johnthomas Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Spencer said: Not sure I follow. Am I trying to bump up the price of who? I have no idea if Jamie was in Wigan or not. As I stated above - good luck to him I'll be pleased when he has gone We are trying to punt Walker . You are talking him down . Sorry thought it was pretty obvious , sarcasm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: What happens if he fails a medical at Wigan Then Levein will continue to pick him if he shows willing in training and shows his worth on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 So Walker is having a medical at Wigan, nice one,should get some cash if it pans out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, Jambo92 said: Just know that he will turn down Wigan and spend the next 6 months waiting for Rangers to come along, they won't and he will beg Hearts for a new deal, we won't and he will end up on Aberdeen's bench or something. I fear we will end up offering him a new contract and it will be more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Walker will be raging. Liking all those rangers related posts on Instagram and still didn't get his move . Dull one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, Yoda said: I fear we will end up offering him a new contract and it will be more of the same. I do worry about such an outcome. It certainly could happen as his already limited options narrow further. If he did come back with his tail between his legs I suspect we would deal him in Time has come for parting of the ways. He is incredibly stale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, Yoda said: I fear we will end up offering him a new contract and it will be more of the same. why? He's refused the contract. Doubt its still on the table and I'd actually be livid if it was. Time to move on for both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 There was something wrong with that whole generation of Hearts youngsters. Seemed to think that because they kept their jobs and got chances to shine in the first team due to our economic situation, that this somehow meant they deserved mega-rewards once the club got back on track...None of them seemed recognise that merely having jobs and first team experience at that age was a total boon for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Longshanks said: Walker will be raging. Liking all those rangers related posts on Instagram and still didn't get his move . Dull one. Cautionary tale! Now he has to live in Wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) On 31/12/2017 at 02:24, socrates82 said: talent and injuries aside I don’t think JW has the mentality to make it down south. The boy is being led down a very slippery slope by either agent or family I don’t know but he won’t make it down there. I would put my house on it! There is no chance Edited January 4, 2018 by red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumpson Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 This time last year I'd have been desperate for him to sign an extension, now I'll be glad when he goes. He's served us well and vice versa, time for both to move on. No point in any sell-on clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Son Of Anarchy said: why? He's refused the contract. Doubt its still on the table and I'd actually be livid if it was. Time to move on for both parties. CL keeps picking him, even though he's clearly just going through the motions, so I think he still rates him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, OTT said: Cautionary tale! Now he has to live in Wigan Why does he have to live in Wigan? Even if he does sign for them. Leafy Cheshire very close by where most of the City and Utd players probably live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Yoda said: CL keeps picking him, even though he's clearly just going through the motions, so I think he still rates him. Clearly CL doesn’t think Walker is “just going through the motions”. Neither do I for that matter. CL would never play a player who wasn’t giving everything he had, in my opinion. Not that he is playing well either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Why does he have to live in Wigan? Even if he does sign for them. Leafy Cheshire very close by where most of the City and Utd players probably live. Dont all the Hearts players live on Gorgie Road??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 He still no away yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yoda said: CL keeps picking him, even though he's clearly just going through the motions, so I think he still rates him. That actually did my nut in. Shoe horn him into the team, throw KL out wide and for what? A player who isn't even close to deserving a start? I'd have dropped him long ago. Edited January 4, 2018 by Son Of Anarchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Must be some medical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Spellczech said: There was something wrong with that whole generation of Hearts youngsters. Seemed to think that because they kept their jobs and got chances to shine in the first team due to our economic situation, that this somehow meant they deserved mega-rewards once the club got back on track...None of them seemed recognise that merely having jobs and first team experience at that age was a total boon for them! Don't agree at all. To a man they gave it their all everytime they played. They were a good generation for Hearts, I just hope the next one is even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 6 hours ago, SpruceBringsteen said: I'm as apathetic about his leaving as he was about playing for us. This. Hard to believe so many pages are devoted to a guy who doesn't even want to be at Hearts. Good luck to him wherever he goes (and he surely will) but I cannot believe that Wigan are gonna buy him with a view to getting into the Championship. He's never gonna make it in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: Don't agree at all. To a man they gave it their all everytime they played. They were a good generation for Hearts, I just hope the next one is even better Walker is pretty much the last one of that batch. We got pretty much nothing for any of them by way of a transfer fee. Paterson is the only one who will make it at any sort of level above Hearts imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, Spencer said: Walker is pretty much the last one of that batch. We got pretty much nothing for any of them by way of a transfer fee. Paterson is the only one who will make it at any sort of level above Hearts imo it's been strange that they didn't