Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[kila]

1 minute ago, DETTY29 said:

Just pour vodka or gin or whatever into a hand gel bottle.

 

 

I can see some people going blind by actually drinking the alcohol gels in pubs if they were dry

 

[DETTY29]

Just now, kila said:

 

 

I can see some people going blind by actually drinking the alcohol gels in pubs if they were dry

 

Could all be fake news but heard stories of London Underground removing hand sanitising stations because number of homeless nicking them and of folk leaving 'dry' pubs plastered becayse they were putting spirits into their own ha d sanitiser bottles.

[manaliveits105]

9 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

The number of people who required to be vaccinated in groups 1 and 2 by 5th February was 555,000. With a day's vaccinations still to be counted 742,000 people have been vaccinated, extended to over 70s etc., but includes more than 90% of the over 80s.

 

Do you view it as a failure to hit the target, if there is a percentage of over 80s who don't want the vaccine, or were unable to take up their appointments for any of a multitude of reasons but have been rescheduled, or perhaps have an appointment for a home vaccination in the next few days?

 

I view it as a huge success.   

If you set a target and dont meet it you have failed - more army medics requested earlier going round homes for example could have had all over 80s who dont have covid or other complications vaccinated . At any rate the target has been missed whether they catch up later or not but as usual with the SG failure is the new success .

[Footballfirst]

2 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

If you set a target and dont meet it you have failed - more army medics requested earlier going round homes for example could have had all over 80s who dont have covid or other complications vaccinated . At any rate the target has been missed whether they catch up later or not but as usual with the SG failure is the new success .

So your view is that hitting 99% of your target is a 100% failure.  I view it as a 99% success.

[frankblack]

4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

So your view is that hitting 99% of your target is a 100% failure.  I view it as a 99% success.

The problem appears to be organisation of supply with the GPs not getting any or little supply on time and not being able to therefore book the appointments.

[Weakened Offender]

1 hour ago, Rupert Pupkin said:

My mum has just had her vaccination appointment.. She lives in Loanhead , and has to go to Craigmillar Medical Centre... She doesn’t drive , so it’s a bit of a trek for her.. Thought they were doing them at Bonnyrigg Community Hospital.

Utter madness, though I’m glad she is getting it.

On another note, my 90 yr old Gran still hasn’t had her appointment made.😡

 

It's hardly utter madness. 

[Doctor FinnBarr]

4 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

It's hardly utter madness. 

 

The utter madness was when I needed tested, Edinburgh Airport (13 miles), Calander Park Falkirk (13 miles) or Prestwick Airport (60 miles) were my options when There's a testing station a 5 minute walk from my house in Blackburn.

[Weakened Offender]

13 minutes ago, FinnBarr Saunders said:

 

The utter madness was when I needed tested, Edinburgh Airport (13 miles), Calander Park Falkirk (13 miles) or Prestwick Airport (60 miles) were my options when There's a testing station a 5 minute walk from my house in Blackburn.

 

That's bonkers, not utter madness. 

[Weakened Offender]

39 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

If you set a target and dont meet it you have failed - more army medics requested earlier going round homes for example could have had all over 80s who dont have covid or other complications vaccinated . At any rate the target has been missed whether they catch up later or not but as usual with the SG failure is the new success .

 

Blah blah blah blah. 

[manaliveits105]

1 minute ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Blah blah blah blah. 

[Weakened Offender]

6 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

 

It was more insightful than anything you've posted on this thread, particularly your latest 'the target has been missed whether they catch up or not' gem. 😁

 

You must wake up every day hating being Scottish. How utterly pathetic. 😊

[DETTY29]

43915 (27515 last Friday) 1st doses vaccinated yesterday, now up to 786427.  Maybe a wee bit disappointing not to be staying close to yesterday's high and a 9% decrease.

