Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Nookie Bear]

3 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Really? Andy Burnham is going for the Labour leadership here and is trying to tell us what’s what. No wonder Labour are broon breed here now. 
The BBC actually found someone in Manchester who wanted to come north to scatter ashes too. Or made them up. 

 

Lovely, but irrelevant to the matter at hand here, no?

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 23 June 2021

Summary

• 2,969 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+802; up from 1129 a week ago]
• 42,310 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+17,272]
  • 7.3% of these were positive [-1.8%]
• 5 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+1]
• 18 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [=]
• 170 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-1]
• 3,681,620 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,617,450 have received their second dose [+17,049; +14,697]

[The Real Maroonblood]

36 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said:

Of course it was gesture politics, Nanny Nicola was Lap Dancing for the Nationalist party Zealots. They love it.

[Brighton Jambo]

7 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 23 June 2021

Summary

• 2,969 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+802; up from 1129 a week ago]
• 42,310 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+17,272]
  • 7.3% of these were positive [-1.8%]
• 5 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+1]
• 18 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [=]
• 170 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-1]
• 3,681,620 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,617,450 have received their second dose [+17,049; +14,697]

From all accounts that’s the Tartan Army London impact being seen loud and clear.  3000 cases in a day and not a word of condemnation from the powers that be.  Scandalous.  

[redjambo]

Today's trend stats:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	WHO	Today	Yesterday			21 Jun	20 Jun	19 Jun	18 Jun	17 Jun	...	1 May
Scotland			203	169	+34		147	138	135	132	135	...	22
Dundee City	2	4	419	334	+85		301	298	325	326	329	...	13
East Lothian	1	4	408	316	+92		225	216	186	169	173	...	5
Edinburgh City	2	4	342	285	+57		248	227	220	220	218	...	27
Midlothian	2	4	334	238	+96		176	176	161	156	173	...	10
East Ayrshire	2	4	299	244	+55		229	211	210	194	184	...	45
West Dunbartonshire	1	4	270	224	+46		192	169	141	123	146	...	28
Perth & Kinross	1	4	240	193	+47		164	157	153	161	167	...	22
East Dunbartonshire	2	4	237	226	+11		211	200	181	172	176	...	51
Glasgow City	2	4	227	193	+34		179	167	167	160	168	...	33
Renfrewshire	2	4	215	175	+40		143	146	154	145	150	...	20
North Ayrshire	2	4	209	200	+9		177	160	149	159	144	...	17
East Renfrewshire	2	4	203	189	+14		183	170	170	169	191	...	24
Scottish Borders	1	4	201	152	+49		104	89	89	87	88	...	6
South Lanarkshire	2	4	199	160	+39		132	119	118	118	119	...	18
Argyll & Bute	1 / 0	4	191	191	0		168	156	142	115	106	...	7
North Lanarkshire	2	4	188	169	+19		158	153	149	149	147	...	40
West Lothian	1	4	174	147	+27		134	126	121	116	127	...	26
Aberdeen City	1	4	172	146	+26		130	126	122	110	115	...	13
South Ayrshire	2	4	170	172	-2		194	205	228	247	260	...	25
Clackmannanshire	2	4	163	153	+10		140	147	159	182	206	...	14
Angus	1	4	154	112	+42		77	79	86	100	114	...	7
Inverclyde	1	4	153	127	+26		89	77	62	60	60	...	15
Falkirk	1	3	134	110	+24		90	88	88	75	71	...	23
Fife	1	3	128	100	+28		81	72	73	72	78	...	32
Stirling	2	3	122	97	+25		89	80	83	77	81	...	11
Aberdeenshire	1	3	99	79	+20		64	55	45	38	32	...	8
Dumfries & Galloway	1	3	80	65	+15		48	44	34	35	39	...	19
Shetland Islands	0	3	57	57	0		52	31	22	4	0	...	0
Highland	1 / 0	3	54	35	+19		28	25	23	20	16	...	9
Orkney Islands	0	2	27	22	+5		18	18	18	4	0	...	0
Moray	1	2	22	20	+2		15	13	10	10	8	...	65
Na h-Eileanan Siar	0	1	4	4	0		4	7	7	7	2	...	0
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			21 Jun	20 Jun	19 Jun	18 Jun	17 Jun	...	1 May
Tests			28154	27201	+953		26590	26190	26298	25990	25891	...	18484
Cases			1581	1318	+263		1148	1078	1054	1028	1050	...	171
Positivity rate %			6.0	5.2	+0.8		4.6	4.4	4.3	4.3	4.4	...	1.1
Deaths			2.4	1.9	+0.5		1.6	1.6	1.6	1.6	1.3	...	1.3
All Vaccinations			36281	37955	-1674		38557	39873	40928	41876	43056	...	45346
1st Dose			18554	19016	-462		18538	19043	19127	18939	18644	...	6677
2nd Dose			17727	18939	-1212		20019	20830	21801	22937	24412	...	38669
Daily data
All in hospital			170	171	-1		158	149	145	128	140	...	65
Non-ICU			152	153	-1		144	137	135	116	128	...	54
ICU			18	18	0		14	12	10	12	12	...	11

