Brexit Deal agreed ( updated )

[Ulysses]

 

1 minute ago, Smithee said:

 

Thank you for spelling weaponise correctly, and for describing one of my favourite pictures.

 

 

I've been looking all over for that picture!

Edited November 8, 2021 by Ulysses

[Ulysses]

Word in EU circles is that the British will invoke Article 16 over the next couple of days to give the media something other than Tory sleaze to talk about.

[Unknown user]

15 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

Word in EU circles is that the British will invoke Article 16 over the next couple of days to give the media something other than Tory sleaze to talk about.

 

It would be a mistake, it'll be seen right through.

Mind you, the narrative's already been decided, the right wing press are now reporting on tory sleaze and Boris being a ****ing moron. The knives are out, Next!

[Ked]

44 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

The dictatorship in Minsk decides to weaponise refugees by pushing them across the border into Poland.  Why?  To create instability in Poland and the EU generally because of EU sanctions against Belarus.  Straight out of the Putin playbook after Crimea.  Poland has the right to secure its borders, just as the UK does.  Why would the EU tell any member state that it can't secure its borders?

 

This is the problem with ????, I mean with you.  You see things happening in countries and jump automatically into "OMG, the EU just shat on the floor" mode. 

Ffs Ulysses I'm just feking with the natives.

And no I dont just think the shit on the floor belongs to anyone.

Itt belongs to everyone.

 

And  my point being that migration is weaponized by everyone .

If those who pretend they care about migrants really care they might actually discuss it instead of just obliterating  any such thing out the water.

 

[Ulysses]

22 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

It would be a mistake, it'll be seen right through.

Mind you, the narrative's already been decided, the right wing press are now reporting on tory sleaze and Boris being a ****ing moron. The knives are out, Next!

 

A protest was run the other night at a well-known "interface" point in Belfast.  About 30 protesters showed up, and about 70 neds from either side of the "interface" who proceeded to chuck stones at each other and the cops.  That's 30 protesters - 250 yards from the heartland of loyalism.  It's more than the two dozen or so who showed up to protest the presence of Maroš Šefčovič a few weeks ago, I guess.  The fact is that the Protocol isn't affecting either NI businesses or ordinary people in NI in any meaningfully negative way.  Because of the way the EU has consulted with and listened to business leaders there (which the British government didn't bother doing), businesses are happy with the EU proposals, and unionists on the streets have to be pushed into taking an interest in the issue.

[Ulysses]

1 minute ago, Ked said:

Ffs Ulysses I'm just feking with the natives.

And no I dont just think the shit on the floor belongs to anyone.

Itt belongs to everyone.

 

And  my point being that migration is weaponized by everyone .

If those who pretend they care about migrants really care they might actually discuss it instead of just obliterating  any such thing out the water.

 

 

It's not about caring, or pretending to care.  How do you think the migrants got to Belarus from Syria and Afghanistan?  Look at a map.

[Ked]

Just now, Ulysses said:

 

It's not about caring, or pretending to care.  How do you think the migrants got to Belarus from Syria and Afghanistan?  Look at a map.

I already said in my original comment.

Belarus invited them.

Beat them and drove them to the EU.

Didnt expect a bite from you tbh.

 

[Ked]

1 hour ago, Smithee said:

 

Ah who cares, he was a bloody spaceman then, Jesus

 

No one cares.

Except you .

You care enough to pick on certain posters.

And shut them down .

What happened to you as a poster.

 

[Ked]

1 hour ago, Alex Kintner said:

Wrong on every single count 👍🏻

Maybe.

But in general I'm 100% spot on.

[Ulysses]

12 minutes ago, Ked said:

I already said in my original comment.

Belarus invited them.

Beat them and drove them to the EU.

Didnt expect a bite from you tbh.

 

 

Belarus "invited" them.  Yeah, right.

[Unknown user]

6 minutes ago, Ked said:

No one cares.

Except you .

You care enough to pick on certain posters.

And shut them down .

What happened to you as a poster.

 

 

No one cares except you, the guy who's mentioned it how many times over the last couple of pages?

[Ked]

18 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

Belarus "invited" them.  Yeah, right.

According to the refugees themselves.

 

[Ked]

11 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

No one cares 

 

[Ulysses]

1 hour ago, Ked said:

According to the refugees themselves.

 

 

What would they know?  Putin owns Lukashenko's arse.

[The Mighty Thor]

7 hours ago, Ulysses said:

Word in EU circles is that the British will invoke Article 16 over the next couple of days to give the media something other than Tory sleaze to talk about.

What?

A deceased pussy?

 

They'd never stoop that low🤔

[Alex Kintner]

8 hours ago, Ulysses said:

Word in EU circles is that the British will invoke Article 16 over the next couple of days to give the media something other than Tory sleaze to talk about.