attract interest but I think due to Ann Budge we're not considered a soft touch anymore. Paterson will definatly, but I think Walker could do well down south, get him in a well organised team and he's given license to bomb forward he could be a great signing and Wigan seem a good footballing side for him to start with. The Rangers thing was sad but still quality player, out of the group the best with the ball at his feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, rudi must stay said: it's been strange that they didn't attract interest but I think due to Ann Budge we're not considered a soft touch anymore. Paterson will definatly, but I think Walker could do well down south, get him in a well organised team and he's given license to bomb forward he could be a great signing and Wigan seem a good footballing side for him to start with. The Rangers thing was sad but still quality player, out of the group the best with the ball at his feet For the good of his career I hope you are right. I just can't see Walker making it. His fitness and pace issues will be crudely exposed imo. The rest simply weren't good enough to move on for any meaningful money There are a few emerging now who appear to have a real chance. Very early for the likes of Cochrane and McDonald. They are clearly talented along with Brandon and Henderson etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spencer said: For the good of his career I hope you are right. I just can't see Walker making it. His fitness and pace issues will be crudely exposed imo. The rest simply weren't good enough to move on for any meaningful money There are a few emerging now who appear to have a real chance. Very early for the likes of Cochrane and McDonald. They are clearly talented along with Brandon and Henderson etc He has amazing skill on the ball, actually his stats in a Hearts shirt are very good. 12-15 goals on average a season. Funny player I think he's never really been appreciated, maybe he will be at another club. The workrate and attitude of the new group looks top class IMO, Great enthusiasm from them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Spencer said: Walker is pretty much the last one of that batch. We got pretty much nothing for any of them by way of a transfer fee. Paterson is the only one who will make it at any sort of level above Hearts imo Spot on , think Walker will be playing for Hamilton or Dundee in a couple of seasons ! We should have cashed him in when we had the chance with Rangers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, fila said: Spot on , think Walker will be playing for Hamilton or Dundee in a couple of seasons ! We should have cashed him in when we had the chance with Rangers . Absolutely right. I thought we should have taken the money and ran in the summer. We have got precisely what I feared we would get from him in the intervening 6 months - nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Son Of Anarchy said: That actually did my nut in. Shoe horn him into the team, throw KL out wide and for what? A player who isn't even close to deserving a start? I'd have dropped him long ago. Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, fila said: Spot on , think Walker will be playing for Hamilton or Dundee in a couple of seasons ! We should have cashed him in when we had the chance with Rangers . Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Yoda said: I fear we will end up offering him a new contract and it will be more of the same. I'd be happy if Walker stays. I don't get this thing of rubbishing players because they decide to move. It even happened with Paterson. I hate it when players want to move to Rangers but Walker is similar to Wallace. He obviously wants to stay in Scotland ideally and earn decent money - that means Rangers or Celtic. Rangers played him and hopefully he gets a move elsewhere but if he stays with us I'll be delighted. If he moves, there's no reason why he can't make it if someone like Barry McKay can, who was not as good as Walker when you compare their overall careers in Scotland so far. Walker has been one of our best attacking players of the last 5 years. He's ahead of our other recent wingers Driver, Nicolson, Temps, Miko and Cesnauskis in terms of his contribution over several seasons. Obviously he's way behind the likes of Rudi, Hartley and Aguiar as an attacking midfielder but Walker has more than paid his way with us. He hasn't been on the best form since Cathro came in but he has shown signs of it since Levein took over. And even this season when he's been injury-prone, off form and playing in a team that can't score, he's been by far our most dangerous midfielder: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/heart-of-midlothian/top-scorers . At least he's been trying to score, those stats hardly suggest he's been hiding. Edited January 5, 2018 by socrates82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Rothstein Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, socrates82 said: He's ahead of our other recent wingers Driver, Nicolson, Temps, Miko and Cesnauskis in terms of his contribution over several seasons. Obviously he's way behind the likes of Rudi, Hartley and Aguiar as an attacking midfielder but Walker has more than paid his way with us. Not sure I agree he’s ahead of any of those you’ve listed tbh. He’s about the same level as Nicholson and way behind the others I would argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, socrates82 said: I'd be happy if Walker stays. I don't get this thing of rubbishing players because they decide to move. It even happened with Paterson. I hate it when players want to move to Rangers but Walker is similar to Wallace. He obviously wants to stay in Scotland ideally and earn decent money - that means Rangers or Celtic. Rangers played him and hopefully he gets a move elsewhere but if he stays with us I'll be delighted. If he moves, there's no reason why he can't make it if someone like Barry McKay can, who was not as good as Walker when you compare their overall careers in Scotland so far. Walker has been one of our best attacking players of the last 5 years. He's ahead of our other recent wingers Driver, Nicolson, Temps, Miko and Cesnauskis in terms of his contribution over several seasons. Obviously he's way behind the likes of Rudi, Hartley and Aguiar as an attacking midfielder but Walker has more than paid his way with us. He hasn't been on the best form since Cathro came in but he has shown signs of it since Levein took over. And even this season when he's been injury-prone, off form and playing in a team that can't score, he's been by far our most dangerous