manaliveits105 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Great day for the UK with the Oxford Astra Zeneca announcement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Scottish numbers: 30 December 2020 Summary 2,045 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+150] 19,722 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 11.3% of these were positive [+5,543; -3.1%] 43 new reported deaths of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices have been closed over the public holidays) [+36] 69 people are in intensive care with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+4] 1,133 people are in hospital with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+41] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) . Edited December 30, 2020 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 10 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: Devolution and reserved matters is the difference. Air travel is devolved. Please explain, instead of deflecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Per-100,000 case stats around the boards: Scotland 37 [+2]. Dumfries & Galloway 62 [-9], Greater Glasgow 52 [+8], Lanarkshire 45 [+2], Borders 43 [-8]. Ayrshire 38 [+1], Forth Valley 31 [+1], Grampian 31 [+3], Shetland 31 [-30], Tayside 31 [-4]. Fife 29 [+13], Lothian 28 [-3], Highland 21 [+10], Western Isles 4 [+4], Orkney 0 [=]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: I don't care what they don't do. It'll just prove again what Scots are to the WM Elite. A post pandemic independent Scotland is but months away. Tick Tock. And you can blame the shite cook for this btw. He opened the anti Scottish door and I'm not gonnae ignore it. Robin Cook? My old mate? Not really but I did canvass with him as a student in Central Edinburgh when he was first elected nearly 50 years ago. Strange thing for an alleged right wing Tory but true. I assume that makes me a traitor by association. Has the SNP thought of a Traitors Gate at the Castle like the one at the Tower of London where effigies of Scottish traitors could be hung? Could be a tourist attraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, redjambo said: Scottish numbers: 30 December 2020 Summary 2,045 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+150] 19,722 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 11.3% of these were positive [+5,543; -3.1%] 43 new reported deaths of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices have been closed over the public holidays) [+36] 69 people are in intensive care with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+4] 1,133 people are in hospital with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+41] Is there a lag with 2000 in one day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just back from Tesco Penicuik. Everyone in masks.....except pretty much every teenager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Is there a lag with 2000 in one day? Let's hope so. 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Is there a lag with 2000 in one day? Yes, I imagine that there still will be. However, if you take the cumulative results announced yesterday and those announced today, we're still talking a major upswing in cases. It's not the prettiest of pictures at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 More good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Robin Cook? My old mate? Not really but I did canvass with him as a student in Central Edinburgh when he was first elected nearly 50 years ago. Strange thing for an alleged right wing Tory but true. I assume that makes me a traitor by association. Has the SNP thought of a Traitors Gate at the Castle like the one at the Tower of London where effigies of Scottish traitors could be hung? Could be a tourist attraction. He was a decent principled man , Cook . Still think it was rather fishy regarding his death . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 The latest per-capita 7-day rates across the councils. The festive period and its immediate run-up have obviously caused quite an upsurge in covid cases all over Scotland, and we still have Hogmanay to come. 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area Tier Previous Today Yesterday ... 24 Dec 23 Dec 22 Dec 21 Dec 20 Dec Scotland 170 154 +16 ... 125 130 121 112 98 Inverclyde 4 2 279 213 +66 ... 131 107 86 73 59 North Lanarkshire 4 3 240 212 +28 ... 162 143 131 131 119 East Renfrewshire 4 3 239 199 +40 ... 178 164 147 129 101 Dundee City 4 3 238 220 +18 ... 175 149 129 119 113 Renfrewshire 4 3 238 205 +33 ... 174 159 147 122 116 East Ayrshire 4 3 227 215 +12 ... 203 178 168 154 153 Glasgow City 4 3 218 194 +24 ... 173 167 153 135 129 Scottish Borders 4 1 194 165 +29 ... 114 105 106 100 85 South Lanarkshire 4 3 192 196 -4 ... 170 158 133 129 120 Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 189 135 +54 ... 