[cheetah]

5 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Today's trend stats:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	WHO	Today	Yesterday			21 Jun	20 Jun	19 Jun	18 Jun	17 Jun	...	1 May
Scotland			203	169	+34		147	138	135	132	135	...	22
Dundee City	2	4	419	334	+85		301	298	325	326	329	...	13
East Lothian	1	4	408	316	+92		225	216	186	169	173	...	5
Edinburgh City	2	4	342	285	+57		248	227	220	220	218	...	27
Midlothian	2	4	334	238	+96		176	176	161	156	173	...	10
East Ayrshire	2	4	299	244	+55		229	211	210	194	184	...	45
West Dunbartonshire	1	4	270	224	+46		192	169	141	123	146	...	28
Perth & Kinross	1	4	240	193	+47		164	157	153	161	167	...	22
East Dunbartonshire	2	4	237	226	+11		211	200	181	172	176	...	51
Glasgow City	2	4	227	193	+34		179	167	167	160	168	...	33
Renfrewshire	2	4	215	175	+40		143	146	154	145	150	...	20
North Ayrshire	2	4	209	200	+9		177	160	149	159	144	...	17
East Renfrewshire	2	4	203	189	+14		183	170	170	169	191	...	24
Scottish Borders	1	4	201	152	+49		104	89	89	87	88	...	6
South Lanarkshire	2	4	199	160	+39		132	119	118	118	119	...	18
Argyll & Bute	1 / 0	4	191	191	0		168	156	142	115	106	...	7
North Lanarkshire	2	4	188	169	+19		158	153	149	149	147	...	40
West Lothian	1	4	174	147	+27		134	126	121	116	127	...	26
Aberdeen City	1	4	172	146	+26		130	126	122	110	115	...	13
South Ayrshire	2	4	170	172	-2		194	205	228	247	260	...	25
Clackmannanshire	2	4	163	153	+10		140	147	159	182	206	...	14
Angus	1	4	154	112	+42		77	79	86	100	114	...	7
Inverclyde	1	4	153	127	+26		89	77	62	60	60	...	15
Falkirk	1	3	134	110	+24		90	88	88	75	71	...	23
Fife	1	3	128	100	+28		81	72	73	72	78	...	32
Stirling	2	3	122	97	+25		89	80	83	77	81	...	11
Aberdeenshire	1	3	99	79	+20		64	55	45	38	32	...	8
Dumfries & Galloway	1	3	80	65	+15		48	44	34	35	39	...	19
Shetland Islands	0	3	57	57	0		52	31	22	4	0	...	0
Highland	1 / 0	3	54	35	+19		28	25	23	20	16	...	9
Orkney Islands	0	2	27	22	+5		18	18	18	4	0	...	0
Moray	1	2	22	20	+2		15	13	10	10	8	...	65
Na h-Eileanan Siar	0	1	4	4	0		4	7	7	7	2	...	0
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			21 Jun	20 Jun	19 Jun	18 Jun	17 Jun	...	1 May
Tests			28154	27201	+953		26590	26190	26298	25990	25891	...	18484
Cases			1581	1318	+263		1148	1078	1054	1028	1050	...	171
Positivity rate %			6.0	5.2	+0.8		4.6	4.4	4.3	4.3	4.4	...	1.1
Deaths			2.4	1.9	+0.5		1.6	1.6	1.6	1.6	1.3	...	1.3
All Vaccinations			36281	37955	-1674		38557	39873	40928	41876	43056	...	45346
1st Dose			18554	19016	-462		18538	19043	19127	18939	18644	...	6677
2nd Dose			17727	18939	-1212		20019	20830	21801	22937	24412	...	38669
Daily data
All in hospital			170	171	-1		158	149	145	128	140	...	65
Non-ICU			152	153	-1		144	137	135	116	128	...	54
ICU			18	18	0		14	12	10	12	12	...	11