midfielder: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/heart-of-midlothian/top-scorers . At least he's been trying to score, those stats hardly suggest he's been hiding. Wallace’s form never fell off a cliff before he left. Also Miko was a much better player than Jamie Walker. The others are debatable too. Edited January 5, 2018 by Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 hours ago, socrates82 said: Walker has been one of our best attacking players of the last 5 years. He's ahead of our other recent wingers Driver, Nicolson, Temps, Miko and Cesnauskis in terms of his contribution over several seasons. Obviously he's way behind the likes of Rudi, Hartley and Aguiar as an attacking midfielder but Walker has more than paid his way with us. He is only better than Nicholson from that list. On par with Temps. Driver, Miko & Cesny all part of cup winning teams and played well over a number of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, Ryder said: Wallace’s form never fell off a cliff before he left. Also Miko was a much better player than Jamie Walker. The others are debatable too. C'mon, let's not get carried away with the hate to the point we are rewriting Miko's time at the club. He was wildly inconsistent, and often hid and shirked his way through games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, Nookie Bear said: C'mon, let's not get carried away with the hate to the point we are rewriting Miko's time at the club. He was wildly inconsistent, and often hid and shirked his way through games. Miko turned up every single derby usually scoring goals. He scored in the Champions League for us. He also had more pace and skill. I’d have Miko in my Hearts team every single day of the week before Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, Ryder said: Miko turned up every single derby usually scoring goals. He scored in the Champions League for us. He also had more pace and skill. I’d have Miko in my Hearts team every single day of the week before Jamie. 2 goals in 10 games v hibs - hardly "usually". But he did indeed turn up...apart from the derby where he was utterly rank, stupidly got sent off and the team played better because they didn;t have to carry him anymore? Miko was good, i liked him, but let us not get all misty eyed over his overall contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, Nookie Bear said: 2 goals in 10 games v hibs - hardly "usually". But he did indeed turn up...apart from the derby where he was utterly rank, stupidly got sent off and the team played better because they didn;t have to carry him anymore? Miko was good, i liked him, but let us not get all misty eyed over his overall contribution. Fair enough about goals. Walker scores more goals than Miko did. If they were strikers it would be no contest. As wingers however, Miko brought more to the team and turned up in the games where it really mattered. Miko also played as a winger predominantly and to the best of my memory never played as a number ten. If we swapped Walker for the 2004-6 Miko right now, his pace and skill would turn this team around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ryder said: Miko turned up every single derby usually scoring goals. He scored in the Champions League for us. He also had more pace and skill. I’d have Miko in my Hearts team every single day of the week before Jamie. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Ryder said: Fair enough about goals. Walker scores more goals than Miko did. If they were strikers it would be no contest. As wingers however, Miko brought more to the team and turned up in the games where it really mattered. Miko also played as a winger predominantly and to the best of my memory never played as a number ten. If we swapped Walker for the 2004-6 Miko right now, his pace and skill would turn this team around. I think your memory of Miko is clouded somewhat by your utter contempt for Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said: I think your memory of Miko is clouded somewhat by your utter contempt for Walker. Not really. I’ve given my opinions repeatedly and explained my reasons. You just trot out the same line about me hating Walker. Whatever floats yer boat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 49 minutes ago, Ryder said: Miko turned up every single derby usually scoring goals. He scored in the Champions League for us. He also had more pace and skill. I’d have Miko in my Hearts team every single day of the week before Jamie. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Walker at his best is different class to miko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: I think your memory of Miko is clouded somewhat by your utter contempt for Walker. In fairness it's not hard to have contempt for Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Walker at his best is different class to miko Disagree, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I always find it hilarious on here that once a player decides he wants to go according to some on here he was shite anyway. Grow up , he was a cracking player for us and he is now coming to the end of his time at hearts. Good luck to him wherever he goes unless he comes back to play against us then I hope he has a nightmare on that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, Spencer said: In fairness it's not hard to have contempt for Walker Except it’s not based on contempt, it based on his performances for Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Walker at his best is different class to miko 100% correct , time seems to cloud peoples judgments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 is he away yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, Spencer said: In fairness it's not hard to have contempt for Walker I totally get that, but let's not get all misty eyed over Miko's contribution which, at times, was woeful (and sometimes rather decent!) just to make a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Walker at his best is different class to miko Pity he rarely plays to his full potential. Even in the games where he plays well it tends to be for 20 to 30 minutes of the 90. He could be so much better than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinger Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 unless ive been reading it wrong, the stats ive seen (using London hearts and transfermarkt) over the whole of 2017 Jamie Walker has scored in only 4 league games and made just 1 assist, in that time he has made 31 league appearances an entire calendar year is a hell of a long time to be off form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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