61 58 54 40 32 North Ayrshire 4 3 186 186 0 ... 201 203 193 189 175 Aberdeen City 4 3 178 170 +8 ... 193 189 176 162 163 Edinburgh City 4 3 175 160 +15 ... 146 135 129 122 109 East Dunbartonshire 4 3 164 134 +30 ... 119 108 102 91 70 West Dunbartonshire 4 3 156 134 +22 ... 153 150 145 126 120 Aberdeenshire 4 3 151 147 +4 ... 133 127 118 106 88 Shetland Islands 3 1 148 122 +26 ... 17 9 4 4 0 Midlothian 4 3 143 134 +9 ... 136 133 139 136 136 Angus 4 2 141 131 +10 ... 81 71 64 52 37 Falkirk 4 2 135 123 +12 ... 96 93 84 80 60 Perth and Kinross 4 3 129 134 -5 ... 161 143 144 139 126 East Lothian 4 3 128 127 +1 ... 157 163 172 174 148 Fife 4 3 127 116 +11 ... 122 117 111 107 97 Stirling 4 3 113 117 -4 ... 107 110 91 94 70 South Ayrshire 4 3 112 113 -1 ... 110 104 95 97 98 Clackmannanshire 4 3 109 82 +27 ... 132 146 144 150 148 West Lothian 4 3 98 90 +8 ... 106 103 103 97 83 Highland 4 1 80 63 +17 ... 41 31 28 24 17 Argyll and Bute 4 2 63 51 +12 ... 35 43 41 38 29 Moray 4 1 58 52 +6 ... 50 53 41 26 13 Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 11 7 +4 ... 7 7 11 15 22 Orkney Islands 3 1 4 4 0 ... 0 0 0 0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 A study just in has found the new strain infects people with a greater viral load making it 50% more contagious. It doesn't appear to cause more severe illness, but more cases will result in more mortality The study also suggested children are not markedly more susceptible to the new variant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: He was a decent principled man , Cook . Still think it was rather fishy regarding his death . Did he not have a heart attack climbing a mountain on holiday whilst in the Highlands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, redjambo said: The latest per-capita 7-day rates across the councils. The festive period and its immediate run-up have obviously caused quite an upsurge in covid cases all over Scotland, and we still have Hogmanay to come. 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area Tier Previous Today Yesterday ... 24 Dec 23 Dec 22 Dec 21 Dec 20 Dec Scotland 170 154 +16 ... 125 130 121 112 98 Inverclyde 4 2 279 213 +66 ... 131 107 86 73 59 North Lanarkshire 4 3 240 212 +28 ... 162 143 131 131 119 East Renfrewshire 4 3 239 199 +40 ... 178 164 147 129 101 Dundee City 4 3 238 220 +18 ... 175 149 129 119 113 Renfrewshire 4 3 238 205 +33 ... 174 159 147 122 116 East Ayrshire 4 3 227 215 +12 ... 203 178 168 154 153 Glasgow City 4 3 218 194 +24 ... 173 167 153 135 129 Scottish Borders 4 1 194 165 +29 ... 114 105 106 100 85 South Lanarkshire 4 3 192 196 -4 ... 170 158 133 129 120 Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 189 135 +54 ... 61 58 54 40 32 North Ayrshire 4 3 186 186 0 ... 201 203 193 189 175 Aberdeen City 4 3 178 170 +8 ... 193 189 176 162 163 Edinburgh City 4 3 175 160 +15 ... 146 135 129 122 109 East Dunbartonshire 4 3 164 134 +30 ... 119 108 102 91 70 West Dunbartonshire 4 3 156 134 +22 ... 153 150 145 126 120 Aberdeenshire 4 3 151 147 +4 ... 133 127 118 106 88 Shetland Islands 3 1 148 122 +26 ... 17 9 4 4 0 Midlothian 4 3 143 134 +9 ... 136 133 139 136 136 Angus 4 2 141 131 +10 ... 81 71 64 52 37 Falkirk 4 2 135 123 +12 ... 96 93 84 80 60 Perth and Kinross 4 3 129 134 -5 ... 161 143 144 139 126 East Lothian 4 3 128 127 +1 ... 157 163 172 174 148 Fife 4 3 127 116 +11 ... 122 117 111 107 97 Stirling 4 3 113 117 -4 ... 107 110 91 94 70 South Ayrshire 4 3 112 113 -1 ... 110 104 95 97 98 Clackmannanshire 4 3 109 82 +27 ... 132 146 144 150 148 West Lothian 4 3 98 90 +8 ... 106 103 103 97 83 Highland 4 1 80 63 +17 ... 41 31 28 24 17 Argyll and Bute 4 2 63 51 +12 ... 35 43 41 38 29 Moray 4 1 58 52 +6 ... 50 53 41 26 13 Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 11 7 +4 ... 7 7 11 15 22 Orkney Islands 3 1 4 4 0 ... 0 0 0 0 0 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, redjambo said: The latest per-capita 7-day rates across the councils. The festive period and its immediate run-up have obviously caused quite an upsurge in covid cases all over Scotland, and we still have Hogmanay to come. 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area Tier Previous Today Yesterday ... 24 Dec 23 Dec 22 Dec 21 Dec 20 Dec Scotland 170 154 +16 ... 125 130 121 112 98 Inverclyde 4 2 279 213 +66 ... 131 107 86 73 59 North Lanarkshire 4 3 240 212 +28 ... 162 143 131 131 119 East Renfrewshire 4 3 239 199 +40 ... 178 164 147 129 101 Dundee City 4 3 238 220 +18 ... 175 149 129 119 113 Renfrewshire 4 3 238 205 +33 ... 174 159 147 122 116 East Ayrshire 4 3 227 215 +12 ... 203 178 168 154 153 Glasgow City 4 3 218 194 +24 ... 173 167 153 135 129 Scottish Borders 4 1 194 165 +29 ... 114 105 106 100 85 South Lanarkshire 4 3 192 196 -4 ... 170 158 133 129 120 Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 189 135 +54 ... 61 58 54 40 32 North Ayrshire 4 3 186 186 0 ... 