gone crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, redjambo said: Renfrewshire and Glasgow near the bottom, Orkney and the Western Isles near the top. The world's gone crazy. Any reasoning to the islands. Is it because it was missed in the first few waves, and now we're open it's said Hello. Scotland on a whole missed the first couple of waves and now it's open the rest are getting it . Vaccine tho a god send, isn't what I thought it be. Sorry, structure isn't my thing, I think about something, and just type, when it comes to me. Edited November 2, 2021 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Any reasoning to the islands. Is it because it was missed in the first few waves, and now we're open it's said Hello. Scotland on a whole missed the first couple of waves and now it's open the rest are getting it . Vaccine tho a god send, isn't what I thought it be. Sorry, structure isn't my thing, I think about something, and just type, when it comes to me. Yup, it may well be the case that the islands have been largely resilient so far, so now that we're all relaxing they are ripe territory for transmission. But, I have no real idea, my guess is as good as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 My daughter and her boyfriend both got their first jag together at a walk in thing at the gyle. They have booked a holiday and have concert tickets arranged so went yesterday to get their second. There is no record of either of them having had their jag. What a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: My daughter and her boyfriend both got their first jag together at a walk in thing at the gyle. They have booked a holiday and have concert tickets arranged so went yesterday to get their second. There is no record of either of them having had their jag. What a shambles. A record of them should be on the App. I stress should be. It is a shambles considering the initial jags for people went reasonably well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Victorian said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/self-isolating-scots-headteacher-caught-25343528 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: A record of them should be on the App. I stress should be. It is a shambles considering the initial jags for people went reasonably well. Nope no record. They gave the date, location and approx time they both went and had the first but no record at all. They are waiting to hear back but were told they are not the only ones with this issue. If there is genuinely no record and details of vaccines have been lost then what is the solution? Do they have to start again and potentially have 3? Do they take their word for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Nope no record. They gave the date, location and approx time they both went and had the first but no record at all. They are waiting to hear back but were told they are not the only ones with this issue. If there is genuinely no record and details of vaccines have been lost then what is the solution? Do they have to start again and potentially have 3? Do they take their word for it? Don't think they will if travelling out with the UK. Vaccine proof is a big thing in Europe still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Don't think they will if travelling out with the UK. Vaccine proof is a big thing in Europe still... I know but how do they now get the passport? Will they need to start again which means they will lose their holiday and concert tickets? What is the implications of giving 3 doses rather than 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Ron Burgundy said: I know but how do they now get the passport? Will they need to start again which means they will lose their holiday and concert tickets? What is the implications of giving 3 doses rather than 2? In terms of three doses, I had two AZ over 6 months ago and a Pfizer last week, so I hope all is good on that score (check timings though)! Reckon they will have to get on the phone with NHS Scotland and find someone to advise wrt the passport issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Nope no record. They gave the date, location and approx time they both went and had the first but no record at all. They are waiting to hear back but were told they are not the only ones with this issue. If there is genuinely no record and details of vaccines have been lost then what is the solution? Do they have to start again and potentially have 3? Do they take their word for it? That's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) That's horrendous. You would expect some details to have been computer entered to accompany any vaccination given. Some kind of data glitch or maybe details entered against the wrong records or maybe a duplicate record. There are duplicate CHI numbered medical records as it happens. Edited November 2, 2021 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 If it is some kind of duplication of CHI records, you can contact your GP to investigate and escalate it within their data management and possibly within the health board, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Victorian said: That's horrendous. You would expect some details to have been computer entered to accompany any vaccination given. Some kind of data glitch or maybe details entered against the wrong records or maybe a duplicate record. There are duplicate CHI numbered medical records as it happens. I had the same. Did a walk in at Kirkcaldy and nhs inform didn't show it after 2 weeks. Went to my doctor and they checked and had the details of my jag. Couple of days later my jag showed up on nhs inform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, XB52 said: I had the same. Did a walk in at Kirkcaldy and nhs inform didn't show it after 2 weeks. Went to my doctor and they checked and had the details of my jag. Couple of days later my jag showed up on nhs inform I've heard about such delays so that would be better. But there is a known issue with CHI numbers. The number on my vaccine invitation is different to the one my GP once provided me with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 hours ago, redjambo said: Yup, it may well be the case that the islands have been largely resilient so far, so now that we're all relaxing they are ripe territory for transmission. But, I have no real idea, my guess is as good as yours. Could they be lacking in herd immunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Could they be lacking in herd immunity? “ shush we don’t use that term in these parts sunny “ ( say it in a thick Cornwall accent ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Could they be lacking in herd immunity? Their immunity acquired from vaccinations would be no different to other regions, assuming the same level of vaccination coverage. Population vaccinated = vast majority protected from acute illness and protection from infection enhanced = same 'herd immunity' as others. Any difference will be related to infections of Delta or other variants. It's an interesting idea that some regions may already have a significant reservoir of 'immunity' against Delta, compared to a more isolated area. It would be useful if they had a good antibody assay specifically for Delta so that areas of low and high incidence could be compared in antibody surveillance. Edited November 2, 2021 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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