Dead cat tactics. This govt really is a shitshow.

[Alex Kintner]

7 hours ago, Ked said:

Maybe.

But in general I'm 100% spot on.

That doesn’t even make sense. 🤷🏻‍♂️ But anyway, I’ll leave it there as it’s off-topic.

[Ked]

6 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

What would they know?  Putin owns Lukashenko's arse.

I'm not disagreeing that he does.

The refugees are not Belorussians btw.

 

[Ulysses]

16 hours ago, Ked said:

I'm not disagreeing that he does.

The refugees are not Belorussians btw.

 

 

And?  Two national leaders (I'm being polite here) are tag-teaming to use those people as a device to cause political trouble for neighbouring countries.

 

So what do you do?  Let's see.

 

Have a go at leader A and his country for not looking after those refugees and instead funneling them to the territory of leader B?  That'd be a valid criticism, but it doesn't suit you.

 

Have a go at leader B and his country for not looking after those refugees and instead trying to beat, shoot and hound them into another country?  That'd be a valid criticism, but it doesn't suit you.

 

Wait until they've been beaten to the border of an EU country and then gleefully jump in with one of your "the EU have shit on the floor" posts?  Yep, bang on the ****ing cash, that one.

 

Why don't you look around and check if you've got a moral compass somewhere in your house?

[Ked]

On 10/11/2021 at 00:54, Ulysses said:

 

And?  Two national leaders (I'm being polite here) are tag-teaming to use those people as a device to cause political trouble for neighbouring countries.

 

So what do you do?  Let's see.

 

Have a go at leader A and his country for not looking after those refugees and instead funneling them to the territory of leader B?  That'd be a valid criticism, but it doesn't suit you.

 

Have a go at leader B and his country for not looking after those refugees and instead trying to beat, shoot and hound them into another country?  That'd be a valid criticism, but it doesn't suit you.

 

Wait until they've been beaten to the border of an EU country and then gleefully jump in with one of your "the EU have shit on the floor" posts?  Yep, bang on the ****ing cash, that one.

 

Why don't you look around and check if you've got a moral compass somewhere in your house?

I thought I'd leave replying for a bit.

As I said I dont disagree with you about why and who are at it.

 

My gleeful post was mischief making And was supposed to be a caricature of posts on here.

 

I looked around my house btw.

Theres one here somewhere but its hiding.

😣😛

[Ulysses]

2 hours ago, Ked said:

I thought I'd leave replying for a bit.

As I said I dont disagree with you about why and who are at it.

 

My gleeful post was mischief making And was supposed to be a caricature of posts on here.

 

I looked around my house btw.

Theres one here somewhere but its hiding.

😣😛

 

 

A Polish news report says that 10 people have died on the border.  Probably the EU's fault for shitting on the floor.

 

Top bantz, isn't it?

[WorldChampions1902]

9 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

A Polish news report says that 10 people have died on the border.  Probably the EU's fault for shitting on the floor.

 

Top bantz, isn't it?

And to think there is a vocal minority in the U.K. that is fully in favour of us punting dinghies full of refugees back in the direction of France. Sickening.

[Ainsley Harriott]

19 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

And to think there is a vocal minority in the U.K. that is fully in favour of us punting dinghies full of refugees back in the direction of France. Sickening.

If they want to be double vaccinated care workers or HGV drivers then I would welcome them. 

[Unknown user]

Just now, Ainsley Harriott said:

If they want to be double vaccinated care workers or HGV drivers then I would welcome them. 

 

And how do you know they don't?

[Japan Jambo]

On 07/11/2021 at 21:40, WorldChampions1902 said:

 

🤣 

[Unknown user]

9 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

A Polish news report says that 10 people have died on the border.  Probably the EU's fault for shitting on the floor.

 

Top bantz, isn't it?

 

 

Too much of this on here

[Ked]

15 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

A Polish news report says that 10 people have died on the border.  Probably the EU's fault for shitting on the floor.

 

Top bantz, isn't it?

Now you are twisting my original post.

6 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

And to think there is a vocal minority in the U.K. that is fully in favour of us punting dinghies full of refugees back in the direction of France. Sickening.

 

 

[Ulysses]

8 hours ago, Smithee said:

 

 

Too much of this on here

 

Yes.  Weirdos.  All the EU's fault, of course.

 

 

[Don Dan]

Voters want to reverse Brexit amid shortages and EU clashes, polls show

‘Momentum shifting towards a majority who would now vote to rejoin the EU’ – including one in ten Leavers.

Voters now want to rejoin the EU, polls show, in evidence that goods shortages and spats with Brussels are fuelling disillusionment with Brexit.

