queensferryjambo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Locky said: The younger crowd are a lot more venomous in their hatred for us. For what reasons, I don't know why. Hibs younger fans lived through the 'Hibsed it' era. 12 in a row derby run, 2012 Cup final thrashing, 2013 Cup final pumping, getting relegated against all the odds in a play off, 3 years in the Championship with 2 play off failures, Ross County cup defeat........ It would have been a horrific time for any football fan. They eventually got promoted and won the Scottish Cup but they have struggled to change their extremely bitter mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Julie1957 said: The question is does fan ownership work. The real question is what is it like living in Lochend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: We will both be the same as what we are both teams will by living within there means. I would have thought so. All depends whether this chap wants to try and push some money in to the team, I suppose. We will have us/FoH as our owners, and we will be putting in £1m+ a season, and benefiting from the investment in infrastructure improving our profits. Hibs will be living within their means, minus FoH money. It will come down to whether or not this guy wants to match FoH's cash injections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Does this now make them "Cheeturz"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Julie1957 said: We have to build 3 new stands to get the pitch up to standard. 105 x 68m It will be law for top flight football. Hmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Julie1957 said: We have to build 3 new stands to get the pitch up to standard. 105 x 68m It will be law for top flight football. In a direct reply to you I've already explained why we don't need to worry about the pitch size, the same reason that liverpool and Chelsea don't need to worry about it - we played at these sites long before any regulations so we're grandfathered in. I'm calling shenanigans, you're at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: So... It will all come down to how much he is willing to put in. If the quoted figure of £6m initial is to be believed, then £3m of that (conservative) goes to paying Tom for his shares. £1-2m for the training ground upgrades? That's the bulk of the initial outlay gone. The statement says they are debt free, so some (50%) of the rumoured £6m has gone to that, plus the purchase price of the shares from STF. That might be the full £6m gone already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Since it is the vermin we are talking about, can we dub this boy Ronald Rat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Who cares. It's Hibs. Tried and failed to copy us with a fan ownership. They will bob along in our shadow as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Does not effect us. It's up to our team to get it right on the pitch. The money will flood in and financially will be a head of them. That will allow better players to come to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Smithee said: In a direct reply to you I've already explained why we don't need to worry about the pitch size, the same reason that liverpool and Chelsea don't need to worry about it - we played at these sites long before any regulations so we're grandfathered in. I'm calling shenanigans, you're at it. Same as you don't have to rip out your windows or demolish your walls when building regulations change. Just apply to new buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scnorthedinburgh Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, SUTOL said: The statement says they are debt free, so some (50%) of the rumoured £6m has gone to that, plus the purchase price of the shares from STF. That might be the full £6m gone already. Also 6 mill doesn't go far, look at the wedge Vlad threw at us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Glad the Farmer laddie ain’t getting to spend his dads cash on his beloved, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Since it is the vermin we are talking about, can we dub this boy Ronald Rat? Gordon the Gopher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Can see big Ron flying over to take in Hamilton away on a wet December night right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, queensferryjambo said: Hibs younger fans lived through the 'Hibsed it' era. 12 in a row derby run, 2012 Cup final thrashing, 2013 Cup final pumping, getting relegated against all the odds in a play off, 3 years in the Championship with 2 play off failures, Ross County cup defeat........ It would have been a horrific time for any football fan. They eventually got promoted and won the Scottish Cup but they have struggled to change their extremely bitter mindset. In a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Hope he turns out to be as dodgy as a £3 note and buries them. That would be the sweetest karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Seems good on the surface, American owners though tend to be in it for the money they can make as opposed to a desperation to see the club progress.. i can’t think of any American owners who don’t fit into that mould, Kroenke, the glazers. The boys at Dundee.. i wouldn’t swap positions, we are debt free, have a far bigger income and tax free donations worth £1.4m pa.