Pasquale for King Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Last Laff said: Please stop quoting him, he will never ever be wrong and always change the goalposts when stumped by asking yet another question. I highly recommend the ignore function. I second that 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: I second that 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 He has turned Dundee Down because of wage demands..... beyond belief he thinks he is worth anything .... one of the worst players I have ever seen at hearts Totally useless player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5115 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, NB GIN said: He has turned Dundee Down because of wage demands..... beyond belief he thinks he is worth anything .... one of the worst players I have ever seen at hearts Totally useless player It's all fine and well telling players they can find new clubs but they are earning good money here and this will make it difficult to move them on. This could also hamper us trying to bring new players Inn if we can't shift guys like Wighton. Once again thanks Craig Levein for the pile of shite you left us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartley10 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, NB GIN said: He has turned Dundee Down because of wage demands..... beyond belief he thinks he is worth anything .... one of the worst players I have ever seen at hearts Totally useless player It's Dundee not paying enough. We're probably trying to get 50k, every penny will help Stendel. But like you say, he's worth absolutely nowt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Be better of letting him go for a sell on clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Early days in the negotiations I suspect. Heart's wanting a tenner and Dundee standing firm on a fiver. Progress could be slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytebeard Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, NB GIN said: He has turned Dundee Down because of wage demands..... beyond belief he thinks he is worth anything .... one of the worst players I have ever seen at hearts Totally useless player If your in his position would you accept a decrease in salary, especially if it is significant. this issue will be the same with Berra Can’t fault the players. Short career so they should take as much as they can get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Keena is better than Wighton and he's just gone to a non-league team. I can't blame him if dropping wages is the stumbling block as he'll almost certainly not earn what he's getting from us at any other point in his career. It's a shame the way things have worked out for him but it was always a risky signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Interesting that the Evening Tele, the paper that knows what goes on in Dundee, is saying that the fee for Wighton in 2018 was believed to be £100k Deduct the amount we received for Jack Hamilton’s development fee going the other way and it’s likely that we only spent about £50k cash on Wighton and not the much higher amounts that some of the other posters believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 How much were we paying this idiot............? https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/new-targets-for-dee-as-hearts-wighton-demands-too-high/ New targets for Dundee as Hearts’ Craig Wighton demands too high Dundee have distanced themselves from a romantic return for former favourite Craig Wighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Can see it being another year and a half until we get rid of all the dross levein brought in. Guys like wighton wont play at this level again so will sit tight until his contract runs out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, whytebeard said: If your in his position would you accept a decrease in salary, especially if it is significant. this issue will be the same with Berra Can’t fault the players. Short career so they should take as much as they can get In Wightons case it will be a very short career if he wants to hang around Hearts reserves for another 18 months rather than going somewhere else to play. The guy is still young, surely he won't throw his career away just to pick up a wage at Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: In Wightons case it will be a very short career if he wants to hang around Hearts reserves for another 18 months rather than going somewhere else to play. The guy is still young, surely he won't throw his career away just to pick up a wage at Hearts You would hope not, for the sake of both parties. Sometimes you've got to take a step back, and that includes financially, in order to take a step forward. Hopefully Wighton and his agent/advisers realise this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, whytebeard said: If your in his position would you accept a decrease in salary, especially if it is significant. this issue will be the same with Berra Can’t fault the players. Short career so they should take as much as they can get I imagine Berra is rather well-off. He spent years in the EPL and Championship so he'll have been on very good wages for a long time. Of course he's entitled to accept those wages if they're offered. However, being very possibly a millionaire at the age of 34 hardly puts him in a tight spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: In Wightons case it will be a very short career if he wants to hang around Hearts reserves for another 18 months rather than going somewhere else to play. The guy is still young, surely he won't throw his career away just to pick up a wage at Hearts Agree. Strikes me as someone who doesn’t have the confidence that he will get a move like this. Complete