👍 yaaaas in before TRM again

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 minute ago, cheetah said:

👍 yaaaas in before TRM again

😄

[Mysterion]

Just now, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 23 June 2021

Summary

• 2,969 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+802; up from 1129 a week ago]
• 42,310 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+17,272]
  • 7.3% of these were positive [-1.8%]
• 5 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+1]
• 18 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [=]
• 170 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-1]
• 3,681,620 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,617,450 have received their second dose [+17,049; +14,697]

 

Looking at cases/positivity/hospital rates - the vaccine effort is really making a difference. 

 

I don't think the case numbers are great but it has to be tempered by the hospital rates are not ramping up.  

 

[XB52]

3 hours ago, SE16 3LN said:

Just a reminder that Nicola Sturgeon banned all non essential travel to and from parts of Greater Manchester on a day that Scotland had the highest infection rates in Europe and 40000 drunk Scots descended on London. She's a Xenophobic Hypocrite with the morals of a sewer rat. She's shitting all over the Scottish flag shaggers and you're gobbling it up. As the infection rates in London increase in the coming days and weeks, and among the Celtic Covid carriers and their friends and family, it will of course be all Westminster's fault. What a bunch of ****ing morons.

😁😁😁😁Love it when a raving loony britnat loses their shit

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, Mysterion said:

 

Looking at cases/positivity/hospital rates - the vaccine effort is really making a difference. 

 

I don't think the case numbers are great but it has to be tempered by the hospital rates are not ramping up.  

 

👍

[The Real Maroonblood]

9 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Today's trend stats:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	WHO	Today	Yesterday			21 Jun	20 Jun	19 Jun	18 Jun	17 Jun	...	1 May
Scotland			203	169	+34		147	138	135	132	135	...	22
Dundee City	2	4	419	334	+85		301	298	325	326	329	...	13
East Lothian	1	4	408	316	+92		225	216	186	169	173	...	5
Edinburgh City	2	4	342	285	+57		248	227	220	220	218	...	27
Midlothian	2	4	334	238	+96		176	176	161	156	173	...	10
East Ayrshire	2	4	299	244	+55		229	211	210	194	184	...	45
West Dunbartonshire	1	4	270	224	+46		192	169	141	123	146	...	28
Perth & Kinross	1	4	240	193	+47		164	157	153	161	167	...	22
East Dunbartonshire	2	4	237	226	+11		211	200	181	172	176	...	51
Glasgow City	2	4	227	193	+34		179	167	167	160	168	...	33
Renfrewshire	2	4	215	175	+40		143	146	154	145	150	...	20
North Ayrshire	2	4	209	200	+9		177	160	149	159	144	...	17
East Renfrewshire	2	4	203	189	+14		183	170	170	169	191	...	24
Scottish Borders	1	4	201	152	+49		104	89	89	87	88	...	6
South Lanarkshire	2	4	199	160	+39		132	119	118	118	119	...	18
Argyll & Bute	1 / 0	4	191	191	0		168	156	142	115	106	...	7
North Lanarkshire	2	4	188	169	+19		158	153	149	149	147	...	40
West Lothian	1	4	174	147	+27		134	126	121	116	127	...	26
Aberdeen City	1	4	172	146	+26		130	126	122	110	115	...	13
South Ayrshire	2	4	170	172	-2		194	205	228	247	260	...	25
Clackmannanshire	2	4	163	153	+10		140	147	159	182	206	...	14
Angus	1	4	154	112	+42		77	79	86	100	114	...	7
Inverclyde	1	4	153	127	+26		89	77	62	60	60	...	15
Falkirk	1	3	134	110	+24		90	88	88	75	71	...	23
Fife	1	3	128	100	+28		81	72	73	72	78	...	32
Stirling	2	3	122	97	+25		89	80	83	77	81	...	11
Aberdeenshire	1	3	99	79	+20		64	55	45	38	32	...	8
Dumfries & Galloway	1	3	80	65	+15		48	44	34	35	39	...	19
Shetland Islands	0	3	57	57	0		52	31	22	4	0	...	0
Highland	1 / 0	3	54	35	+19		28	25	23	20	16	...	9
Orkney Islands	0	2	27	22	+5		18	18	18	4	0	...	0
Moray	1	2	22	20	+2		15	13	10	10	8	...	65
Na h-Eileanan Siar	0	1	4	4	0		4	7	7	7	2	...	0
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			21 Jun	20 Jun	19 Jun	18 Jun	17 Jun	...	1 May
Tests			28154	27201	+953		26590	26190	26298	25990	25891	...	18484
Cases			1581	1318	+263		1148	1078	1054	1028	1050	...	171
Positivity rate %			6.0	5.2	+0.8		4.6	4.4	4.3	4.3	4.4	...	1.1
Deaths			2.4	1.9	+0.5		1.6	1.6	1.6	1.6	1.3	...	1.3
All Vaccinations			36281	37955	-1674		38557	39873	40928	41876	43056	...	45346
1st Dose			18554	19016	-462		18538	19043	19127	18939	18644	...	6677
2nd Dose			17727	18939	-1212		20019	20830	21801	22937	24412	...	38669
Daily data
All in hospital			170	171	-1		158	149	145	128	140	...	65
Non-ICU			152	153	-1		144	137	135	116	128	...	54
ICU			18	18	0		14	12	10	12	12	...	11