 

• 29,817 care home residents (99% of residents in older adult care homes and 93% of residents in all care homes)
• 40,225 care home staff (89% of staff in older adult care homes and 77% of staff in all care homes)
• 231,972 people aged 80 or over living in the community (93%) – this excludes care home residents who are reported separately
• 272,365 frontline health and social care workers exceeding the initial target of 230,000 staff provided by Health Boards.
• 105,855 people aged 75-79 living in the community (56%) – this excludes care home residents who are reported separately
• 56,110 people aged 70-74 living in the community (20%) – this excludes care home residents who are reported separately.  

 

Edited February 6, 2021 by DETTY29

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 6 February 2021

Summary

• 895 new cases of COVID-19 reported [=]
• 17,940 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 5.9% of these were positive [-4,003; +1.0%]
• 48 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-13]
• 117 people are in intensive care with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-6]
• 1,729 people are in hospital with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-65]
• 786,427 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 10,332 have received their second dose [+43,915; +803]

[Francis Albert]

Latest in England is that pubs and restaurants in England may open in April but only if they do not serve alcohol. Professor Whitty and other experts apparently believe this restriction is necessary to maintain social distancing. In a restaurant how does serving wine or beer with a meal threaten social distancing? And since the Virus arrived pubs, if well run, have been among the easiest places in my experience to maintain social distancing.

 

If the argument is that alcohol loosens inhibitions and makes people less able or willing to obey rules like social distancing then the only logical thing to do is to ban alcohol full stop. (Sorry not meaning to give Nicola ideas). 

[Weakened Offender]

7 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

43915 1st doses vaccinated yesterday, now up to 786427.

 

• 29,817 care home residents (99% of residents in older adult care homes and 93% of residents in all care homes)
• 40,225 care home staff (89% of staff in older adult care homes and 77% of staff in all care homes)
• 231,972 people aged 80 or over living in the community (93%) – this excludes care home residents who are reported separately
• 272,365 frontline health and social care workers exceeding the initial target of 230,000 staff provided by Health Boards.
• 105,855 people aged 75-79 living in the community (56%) – this excludes care home residents who are reported separately
• 56,110 people aged 70-74 living in the community (20%) – this excludes care home residents who are reported separately.  

 

 

Excellent figures. It's going well. 😊

[The Real Maroonblood]

26 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Blah blah blah blah. 

[DETTY29]

7 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Excellent figures. It's going well. 😊

I've edited slightly because there has been a 9% drop on first doses from yesterday but surely doing this pandemic is that we have learned not to look at one snapshot piece of data to determine an arguement  or case, but look as trends of at least weekly basis.

Edited February 6, 2021 by DETTY29

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Excellent figures. It's going well. 😊

But but but.

☺️

[Weakened Offender]

1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

But but but.

☺️

 

😁

 

Imagine how RAGING they'll be when the Scottish vaccination figures are STREETS AHEAD of the English figures? 😀

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

😁

 

Imagine how RAGING they'll be when the Scottish vaccination figures are STREETS AHEAD of the English figures? 😀

The seethe will be outstanding. 

[redjambo]

The latest 7-day stats:

 