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Should keep things interesting. If this does push hibs to the next level and competing at the top end that could be interesting times for Scottish football. A club with the potential hibs have should be up there after all. For all we take the piss both us and Hibs should be able to rip the league apart outside the OF. With us continuing to try and push those boundaries and Aberdeen ever present in recent times Scottish football could be a very entertaining product in the near future. I like that. Especially if we get a decent bit of TV investment as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) SKY Sports doing some top punditry right now about Aberdeen apparently getting a cash injection for their new manager Paul Heckingbottom from US investors them moved swiftly on to Rangers new signings Edited July 2, 2019 by queensferryjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Why we talking about hibs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 The best hibs related quote I've read on here: "I like my vermin confident" ****ing bring them on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, Julie1957 said: We have to build 3 new stands to get the pitch up to standard. 105 x 68m It will be law for top flight football. Any plans to elaborate on this, Jules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placid Casual Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, Julie1957 said: We have to build 3 new stands to get the pitch up to standard. 105 x 68m It will be law for top flight football. Not true, grandfathered. UEFA regulations are a good read... https://tinyurl.com/215091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 30 minutes ago, Julie1957 said: The question is does fan ownership work. The bigger one is, how are you still here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, Locky said: My opinion on today's news is fair enough, it's hardly a billion pound takeover by some mental rich tycoon. It's a retired businessman, who has put a careful amount into the club. His idea is to surely turn Hibs into a sustainable club with a sound business model, something they haven't done for years. The £6 million or whatever has been paid in, has offset the mortgage, and the rest will be put into the infrastructure of the club, with maybe a small portion towards Heckingbottom's budget should he have targets in mind. Much ado about nothing I think, and I can't wait to see the club continue to Hibs everything in sight while fans get raging because Mr Deeds hasn't pumped the millions into the club that they think he's promised. Pretty much exactly how I see it. Let them get excited, that is normal. I doubt they'll be toppling their big cousins anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 53 minutes ago, CJGJ said: A Peruvian school that you attended ? Ron and I used to wolf down the marmalade sandwiches and wax lyrical about the exploits of Busby and Ford - great days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Whatever said: The bigger one is, how are you still here? Seconded, jambo my hole 4 minutes ago, Placid Casual said: Not true, grandfathered. UEFA regulations are a good read... https://tinyurl.com/215091 Correct, good find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 51 minutes ago, been here before said: I wonder if the board will be looking to diversify into bars, hotels, restaurants and the like. ? That would be a rather DUFF investment imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 If you read into his business background there is no way he’s going to squander millions to try and win league titles. Good luck to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, farin said: Wouldn’t buy a used car from any of them . ????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Seeing as how Julie is allowed to apparently drag this off topic, here is the most up to date UEFA regulations on special dispensation for stadia infrastructure (sections 1 and 3) https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/Stadium&Security/01/48/48/85/1484885_DOWNLOAD.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Doubt he'll put any more per annum into Hibs as FOH puts into Hearts. Only difference is that they're relying on one punter not to pull the plug, we have c.8k who never will. Had a look at their thread and it's just as much about snarling at Hearts as it is excitement about Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 America has its fair share of successful immigrant entrepreneurs whose back story on their affairs and experience prior to arrival doesn't stand up to any scrutiny at all. Not saying this guy is a Gus Fring (from Breaking Bad) type but you'd have to ask yourself why Scottish football, why Hibs etc etc. I've no doubt the guys that examined Vlad's background and affairs in such forensic detail will be on the case. They will be won't they??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, martoon said: Doubt he'll put any more per annum into Hibs as FOH puts into Hearts. Only difference is that they're relying on one punter not to pull the plug, we have c.8k who never will. Had a look at their entire existence and it's just as much about snarling at Hearts as it is excitement about Hibs. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Hibs fans having delusions of grandeur. Sure they think they’ll be entering a bidding war with Man Utd to buy McGinn back with the McGinn money ??♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, maroonedinoz said: That seems to be at odds with his bio, which states he was born in Peru...and actually educated in...Sydney! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Getting a bit narked about this 8k FoH members number often quoted... As a contributor I would be more than happy if that number went up as I am sure that it could if some gave up 2_3 pints per month and didn't rely on others continuing. I appreciate not everybody's circs allow them to contribute, and that's fine ... but come on, we are all in this together. #PledgeForLife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, Smithee said: FTFY ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky87 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Best news for Hibs in decades and they are still obsessed with us ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Gutted my first post on here is on a Hibs thread but this is a belter: He owns his own bank....? What could possibly go wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky87 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Gutted my first post on here is on a Hibs thread but this is a belter: He owns his own bank....? What could possibly go wrong Where have we heard that before ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Blacky87 said: Best news for Hibs in decades and they are still obsessed with us ??? "HeartsAreSpeawing" Never speawed in my puff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 The only thing I am vaguely annoyed about here is that they will no doubt get a season ticket spike from this - look at what happened with Romanov. I think this just means that we all need to pull together more now and get behind the team - let's ignore issues around Levein if we can. I don't think it will make a huge difference to them in real terms but if we supported those vermin we'd be pretty chuffed today. I wonder if the new owner will be hands on or off - he is still involved in at least 2 ventures in America. I have experience of working for an American company and know other's that work for American owned companies and basically they can be real dicks to work for and micro manage things to death. If he isnt going to base himself here no doubt he will put an American in place to be his proxy. I have never seen an American run business not have at least one American in the building Anyway, we are in a good place ourselves. Things could be better on the pitch. But there does appear to be a solid base to build on. Worst case scenario is that a team other than Rangers and Celtic will only ever win the league if there is more than one team chasing them down and taking points off them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: The only thing I am vaguely annoyed about here is that they will no doubt get a season ticket spike from this - look at what happened with Romanov. I think this just means that we all need to pull together more now and get behind the team - let's ignore issues around Levein if we can. I don't think it will make a huge difference to them in real terms but if we supported those vermin we'd be pretty chuffed today. I wonder if the new owner will be hands on or off - he is still involved in at least 2 ventures in America. I have experience of working for an American company and know other's that work for American owned companies and basically they can be real dicks to work for and micro manage things to death. If he isnt going to base himself here no doubt he will put an American in place to be his proxy. I have never seen an American run business not have at least one American in the building Anyway, we are in a good place ourselves. Things could be better on the pitch. But there does appear to be a solid base to build on. Worst case scenario is that a team other than Rangers and Celtic will only ever win the league if there is more than one team chasing them down and taking points off them Do you have much experience of Peruvian business owners and how they operate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 South American connection for the spoon burners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, SUTOL said: Do you have much experience of Peruvian business owners and how they operate? Haha - good point He was educated at Uni/College in the US and has spent his whole career in the US, so I would imagine his "go to" management style would be more US than not. If he was a Peruvian business man that had stayed in Peru I doubt he would be at Hibs now. You might be right though - good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said: This place is weird,slate Hearts your a Hibs fan then slate Hibs and your "jealous"?? People are trying to act like it's a great thing to avoid coming off as jealous imo. They don't want to seem like there's a fuss to be made. The point I was making was Hibs tore into us about having a foreign Chairman who didn't play on a "level field" but are now creaming themselves over it (and rightly so). This is a big deal, for me at least. At the moment I don't feel like Hearts are in the best hands for our on the field side. Off the field yes Budge is a masterclass and saved the club. I am not saying by any means that Hibs are going to be in any better state on or off the field as that is yet to be seen, I am just pointing out that Budge is happy with making money out of stuff that goes on off the field, and I just hope we don't fall away any further from the top 4 while the other clubs go spending money on players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 We must object immediately to everyone and anyone about this. Or maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Don’t know if this is good or bad for Hibs. Don’t care that much either. I think it’s highly unlikely they will suddenly have huge amounts of spare cash to spend, so it’s business as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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