👍

[XB52]

13 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

From all accounts that’s the Tartan Army London impact being seen loud and clear.  3000 cases in a day and not a word of condemnation from the powers that be.  Scandalous.  

Even an absolutely brain dead britnat surely knows by now there is a 2 week delay between an event and infections showing up. Actually probably giving you lot too much credit. This thread gets more and more crazy by the day, I love it

[JudyJudyJudy]

Since May 17th which opened us up more there has been some increases in hospitals and icu but nothing too alarming . May 17th 4 in ICU and today 18 and in hospital 70 then and 170 today . So it’s looking like vaccines are working to me . 

[Don Dan]

1 hour ago, Francis Albert said:

Wasn't just more gesture politics was it?

Totally unenforceable. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

Beep beep “ urgent warning “ from NS in other words stating the obvious yet again . Least there is an acknowledgment that they carried out a record number of tests yesterday ! And what comes from more tests ? More positives

 

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/nicola-sturgeon-warns-830-covid-20884108?fbclid=IwAR1RKKmyWI3bx1AihM-wy3SmTjm6XPvkvuhWXiZtbWLH2fGBBZinZ_9-H6I

Edited June 23, 2021 by JamesM48

[jack D and coke]

48 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Lovely, but irrelevant to the matter at hand here, no?

Yeah it is. I liked Burnham and thought he’d play well as Labour leader but he’s a little rodent like all the rest. Guess that was my point more than anything. 

[ri Alban]

35 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

From all accounts that’s the Tartan Army London impact being seen loud and clear.  3000 cases in a day and not a word of condemnation from the powers that be.  Scandalous.  

It takes 3 weeks for an impact to show up. But don't let that interfere with your bullshitting. 

 

 

[Brighton Jambo]

20 minutes ago, XB52 said:

Even an absolutely brain dead britnat surely knows by now there is a 2 week delay between an event and infections showing up. Actually probably giving you lot too much credit. This thread gets more and more crazy by the day, I love it

If that’s not the reason then can you please explain why Scotland currently has the highest infection rate in Europe?  The numbers of cases has nearly tripled in three days, what’s your explanation for that? 

[Footballfirst]

Today's case count of 2969 is the highest ever recorded since the start of pandemic (previous record was 2649), albeit with record levels of testing.

 

The failure of the JCVI to provide a recommendation, as yet, to vaccinate under 18s leads to the inevitable conclusion that the virus will be left to its own devices in schools, effectively a herd immunity strategy by infection rather than by vaccination.

 

If that is now the policy, then schools have to be left open with no isolation measures for contacts of infected pupils.

 

 

  

 

[Brighton Jambo]

1 minute ago, ri Alban said:

It takes 3 weeks for an impact to show up. But don't let that interfere with your bullshitting. 

 

 

 

 

Fair enough, I have jumped the gun.  Can you then explain why we in Scotland currently have the highest infection rate in Europe? 