wrong attitude to have as a youngster especially one who has received so much, IMO unwarranted, praise from individuals within the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Beggars belief that we signed him at all given his record. Typical of Levein to buy a dud and sign him up on dream wages. there will be a few more like Wighton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Beggars belief that we signed him at all given his record. Typical of Levein to buy a dud and sign him up on dream wages. there will be a few more like Wighton Could you tell us what the dream wage is ? I suspect not and your post is just another silly attempt to stir matters You have no idea what his salary is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionG Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Could you tell us what the dream wage is ? I suspect not and your post is just another silly attempt to stir matters You have no idea what his salary is Going by Vanecek saying Motherwell’s we’re not enough for him and Wighton’s demands being too high for Dundee, I would suspect we are overpaying a number of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, SectionG said: Going by Vanecek saying Motherwell’s we’re not enough for him and Wighton’s demands being too high for Dundee, I would suspect we are overpaying a number of players. With our budget we should be able to pay players more than Motherwell and Dundee would, so I don't see that as necessarily being a logical conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Could you tell us what the dream wage is ? I suspect not and your post is just another silly attempt to stir matters You have no idea what his salary is it’s a salary Dundee won’t pay. Which is his level . So yeah a dream wage . look forward to your response levein paid shite players too much so we can’t move many of them on. Wighton looks like yet another one. he has scored 0 goals in 18 appearances. So tell me, how am I stirring matters ???? Edited January 11, 2020 by 1971fozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, SectionG said: Going by Vanecek saying Motherwell’s we’re not enough for him and Wighton’s demands being too high for Dundee, I would suspect we are overpaying a number of players. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 59 minutes ago, SectionG said: Going by Vanecek saying Motherwell’s we’re not enough for him and Wighton’s demands being too high for Dundee, I would suspect we are overpaying a number of players. I must have read it wrong. I thought it said Hearts demands were too high, not Wighton's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Coburg Hearts said: I must have read it wrong. I thought it said Hearts demands were too high, not Wighton's? Good call. The Evening Telegraph article says "However, the Jambos’ demands are too high." The position of that apostrophe is critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, redjambo said: Good call. The Evening Telegraph article says "However, the Jambos’ demands are too high." The position of that apostrophe is critical. That's a good spot, too. I just read Jambos' as Hearts, but if the apostrophe is one place to the left it changes everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionG Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Coburg Hearts said: I must have read it wrong. I thought it said Hearts demands were too high, not Wighton's? Surely we can’t be asking for cash for Wighton, he’d be lucky to end up part time, never a professional footballer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Craig Levein and the hippy tried to 'boost' our low scoring squad with: Craig Wighton David Vancek Steven Mclean Aiden Keena Uche Ikpeazu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Craig Levein and the hippy tried to 'boost' our low scoring squad with: Craig Wighton David Vancek Steven Mclean Aiden Keena Uche Ikpeazu You’re up early i8. Shit the bed or something? You’ve missed out Cole Stockton and Connor Sammon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 People keep talking about players just sitting tight and collecting there earnings and whilst this may be true for the older players the younger players like Keena, Wighton and Mulraney this is a very very risky option for there career. If they sit in the stands for 12-18 months or more there match fitness and sharpness will reduce significantly (ask Aidy White) and will greatly reduce there chances of a future club at a decent level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jambo Hardhat said: You’re up early i8. Shit the bed or something? You’ve missed out Cole Stockton and Connor Sammon Wow! Forgot about them too! Abouda or whatever he was called too 🤦🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 5 hours ago, 1971fozzy said: Correct. Is it? What are Dude offering him? What does he earn at Hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, red said: Wow! Forgot about them too! Abouda or whatever he was called too 🤦🏻♂️ You could could add Dario Zanatta to that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 09/01/2020 at 14:14, JamboAl said: You're not paid to moan your tits off on here either but you do plenty of it, repeating the same guff time after time. Everyone agrees it is the responsibility of the manager/chief scout etc and I'm sure everyone agrees they don't always get it right. When you shop in the lower markets you can't always expect high quality goods but as I said earlier even Mourinho can get it wrong paying (near) record fees. We are not alone.. Pogba has proven quality. While there may be other issues his football ability is not in question. Wighton is pish at football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, red said: Wow! Forgot about them too! Abouda or whatever he was called too 🤦🏻♂️ That's a bit harsh on Dauda. He had a scoring rate of 1 in 3 with us. And a lot of those appearances were off the bench. Not had a better striker since.😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo Hardhat said: You’re up early i8. Shit the bed or something? You’ve missed out Cole Stockton and Connor Sammon Robbie Neilson signed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: Craig Levein and the hippy tried to 'boost' our low scoring squad with: Craig Wighton David Vancek Steven Mclean Aiden Keena Uche Ikpeazu 1 hour ago, Jambo Hardhat said: You’re up early i8. Shit the bed or something? You’ve missed out Cole Stockton and Connor Sammon Stockton, yes, but surely Robbie had to take responsibility for Sammon. Could we add Dylan Bikey to that list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, cosanostra said: Robbie Neilson signed them. Stockton signed whilst Cathro was the Head Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, Tenor said: Stockton, yes, but surely Robbie had to take responsibility for Sammon. Could we add Dylan Bikey to that list? It took DS about 10 minutes to stamp these guys as shite. Make no bones about it that if Levein was still in charge our front 2 for Ross County would be Wighton and Mclean with Berra in defence head punting the ball every 3 minutes. We would lose and he would say to Ann he is fixing it and she would think he is doing a great job. ****ing frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 McPake was quoted as saying this has been going on since the summer......the financial side of things should have been all in place long before now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Stockton signed whilst Cathro was the Head Coach. For Jurgen Klopp's first few games in charge, Cole Stockton was in his squad as that is the shite Rogers left him. It is kinda similar now with DS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Ethan Hunt said: Pogba has proven quality. While there may be other issues his football ability is not in question. Wighton is pish at football. The £89m fee would seem to confirm that. It matters not how much proven quality a player has. If he does not display it then I'm afraid it's a bad signing and an expensive one at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: For Jurgen Klopp's first few games in charge, Cole Stockton was in his squad as that is the shite Rogers left him. It is kinda similar now with DS. You’ve lost me. Actually.... Think you may be confusing Stockdale with Connor Randall. Which doesn’t surprise me tbh. Edited January 11, 2020 by DH1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, DH1986 said: You’ve lost me. Actually.... Think you may be confusing Stockdale with Connor Randall. Which doesn’t surprise me tbh. Ah yeah sorry. Too many shite strikers. I had Randall in ny head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I am sure I am not the first to mix up players in this Tsunami of shite Levein washed over us in the past 5 years tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Ah yeah sorry. Too many shite strikers. I had Randall in ny head I think you might also be getting mixed up thinking Randall was a striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, cosanostra said: Robbie Neilson signed them. I’m sure robbie was being worked up the back by his puppet master though. Will probably come out years from now that that was the reason RN left the club as he wasn’t his own man. Only my opinion though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stotty Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 8 hours ago, SectionG said: Going by Vanecek saying Motherwell’s we’re not enough for him and Wighton’s demands being too high for Dundee, I would suspect we are overpaying a number of players. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Jambo Hardhat said: I’m sure robbie was being worked up the back by his puppet master though. Will probably come out years from now that that was the reason RN left the club as he wasn’t his own man. Only my opinion though Robbie has said repeatedly that this is nonsense but people do love a conspiracy theory. Happy to criticise Levein for his vast catalogue of blunders but blaming him for other managers abysmal signings seems silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, JamboAl said: I think you might also be getting mixed up thinking Randall was a striker I'm getting mixed up thinking any of these ***** are strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, cosanostra said: Robbie has said repeatedly that this is nonsense but people do love a conspiracy theory. Happy to criticise Levein for his vast catalogue of blunders but blaming him for other managers abysmal signings seems silly. I’m not blaming Levein for the actual signings but someone identified them and he definitely sanctioned them. Levein is currently to blame for the mess we find ourselves in and he’s been endorsed by the CEO. He’s had autonomy since he came here and all approved by AB. What other explanation could there possibly be for the circus that we have become of late? As a silver lining then the best thing that’s happened to us in a while is that we are bottom and in crisis. This has enabled us to get rid of Leveins ideology and his boot room, lackeys and fellow hangers on. It won’t be an overnight fix but thankfully Ann has woken up and realised that Levein is so out his depth that he’s been ‘working his ticket’ and been winging it the whole time. The saddest part is, the hard earned money that’s been needlessly wasted in pursuit of one mans ego. File Levein and Donald Trump under the same banner. All imho though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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