Governor Tarkin Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: I'm still not convinced a real person is posting on that account. Think it's a bot. Don't be a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) Just when you think things can't be any stranger....... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine "Two of the world’s leading medical journals – the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine – published studies based on data provided by a tiny US company called Surgisphere. The studies were co-authored by the firm’s chief executive, Sapan Desai." "A search of publicly available material suggests several of Surgisphere’s employees have little or no data or scientific background. An employee listed as a science editor appears to be a science fiction author and fantasy artist. Another employee listed as a marketing executive is an adult model and events hostess." "The company’s LinkedIn page has fewer than 100 followers and last week listed just six employees. This was changed to three employees as of Wednesday." "Desai’s Wikipedia page has been deleted following questions about Surgisphere and his history." Cursory follow-ups on the data provided has shown that it's deeply flawed or just made up. Hospitals have been contacted and have stated that they have never heard of Surgisphere or have provided any data to any private firms. Both medical journals have since published an "expression of concern" about their previous studies. This is as far as an open admission of error that these publications will do. WTF is going on? Edited June 3, 2020 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Cade said: WTF is going on? Nobody really knows. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, Cade said: Just when you think things can't be any stranger....... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine WTF is going on? That's incredible. There was lots of science pointing to the effectiveness & safety of hydroxychloroquine, then the surgisphere data appears , claiming a drug that's been safely administered for two years, is potentially unsafe. The u-turn as a result, could have potentially cost lives and saved suffering. This story shouldn't go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Horatio Caine said: Indeed. Would that we were all as upstanding as you. Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Another day of positive results in Scotland, it is looking much much better. Chances of catching this compared to a couple of months ago are slim, excellent news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Natural Orders said: Eh? Wish not would. An obvious mistake but easily figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said: Is that allowed to happen? Couldn’t tell you, do they care about rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Couldn’t tell you, do they care about rules? Probably not just like some jokers on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: Probably not just like some jokers on here You’re getting lazy, JiH. You’ve not called anyone ‘scum’ for a wee while. You're getting pretty shite at this game of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Morgan said: You’re getting lazy, JiH. You’ve not called anyone ‘scum’ for a wee while. You're getting pretty shite at this game of yours. You are not even making sense mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: You are not even making sense mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Natural Orders said: You are not even making sense mate Just for clarity: I make perfect sense. I’m (thankfully) not your ‘mate’. Your patter is crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 51 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: Eh? Showing moral fortitude, pointing out our misdemeanours; a solid steadying influence on us all. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Natural Orders said: Probably not just like some jokers on here Any rules in particular I’ve broken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Any rules in particular I’ve broken? Depends if you have used anyone else’s bathroom or let someone use yours (who doesn’t live with you) Edited June 3, 2020 by Natural Orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 42 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: You are not even making sense mate Well you’ll be top of the class for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: Depends if you have used anyone else’s bathroom or let someone use yours (who doesn’t like with you) No but I accidentally on purpose met a friend for a walk with my dogs, lock me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: No but I accidentally on purpose met a friend for a walk with my dogs, lock me up. You bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: No but I accidentally on purpose met a friend for a walk with my dogs, lock me up. Aslong as you are 2 metres apart you are not breaking any rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, Natural Orders said: Aslong as you are 2 metres apart you are not breaking any rules It was a threw weeks ago, I’m off to a protest now at the Mound, not sure if it’s strictly allowed either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: You bad. I know eh 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 359 more deaths in all settings. Still not good figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: Aslong as you are 2 metres apart you are not breaking any rules If you’re having a slash is it 2 metres from the pan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Boris bullshitting as we speak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Nice to see Whitty & Vallance back at the oche. Death rate is not really falling quickly is it? Commenting that the R number is 'close to 1' not clarifying if that's close to 1 below 1 or above 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) Expert Patrick saying this is not coming down fast enough. Boris must be beeling! Dominic blowing a gasket piercing Boris’s hearing aid. Edited June 3, 2020 by Dannie Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Nice to see Whitty & Vallance back at the oche. Death rate is not really falling quickly is it? Commenting that the R number is 'close to 1' not clarifying if that's close to 1 below 1 or above 1. Hopefully some on the ball journo asks the question. Edited June 3, 2020 by Dannie Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: 359 more deaths in all settings. Still not good figures. When did the likes of Spain and Italy last have that amount in a day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: When did the likes of Spain and Italy last have that amount in a day? weeks ago I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Obviously I'll be accused of being a doom monger who sees no positives and wants everyone to die but the numbers aren't that good are they, for 11 weeks in. Just hope it doesn't spike after these last few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Natural Orders said: Depends if you have used anyone else’s bathroom or let someone use yours (who doesn’t live with you) Those are not rules, they are guidelines. Google it if you don't know the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Still 8000+ people getting infected everyday. Just poor from this bloody awful government when it comes to fighting this virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, graygo said: Those are not rules, they are guidelines. Google it if you don't know the difference. Only selfish people will break them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Natural Orders said: You are missing the point! there are clearly people on here who are breaking the rules and should be ashamed Like trolling, for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: Only selfish people will break them You can’t break a guideline. You're not very smart, are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 The dregs are being charged and fined, is this for breaching guidelines, rules or law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: When did the likes of Spain and Italy last have that amount in a day? We were told often at the beginning of this that we were 2 weeks behind Italy / Spain. Anyone know how many new infections these countries were seeing 2 weeks ago? We’re seeing 8k a day!