		Pre-	7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Lockdown	Today	Yesterday			4 Feb	3 Feb	2 Feb	1 Feb	31 Jan	...	20 Dec
Scotland			119	121	-2		125	126	132	138	136	...	98
Falkirk	4	2	243	226	+17		218	194	178	173	156	...	60
Clackmannanshire	4	3	186	179	+7		171	171	177	159	173	...	148
North Lanarkshire	4	3	181	183	-2		192	202	216	224	221	...	119
West Dunbartonshire	4	3	180	180	0		170	175	166	171	171	...	120
Glasgow City	4	3	176	183	-7		190	190	199	209	212	...	129
Renfrewshire	4	3	166	173	-7		179	173	174	176	169	...	116
South Lanarkshire	4	3	161	162	-1		176	178	187	197	191	...	120
East Ayrshire	4	3	157	152	+5		155	162	169	173	192	...	153
North Ayrshire	4	3	153	157	-4		169	170	180	189	197	...	175
East Renfrewshire	4	3	144	149	-5		154	169	185	191	174	...	101
Stirling	4	3	139	134	+5		136	132	138	143	140	...	70
Dundee City	4	3	131	127	+4		126	125	124	122	103	...	113
Inverclyde	4	2	130	140	-10		140	134	147	153	148	...	59
East Dunbartonshire	4	3	129	140	-11		155	164	173	179	178	...	70
West Lothian	4	3	126	130	-4		138	134	145	149	142	...	83
Angus	4	2	121	111	+10		108	101	120	133	136	...	37
South Ayrshire	4	3	106	112	-6		123	123	128	135	134	...	98
Argyll & Bute	4/3	2	97	98	-1		89	84	80	82	75	...	29
Wee Free Country	4	1	97	86	+11		82	97	97	75	71	...	22
Dumfries & Galloway	4	1	92	101	-9		103	111	133	138	142	...	32
East Lothian	4	3	92	86	+6		91	81	78	76	77	...	148
Midlothian	4	3	85	100	-15		105	101	117	123	118	...	136
Moray	4	1	82	81	+1		83	95	90	99	104	...	13
Perth and Kinross	4	3	79	91	-12		99	104	109	116	122	...	126
Fife	4	3	70	70	0		78	81	84	86	83	...	97
Edinburgh City	4	3	67	62	+5		66	68	71	76	73	...	109
Scottish Borders	4	1	63	66	-3		76	69	77	82	79	...	85
Highland	4/3	1	59	59	0		59	64	64	73	75	...	17
Aberdeenshire	4	3	55	64	-9		62	58	67	71	71	...	88
Aberdeen City	4	3	52	55	-3		58	66	74	80	80	...	163
Orkney Islands	3	1	4	4	0		4	9	9	22	27	...	0
Shetland Islands	3	1	0	0	0		0	0	0	4	9	...	0
7-day averages
Tests			18252	18840	-588		19038	18793	19328	19484	19457	...	16839
Positivity rate %			6.1	6.0	+0.1		6.2	6.3	6.5	6.7	6.6	...	5.2
Hospital (non-ICU)			1731	1760	-29		1780	1802	1821	1830	1837	...	975
ICU			132	136	-4		139	141	143	144	145	...	50
Deaths			47	49	-2		50	54	55	57	57	...	25
All Vaccinations			35122	32742	+2380		N/A	27062	25023	23258	23520
1st Dose			34737	32394	+2343		N/A	26753	24697	22928	23176
2nd Dose			385	348	+37		N/A	309	326	330	344

[Weakened Offender]

1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

The seethe will be outstanding. 

 

I can't wait to read the sad-acts' lies and nonsense when that happens. 😁

[sadj]

1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

The number of people who required to be vaccinated in groups 1 and 2 by 5th February was 555,000. With a day's vaccinations still to be counted 742,000 people have been vaccinated, extended to over 70s etc., but includes more than 90% of the over 80s.

 

Do you view it as a failure to hit the target, if there is a percentage of over 80s who don't want the vaccine, or were unable to take up their appointments for any of a multitude of reasons but have been rescheduled, or perhaps have an appointment for a home vaccination in the next few days?

 

I view it as a huge success.   

^^^^🤘🏻👌🏻

52 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

I think the roll out across the UK has been a success, can’t stand the petty point scoring. 

Agreed

33 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Really don’t understand your huge negativity to Scottish success(which id deem this position as) and the wish to be like England for better or worse with no tangible debate about things. Its peoples lives and mental wellbeing not something you should be using to justify your political view or apparent dislike of Scotland.