201 203 193 189 175 Aberdeen City 4 3 178 170 +8 ... 193 189 176 162 163 Edinburgh City 4 3 175 160 +15 ... 146 135 129 122 109 East Dunbartonshire 4 3 164 134 +30 ... 119 108 102 91 70 West Dunbartonshire 4 3 156 134 +22 ... 153 150 145 126 120 Aberdeenshire 4 3 151 147 +4 ... 133 127 118 106 88 Shetland Islands 3 1 148 122 +26 ... 17 9 4 4 0 Midlothian 4 3 143 134 +9 ... 136 133 139 136 136 Angus 4 2 141 131 +10 ... 81 71 64 52 37 Falkirk 4 2 135 123 +12 ... 96 93 84 80 60 Perth and Kinross 4 3 129 134 -5 ... 161 143 144 139 126 East Lothian 4 3 128 127 +1 ... 157 163 172 174 148 Fife 4 3 127 116 +11 ... 122 117 111 107 97 Stirling 4 3 113 117 -4 ... 107 110 91 94 70 South Ayrshire 4 3 112 113 -1 ... 110 104 95 97 98 Clackmannanshire 4 3 109 82 +27 ... 132 146 144 150 148 West Lothian 4 3 98 90 +8 ... 106 103 103 97 83 Highland 4 1 80 63 +17 ... 41 31 28 24 17 Argyll and Bute 4 2 63 51 +12 ... 35 43 41 38 29 Moray 4 1 58 52 +6 ... 50 53 41 26 13 Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 11 7 +4 ... 7 7 11 15 22 Orkney Islands 3 1 4 4 0 ... 0 0 0 0 0 Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, redjambo said: The latest per-capita 7-day rates across the councils. The festive period and its immediate run-up have obviously caused quite an upsurge in covid cases all over Scotland, and we still have Hogmanay to come. 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area Tier Previous Today Yesterday ... 24 Dec 23 Dec 22 Dec 21 Dec 20 Dec Scotland 170 154 +16 ... 125 130 121 112 98 Inverclyde 4 2 279 213 +66 ... 131 107 86 73 59 North Lanarkshire 4 3 240 212 +28 ... 162 143 131 131 119 East Renfrewshire 4 3 239 199 +40 ... 178 164 147 129 101 Dundee City 4 3 238 220 +18 ... 175 149 129 119 113 Renfrewshire 4 3 238 205 +33 ... 174 159 147 122 116 East Ayrshire 4 3 227 215 +12 ... 203 178 168 154 153 Glasgow City 4 3 218 194 +24 ... 173 167 153 135 129 Scottish Borders 4 1 194 165 +29 ... 114 105 106 100 85 South Lanarkshire 4 3 192 196 -4 ... 170 158 133 129 120 Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 189 135 +54 ... 61 58 54 40 32 North Ayrshire 4 3 186 186 0 ... 201 203 193 189 175 Aberdeen City 4 3 178 170 +8 ... 193 189 176 162 163 Edinburgh City 4 3 175 160 +15 ... 146 135 129 122 109 East Dunbartonshire 4 3 164 134 +30 ... 119 108 102 91 70 West Dunbartonshire 4 3 156 134 +22 ... 153 150 145 126 120 Aberdeenshire 4 3 151 147 +4 ... 133 127 118 106 88 Shetland Islands 3 1 148 122 +26 ... 17 9 4 4 0 Midlothian 4 3 143 134 +9 ... 136 133 139 136 136 Angus 4 2 141 131 +10 ... 81 71 64 52 37 Falkirk 4 2 135 123 +12 ... 96 93 84 80 60 Perth and Kinross 4 3 129 134 -5 ... 161 143 144 139 126 East Lothian 4 3 128 127 +1 ... 157 163 172 174 148 Fife 4 3 127 116 +11 ... 122 117 111 107 97 Stirling 4 3 113 117 -4 ... 107 110 91 94 70 South Ayrshire 4 3 112 113 -1 ... 110 104 95 97 98 Clackmannanshire 4 3 109 82 +27 ... 132 146 144 150 148 West Lothian 4 3 98 90 +8 ... 106 103 103 97 83 Highland 4 1 80 63 +17 ... 41 31 28 24 17 Argyll and Bute 4 2 63 51 +12 ... 35 43 41 38 29 Moray 4 1 58 52 +6 ... 50 53 41 26 13 Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 11 7 +4 ... 7 7 11 15 22 Orkney Islands 3 1 4 4 0 ... 0 0 0 0 0 The Borders and D&G don't look in a good place, nor Shetland for that matter. I just wonder if the Borders and D&G are seeing huge rises due to people from Edinburgh, Glasgow & Ayrshire coming down in numbers when Edinburgh & Glasgow were still in tier 3 or 4 and we both went into tier 1. Somethings happened to cause this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Brian Dundas said: That doesn’t look good. Numbers are really taking off! Hopefully the vaccine gets going quickly Unfortunately I think it will be many weeks before we begin to see any benefit from the vaccines, February at the very earliest I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Germany really being hit hard in this second wave, over 1000 deaths yesterday. https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-german-daily-death-toll-surpasses-1000-for-1st-time/a-56090689 Edited December 30, 2020 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: The Borders and D&G don't look in a good place, nor Shetland for that matter. I just wonder if the Borders and D&G are seeing huge rises due to people from Edinburgh, Glasgow & Ayrshire coming down in numbers when Edinburgh & Glasgow were still in tier 3 or 4 and we both went into tier 1. Somethings happened to cause this. A few pint tourists on here made clear their intentions for the cup final, small country with an enormous tit population...been known for a long time, nae shock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, OBE said: A few pint tourists on here made clear their intentions for the cup final, small country with an enormous tit population...been known for a long time, nae shock! They’re not telling