Top Corner Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BobbyJenkins said: Pumped out, belt up lol I'd be interested to know the success rate of players we've loaned out and have came back to secure a regular first team place. Edited August 30, 2018 by Top Corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Top Corner said: I'd be interested to know the success rate of players we've loaned out and have came back to secure a regular first team place. Away n do some research then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 40 minutes ago, Top Corner said: He's been pumped out on loan mate lol Well that settles it then. 18 year old comes over from part-time football on a 3-year contract and is loaned to a fellow Premiership club for regular first-team football = not good enough for us. You have to be at the wind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Top Corner said: I'd be interested to know the success rate of players we've loaned out and have came back to secure a regular first team place. In recent years: Marcus Godinho Robbie Neilson Calumn Morrison (possibly) Ryan McGowan Dylan McGowan Not great if your looking for stats, but it's all down to the player themselves. Neilson said it toughened him up as a player and was the best thing that could have happened to his career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, rudi must stay said: In recent years: Marcus Godinho Robbie Neilson Calumn Morrison (possibly) Ryan McGowan Dylan McGowan Not great if your looking for stats, but it's all down to the player themselves. Neilson said it toughened him up as a player and was the best thing that could have happened to his career You can add Craig Gordon, Jamie walker and Holt to that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, rudi must stay said: In recent years: Marcus Godinho Robbie Neilson Calumn Morrison (possibly) Ryan McGowan Dylan McGowan Not great if your looking for stats, but it's all down to the player themselves. Neilson said it toughened him up as a player and was the best thing that could have happened to his career Jamie Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Top Corner said: I'd be interested to know the success rate of players we've loaned out and have came back to secure a regular first team place. Robbie Neilson, Ryan McGowan, Jamie Walker, Jason Holt are examples Probably quite a low success rate. Also players are sent on loan these days once we decide they are not good enough. Not just for development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Jamie Walker True. Ye and the other two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Top Corner said: I'd be interested to know the success rate of players we've loaned out and have came back to secure a regular first team place. Willie Bauld ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Mikey1874 said: Robbie Neilson, Ryan McGowan, Jamie Walker, Jason Holt are examples Probably quite a low success rate. Also players are sent on loan these days once we decide they are not good enough. Not just for development. I don't see it like that. They are loaned out and if they do well that moves them higher up in the pecking order. We will always pick a promising youngster over signing a player, but you really want them to stand out in a lower league as the standard is alot worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 11 hours ago, geomac said: 114 is no bad, getting a couple of pars with that? Parred the first! 9 at the 2nd. 12 at the 12th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool tae Gorgie Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Top Corner said: I can see why you only have 5 posts. No you cannot see why i have only 5 posts,i only joined this forum 2 days ago. I have my own opinions and will post what i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Robbie Neilson, Ryan McGowan, Jamie Walker, Jason Holt are examples Probably quite a low success rate. Also players are sent on loan these days once we decide they are not good enough. Not just for development. We loaned out Jamie Mac to QotS. He returned established enough to win is a cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, rudi must stay said: I don't see it like that. They are loaned out and if they do well that moves them higher up in the pecking order. We will always pick a promising youngster over signing a player, but you really want them to stand out in a lower league as the standard is alot worse Conor Sammon is on loan Ally Roy, Angus Beith, Nikolay Todorov, Harry Paton were all loaned out last season with no prospect of playing for Hearts again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naeclue Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 The loan deals help players get to a club on a longer term, whether that is with Hearts or elsewhere. It's important for Hearts in terms of recruitment that we are a good thing for players who join our club. That may mean players move on, but as long as that is in the best interests of the player, then that is good for Hearts too in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Blackpool tae Gorgie said: No you cannot see why i have only 5 posts,i only joined this forum 2 days ago. I have my own opinions and will post what i think. Good on you, well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Apprentice said: Well that settles it then. 18 year old comes over from part-time football on a 3-year contract and is loaned to a fellow Premiership club for regular first-team football = not good enough for us. You have to be at the wind up. Good chance they're not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, Top Corner said: I'd be interested to know the success rate of players we've loaned out and have came back to secure a regular first team place. Jamie Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: Parred the first! 9 at the 2nd. 12 at the 12th. Sounds like one of Garcia's rounds recently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Top Corner said: He lacks acceleration, power and crossing ability to play as an out-and-out winger. He’s not big enough to operate at the head of the attack. And while technically very good, he doesn’t yet have the ingenuity of a playmaking No.10.Well that's good to know. I know I read that EEN article earlier, doesn't fill one with confidence. In a good team and with his talent nurtured he could do well, but we've all been hoping for a Sow/Vanychek so hence why a lot are underwhelmed at Wighton. Also, our record with young strikers (if that is going to be his position) from lower league isn't great (Wyness, Reilly, Muirhead...), hopefully this one turns out better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Morrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve_Jersey_HMFC said: I know I read that EEN article earlier, doesn't fill one with confidence. In a good team and with his talent nurtured he could do well, but we've all been hoping for a Sow/Vanychek so hence why a lot are underwhelmed at Wighton. Also, our record with young strikers (if that is going to be his position) from lower league isn't great (Wyness, Reilly, Muirhead...), hopefully this one turns out better Equally our record when signing forwards from Dundee when they are not in a lower league is pretty good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Anyway Bobby Burns is one of Ireland’s top prospects - with us getting Man Utd’s reserve player of the year it makes complete sense for him to go on loan to another SPL