Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Don Dan]

Gina currying favour with HandCOCK to win lucrative contracts. Nothing to see here move along. 

[milky_26]

Just now, jonesy said:

Good to see well-paid staff willing to TAKE the extra mile (or is it few inches) for their client.

ftfy

[Ray Gin]

3 hours ago, redjambo said:

Figures may be low today due to reporting problem (see below).

 

Scottish numbers: 25 June 2021

Summary

• 1,747 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-1,252; up from 950 a week ago]
• 26,794 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-14,158]
  • 6.9% of these were positive [-0.8%]
• 2 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-3]
• 16 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-1]
• 188 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+11]
• 3,709,801 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,647,397 have received their second dose [+14,498; +15,864]

Public Health Scotland (PHS) are investigating a potential delay in laboratory processing of specimens in the Lighthouse labs, which resulted in specimen numbers being lower than might otherwise been expected by an estimated 800-1,110 cases based on historical reporting patterns.

 

Hospital numbers steadily creeping up. Given that they lag a week or two behind cases we can probably expect that to be nearing 400 soon after the big cases spike in the past week. Hopefully remaining much lower than previous waves and with patients getting back out fairly quickly instead of ending up in ICU. 🤞

Edited June 25, 2021 by Ray Gin

[Nucky Thompson]

3 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Make sure and spread your PHM variant about, Nucky. 👍

The Gorgie born and bred, Tynecastle High school variant 

[Shanks said no]

For at least the 7th day in a row the number of vaccines received has dropped. Is there an issue with the programme?

[The Real Maroonblood]

7 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

Aye,  you!

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

 

 

 

Bunch of racist xenophobe's imo.

 

Probably massive nonces too.

[Unknown user]

1 hour ago, HartleyLegend3 said:

 

Is it just me or does Lizzie's reply read like an M&S ad?

Edited June 25, 2021 by Smithee

[Footballfirst]

7 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

For at least the 7th day in a row the number of vaccines received has dropped. Is there an issue with the programme?

The number of vaccines allocated to Scotland in the week to 21 June was 116,550, which is the lowest number since 5 April when the SG indicated that there was going to be a significant drop.

 

The other issue is how vaccines are split by suppliers.  There is a need for AZ to give 2nd doses to over 40s, but a greater need just now for Pfizer and Moderna for the under 40s.

 

Scotland has been vaccinating people at a similar rate to the rUK.

Edited June 25, 2021 by Footballfirst

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 hours ago, redjambo said:

With the proviso that the case figures may well be understated (see the note in the above post), here are today's trend stats:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	WHO	Today	Yesterday			23 Jun	22 Jun	21 Jun	20 Jun	19 Jun	...	1 May
Scotland			248	233	+15		203	169	147	138	135	...	22
Dundee City	2	4	517	470	+47		419	334	301	298	325	...	13
East Lothian	1	4	501	489	+12		408	316	225	216	186	...	5
Midlothian	2	4	427	388	+39		334	238	176	176	161	...	10
Edinburgh City	2	4	409	408	+1		342	285	248	227	220	...	27
West Dunbartonshire	1	4	345	313	+32		270	224	192	169	141	...	28
East Ayrshire	2	4	328	321	+7		299	244	229	211	210	...	45
East Dunbartonshire	2	4	297	265	+32		237	226	211	200	181	...	51
Renfrewshire	2	4	272	247	+25		215	175	143	146	154	...	20
East Renfrewshire	2	4	271	242	+29		203	189	183	170	170	...	24
Glasgow City	2	4	270	250	+20		227	193	179	167	167	...	33
Perth & Kinross	1	4	270	249	+21		240	193	164	157	153	...	22
North Ayrshire	2	4	229	216	+13		209	200	177	160	149	...	17
South Lanarkshire	2	4	229	227	+2		199	160	132	119	118	...	18
West Lothian	1	4	229	217	+12		174	147	134	126	121	...	26
Aberdeen City	1	4	226	209	+17		172	146	130	126	122	...	13
Angus	1	4	225	206	+19		154	112	77	79	86	...	7
Scottish Borders	1	4	221	216	+5		201	152	104	89	89	...	6
North Lanarkshire	2	4	220	215	+5		188	169	158	153	149	...	40
Argyll & Bute	1 / 0	4	212	193	+19		191	191	168	156	142	...	7
Falkirk	1	4	189	159	+30		134	110	90	88	88	...	23
South Ayrshire	2	4	186	182	+4		170	172	194	205	228	...	25
Inverclyde	1	4	185	177	+8		153	127	89	77	62	...	15
Fife	1	4	181	163	+18		128	100	81	72	73	...	32
Clackmannanshire	2	4	155	167	-12		163	153	140	147	159	...	14
Stirling	2	4	150	143	+7		122	97	89	80	83	...	11
Aberdeenshire	1	3	122	112	+10		99	79	64	55	45	...	8
Dumfries & Galloway	1	3	112	98	+14		80	65	48	44	34	...	19
Highland	1 / 0	3	95	70	+25		54	35	28	25	23	...	9
Shetland Islands	0	3	65	61	+4		57	57	52	31	22	...	0
Orkney Islands	0	2	36	40	-4		27	22	18	18	18	...	0
Moray	1	2	30	31	-1		22	20	15	13	10	...	65
Na h-Eileanan Siar	0	1	4	4	0		4	4	4	7	7	...	0
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			23 Jun	22 Jun	21 Jun	20 Jun	19 Jun	...	1 May
Tests			29226	29577	-351		28154	27201	26590	26190	26298	...	18484
Cases			1935	1821	+114		1581	1318	1148	1078	1054	...	171
Positivity rate %			7.0	6.5	+0.5		6.0	5.2	4.6	4.4	4.3	...	1.1
Deaths			2.6	2.6	0.0		2.4	1.9	1.6	1.6	1.6	...	1.3
All Vaccinations			32822	34149	-1327		36281	37955	38557	39873	40928	...	45346
1st Dose			16880	17654	-774		18554	19016	18538	19043	19127	...	6677
2nd Dose			15942	16495	-553		17727	18939	20019	20830	21801	...	38669
Daily data
All in hospital			188	177	+11		170	171	158	149	145	...	65
Non-ICU			172	160	+12		152	153	144	137	135	...	54
ICU			16	17	-1		18	18	14	12	10	...	11

👍

[Shanks said no]

1 minute ago, Footballfirst said:

The number of vaccines allocated to Scotland in the week to 21 June was 116,550, which is the lowest number since 5 April which the SG indicated that there was going to be a significant drop.

 

The other issue is how vaccines are split by suppliers.  There is a need for AZ to give 2nd doses to over 40s, but a greater need just now for Pfizer and Moderna for the under 40s.

 

Scotland has been vaccinating people at a similar rate to the rUK.

Thanks @Footballfirst 

 

back of fag packet calculations, at that rate it would take 100 weeks to double dose a population of 5 million 

 

hope the allocation increases 

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 hours ago, milky_26 said:

👍

 

in before trm

I'm well beaten today. 

☺️

[milky_26]

12 minutes ago, Smithee said:

Is it just me or does Lizzie's reply read like an M&S ad?

now youve mentioned it, i ended up reading it in my head with that m&s voiceover voice

 

 

"this isn't an extra-marital affair this is a matt hancock extra marital affair"

[Unknown user]

Just now, milky_26 said:

now youve mentioned it, i ended up reading it in my head with that m&s voiceover voice

 

 

"this isn't an extra-marital affair this is a matt hancock extra marital affair"

Exactly!

[Radio Ga Ga]

[pablo]

26 minutes ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

 

So we're now the UK Covid hotspot. By quite some distance too. Is there any commentary to suggest why?