me what to do. Absolute muppets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 981 deaths in the UK. Fecking hell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: They’re not telling me what to do. Absolute muppets. It’s the whole of the UK. Just look at the twits in Switzerland who were told to isolate. The all left and went to France. You're no telling us what to do. The new strain is now known as the UK strain. So its Britflu now. Edited December 30, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: The Borders and D&G don't look in a good place, nor Shetland for that matter. I just wonder if the Borders and D&G are seeing huge rises due to people from Edinburgh, Glasgow & Ayrshire coming down in numbers when Edinburgh & Glasgow were still in tier 3 or 4 and we both went into tier 1. Somethings happened to cause this. Plenty people from the borders came into Edinburgh Christmas shopping so could be a case of Christmas shoppers taking it back with them rather than people heading to the borders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, OBE said: A few pint tourists on here made clear their intentions for the cup final, small country with an enormous tit population...been known for a long time, nae shock! It is clear that the SG's rules aren't working and are being ignored by a significant minority. There is little else the SG can do to harden the rules so perhaps its finally time to enforce the existing rules, namely enforcing face coverings and social distancing in shops and public transport and removing the exemption option for the selfish and ignorant. If the SG don't know why these numbers are increasing then they are incompetent as any organisation that doesn't get the management information it needs changes its data collection and reporting policies to ensure it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I'm surprised there isn't any talk about vaccinating those who still attend a physical workplace being vaccinated sooner. I guess they are either deemed collateral or that actually they aren't at much risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Taffin said: I'm surprised there isn't any talk about vaccinating those who still attend a physical workplace being vaccinated sooner. I guess they are either deemed collateral or that actually they aren't at much risk. I work outside, but I still need vaccinated for every day living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: I'm surprised there isn't any talk about vaccinating those who still attend a physical workplace being vaccinated sooner. I guess they are either deemed collateral or that actually they aren't at much risk. It would make sense to prioritise them, but wouldn't there have to be a massive data collection exercise by the NHS in order to determine who was attending a physical workspace and who wasn't? You can guarantee if they just asked everyone, a large number of folk would claim that they were attending a workplace in order to get the jab, and there's no way the NHS are going to waste time and resources verifying what they've been told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, theshed said: Plenty people from the borders came into Edinburgh Christmas shopping so could be a case of Christmas shoppers taking it back with them rather than people heading to the borders That'll explain it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Shadow education minister is giein me a sair heid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolfordsHearts Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Taffin said: I'm surprised there isn't any talk about vaccinating those who still attend a physical workplace being vaccinated sooner. I guess they are either deemed collateral or that actually they aren't at much risk. A very good point. It seems most construction companies have their office staff safely working from home whilst site operatives can travel together in vans to busy sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, redjambo said: It would make sense to prioritise them, but wouldn't there have to be a massive data collection exercise by the NHS in order to determine who was attending a physical workspace and who wasn't? You can guarantee if they just asked everyone, a large number of folk would claim that they were attending a workplace in order to get the jab, and there's no way the NHS are going to waste time and resources verifying what they've been told. True but I don't think many bus drivers, mechanics, checkout assistants and shelf stackers are doing that via laptop at home? 