[ri Alban]

3 hours ago, SE16 3LN said:

Just a reminder that Nicola Sturgeon banned all non essential travel to and from parts of Greater Manchester on a day that Scotland had the highest infection rates in Europe and 40000 drunk Scots descended on London. She's a Xenophobic Hypocrite with the morals of a sewer rat. She's shitting all over the Scottish flag shaggers and you're gobbling it up. As the infection rates in London increase in the coming days and weeks, and among the Celtic Covid carriers and their friends and family, it will of course be all Westminster's fault. What a bunch of ****ing morons.

Glass Houses ya Millwall.... 

 

Still hating Blacks down that way? 

 

Anyway Scotland has 200 per 100,000. Manchester has 400. And I see you have the seville Celtic calculator. 40 000 Scots. 10 000 more like. 

Mutant. 

[Nucky Thompson]

Don't know how long it's meant to take to show through but I'm hearing loads of stories about peoples kids/grandkids coming back from London and testing positive. Mostly youngsters without any illness though 

[redjambo]

1 minute ago, Footballfirst said:

Today's case count of 2969 is the highest ever recorded since the start of pandemic (previous record was 2649), albeit with record levels of testing.

 

The failure of the JCVI to provide a recommendation, as yet, to vaccinate under 18s leads to the inevitable conclusion that the virus will be left to its own devices in schools, effectively a herd immunity strategy by infection rather than by vaccination.

 

If that is now the policy, then schools have to be left open with no isolation measures for contacts of infected pupils.

 

I suspect it has been the policy for a short while now. It's the only thing that can explain what we're hearing from the two governments when viewed against the background of accelerating cases.

[Footballfirst]

Just now, Brighton Jambo said:

Fair enough, I have jumped the gun.  Can you then explain why we in Scotland currently have the highest infection rate in Europe? 

Quite simple. The delta variant is highly infectious and is spreading rapidly in uncontrolled settings like schools and homes.

The failure was in not preventing its arrival in the UK and once detected, containing it through effective test, trace and isolation enforcement.

[Brighton Jambo]

1 minute ago, Footballfirst said:

Quite simple. The delta variant is highly infectious and is spreading rapidly in uncontrolled settings like schools and homes.

The failure was in not preventing its arrival in the UK and once detected, containing it through effective test, trace and isolation enforcement.

No that cannot be the answer.  Our case rate is miles ahead of both England and Wales so what you have said would be equally relevant to them.  So I ask again why is it so bad in Scotland? 

[ri Alban]

English xenophobe muppets out in force on this thread. But that's allowed by the posts being still up. 

[redjambo]

8 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Today's case count of 2969 is the highest ever recorded since the start of pandemic (previous record was 2649), albeit with record levels of testing.

 

The failure of the JCVI to provide a recommendation, as yet, to vaccinate under 18s leads to the inevitable conclusion that the virus will be left to its own devices in schools, effectively a herd immunity strategy by infection rather than by vaccination.

 

If that is now the policy, then schools have to be left open with no isolation measures for contacts of infected pupils.

 

 

Graphically, courtesy of Travelling Tabby:

 

[Nucky Thompson]

3 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

English xenophobe muppets out in force on this thread. But that's allowed by the posts being still up. 

Says the Worlds worst tartan xenophobe 

[Enzo Chiefo]

37 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

From all accounts that’s the Tartan Army London impact being seen loud and clear.  3000 cases in a day and not a word of condemnation from the powers that be.  

Reporting of case numbers seems to be getting a bit silly now tbh. Hospital numbers are about a tenth of what they were during previous peaks so it would be useful to have a bit of context around the "cases". How many are asymptomatic? What are they symptoms? etc. Hopefully, in the near future we can also move away from daily reporting and focus on ensuring that hospitalisations and deaths are not increasing 

[Footballfirst]

Just now, Brighton Jambo said:

No that cannot be the answer.  Our case rate is miles ahead of both England and Wales so what you have said would be equally relevant to them.  So I ask again why is it so bad in Scotland? 

The answer is the same.  The infection rate is beyond what Scotland can handle through its track trace and isolation, so is now out of control.

 

The controls worked in a confined area during the Moray outbreak, but failed when it hit Glasgow, and has now spread out of control to Edinburgh, Dundee and beyond. We know that adherence to isolation measures is low.

 

In England, they have just abut restricted it to the highly affected areas such as Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley Salford  etc, but it hasn't gone away, so could still break out more widely.

 

Both the UK and SG governments will be looking for the school holidays to break the chains of infection.

 

[Brighton Jambo]

1 minute ago, Footballfirst said:

The answer is the same.  The infection rate is beyond what Scotland can handle through its track trace and isolation, so is now out of control.