[Footballfirst]

5 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest 7-day stats:

 

		Pre-	7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Lockdown	Today	Yesterday			4 Feb	3 Feb	2 Feb	1 Feb	31 Jan	...	20 Dec
Scotland			119	121	-2		125	126	132	138	136	...	98
Falkirk	4	2	243	226	+17		218	194	178	173	156	...	60
Clackmannanshire	4	3	186	179	+7		171	171	177	159	173	...	148
North Lanarkshire	4	3	181	183	-2		192	202	216	224	221	...	119
West Dunbartonshire	4	3	180	180	0		170	175	166	171	171	...	120
Glasgow City	4	3	176	183	-7		190	190	199	209	212	...	129
Renfrewshire	4	3	166	173	-7		179	173	174	176	169	...	116
South Lanarkshire	4	3	161	162	-1		176	178	187	197	191	...	120
East Ayrshire	4	3	157	152	+5		155	162	169	173	192	...	153
North Ayrshire	4	3	153	157	-4		169	170	180	189	197	...	175
East Renfrewshire	4	3	144	149	-5		154	169	185	191	174	...	101
Stirling	4	3	139	134	+5		136	132	138	143	140	...	70
Dundee City	4	3	131	127	+4		126	125	124	122	103	...	113
Inverclyde	4	2	130	140	-10		140	134	147	153	148	...	59
East Dunbartonshire	4	3	129	140	-11		155	164	173	179	178	...	70
West Lothian	4	3	126	130	-4		138	134	145	149	142	...	83
Angus	4	2	121	111	+10		108	101	120	133	136	...	37
South Ayrshire	4	3	106	112	-6		123	123	128	135	134	...	98
Argyll & Bute	4/3	2	97	98	-1		89	84	80	82	75	...	29
Wee Free Country	4	1	97	86	+11		82	97	97	75	71	...	22
Dumfries & Galloway	4	1	92	101	-9		103	111	133	138	142	...	32
East Lothian	4	3	92	86	+6		91	81	78	76	77	...	148
Midlothian	4	3	85	100	-15		105	101	117	123	118	...	136
Moray	4	1	82	81	+1		83	95	90	99	104	...	13
Perth and Kinross	4	3	79	91	-12		99	104	109	116	122	...	126
Fife	4	3	70	70	0		78	81	84	86	83	...	97
Edinburgh City	4	3	67	62	+5		66	68	71	76	73	...	109
Scottish Borders	4	1	63	66	-3		76	69	77	82	79	...	85
Highland	4/3	1	59	59	0		59	64	64	73	75	...	17
Aberdeenshire	4	3	55	64	-9		62	58	67	71	71	...	88
Aberdeen City	4	3	52	55	-3		58	66	74	80	80	...	163
Orkney Islands	3	1	4	4	0		4	9	9	22	27	...	0
Shetland Islands	3	1	0	0	0		0	0	0	4	9	...	0
7-day averages
Tests			18252	18840	-588		19038	18793	19328	19484	19457	...	16839
Positivity rate %			6.1	6.0	+0.1		6.2	6.3	6.5	6.7	6.6	...	5.2
Hospital (non-ICU)			1731	1760	-29		1780	1802	1821	1830	1837	...	975
ICU			132	136	-4		139	141	143	144	145	...	50
Deaths			47	49	-2		50	54	55	57	57	...	25
All Vaccinations			35122	32742	+2380		N/A	27062	25023	23258	23520
1st Dose			34737	32394	+2343		N/A	26753	24697	22928	23176
2nd Dose			385	348	+37		N/A	309	326	330	344

A good direction of travel from most of the stats.

 

A couple of negatives behind those numbers though. Edinburgh's 70 cases is up on previous days.  ICU admissions at 17 was the highest since 21st January

Edited February 6, 2021 by Footballfirst

[DETTY29]

Over 80s in community @93% is still based on initial target of 250k which it's believed needs revised downways by several thousand.

 

18028 still to do to meet original target.

 

 

[Enzo Chiefo]

14 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

Latest in England is that pubs and restaurants in England may open in April but only if they do not serve alcohol. Professor Whitty and other experts apparently believe this restriction is necessary to maintain social distancing. In a restaurant how does serving wine or beer with a meal threaten social distancing? And since the Virus arrived pubs, if well run, have been among the easiest places in my experience to maintain social distancing.