😂😂 There's a fairly substantial base of workers who quite clearly if still employed will have to be doing so whilst interacting with other people and the public in person. They've no real choice in their exposure to risk, whereas those of us working from home, retired are only exposed to risk through choice in the main. Edited December 30, 2020 by Taffin Just to be clear, I'm not laughing at what you said, it's a good point. Just laughing at the idea of virtual bus travel etc... probably isn't far off tbf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, redjambo said: It would make sense to prioritise them, but wouldn't there have to be a massive data collection exercise by the NHS in order to determine who was attending a physical workspace and who wasn't? You can guarantee if they just asked everyone, a large number of folk would claim that they were attending a workplace in order to get the jab, and there's no way the NHS are going to waste time and resources verifying what they've been told. Not withstanding the 'I'm no fecking given them my details, it's none of they're business where I work', type of responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, redjambo said: It would make sense to prioritise them, but wouldn't there have to be a massive data collection exercise by the NHS in order to determine who was attending a physical workspace and who wasn't? You can guarantee if they just asked everyone, a large number of folk would claim that they were attending a workplace in order to get the jab, and there's no way the NHS are going to waste time and resources verifying what they've been told. All NHS and private health staff. Teachers Police Fire brigade And the coast guard should be priority listed. Yes the coast guard to catch all those brexiteers escaping when it goes tits up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: They’re not telling me what to do. Absolute muppets. Here's you genuinely champing at the bit for a pint tae, what restraint, I applaud you sir... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ri Alban said: All NHS and private health staff. Teachers Police Fire brigade And the coast guard should be priority listed. Yes the coast guard to catch all those brexiteers escaping when it goes tits up. Why a teacher or the police but not someone in a petrol station or a supermarket? I agree the above should be, but I don't think it should stop there. Edit: and just to be clear I'm not one of the people I'm talking about, and I've already voiced my personal opinion on the vaccine...before anyone accuses me of angling to 'queue' jump! Edited December 30, 2020 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, ri Alban said: 981 deaths in the UK. Fecking hell! Which makes the statement 'that it hardly kills anybody', which was pushed by some on here a few months ago, look all the more stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Taffin said: True but I don't think many bus drivers, mechanics, checkout assistants and shelf stackers are doing that via laptop at home? 😂😂 There's a fairly substantial base of workers who quite clearly if still employed will have to be doing so whilst interacting with other people and the public in person. They've no real choice in their exposure to risk, whereas those of us working from home, retired are only exposed to risk through choice in the main. I definitely agree that it would be beneficial to prioritise "contact" workers, Taffin, I'm just trying to figure out how it could be done. For large institutions, it's relatively easy. For example, for front-line health workers etc., the NHS can get the information from their own files and from care homes and other such establishments. For say a bus company, you could ask the bus company for a list of their employees. However, the smaller the company gets, and there are a large number of SMEs out there, you start to get to the point where the resources consumed in the collection of the data would be out of proportion to the benefit, especially given that NHS admin resources are, I imagine, stretched at the moment in getting this vaccine out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: Why a teacher or the police but not someone in a petrol station or a supermarket? I agree the above should be, but I don't think it should stop there. Edit: and just to be clear I'm not one of the people I'm talking about, and I've already voiced my personal opinion on the vaccine...before anyone accuses me of angling to 'queue' jump! Put them on the list. Just think teachers who are in schools all day should be vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Newton51 said: Is there a lag with 2000 in one day? It is difficult to say. The positivity rate has been rising, but that is probably due to a combination of fewer tests and fewer people with minor symptoms turning up to be tested over the holiday period. The average number of daily positives over the last 7 days was 1,325. The 7 day period prior to that averaged 1,017. I think that rise speaks for itself, but doesn't account for any increase that may result from the easing of restrictions on Christmas day, although that should start to show in the figures over the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Put them on the list. Just think teachers who are in schools all day should be vaccinated. No arguments from me on that! 