 

The controls worked in a confined area during the Moray outbreak, but failed when it hit Glasgow, and has now spread out of control to Edinburgh, Dundee and beyond. We know that adherence to isolation measures is low.

 

In England, they have just abut restricted it to the highly affected areas such as Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley Salford  etc, but it hasn't gone away, so could still break out more widely.

 

Both the UK and SG governments will be looking for the school holidays to break the chains of infection.

 

I do agree that the schools finishing is huge opportunity to slow the spread.  Maybe with English schools not closing for another month we might see their infections level shoot up and ours drop.  

[JudyJudyJudy]

23 minutes ago, jonesy said:

You do realise all the britnat/scotnat schtick is two cheeks of the same arse, really, yeah? Eton cunderthunts and woad-faced jock-cockeys battling it out reminds me very much of the Old Firm 'banter' seen on peer-reviewed 😜 platforms like Twitter. Everywhere you look at WM and HR there's been incompetence and corruption. It's like Oasis v Blur but without the self-awareness or class.

I preferred Blur 

[JudyJudyJudy]

23 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Today's case count of 2969 is the highest ever recorded since the start of pandemic (previous record was 2649), albeit with record levels of testing.

 

The failure of the JCVI to provide a recommendation, as yet, to vaccinate under 18s leads to the inevitable conclusion that the virus will be left to its own devices in schools, effectively a herd immunity strategy by infection rather than by vaccination.

 

If that is now the policy, then schools have to be left open with no isolation measures for contacts of infected pupils.

 

 

  

 

Great explanation 

12 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Reporting of case numbers seems to be getting a bit silly now tbh. Hospital numbers are about a tenth of what they were during previous peaks so it would be useful to have a bit of context around the "cases". How many are asymptomatic? What are they symptoms? etc. Hopefully, in the near future we can also move away from daily reporting and focus on ensuring that hospitalisations and deaths are not increasing 

Hopefully but it’s always been a focus on infections . 

[JudyJudyJudy]

16 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Reporting of case numbers seems to be getting a bit silly now tbh. Hospital numbers are about a tenth of what they were during previous peaks so it would be useful to have a bit of context around the "cases". How many are asymptomatic? What are they symptoms? etc. Hopefully, in the near future we can also move away from daily reporting and focus on ensuring that hospitalisations and deaths are not increasing 

My 67 years old friend will be one of those stats as he tested positive on Monday . Before the vaccines he might and I say might , have become ill but all he had was a runny nose for a couple of days . So bravo to the vaccines 💉 

[Jamboross]

15 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Reporting of case numbers seems to be getting a bit silly now tbh. Hospital numbers are about a tenth of what they were during previous peaks so it would be useful to have a bit of context around the "cases". How many are asymptomatic? What are they symptoms? etc. Hopefully, in the near future we can also move away from daily reporting and focus on ensuring that hospitalisations and deaths are not increasing 

 

Agree a bit more detail would be nice but it's still important to monitor case numbers. Even with the decent reduction in the percentage of folk ending up in hospital it's still around 5% of cases. If we're recording 2-3000 cases a day at the moment that is still going to translate to 100-150 daily hospitalisations relatively soon which, clearly, is not sustainable. It would be irresponsible to completely just disregard case numbers now, so close to the end of this thing. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, jonesy said:

😂😂😂 

[manaliveits105]

Krankie should do the right thing and resign her and her administration have lost control of situation - the vaccinations should have been ramped up by now - don’t accept the supply excuses 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Jamboross said:

 

Agree a bit more detail would be nice but it's still important to monitor case numbers. Even with the decent reduction in the percentage of folk ending up in hospital it's still around 5% of cases. If we're recording 2-3000 cases a day at the moment that is still going to translate to 100-150 daily hospitalisations relatively soon which, clearly, is not sustainable. It would be irresponsible to completely just disregard case numbers now, so close to the end of this thing. 

Yes but even those who are hospitalised are only there briefly , apparently , apart from those in ICU . Let’s not get down the road of hospitals May get “ overwhelmed “ even at its peak they werent turning people away at A and E . Yes it did impact on other treatments for other illnesses and that’s to be considered if numbers rose a lot higher than they are just now but it then it begs the question , the elephant in the room when will the NHS ever cope ? 

[Enzo Chiefo]

12 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Only cases I'm now interested in are the ones I'll be packing for a winter holiday to somewhere warm, sunny and very boozy.