 

 

Edited June 25, 2021 by pablo

[Nucky Thompson]

34 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

So we're now the UK Covid hotspot. By quite some distance too. Is there any commentary to suggest why?

 

 

Aye, it's Westminsters fault 

Edited June 25, 2021 by Nucky Thompson

[Seymour M Hersh]

3 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Lobbying firm in lobbying for clients shocker.

 

 

[Konrad von Carstein]

 

 

Edited June 25, 2021 by Konrad von Carstein

[Don Dan]

His credibility is shot. However it’s utterly amazing some people find his behaviour acceptable for someone leading the country through this pandemic. 

[Seymour M Hersh]

45 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

 

 

 

Why quote some pathetic drama queen? Makes her want to die. Ffs dear do us all a favour and stay off unsocial media. 

[Ulysses]

2 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

 

 

[Ulysses]

4 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

For at least the 7th day in a row the number of vaccines received has dropped. Is there an issue with the programme?

 

Running out of people willing to take appointments?  I'm speculating, but maybe younger people feel there's less of a risk and therefore less to be gained by taking the jab?

[Enzo Chiefo]

5 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

For at least the 7th day in a row the number of vaccines received has dropped. Is there an issue with the programme?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/7096159/scots-covid-vaccine-1m-unused-doses/

 

Although the article was from May, it's clear that our supplies are never ever exhausted. Distribution problems are not from the UK to Scotland but from Scotland to her vaccine hubs.  To paraphrase Sturgeon herself: "we will always have more supply available than we can utilise".

[Konrad von Carstein]

5 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/7096159/scots-covid-vaccine-1m-unused-doses/

 

Although the article was from May, it's clear that our supplies are never ever exhausted. Distribution problems are not from the UK to Scotland but from Scotland to her vaccine hubs.  To paraphrase Sturgeon herself: "we will always have more supply available than we can utilise".

Exhausted...forget it

[Greedy Jambo]

First jag, 3 weeks later i'm losing my short term memory. No joke.

[Enzo Chiefo]

14 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

Exhausted...forget it

1m unused doses would suggest that supplies are not exhausted, no?

[Konrad von Carstein]

1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

1m unused doses would suggest that supplies are not exhausted, no?

Sorry Enzo, just had a warning for calling an utter twat a, well twat...and it coincided with me engaging with you...If there are 1M unused doses that does indeed suggest there is either over supply 🙄 or something is not right with distribution.

 

[Konrad von Carstein]

1 minute ago, jonesy said:

"Hey hen, you been doubled jabbed yet?"

"No."

"Give me five minutes  "

5.? You are spoiling us Mr Ambassador (or Health Secretary whatever)

[Enzo Chiefo]

10 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

Sorry Enzo, just had a warning for calling an utter twat a, well twat...and it coincided with me engaging with you...If there are 1M unused doses that does indeed suggest there is either over supply 🙄 or something is not right with distribution.

 

Haha. No bother KvC. Just to clarify, I'm not having a pop at the SG, for a change😂, just pointing out that there may well be supply issues from within Scotland.  Overall though, I don't think many of us can complain about the success of the vaccine roll-out in any of the UK nations.👍

[JudyJudyJudy]

[jack D and coke]

5 people at Hearts have COVID. It’s proper rampant here atm...

[theshed]

9 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

 

 

He’s lucky she didn’t go down and give him a blow job😱

A real school boy error not thinking about the camera but as i said it could have been worse with it ending up on porn hub 

 

God knows what their other half’s are thinking watching that 

 

He surely can’t last the weekend after watching that plus knowing the sun they will keep the best till Sunday 

[A Boy Named Crow]

 

After a year of not really being impacted by covid here, a stupid airport driver decided not to get his vaccine, then to drive international flight crews around without a mask on...a few dozen cases later,  Sydney is in lockdown again. 

 

So, last year it was Tiger King and baking, what's the go with lockdowns this year?

