Jambof3tornado Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Tell you what, naismith would walk straight into that Scotland squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Olly Lee and Halkett were both offered contract extensions by their respective clubs. Quite obvious that you can’t reject a contract and then get an extra months wages for being unemployed. Naismith hasn’t been offered a contract at Norwich so is due a 13th month payment for being effectively unemployed. Steven Davis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Steven Davis? What about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 46 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: What about him? 50k pw contract Southampton - announces ages ago he’s signing for Rangers next year. Is that because he can just do without the money or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Inch Hearts said: 50k pw contract Southampton - announces ages ago he’s signing for Rangers next year. Is that because he can just do without the money or what? Maybe he doesn’t have a 13th month clause in his contact. Maybe Southampton paid it regardless as he was their club captain. Maybe Rangers paid a substantial signing on fee? I asked another poster if the 13th month payment was compulsory as part of English football or just a clause inserted into Naismith’s contract but never got a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Maybe he doesn’t have a 13th month clause in his contact. Maybe Southampton paid it regardless as he was their club captain. Maybe Rangers paid a substantial signing on fee? I asked another poster if the 13th month payment was compulsory as part of English football or just a clause inserted into Naismith’s contract but never got a response. My understanding is that it is compulsory and is intended as compensation to help the player if he is unemployed on termination of his contract. That obviously hasn't happened with Davis as he signed on with Sevco in advance of his loan spell finishing and is, therefore, being paid "in the 13th month" by them. Naisy might have done the same but by delaying signing for us, the 13 month payment will be made by Norwich which, in effect saves us a month's pay as his pay rate at Norwich will be much higher than ours. That's how I see it but apologies if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 minute ago, JamboAl said: My understanding is that it is compulsory and is intended as compensation to help the player if he is unemployed on termination of his contract. That obviously hasn't happened with Davis as he signed on with Sevco in advance of his loan spell finishing and is, therefore, being paid "in the 13th month" by them. Naisy might have done the same but by delaying signing for us, the 13 month payment will be made by Norwich which, in effect saves us a month's pay as his pay rate at Norwich will be much higher than ours. That's how I see it but apologies if I'm wrong. Perhaps it only applies to EFL teams and not to EPL teams? Not sure EPL players need a 13th month payment, although Naismith won't need it either. Made a fortune from football and his wife will earn a very good wage as a dentist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Perhaps it only applies to EFL teams and not to EPL teams? Not sure EPL players need a 13th month payment, although Naismith won't need it either. Made a fortune from football and his wife will earn a very good wage as a dentist. 1 If we assume SN is on £30k per week at Norwich and we're going to pay him say £3k pw, by delaying signing he will receive £130 gross from them and it will save us over £13k for that magical 13th month. If he had signed right away he would have lost (on these random figures) £117k gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Perhaps it only applies to EFL teams and not to EPL teams? Not sure EPL players need a 13th month payment, although Naismith won't need it either. Made a fortune from football and his wife will earn a very good wage as a dentist. Yes, he has made a fortune from football and is set up for life. His wife has set up a new business in dentistry but Steven and her are not driven by money. They are people who care about helping folk who are not so fortunate in life as can be seen by his charity work. He will be signing for Hearts on a long term contract and folk still doubting this can relax. You could not meet nicer people and we should be grateful he has chosen Hearts to spend the rest of his career with and possibly. beyond that when he moves into msnagement/coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Yes, he has made a fortune from football and is set up for life. His wife has set up a new business in dentistry but Steven and her are not driven by money. They are people who care about helping folk who are not so fortunate in life as can be seen by his charity work. He will be signing for Hearts on a long term contract and folk still doubting this can relax. You could not meet nicer people and we should be grateful he has chosen Hearts to spend the rest of his career with and possibly. beyond that when he moves into msnagement/coaching. Not a dig at Mr & Mrs Naismith but that’s an attitude that’s easier to adopt when you’re stinking rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 10 hours ago, JamboAl said: If we assume SN is on £30k per week at Norwich and we're going to pay him say £3k pw, by delaying signing he will receive £130 gross from them and it will save us over £13k for that magical 13th month. If he had signed right away he would have lost (on these random figures) £117k gross. I reckon we'll have offered him at least double of £3k per week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Is