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Morgan said: You can’t break a guideline. You're not very smart, are you? I did tell him to Google it, he obviously didn't think he needed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, OBE said: The dregs are being charged and fined, is this for breaching guidelines, rules or law? They are then also successfully fighting the fines in court as they have no basis in law due to the way the bill was rushed through parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) Wrong thread. Edited June 3, 2020 by Mauricio Pinilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dannie Boy said: Still 8000+ people getting infected everyday. Just poor from this bloody awful government when it comes to fighting this virus. Where does this myth about 8k keep coming from?? Confirmed daily infections have been less than 2k for a week now. The R is based purely on supposition and will continue to be used to manipulate human behaviour at the govts whim, turning it on and off like a tap. Govts need to start treating the population as grown ups. Johnson today tried to hoodwink us into believing a quarantine policy in March would make little difference but now, quarantining visitors from countries who have nearly eradicated the virus, is vital. Utter bollo**s. Yesterday, Sturgeon repeated the lie about "face coverings" only protecting others. Droplets only travel one-way you see. Complete and utter bollo**s Part 2. Anyone with even an ounce of intelligence knows that mssks DO offer much greater protection than not wearing them. The rest of the world can offer the populace medical grade masks and keep health staff fully supplied why not us? Both Johnson and Sturgeon are distracting from their own incompetence in dealing with COVID, by treatimg people like idiots. Reduce the briefings to weekly ones and lets have some honesty...who is catching it, where are they catching it and how are they being infected. Edited June 3, 2020 by Enzo Chiefo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: who is catching it, where are they catching it and how are they being infected. Elderly people, in care homes, asymptomatic staff who are not being tested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Where does this myth about 8k keep coming from?? Confirmed daily infections have been less than 2k for a week now. The R is based purely on supposition and will continue to be used to manipulate human behaviour at the govts whim, turning it on and off like a tap. Govts need to start treating the population as grown ups. Johnson today tried to hoodwink us into believing a quarantine policy in March would make little difference but now, quarantining visitors from countries who have nearly eradicated the virus, is vital. Utter bollo**s. Yesterday, Sturgeon repeated the lie about "face coverings" only protecting others. Droplets only travel one-way you see. Complete and utter bollo**s Part 2. Anyone with even an ounce of intelligence knows that mssks DO offer much greater protection than not wearing them. The rest of the world can offer the populace medical grade masks and keep health staff fully supplied why not us? Both Johnson and Sturgeon are distracting from their own incompetence in dealing with COVID, by treatimg people like idiots. Reduce the briefings to weekly ones and lets have some honesty...who is catching it, where are they catching it and how are they being infected. And remember when the infections are alledgedly 8000 per day it is infections...people who have tested positive for it and mainly got mild or actually no symptoms. When people see " 8000" they often think the worse. The fear factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Dannie Boy said: Boris bullshitting as we speak! Wednesday is the only day he works, sorry he’s around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Where does this myth about 8k keep coming from?? Confirmed daily infections have been less than 2k for a week now. The R is based purely on supposition and will continue to be used to manipulate human behaviour at the govts whim, turning it on and off like a tap. Govts need to start treating the population as grown ups. Johnson today tried to hoodwink us into believing a quarantine policy in March would make little difference but now, quarantining visitors from countries who have nearly eradicated the virus, is vital. Utter bollo**s. Yesterday, Sturgeon repeated the lie about "face coverings" only protecting others. Droplets only travel one-way you see. Complete and utter bollo**s Part 2. Anyone with even an ounce of intelligence knows that mssks DO offer much greater protection than not wearing them. The rest of the world can offer the populace medical grade masks and keep health staff fully supplied why not us? Both Johnson and Sturgeon are distracting from their own incompetence in dealing with COVID, by treatimg people like idiots. Reduce the briefings to weekly ones and lets have some honesty...who is catching it, where are they catching it and how are they being infected. The 8k is an estimate of the total number of new infections. If 1800 people test positive there will be a lot more who aren't getting tested but have it. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-latest-uk-deaths-bame-covid-test-lockdown/amp/ Edited June 3, 2020 by fancy a brew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 After the no social distancing at protests today in London who knows what 2 weeks time will bring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, fancy a brew said: The 8k is an estimate of the total number of new infections. If 1800 people test positive there will be a lot more who aren't getting tested but have it. https://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-latest-uk-deaths-bame-covid-test-lockdown/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwi2zub-oubpAhXt6eAKHQkABoEQyM8BCDEwAg&usg=AOvVaw2ZWfqQ5fkt8-jUaJS5xSL_&cf=1 Thanks FAB. I'd heard it mentioned quite a bit. So, an estimate, probably based on polls or household surveys?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 18 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: does this bozo not realise the r-value is very volatile He also works as an oncologist and not in public health, epidemiology or infectious disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Where does this myth about 8k keep coming from?? Confirmed daily infections have been less than 2k for a week now. The R is based purely on supposition and will continue to be used to manipulate human behaviour at the govts whim, turning it on and off like a tap. Govts need to start treating the population as grown ups. Johnson today tried to hoodwink us into believing a quarantine policy in March would make little difference but now, quarantining visitors from countries who have nearly eradicated the virus, is vital. Utter bollo**s. Yesterday, Sturgeon repeated the lie about "face coverings" only protecting others. Droplets only travel one-way you see. Complete and utter bollo**s Part 2. Anyone with even an ounce of intelligence knows that mssks DO offer much greater protection than not wearing them. The rest of the world can offer the populace medical grade masks and keep health staff fully supplied why not us? Both Johnson and Sturgeon are distracting from their own incompetence in dealing with COVID, by treatimg people like idiots. Reduce the briefings to weekly ones and lets have some honesty...who is catching it, where are they catching it and how are they being infected. PM briefing tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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