Haha. Me too, Jonesy. The ones you sometimes see doing 10k on the carousel before anyone claims them👍

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Haha. Me too, Jonesy. The ones you sometimes see doing 10k on the carousel before anyone claims them👍

Why is my case always the last though ? 

[SE16 3LN]

1 hour ago, XB52 said:

😁😁😁😁Love it when a raving loony britnat loses their shit

Love it when a flag spunking Nationalist of any variety is too thick to understand that an Internationalist is ripping their petty little hate theory to shreds. Marching under a Union Flag, English Flag, Scottish flag or Irish flag is the activity of bigoted despots. 

[SE16 3LN]

1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

Glass Houses ya Millwall.... 

 

Still hating Blacks down that way? 

 

Anyway Scotland has 200 per 100,000. Manchester has 400. And I see you have the seville Celtic calculator. 40 000 Scots. 10 000 more like. 

Mutant. 

Millwall have done more to fight racism than the Scottish Govt. ya soap dodging . 

 

Dundee had more cases than Manchester you illiterate Paisley Slag.

 

There was more than 10 000 Scots in my street. One shat on the floor in my local and another chucked his shite filled kecks on to the lamp shade. Spreading their bodily fluids wherever they go. 😂

[Enzo Chiefo]

38 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Why is my case always the last though ? 

😂Everyone thinks like that James

[JudyJudyJudy]

32 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said:

Love it when a flag spunking Nationalist of any variety is too thick to understand that an Internationalist is ripping their petty little hate theory to shreds. Marching under a Union Flag, English Flag, Scottish flag or Irish flag is the activity of bigoted despots. 

 

[westbow]

1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

Today's case count of 2969 is the highest ever recorded since the start of pandemic (previous record was 2649), albeit with record levels of testing.

 

The failure of the JCVI to provide a recommendation, as yet, to vaccinate under 18s leads to the inevitable conclusion that the virus will be left to its own devices in schools, effectively a herd immunity strategy by infection rather than by vaccination.

 

If that is now the policy, then schools have to be left open with no isolation measures for contacts of infected pupils.

 

 

  

 

I reckon it is more to do with the availability of Pfizer or Moderna vaccines. The adult age groups between 18-50 being a priority.

[CJGJ]

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[Footballfirst]

10 minutes ago, westbow said:

I reckon it is more to do with the availability of Pfizer or Moderna vaccines. The adult age groups between 18-50 being a priority.

I agree that the lack of availability of non AZ vaccines for the younger age groups may have guided the JVCI's lack of a decision on school age children.

 

The problem is that school kids have more prolonged close contact with multiple others during school hours than any other age group. With no immunity and the easing of restrictions in schools, including mask wearing and social distancing, it is inevitable that there will be rapidly increasing infection rates.

 

We may yet see a review of the guidance on the use of AZ, or an adapted AZ vaccine for the under 30s. 

 

Edited June 23, 2021 by Footballfirst

[Gizmo]

2 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Beep beep “ urgent warning “ from NS in other words stating the obvious yet again . Least there is an acknowledgment that they carried out a record number of tests yesterday ! And what comes from more tests ? More positives

 

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/nicola-sturgeon-warns-830-covid-20884108?fbclid=IwAR1RKKmyWI3bx1AihM-wy3SmTjm6XPvkvuhWXiZtbWLH2fGBBZinZ_9-H6I

It absolutely does NOT. It's a percentage of tests NOT an accumulated total. Why do you think the figures Redjambo shares is "Positive Tests" per 100K population? 

More tests = more accuracy, not more cases. 

How can you possibly have so many posts on this subject and not even a basic grasp of how this all works?

[JudyJudyJudy]

7 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

It absolutely does NOT. It's a percentage of tests NOT an accumulated total. Why do you think the figures Redjambo shares is "Positive Tests" per 100K population? 

More tests = more accuracy, not more cases. 

How can you possibly have so many posts on this subject and not even a basic grasp of how this all works?

 

[Boab]

10 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

It absolutely does NOT. It's a percentage of tests NOT an accumulated total. Why do you think the figures Redjambo shares is "Positive Tests" per 100K population? 

More tests = more accuracy, not more cases. 

How can you possibly have so many posts on this subject and not even a basic grasp of how this all works?

A wee reminder now and again that it is a thread on a football message board.

That’s all it is !