Naismith being a wage thief ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, Paulp74 said: I reckon we'll have offered him at least double of £3k per week. That's a separate issue. I was using random figures for illustration purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: Not a dig at Mr & Mrs Naismith but that’s an attitude that’s easier to adopt when you’re stinking rich. Yes but there are many 'stinking rich' who contribute nothing . They choose to help people and , rather obviously , if they weren't 'stinking rich' they couldn't contribute too much . Think your post is about snidey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulp74 said: I reckon we'll have offered him at least double of £3k per week. Nobody at hearts gets 6k per week, and for the foreseeable that wont change either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkabalaJam Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 He's opening a restaurant up in Stewarton, will need the extra cash for fit out and prop it up when it goes wrong ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19/05/2012 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I’m pretty sure it was said at a shareholders meeting recently that the wage cap at Hearts is 3k per week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 hours ago, dazajmbo said: Nobody at hearts gets 6k per week, and for the foreseeable that wont change either. Basic or including win/performance related bonuses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Basic or including win/performance related bonuses? Unsure about bonuses other than I know we dont really get involved in bonuses appearances etc. Nobody at hearts is on more than 4k a week Edited June 9, 2019 by dazajmbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 16 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Yes, he has made a fortune from football and is set up for life. His wife has set up a new business in dentistry but Steven and her are not driven by money. They are people who care about helping folk who are not so fortunate in life as can be seen by his charity work. He will be signing for Hearts on a long term contract and folk still doubting this can relax. You could not meet nicer people and we should be grateful he has chosen Hearts to spend the rest of his career with and possibly. beyond that when he moves into msnagement/coaching. Whether or not they are driven by money and regardless of how much they have in their piggy banks, setting up a new business in dentistry does not come on the cheap. If new premises are needed, along with new equipment, I am guessing at a hefty six-figure sum. Then of course she would have to carry staffing costs before she could pull a living a wage for herself. "The average salary for a Dentist is £77,620 per year in Scotland" is a figure I've seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 minute ago, dazajmbo said: Unsure about bonuses other than I know we dont really get involved in bonuses appearances etc. Nobody at hearts is on more than 4k a week I genuinely thought we were big on performance related pay so low basics but decent add ons. Every day is a school day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, dazajmbo said: Unsure about bonuses other than I know we dont really get involved in bonuses appearances etc. Nobody at hearts is on more than 4k a week Untrue ! We 100% have bonus system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: I genuinely thought we were big on performance related pay so low basics but decent add ons. Every day is a school day. You're spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Untrue ! We 100% have bonus system 24 minutes ago, dazajmbo said: Unsure about bonuses other than I know we dont really get involved in bonuses appearances etc. Nobody at hearts is on more than 4k a week What I said was we don't really get involved in it, there are of course players on bonuses what I meant was there are very few on bonuses. I'd say about 10-15% of the players get performance bonuses. The rest don't have bonuses and it's something the club overall try not to get into on contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, dazajmbo said: What I said was we don't really get involved in it, there are of course players on bonuses what I meant was there are very few on bonuses. I'd say about 10-15% of the players get performance bonuses. The rest don't have bonuses and it's something the club overall try not to get into on contracts. What a crock of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, dazajmbo said: What I said was we don't really get involved in it, there are of course players on bonuses what I meant was there are very few on bonuses. I'd say about 10-15% of the players get performance bonuses. The rest don't have bonuses and it's something the club overall try not to get into on contracts. Performance at hearts is bonus related and was confirmed by Ann budge at agm couple years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Nobody knows what Naismith or his wife earn or are going to earn. Neither should they. Same as nobody on here knows what individual players earn. It's all made up bollox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Just now, jambopilms said: Nobody knows what Naismith or his wife earn or are going to earn. Neither should they. Same as nobody on here knows what individual players earn. It's all made up bollox. Exactly ! Nobody's business what the players earn but we certainly have performance related bonus system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Oh Daza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 The players must’ve thought the win