👍 As @redjambo says though, I guess it does become a logistical nightmare. It would be a start though if they looked at their exemptions list of shops that are allowed to stay open, the public service sector and asked for a list from those employers as to who is working in a contact setting. You'll not get everyone of course but you'll get a lot of people who must be at the rough end of the risk of exposure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, frankblack said: It is clear that the SG's rules aren't working and are being ignored by a significant minority. There is little else the SG can do to harden the rules so perhaps its finally time to enforce the existing rules, namely enforcing face coverings and social distancing in shops and public transport and removing the exemption option for the selfish and ignorant. If the SG don't know why these numbers are increasing then they are incompetent as any organisation that doesn't get the management information it needs changes its data collection and reporting policies to ensure it does. Selfish, ignorant and belligerent. 10K € fines in Tenerife for not donning a 25 cent mask, yes, you've guessed correctly, they didn't collect many fines from Canarians, the Brits on the other hand...easy meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, OBE said: Here's you genuinely champing at the bit for a pint tae, what restraint, I applaud you sir... Thanks. It is difficult but I’m coping not to badly. 🍺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Which makes the statement 'that it hardly kills anybody', which was pushed by some on here a few months ago, look all the more stupid. It’s like there’s nothing to see here. Clowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, ri Alban said: 981 deaths in the UK. Fecking hell! Some of those are backdated up to November. On the UK dashboard. 154 died yesterday, date of death, rather than date reported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: A solution doesn’t need to be perfect for it to be a good idea. You’ve kind of answered your own question. If you went to large employers your are likely to get 80% for very little effort for contact workers in like transport, supermarkets etc. You don’t worry about the 20% it gets picked up in the rounds. Now people can argue that’s not fair, on small minority, but meh 🤷🏻♂️ I’m not sure if it’s good idea or not to be honest. Maybe we are in danger of obsessing on something that doesn’t matter all that much, once you take the vulnerable out there is little benefit in prioritising under 50’s when the risk is, as we understand it very low. So age banding seems the most logical to me. (Unless something changes around under 18’s) That's my opinion as well, but I'm taking in that all ages are at risk and long Covid etc etc as we are being told. Taking that at face value, it seems unfair to send people 'we' have deemed essential out into their workplaces at increased risk when there is a vaccine available and instead give it to people who really could just avoid contact for a little bit longer. A response to the 'well what would you do?' that gets posed a lot I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, Taffin said: I'm surprised there isn't any talk about vaccinating those who still attend a physical workplace being vaccinated sooner. I guess they are either deemed collateral or that actually they aren't at much risk. Our precautions are near clinical for personnel and product. The risk assessment from March has been constantly updated daily. I feel extremely safe with the many procedures implemented on the shop floor, restaurant and break-out areas. Unfortunately I succumbed to Cv-19 5 days before I knocked off on the 20th Dec. Exactly where or how I caught it will remain a mystery, maybe my immune defences were lowered with the Flu jab on the 13th. Feel safer at work than in any supermarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, ri Alban said: It’s the whole of the UK. Just look at the twits in Switzerland who were told to isolate. The all left and went to France. You're no telling us what to do. The new strain is now known as the UK strain. So its Britflu now. Seen the new strain referred to as Borisona Virus on Twitter. Utter shambles. Edited December 30, 2020 by Weakened Offender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Did he not have a heart attack climbing a mountain on holiday whilst in the Highlands? Yes but there were rumours about the “ heart attack “ as he was against the Iraq invasion sorry “ war “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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