 

If the argument is that alcohol loosens inhibitions and makes people less able or willing to obey rules like social distancing then the only logical thing to do is to ban alcohol full stop. (Sorry not meaning to give Nicola ideas). 

Is it not about time we told Chris Whitty that he is now starting to look through the wrong end of the telescope? How did we arrive at a point when a modelling scientist is telling the population what they can do and where they can go? Once the most vulnerable are vaccinated our micromanaging of Covid, it's variants, daily reporting etc needs to end. It will be there, may spread,  as most viruses do, and people may fall ill and die with or from it. That is no different to any other winter respiratory related hospitalisation season. The national Covid obsession needs to have an end date and the nation needs to resume life.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

10 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

Latest in England is that pubs and restaurants in England may open in April but only if they do not serve alcohol. Professor Whitty and other experts apparently believe this restriction is necessary to maintain social distancing. In a restaurant how does serving wine or beer with a meal threaten social distancing? And since the Virus arrived pubs, if well run, have been among the easiest places in my experience to maintain social distancing.

 

If the argument is that alcohol loosens inhibitions and makes people less able or willing to obey rules like social distancing then the only logical thing to do is to ban alcohol full stop. (Sorry not meaning to give Nicola ideas). 

 

We're no back to this covid knows the difference between a beer and a cup of latte shite, again.

 

Restaurants are the easiest places to monitor for the amount of alcohol being served.

Only people from the same family/bubble can sit at the same table, you can only have two alcoholic drinks per person per meal, drinks can only be ordered from your table and it's table service only.........it's not rocket science.

[Nucky Thompson]

14 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

😁

 

Imagine how RAGING they'll be when the Scottish vaccination figures are STREETS AHEAD of the English figures? 😀

We wouldn't be streets ahead of anyone if it wasn't for the UK governments vaccine policy.

[Dagger Is Back]

11 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest 7-day stats:

 

		Pre-	7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Lockdown	Today	Yesterday			4 Feb	3 Feb	2 Feb	1 Feb	31 Jan	...	20 Dec
Scotland			119	121	-2		125	126	132	138	136	...	98
Falkirk	4	2	243	226	+17		218	194	178	173	156	...	60
Clackmannanshire	4	3	186	179	+7		171	171	177	159	173	...	148
North Lanarkshire	4	3	181	183	-2		192	202	216	224	221	...	119
West Dunbartonshire	4	3	180	180	0		170	175	166	171	171	...	120
Glasgow City	4	3	176	183	-7		190	190	199	209	212	...	129
Renfrewshire	4	3	166	173	-7		179	173	174	176	169	...	116
South Lanarkshire	4	3	161	162	-1		176	178	187	197	191	...	120
East Ayrshire	4	3	157	152	+5		155	162	169	173	192	...	153
North Ayrshire	4	3	153	157	-4		169	170	180	189	197	...	175
East Renfrewshire	4	3	144	149	-5		154	169	185	191	174	...	101
Stirling	4	3	139	134	+5		136	132	138	143	140	...	70
Dundee City	4	3	131	127	+4		126	125	124	122	103	...	113
Inverclyde	4	2	130	140	-10		140	134	147	153	148	...	59
East Dunbartonshire	4	3	129	140	-11		155	164	173	179	178	...	70
West Lothian	4	3	126	130	-4		138	134	145	149	142	...	83
Angus	4	2	121	111	+10		108	101	120	133	136	...	37
South Ayrshire	4	3	106	112	-6		123	123	128	135	134	...	98
Argyll & Bute	4/3	2	97	98	-1		89	84	80	82	75	...	29
Wee Free Country	4	1	97	86	+11		82	97	97	75	71	...	22
Dumfries & Galloway	4	1	92	101	-9		103	111	133	138	142	...	32
East Lothian	4	3	92	86	+6		91	81	78	76	77	...	148
Midlothian	4	3	85	100	-15		105	101	117	123	118	...	136
Moray	4	1	82	81	+1		83	95	90	99	104	...	13
Perth and Kinross	4	3	79	91	-12		99	104	109	116	122	...	126
Fife	4	3	70	70	0		78	81	84	86	83	...	97
Edinburgh City	4	3	67	62	+5		66	68	71	76	73	...	109
Scottish Borders	4	1	63	66	-3		76	69	77	82	79	...	85
Highland	4/3	1	59	59	0		59	64	64	73	75	...	17
Aberdeenshire	4	3	55	64	-9		62	58	67	71	71	...	88
Aberdeen City	4	3	52	55	-3		58	66	74	80	80	...	163
Orkney Islands	3	1	4	4	0		4	9	9	22	27	...	0
Shetland Islands	3	1	0	0	0		0	0	0	4	9	...	0
7-day averages
Tests			18252	18840	-588		19038	18793	19328	19484	19457	...	16839
Positivity rate %			6.1	6.0	+0.1		6.2	6.3	6.5	6.7	6.6	...	5.2
Hospital (non-ICU)			1731	1760	-29		1780	1802	1821	1830	1837	...	975
ICU			132	136	-4		139	141	143	144	145	...	50
Deaths			47	49	-2		50	54	55	57	57	...	25
All Vaccinations			35122	32742	+2380		N/A	27062	25023	23258	23520
1st Dose			34737	32394	+2343		N/A	26753	24697	22928	23176
2nd Dose			385	348	+37		N/A	309	326	330	344

