Dawnrazor Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Don't ****en start me ya ignorant twat, my dad (95) is in care because of dementia and forgetting he can't climb stairs after breaking a hip 2 years ago. Twice we were going to move in with him to try and bring him home (setting up a downstairs bedroom for him with a commode), twice we had to sleep on an airbed at the bottom of the stairs to stop him trying to climb the stairs and possibly killing/hurting himself. We asked social services to provide a 2/3 hour cover between me going to my backshift and the wife coming home from her dayshift, canny be done, they only come in to admin meds. We're now being forced to sell his house to pay for care (a house we bought I hasten to add but he didn't change it into my name)but now we have ***** like you claiming I abandoned him in a home? Hang your head in shame Doug. I was going to say more but Doug is a worthless piece of shit that doesn't deserve a reply That's hard to read mate, I hope your Dad gets the help he deserves and you're right about Doug, an ignorant trolling ***** most of the time, all the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 A new low for the SNP ass lickers. Blaming people for having their elderly parents in care homes, to cover for the SNP criminal feck up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, luckydug said: My old grannie developed cancer and came to live with us in two bedroom prefab. This was back in 1955 and she stayed with us till she died in 1959. She was very ill and had the main bedroom to herself, mum and dad had to sleep on the bed settee in the living room and us three boys had to share the other bedroom. Our situation wasn't uncommon in those days. People looked after their elderly parents as there was not so many care homes as now. My parents never gave a second thought to not looking after Grannie it was expected and not grudged on the families part. There is no way they would have left Grannie to die in a care home. Cancer is a shit thing, but the care you have to give old people with dementia is very complicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said: The answer is none, obviously. Ebola epidemic might have. It's just we don't have figures for that easily accessible 2 hours ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Don't ****en start me ya ignorant twat, my dad (95) is in care because of dementia and forgetting he can't climb stairs after breaking a hip 2 years ago. Twice we were going to move in with him to try and bring him home (setting up a downstairs bedroom for him with a commode), twice we had to sleep on an airbed at the bottom of the stairs to stop him trying to climb the stairs and possibly killing/hurting himself. We asked social services to provide a 2/3 hour cover between me going to my backshift and the wife coming home from her dayshift, canny be done, they only come in to admin meds. We're now being forced to sell his house to pay for care (a house we bought I hasten to add but he didn't change it into my name)but now we have ***** like you claiming I abandoned him in a home? Hang your head in shame Doug. I was going to say more but Doug is a worthless piece of shit that doesn't deserve a reply Well said. Some people need more specialised care than families can give at home. Edited December 24, 2020 by CavySlaveJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: A new low for the SNP ass lickers. Blaming people for having their elderly parents in care homes, to cover for the SNP criminal feck up I know. Pretty shameful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: What the **** does that matter? They were all of working age some honourably came back out of retirement to help so it depends how you define working age why it matters is that age is a key indicator to the risk of having a bad outcome from the virus it also became apparent quite early on what a few other risk indicators were and if a significant number of those lost had those factors then that matters too the individuals no doubt were bravely doing their best to save others but if they were allowed to put themselves at significant risk by bosses/authorities/government especially with possibly sub-standard ppe then like the care homes needs an enquiry thats presumably roughly why the poster asked the civil question about age also as another poster has said stuff like Ebola has probably lead to great losses too amongst the caring profession I think there’s a few real bad ones that the western/more developed world miss but they happen every day (not so much in our tellys tho) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: Cancer is a shit thing, but the care you have to give old people with dementia is very complicated It was more an observation on how times have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: I know. Pretty shameful. It's pretty shameful that people can't voice an opinion without being hounded. Ever wonder why so many regular posters are now giving this forum a miss ? This thread has been hijacked by about a dozen posters who gang up on anyone who does not agree with their views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, luckydug said: It's pretty shameful that people can't voice an opinion without being hounded. Ever wonder why so many regular posters are now giving this forum a miss ? This thread has been hijacked by about a dozen posters who gang up on anyone who does not agree with their views. Touche... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Brian Dundas said: What the **** does that matter? They were all of working age No need for internet aggro, just makes you seem like a twat. You raised the point of how many had died. I was just wondering if they were mostly older or because of stuff like high viral loads, workers in their 20s and 30s were equally affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 9 hours ago, luckydug said: It's pretty shameful that people can't voice an opinion without being hounded. Ever wonder why so many regular posters are now giving this forum a miss ? This thread has been hijacked by about a dozen posters who gang up on anyone who does not agree with their views. I think it's only 7 or 8. Wankstains. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: I think it's only 7 or 8. Wankstains. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Anyway 😂😂😂 ...... have a great day everyone and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Happy Winterval everyone! Scottish numbers: 25 December 2020 Summary 1,165 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-149] 30,619 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 4.3% of these were positive [+2,747; -1.0%] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, redjambo said: Happy Winterval everyone! Scottish numbers: 25 December 2020 Summary 1,165 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-149] 30,619 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 4.3% of these were positive [+2,747; -1.0%] Thanks and happy winter festival to you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Thanks and happy winter festival to you too. Two bottles of fine Arran whisky (Amarone and Port Cask) in my stocking today so it's going well for me so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie wallace Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, redjambo said: Two bottles of fine Arran whisky (Amarone and Port Cask) in my stocking today so it's going well for me so far. Glad you got the update out of the way before you started on the heavy stuff😃 Seems like a high number of tests yesterday. My wife got tested(negative) yesterday at the airport and it was rammed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, willie wallace said: Glad you got the update out of the way before you started on the heavy stuff😃 Seems like a high number of tests yesterday. My wife got tested(negative) yesterday at the airport and it was rammed. The least I can do is try to drink away the troubles of the year, for the common good that is. Well noticed on the number of tests. That was indeed a record today, the first time we've breached 30,000 as far as I am aware. The more the merrier, imo. Glad your wife tested negative. Have a good one, Willie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, willie wallace said: Glad you got the update out of the way before you started on the heavy stuff😃 Seems like a high number of tests yesterday. My wife got tested(negative) yesterday at the airport and it was rammed. Mine tested herself at work this morning....negative. At least that's the start of NHS staff being tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Mine tested herself at work this morning....negative. At least that's the start of NHS staff being tested. Good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie wallace Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Mine tested herself at work this morning....negative. At least that's the start of NHS staff being tested. Good news👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 5 hours ago, JamesM48 said: Anyway 😂😂😂 ...... have a great day everyone and Thanks James and a Merry Christmas to you too! 🎄🥂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Merry Xmas everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Mine tested herself at work this morning....negative. At least that's the start of NHS staff being tested. Glad to hear it JJ. Our angels need taken good care of so glad to hear that the testing has started - long overdue. Hope you're able to enjoy Xmas together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Very interesting reading. https://apple.news/A6F7qpERPQIWwTcoawxEVPQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Glad to hear it JJ. Our angels need taken good care of so glad to hear that the testing has started - long overdue. Hope you're able to enjoy Xmas together It is indeed long overdue, but that's the testing started for NHS staff, at least here in the Borders, so lets be thankful for that. We've had a lovely xmas dinner, thanks, it's the first time in about 4 or 5 years that we've had an xmas dinner together, she's normally working xmas day, as she often volunteers so as to let the younger nurses with young kids spend xmas day with their kids, ours are all grown up and flown the nest so xmas doesn't hold the same magic as it used to, when the kids were wee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Merry Xmas everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Santa brought me a positive test result this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Mine tested herself at work this morning....negative. At least that's the start of NHS staff being tested. I’ve had weekly tests at work since around July. Some areas have been prioritised. It’s now being implemented more widely in the NHS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: It is indeed long overdue, but that's the testing started for NHS staff, at least here in the Borders, so lets be thankful for that. We've had a lovely xmas dinner, thanks, it's the first time in about 4 or 5 years that we've had an xmas dinner together, she's normally working xmas day, as she often volunteers so as to let the younger nurses with young kids spend xmas day with their kids, ours are all grown up and flown the nest so xmas doesn't hold the same magic as it used to, when the kids were wee. Glad to hear it JJ. I know what you mean about the kids being older. Just having some time together after all these years will be pretty special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 47 minutes ago, Jamie Walker Tash said: Santa brought me a positive test result this morning Sorry to hear that JWT. Hope you're feeling OK and come out of isolation fit and well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Sorry to hear that JWT. Hope you're feeling OK and come out of isolation fit and well Thanks, much appreciated. Feeling fine now, had a weird turn on Wednesday but nothing major. Hopefully that was the worst of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Jamie Walker Tash said: Santa brought me a positive test result this morning You've obviously been a bad boy in Santa's books. Joking aside, I hope you're not too badly affected by it and that you're back to full health asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jamie Walker Tash said: Thanks, much appreciated. Feeling fine now, had a weird turn on Wednesday but nothing major. Hopefully that was the worst of it. Glad to hear it. I had a weird turn earlier this week too. Just felt totally cabbaged. Pounding headache and zero energy. Just a 48 hour thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 See that Sturgeon 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Walker Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 24/12/2020 at 20:21, OBE said: Bottom of the garden shed? Your point is ? TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Walker Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 24/12/2020 at 20:52, JamesM48 said: Seems to have went to pot . Unreliable readings and testing results which have led to skewered “ cases “ ie infections which in turn have fuelled mass over reaction from Govt and media and led to loss of most of our basic rights , liberties and ability to socialise Thanks for hopefully furthering the discussion TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Walker Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 24/12/2020 at 22:42, jonesy said: Had any responses yet, TW? Have I missed any that furthers the discussion, Jonesy ? TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Work partner tested positive last sunday, other partner on Wednesday(3 of us rotate on shift), told xmas morning I now have to self isolate?!? I've done 3 x 12 hour shifts since last contacts. Test and protect/trace is a waste of fekkin space! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Walker Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 24/12/2020 at 21:05, Brian Dundas said: That is exactly why positive test numbers are not the only thing considered when the Governments decide on restrictions/responses etc. Facts so far are, as positive results go up then so do hospitals fill up and people start to die. Brian, you say positive test numbers are not the only consideration. While not disagreeing, I consider the meaning/importance of "positive results" as part of the key to perhaps gaining an insight into the discussion... regarding what exactly is going on in these confusing times. For example you mention "people start to die". A further question arises... who exactly is dying from COVID and and who is dying with COVID ie not because of COVID ? Apologies if I'm not making myself clear....the topic is both complex and emotional. Best to all TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Tommy Walker said: Brian, you say positive test numbers are not the only consideration. While not disagreeing, I consider the meaning/importance of "positive results" as part of the key to perhaps gaining an insight into the discussion... regarding what exactly is going on in these confusing times. For example you mention "people start to die". A further question arises... who exactly is dying from COVID and and who is dying with COVID ie not because of COVID ? Apologies if I'm not making myself clear....the topic is both complex and emotional. Best to all TW It’s a really interesting point. Not sure whether it provides any answers on how to deal with things but I’d like more detailed figures as well. How many people died of Covid but were suffering from a terminal illness, how many were over 80. How many had chronic respiratory illness etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 The city bypass was the busiest I've saw it on Christmas day. Loads of people must have just ignored the 'advice' Came back up from the borders this morning and never saw a single police car on my travels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Came back up from the borders this morning and never saw a single police car on my travels You won't. There's very few traffic officers on duty these days. You'd have to be really unlucky or doing something really stupid to be stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Scottish numbers: 26 December 2020 Summary 1,149 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-16] 15,411 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 8.2% of these were positive [-15,208; +3.9%] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, redjambo said: Scottish numbers: 26 December 2020 Summary 1,149 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-16] 15,411 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 8.2% of these were positive [-15,208; +3.9%] Wow that is some increase in the percentage positive rate. I think Lockdown will last longer than 3 weeks if that number doesn’t come down quickly. Edited December 26, 2020 by CavySlaveJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, CavySlaveJambo said: Wow that is some increase in the percentage positive rate. I think Lockdown will last longer than 3 weeks if that number doesn’t come down quickly. I agree but was there not 30,000 odd tests done in yesterday's figures- maybe just an anomaly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 4 hours ago, GinRummy said: It’s a really interesting point. Not sure whether it provides any answers on how to deal with things but I’d like more detailed figures as well. How many people died of Covid but were suffering from a terminal illness, how many were over 80. How many had chronic respiratory illness etc etc. How many of those "cases" of the new variant are asymptomatic?? Is it actually weaker than it's forerunner?? Has the old variant died off?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJAC? Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 25/12/2020 at 00:13, luckydug said: It's pretty shameful that people can't voice an opinion without being hounded. Ever wonder why so many regular posters are now giving this forum a miss ? This thread has been hijacked by about a dozen posters who gang up on anyone who does not agree with their views. Rather than bathe yourself in the usual self pity you see the internet over, the onus is on you, the author, to make sure your message is clear and concise. People take you out of context (I don't think they did, but that's just my opinion), then you take ownership of it and sort it. Don't post stuff on a public forum if you've not got the stomach to handle negative reactions. So rather than deflect your error onto others, edit what you said. It's not our job to second guess the context behind your messages. That aside, folk did a lot of things differently back yonder. Doesn't mean it was better. I mean, a lot of people stuck around in unhappy, sometimes violent, marriages because divorce wasn't the done thing. Some people even took ill relatives in and hid them away in the spare room. Again, doesn't mean it was better than people now using hospices and the likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: The city bypass was the busiest I've saw it on Christmas day. Loads of people must have just ignored the 'advice' Came back up from the borders this morning and never saw a single police car on my travels The bypass was heaving yesterday. The police were never really going to be out in force today. They will be around the 31st though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Heard a car full coming from England was stopped a few days ago, got a small fine, they then decided to try another route, got busted again and fined £5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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