bonuses were shite last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 hours ago, SkabalaJam said: He's opening a restaurant up in Stewarton, will need the extra cash for fit out and prop it up when it goes wrong ??? Is he hiring Willie Miller to run it for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 On 06/06/2019 at 20:34, andyscott82 said: If people could just read this over and over, until it gets stuck in their heads, it would probably save a lot of pointless gibbering on this thread. Would be disappointed if people were ITK on wages. Private and confidential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamborg Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 3 hours ago, dazajmbo said: What I said was we don't really get involved in it, there are of course players on bonuses what I meant was there are very few on bonuses. I'd say about 10-15% of the players get performance bonuses. The rest don't have bonuses and it's something the club overall try not to get into on contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 hours ago, FarmerTweedy said: Is he hiring Willie Miller to run it for him? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Sir Gio said: Would be disappointed if people were ITK on wages. Private and confidential Unless certain players shout their mouths off about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Just now, Jammy T said: Unless certain players shout their mouths off about it. Then that is their business. Highly unlikely the title subject would belong there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 3 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Oh Daza This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 5 hours ago, dazajmbo said: What I said was we don't really get involved in it, there are of course players on bonuses what I meant was there are very few on bonuses. I'd say about 10-15% of the players get performance bonuses. The rest don't have bonuses and it's something the club overall try not to get into on contracts. You maybe know a bit about transfers but that post is nonsense and obviously made up. Keep to stuff you know instead of something that you clearly don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie1874 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 On 08/06/2019 at 14:41, Inch Hearts said: Steven Davis? Thinking about the Davis situation. When Davis joined them in January it was pretty certain they will be playing in Europe in the next season, so allowing for a later registration to allow him an extra payment (assuming he does have that) would possibly have had an impact on his availability. As we would have had to review when Naismith signed if we won the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 What’s the up to date position on his injury? Could that be impacting things still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Reckon he is waiting for his cash, if im joining the freely reported dots up correctly. Will chillax till start Jul therefore, and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: What’s the up to date position on his injury? Could that be impacting things still? Yeah, his knees have completely gone. They’re adding extra disabled access to get him up to Ann Budge’s office to sign his new 8 year deal. The delay is because they’ve forgotten to order the lifts. In the meantime the cost of lifts has soared globally so the project is 200% over budget. Scarf above wheelchair photo is imminent ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 09/06/2019 at 18:36, Debut 4 said: The players must’ve thought the win bonuses were shite last season. Issued foodbank map with strip and contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Elwood P said: Yeah, his knees have completely gone. They’re adding extra disabled access to get him up to Ann Budge’s office to sign his new 8 year deal. The delay is because they’ve forgotten to order the lifts. In the meantime the cost of lifts has soared globally so the project is 200% over budget. Scarf above wheelchair photo is imminent ... Knew it!! ??♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 09/06/2019 at 17:46, dazajmbo said: What I said was we don't really get involved in it, there are of course players on bonuses what I meant was there are very few on bonuses. I'd say about 10-15% of the players get performance bonuses. The rest don't have bonuses and it's something the club overall try not to get into on contracts. ?? I wondered where the missing 15% from the Charlie Adam signing went ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 09/06/2019 at 18:46, dazajmbo said: What I said was we don't really get involved in it, there are of course players on bonuses what I meant was there are very few on bonuses. I'd say about 10-15% of the players get performance bonuses. The rest don't have bonuses and it's something the club overall try not to get into on contracts. How do you know this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Big news just in folks. Trying to get my head round it before I post it on this thread ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, StevenNaismith said: Big news just in folks. Trying to get my head round it before I post it on this thread ? ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, StevenNaismith said: Big news just in folks. Trying to get my head round it before I post it on this thread ? ??? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, StevenNaismith said: Big news just in folks. Trying to get my head round it before I post it on this thread ? Now THAT'S attention whoring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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