[Unknown user]

15 minutes ago, A Boy Named Crow said:

 

After a year of not really being impacted by covid here, a stupid airport driver decided not to get his vaccine, then to drive international flight crews around without a mask on...a few dozen cases later,  Sydney is in lockdown again. 

 

So, last year it was Tiger King and baking, what's the go with lockdowns this year?

 

I believe weed and porn are making a comeback, so to speak.

 

9 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Why quote some pathetic drama queen? 

 

Well he's humpty as hell, and he doesn't really seem to get most of the things he rants about, but there's a certain twinkle in Seymour's eye that you just can't resist.

[A Boy Named Crow]

3 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

I believe weed and porn are making a comeback, so to speak.

 

Given folk got into "make your own" type hobbies last time, the first of those makes perfect sense...the latter though, I'm not convinced. 

[DETTY29]

9 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/7096159/scots-covid-vaccine-1m-unused-doses/

 

Although the article was from May, it's clear that our supplies are never ever exhausted. Distribution problems are not from the UK to Scotland but from Scotland to her vaccine hubs.  To paraphrase Sturgeon herself: "we will always have more supply available than we can utilise".

I've stopped watching the figures so perhaps @Footballfirst can help out but doses delivered to NHS Scotland at the start of the week were 

 

6,445,570 and as of Thursday 6,357,198 doses into arms a gap of only 88k-ish. 

 

Of course more will have been delivered since Monday but we really can't expect arrive and in arm within a day or so.

 

NHS Scotland has however been allocated 6,974,790 doses.  Now unless the SG is playing silly buggers with NHS England and being obstructive and delaying the procurement service, then I'm far from convinced that the SG can have reduced the gap between available supply and into arms much more. 

 

I'm sure the million figure back I'm April was of a similar nature, that in reality, press and opposition politicians were being far from truthful.

 

What is worrying though is that Englabd are having a massive ramp up this weekend for 18s+, when by looking at the numbers, we can't.

 

That said and slightly on topic as someone who 'hangs' around Vaccination Centres, to say take up rates for walk in options for AZ on the face of it appears disappointing.  But @JimmyCantwould be better placed to comment.

 

Re Sturgeon's last sentence, I'd make an assumption that was a dig at the highly irresponsible (imo) opposition politicians who continue to perpetuate mis-truths about the vaccine programme or fundamentally just don't get that it isn't a 'one dose in, one out' process.

 

Edit - while the gap is minimal on a numbers basis, I do have a 'have and have nots' concern about ease of access to vaccines.

 

E.g. a few weeks back, same numbers booked in at a centre over course of 2 days. 1 day heaving, next significantly less.  Ask folk where they stay and Day 1 very affluent, Day 2 predominantly social housing.

Edited June 26, 2021 by DETTY29

[Brighton Jambo]

On 23/06/2021 at 15:00, XB52 said:

Even an absolutely brain dead britnat surely knows by now there is a 2 week delay between an event and infections showing up. Actually probably giving you lot too much credit. This thread gets more and more crazy by the day, I love it

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/tartan-army-coach-trips-wembley-24396211.amp

 

i get that this is a football forum and we all get things wrong.  But the delight I am taking in proving you so spectacularly wrong is particularly pleasing given your original response.  

[Brighton Jambo]

9 hours ago, Boy Daniel said:

His credibility is shot. However it’s utterly amazing some people find his behaviour acceptable for someone leading the country through this pandemic. 

We don’t always (often) agree but on this one I totally agree.  The sheer nerve of the man not resigning.  Not only the fact he breached Covid rules when asking the rest of us not to hug loved ones but the general hit to the perception of his trustworthiness, decision making, credibility means he absolutely has to go.  The fact that fat idiot BoJo won’t sack him says it all.  As bad as each other.  

[JimmyCant]

44 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

I've stopped watching the figures so perhaps @Footballfirst can help out but doses delivered to NHS Scotland at the start of the week were 

 

6,445,570 and as of Thursday 6,357,198 doses into arms a gap of only 88k-ish. 