 

Thank you. 

[sadj]

1 minute ago, Nucky Thompson said:

We wouldn't be streets ahead of anyone if it wasn't for the UK governments vaccine policy.

Stop bloody trolling you 🤣
 

We’d be far further ahead than just streets 😉

Edited February 6, 2021 by sadj

[Footballfirst]

2 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Over 80s in community @93% is still based on initial target of 250k which it's believed needs revised downways by several thousand.

 

18028 still to do to meet original target.

84,145 in the 75-79 age group still to be done by 15 February.

Similarly 123,890 in the 70-74 age range.

 

10 days to meet the  next target, 208,035 @ 20,804 a day looks easily achievable, although there are two Sundays within that time frame.

[Weakened Offender]

Just now, Nucky Thompson said:

We wouldn't be streets ahead of anyone if it wasn't for the UK governments vaccine policy.

 

We wouldn't have the worst death toll in the world if it wasn't for the UK government's deliberately shambolic handling of the pandemic. 

[redjambo]

2 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

A good direction of travel from most of the stats.

 

A couple of negatives behind those numbers though. Edinburgh's 70 cases is up on previous days.  ICU admissions at 17 was the highest since 21st January

 

I was unaware of that. As you say, not so good. I'm personally less concerned about Edinburgh - there are always going to be fluctuations. Falkirk and Clackmannanshire on the other hand... Also, there are a fair few councils who were historically near the bottom of the case rate rankings but who have been sluggish in getting back down there again since the festive surge, including several of those who were in tiers 1 and 2.

 

But generally, yup, we're still heading in the right direction. We've just got to be efficient in hitting the local spikes and clusters when they arise.

[Nucky Thompson]

1 minute ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

We wouldn't have the worst death toll in the world if it wasn't for the UK government's deliberately shambolic handling of the pandemic. 

Correct, but all UK devolved governments included 

[sadj]

2 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

We wouldn't have the worst death toll in the world if it wasn't for the UK government's deliberately shambolic handling of the pandemic. 

Deliberately? 

[Weakened Offender]

Just now, sadj said:

Deliberately? 

 

I would say so. 

[sadj]

1 minute ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

I would say so. 

In what way or for what purpose?

[Nucky Thompson]

3 minutes ago, sadj said:

Stop bloody trolling you 🤣
 

We’d be far further ahead than just streets 😉

Not trolling Sadj.

It's the only thing the UK government have got right to be fair.

 

[redjambo]

Just so we can have stats behind the argument about the UK's death toll, here's the latest ranking from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (refer to the last column):

 

We're not the worst, but we're not far off it.