team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav M Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 People do realise that if we sign wighton its not as a replacement for lafferty. This is a young lad we have been looking at for a number of seasons and have decided that now is the best time for the club to try and get him. This deal will be an aside to anything else we are doing on the striker front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Our first captain in 1874 Jake 'three fingers Reid was loaned out Larkhall Loyal FC (flute club) but struggled to get a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ray has bus pass hooray said: Our first captain in 1874 Jake 'three fingers Reid was loaned out Larkhall Loyal FC (flute club) but struggled to get a game. Totally unsuited to playing flute if he only has 3 fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Conor Sammon is on loan Ally Roy, Angus Beith, Nikolay Todorov, Harry Paton were all loaned out last season with no prospect of playing for Hearts again. All of them didn't do much. If Todorov had done well for Livi, a good loan move, he'd have been given a new deal. Same with the rest of them, looked at Morrison. He did well at Stirling and for the reserves, and he's now in the first team.. Edited August 30, 2018 by rudi must stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Hearts very hopeful of him signing according to the Courier in Dundee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetboy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Anyone with decent first hand knowledge of this boy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternRossco Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Muppetboy said: Anyone with decent first hand knowledge of this boy? Was an excellent prospect before his injury, only coming back to full fitness again now so question marks if it's affected him. Very highly rated at Dundee but a square peg in a round hole for current relegation dogfight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I don't know a lot about him but people who do seem to rate him very highly. As always I'll wait until I've seen him play for us if he signs. I'd trust our management team to get the best out of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 On his wiki his style of play is described by Gavin Rae as being similar to Aaron Ramsey. Some more a 8 or a 10 than a striker. Long term replacement for Naismith? I’m sure he will learn a lot from SN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 This the John Souttar deal mk2. If Wighton was playing in a team doing well and kicking on personally Dundee would be after half a million minimum, which would be out of our price range. Taking a gamble on his early potential, at a wage no doubt far lower than a Jamie Walker for example, is a calculated risk. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 "talent young Scottish player and we want talented young Scottish players at Hearts" "Hopeful of him signing" Went as far as to say he'd be involved on Saturday. Sounds very close making a comment like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny1874 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Gav M said: People do realise that if we sign wighton its not as a replacement for lafferty. This is a young lad we have been looking at for a number of seasons and have decided that now is the best time for the club to try and get him. This deal will be an aside to anything else we are doing on the striker front. This. Regardless of whether or not we get Wighton in, we will most likely still be looking for a replacement for Lafferty - hence the desire to get Vanecek in early. However if Teplice don’t get a replacement then we won’t be getting him until January, and it looks like the Sow deal is dead. I wonder if we have someone else lined up that nobody’s mentioned. If Uche gets an injury then we’re ****** so hopefully we have a back up plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Jammy T said: Anyway Bobby Burns is one of Ireland’s top prospects - with us getting Man Utd’s reserve player of the year it makes complete sense for him to go on loan to another SPL team... The fact that he's gone to a Premier League team rather than the Championship or lower tells us something about how he's rated by our coaches. They're obviously happy that he'll thrive at that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Saying he’s passed his medical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 See on Twitter Dundee papers saying medical complete should be done soon this afternoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Top Corner said: He lacks acceleration, power and crossing ability to play as an out-and-out winger. He’s not big enough to operate at the head of the attack. And while technically very good, he doesn’t yet have the ingenuity of a playmaking No.10.Well that's good to know. I know Fowler is a good pundit who watches alot of football. But I am surprised at these comments, especially as he has shown plenty of ingenuity as a footballer so far. I think he's jumped to conclusions due to Dundee selling him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Sign in time for the STV 6 o clock news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, John Findlay said: Sign in time for the STV 6 o clock news. Sounds like he'll sign before that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 He’s at the Oriam just now. I’d imagine he will be revealed later on this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Hope Rima gave that knee a good tap with the wand!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gav M said: People do realise that if we sign wighton its not as a replacement for lafferty. This is a young lad we have been looking at for a number of seasons and have decided that now is the best time for the club to try and get him. This deal will be an aside to anything else we are doing on the striker front. Big DV is quite clearly Lafferty’s replacement. Wighton sounds more of a prospect as you say and a replacement for Milinkovic. Edited August 30, 2018 by WeeChuck'sHeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTS FOREVER Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Maybe Levein see's him as the next Paul Hartley project. Edited August 30, 2018 by HEARTS FOREVER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, WeeChuck'sHeed said: Big DV is quite clearly Lafferty’s replacement. Wighton sounds more of a prospect as you say and a replacement for Milinkovic. This. One for the future, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Was he any good, Ray ?? Hes thinking back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Ray has bus pass hooray said: Our first captain in 1874 Jake 'three fingers Reid was loaned out Larkhall Loyal FC (flute club) but struggled to get a game. 13 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Was he any good, Ray ?? One of the messiest autographs I've ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, I P Knightley said: One of the messiest autographs I've ever seen He was able to do the 3-1 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 32 minutes ago, WeeChuck'sHeed said: Big DV is quite clearly Lafferty’s replacement. Wighton sounds more of a prospect as you say and a replacement for Milinkovic. Think so too. But not when he was on the wing, when he was in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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