 

Of course more will have been delivered since Monday but we really can't expect arrive and in arm within a day or so.

 

NHS Scotland has however been allocated 6,974,790 doses.  Now unless the SG is playing silly buggers with NHS England and being obstructive and delaying the procurement service, then I'm far from convinced that the SG can have reduced the gap between available supply and into arms much more. 

 

I'm sure the million figure back I'm April was of a similar nature, that in reality, press and opposition politicians were being far from truthful.

 

What is worrying though is that Englabd are having a massive ramp up this weekend for 18s+, when by looking at the numbers, we can't.

 

That said and slightly on topic as someone who 'hangs' around Vaccination Centres, to say take up rates for walk in options for AZ on the face of it appears disappointing.  But @JimmyCantwould be better placed to comment.

 

Re Sturgeon's last sentence, I'd make an assumption that was a dig at the highly irresponsible (imo) opposition politicians who continue to perpetuate mis-truths about the vaccine programme or fundamentally just don't get that it isn't a 'one dose in, one out' process.

 

Edit - while the gap is minimal on a numbers basis, I do have a 'have and have nots' concern about ease of access to vaccines.

 

E.g. a few weeks back, same numbers booked in at a centre over course of 2 days. 1 day heaving, next significantly less.  Ask folk where they stay and Day 1 very affluent, Day 2 predominantly social housing.

Only a wee bit of that I can comment on with any degree of knowledge

 

1. The ‘walk ups’ for AZ are pretty quiet because this is essentially a sweeping up operation. The overwhelming majority of over 40’s have now had 2 doses of AZ. There are still a few over 40 who have had nothing at all but it’s in the low hundreds in Lothian. There is a higher number of over 40’s who haven’t had both AZ but most of those have appointments coming up soon so won’t need to ‘walk in’ although some do walk in just to get done a few days earlier.

 

As for walk ups for 18-29 which England are doing but we aren’t, that’s purely a Pfizer/Moderna supply issue which I’d expect will take a week to resolve and then we’ll see walk ins for that age group. There is also talk of mobile units being set up to go round areas of high infection.

 

id agree there is an issue with social divide. People with cars can get to the bigger Lothian locations pretty easily. People without cars less so.

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 hour ago, Smithee said:

 

I believe weed and porn are making a comeback, so to speak.

 

 

Well he's humpty as hell, and he doesn't really seem to get most of the things he rants about, but there's a certain twinkle in Seymour's eye that you just can't resist.

 

Wtf are you talking about Napoleon? 

[Seymour M Hersh]

10 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

Arf, arf. However U we don't know that for sure. Grab your assistants ass during a snog would have at least been a factual statement of the Hapless one's behaviour. 

[Unknown user]

15 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Looks staged. I mean, it's right in front of the angle. Now, I'm crediting MH with having any intelligence, but smooching and groping in front of a CCTV cam in your own office, really?

 

There's no way he's voluntarily showing his bald spot and giving away the combover

[Unknown user]

6 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Wtf are you talking about Napoleon? 

My favourite poster, he's a bit like pineapple, a real sweety once you get past the gammon.

[DETTY29]

19 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Only a wee bit of that I can comment on with any degree of knowledge

 

1. The ‘walk ups’ for AZ are pretty quiet because this is essentially a sweeping up operation. The overwhelming majority of over 40’s have now had 2 doses of AZ. There are still a few over 40 who have had nothing at all but it’s in the low hundreds in Lothian. There is a higher number of over 40’s who haven’t had both AZ but most of those have appointments coming up soon so won’t need to ‘walk in’ although some do walk in just to get done a few days earlier.

 

As for walk ups for 18-29 which England are doing but we aren’t, that’s purely a Pfizer/Moderna supply issue which I’d expect will take a week to resolve and then we’ll see walk ins for that age group. There is also talk of mobile units being set up to go round areas of high infection.