 

 

[Weakened Offender]

2 minutes ago, sadj said:

In what way or for what purpose?

 

I certainly don't think protecting the NHS was ever too high up on this government's priorities. 

[redjambo]

3 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

My old dear has been done during the week. The mother in law has just been done about an hour ago. 
 

My dad has been written to say he can’t be vaccinated due to allergy concerns, he will be vaccinated at some point in the future in hospital. Slightly surprised as thought the allergy concern related to Pzifer not Oxford. I think it would be fair to say he is far from pleased and just desperate to get vaccinated. 
 

The father in law who is oldest and pretty high risk health wise still hasn’t received letter. He therefore phones up number advised to find out situation and was told just to wait for a letter. Think his blood pressure might take him out before the COVID if he doesn’t get his letter soon. 
 

Hopefully, they both get done in the immediate future. 

 

Might be worth your father-in-law contacting his GP if he hasn't done so already.

[Weakened Offender]

2 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Just so we can have stats behind the argument about the UK's death toll, here's the latest ranking from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (refer to the last column):

 

We're not the worst, but we're not far off it.

 

 

 

Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory. 😊

[DETTY29]

9 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

My old dear has been done during the week. The mother in law has just been done about an hour ago. 
 

My dad has been written to say he can’t be vaccinated due to allergy concerns, he will be vaccinated at some point in the future in hospital. Slightly surprised as thought the allergy concern related to Pzifer not Oxford. I think it would be fair to say he is far from pleased and just desperate to get vaccinated. 
 

The father in law who is oldest and pretty high risk health wise still hasn’t received letter. He therefore phones up number advised to find out situation and was told just to wait for a letter. Think his blood pressure might take him out before the COVID if he doesn’t get his letter soon. 
 

Hopefully, they both get done in the immediate future. 

What age is your father in law?

 

Hopefully he gets his jag soon but is he in a missed cohort target date?

 

I think the call handler could have been more helpful, or been provided with (the call handler) more detail as where his health board are in sending out letters or whether it is a GP call.

Edited February 6, 2021 by DETTY29

[The Internet]

Just now, Weakened Offender said:

 

I certainly don't think protecting the NHS was ever too high up on this government's priorities. 

 

It was their only priority tbf. They worked on the basis that as long as the nhs doesn't collapse = success and drummed that into us from day 1 

[redjambo]

Just now, Weakened Offender said:

 

Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory. 😊

 

There should be a filter on that site to allow you to filter out microstates and very small territories as their small populations mean that the per-capita rates can be affected markedly by only small changes in the base figures.

 

I know it wasn't the point that you were making, but for the table I posted, just ignore Gibraltar and San Marino. We're effectively third worst, behind Belgium and Slovenia.

[Weakened Offender]

1 minute ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

 

It was their only priority tbf. They worked on the basis that as long as the nhs doesn't collapse = success and drummed that into us from day 1 

 

They made a right good job of that then. 

[manaliveits105]

FFS are people really desperate to be worst in the world so they can moan about the toaries - unbelievably sad .

[The Real Maroonblood]

36 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest 7-day stats:

 