 

id agree there is an issue with social divide. People with cars can get to the bigger Lothian locations pretty easily. People without cars less so.

Cheers.

 

Very informative post, that no doubt will be ignored as the weekend goes on.  😉

[Dennis Reynolds]

41 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Only a wee bit of that I can comment on with any degree of knowledge

 

1. The ‘walk ups’ for AZ are pretty quiet because this is essentially a sweeping up operation. The overwhelming majority of over 40’s have now had 2 doses of AZ. There are still a few over 40 who have had nothing at all but it’s in the low hundreds in Lothian. There is a higher number of over 40’s who haven’t had both AZ but most of those have appointments coming up soon so won’t need to ‘walk in’ although some do walk in just to get done a few days earlier.

 

As for walk ups for 18-29 which England are doing but we aren’t, that’s purely a Pfizer/Moderna supply issue which I’d expect will take a week to resolve and then we’ll see walk ins for that age group. There is also talk of mobile units being set up to go round areas of high infection.

 

id agree there is an issue with social divide. People with cars can get to the bigger Lothian locations pretty easily. People without cars less so.

 

👍

[Konrad von Carstein]

52 minutes ago, Smithee said:

My favourite poster, he's a bit like pineapple, a real sweety once you get past the gammon.

Mr Hodges?

[Taffin]

How did the Delta variant get into Fort Knox (Australia)?

 

Lockdown for 80 cases.

 

Would people really prefer that was our approach? Seems very disruptive to still be having stay at home lockdowns into July 2021.

[Footballfirst]

2 hours ago, DETTY29 said:

I've stopped watching the figures so perhaps @Footballfirst can help out but doses delivered to NHS Scotland at the start of the week were 

 

6,445,570 and as of Thursday 6,357,198 doses into arms a gap of only 88k-ish. 

 

Of course more will have been delivered since Monday but we really can't expect arrive and in arm within a day or so.

 

NHS Scotland has however been allocated 6,974,790 doses.  Now unless the SG is playing silly buggers with NHS England and being obstructive and delaying the procurement service, then I'm far from convinced that the SG can have reduced the gap between available supply and into arms much more. 

 

I'm sure the million figure back I'm April was of a similar nature, that in reality, press and opposition politicians were being far from truthful.

I've been tracking the weekly figures and the "unused" vaccine number as used in the Sun includes the difference between supplies "allocated" to Scotland and the amount drawn down, or "delivered".  That gap fluctuates week by week either side of the 500k mark

 

My understanding is that the allocated supplies can be "delivered" within a couple of days if required. 500k represents two weeks supply at 35k/36k a day, which is comparable to the number of doses administered over the last couple of weeks.  Scotland was only allocated 116,550 doses in the most recent week, so reserves will have to utilised to maintain vaccination levels.

 

I would have hoped that more of those reserves would be used for surge vaccinations where appropriate, but that would have to be dependent on the type of vaccine held.  If the majority of the reserves are AZ, then they are not much use for the under 40s.

 

In overall terms, Scotland has administered more vaccines than its population share (8.37% of UK doses against 8.18% population) than both England (83.95% v 84.27%) and Northern Ireland (2.62% v 2.83%).  Only Wales (5.05% v 4.72%) is ahead of Scotland in that regard.  I don't know how Wales has achieved it, but it may be that they have a policy of retaining a lower proportion of reserves that the rest of the UK.

 

On the date of the Sun article quoted by Enzo, Scotland had administered 8.26% of all UK doses, so has actually increased its vaccination rate compared to the rest of the UK, since then.

 

 

   

[highlandjambo3]

Maybe a bit of a nugget question here but, there is a fair bit of chat about passports/for people who have been fully vaccinated and, now that I’ve had two jabs I fall into this category however, how do I prove this?  For both jabs on both occasions I received a text informing me to call my GP, I then get an appointment over the phone to attend a jab centre…..jab done but no actual documented evidence that this happened.