		Pre-	7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Lockdown	Today	Yesterday			4 Feb	3 Feb	2 Feb	1 Feb	31 Jan	...	20 Dec
Scotland			119	121	-2		125	126	132	138	136	...	98
Falkirk	4	2	243	226	+17		218	194	178	173	156	...	60
Clackmannanshire	4	3	186	179	+7		171	171	177	159	173	...	148
North Lanarkshire	4	3	181	183	-2		192	202	216	224	221	...	119
West Dunbartonshire	4	3	180	180	0		170	175	166	171	171	...	120
Glasgow City	4	3	176	183	-7		190	190	199	209	212	...	129
Renfrewshire	4	3	166	173	-7		179	173	174	176	169	...	116
South Lanarkshire	4	3	161	162	-1		176	178	187	197	191	...	120
East Ayrshire	4	3	157	152	+5		155	162	169	173	192	...	153
North Ayrshire	4	3	153	157	-4		169	170	180	189	197	...	175
East Renfrewshire	4	3	144	149	-5		154	169	185	191	174	...	101
Stirling	4	3	139	134	+5		136	132	138	143	140	...	70
Dundee City	4	3	131	127	+4		126	125	124	122	103	...	113
Inverclyde	4	2	130	140	-10		140	134	147	153	148	...	59
East Dunbartonshire	4	3	129	140	-11		155	164	173	179	178	...	70
West Lothian	4	3	126	130	-4		138	134	145	149	142	...	83
Angus	4	2	121	111	+10		108	101	120	133	136	...	37
South Ayrshire	4	3	106	112	-6		123	123	128	135	134	...	98
Argyll & Bute	4/3	2	97	98	-1		89	84	80	82	75	...	29
Wee Free Country	4	1	97	86	+11		82	97	97	75	71	...	22
Dumfries & Galloway	4	1	92	101	-9		103	111	133	138	142	...	32
East Lothian	4	3	92	86	+6		91	81	78	76	77	...	148
Midlothian	4	3	85	100	-15		105	101	117	123	118	...	136
Moray	4	1	82	81	+1		83	95	90	99	104	...	13
Perth and Kinross	4	3	79	91	-12		99	104	109	116	122	...	126
Fife	4	3	70	70	0		78	81	84	86	83	...	97
Edinburgh City	4	3	67	62	+5		66	68	71	76	73	...	109
Scottish Borders	4	1	63	66	-3		76	69	77	82	79	...	85
Highland	4/3	1	59	59	0		59	64	64	73	75	...	17
Aberdeenshire	4	3	55	64	-9		62	58	67	71	71	...	88
Aberdeen City	4	3	52	55	-3		58	66	74	80	80	...	163
Orkney Islands	3	1	4	4	0		4	9	9	22	27	...	0
Shetland Islands	3	1	0	0	0		0	0	0	4	9	...	0
7-day averages
Tests			18252	18840	-588		19038	18793	19328	19484	19457	...	16839
Positivity rate %			6.1	6.0	+0.1		6.2	6.3	6.5	6.7	6.6	...	5.2
Hospital (non-ICU)			1731	1760	-29		1780	1802	1821	1830	1837	...	975
ICU			132	136	-4		139	141	143	144	145	...	50
Deaths			47	49	-2		50	54	55	57	57	...	25
All Vaccinations			35122	32742	+2380		N/A	27062	25023	23258	23520
1st Dose			34737	32394	+2343		N/A	26753	24697	22928	23176
2nd Dose			385	348	+37		N/A	309	326	330	344

👍

[redjambo]

5 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

FFS are people really desperate to be worst in the world so they can moan about the toaries - unbelievably sad .

 

No-one is "desperate" to be the worst in the world. Stop being an arse please.

[JudyJudyJudy]

23 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I was unaware of that. As you say, not so good. I'm personally less concerned about Edinburgh - there are always going to be fluctuations. Falkirk and Clackmannanshire on the other hand... Also, there are a fair few councils who were historically near the bottom of the case rate rankings but who have been sluggish in getting back down there again since the festive surge, including several of those who were in tiers 1 and 2.

 

But generally, yup, we're still heading in the right direction. We've just got to be efficient in hitting the local spikes and clusters when they arise.

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19 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

My old dear has been done during the week. The mother in law has just been done about an hour ago. 
 

My dad has been written to say he can’t be vaccinated due to allergy concerns, he will be vaccinated at some point in the future in hospital. Slightly surprised as thought the allergy concern related to Pzifer not Oxford. I think it would be fair to say he is far from pleased and just desperate to get vaccinated. 
 

The father in law who is oldest and pretty high risk health wise still hasn’t received letter. He therefore phones up number advised to find out situation and was told just to wait for a letter. Think his blood pressure might take him out before the COVID if he doesn’t get his letter soon. 
 

Hopefully, they both get done in the immediate future. 

👍