A four-point surge in support for reversing the 2016 referendum means 53 per cent back membership in a survey by Savanta ComRes, with 47 per cent wanting to stay out of the EU.

One in ten Leave voters want to rejoin the bloc, as do one in five Conservative supporters, the poll found – while 40 per cent of adults back a fresh referendum within the next five years.

Strikingly, it is the second survey in recent days to have produced the same six-point margin in favour of EU membership – nearly one year after Brexit was completed.

 

https://apple.news/AN-MhrElPTOydjcc_UxVGwQ

[WorldChampions1902]

41 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Voters want to reverse Brexit amid shortages and EU clashes, polls show

‘Momentum shifting towards a majority who would now vote to rejoin the EU’ – including one in ten Leavers.

Voters now want to rejoin the EU, polls show, in evidence that goods shortages and spats with Brussels are fuelling disillusionment with Brexit.

A four-point surge in support for reversing the 2016 referendum means 53 per cent back membership in a survey by Savanta ComRes, with 47 per cent wanting to stay out of the EU.

One in ten Leave voters want to rejoin the bloc, as do one in five Conservative supporters, the poll found – while 40 per cent of adults back a fresh referendum within the next five years.

Strikingly, it is the second survey in recent days to have produced the same six-point margin in favour of EU membership – nearly one year after Brexit was completed.

 

https://apple.news/AN-MhrElPTOydjcc_UxVGwQ

 

[Unknown user]

44 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Voters want to reverse Brexit amid shortages and EU clashes, polls show

‘Momentum shifting towards a majority who would now vote to rejoin the EU’ – including one in ten Leavers.

Voters now want to rejoin the EU, polls show, in evidence that goods shortages and spats with Brussels are fuelling disillusionment with Brexit.

A four-point surge in support for reversing the 2016 referendum means 53 per cent back membership in a survey by Savanta ComRes, with 47 per cent wanting to stay out of the EU.

One in ten Leave voters want to rejoin the bloc, as do one in five Conservative supporters, the poll found – while 40 per cent of adults back a fresh referendum within the next five years.

Strikingly, it is the second survey in recent days to have produced the same six-point margin in favour of EU membership – nearly one year after Brexit was completed.

 

https://apple.news/AN-MhrElPTOydjcc_UxVGwQ

 

47% want to stay out

 

[Des Lynam]

48 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Voters want to reverse Brexit amid shortages and EU clashes, polls show

‘Momentum shifting towards a majority who would now vote to rejoin the EU’ – including one in ten Leavers.

Voters now want to rejoin the EU, polls show, in evidence that goods shortages and spats with Brussels are fuelling disillusionment with Brexit.

A four-point surge in support for reversing the 2016 referendum means 53 per cent back membership in a survey by Savanta ComRes, with 47 per cent wanting to stay out of the EU.

One in ten Leave voters want to rejoin the bloc, as do one in five Conservative supporters, the poll found – while 40 per cent of adults back a fresh referendum within the next five years.

Strikingly, it is the second survey in recent days to have produced the same six-point margin in favour of EU membership – nearly one year after Brexit was completed.

 

https://apple.news/AN-MhrElPTOydjcc_UxVGwQ

 

 

Are Labour brave enough to force the issue? 

[WorldChampions1902]

12 minutes ago, Des Lynam said:

 

 

Are Labour brave enough to force the issue? 

Nope. ‘Keith’ has made Labour’s position crystal clear. I.e Keep the Red Wall voters happy.

[RobboM]

Seems like one of those voters who were fooled by the Brexit campaign and didn't know what they were really voting for was Johnson

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/dominic-cummings-claims-pm-did-not-grasp-what-leaving-eu-trade-area-meant-until-after-brexit-1298747

[Don Dan]

41 minutes ago, Des Lynam said:

 

 

Are Labour brave enough to force the issue? 

Starmer had his chance they other day but said he wants to better the deal we have(not hard). However if polls start to show a ground swell to rejoining he may well come on board. 

[Ulysses]

1 hour ago, Boy Daniel said:

Starmer had his chance they other day but said he wants to better the deal we have(not hard). However if polls start to show a ground swell to rejoining he may well come on board. 

 

Improving the existing deal might be a runner, but rejoining isn't - and I'm saying that even though I'd really prefer if the UK hadn't left.  In any case, if a campaign gets going a 6-point lead for rejoining would evaporate, IMO.

[WorldChampions1902]

11 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

Improving the existing deal might be a runner, but rejoining isn't - and I'm saying that even though I'd really prefer if the UK hadn't left.  In any case, if a campaign gets going a 6-point lead for rejoining would evaporate, IMO.

Medium term, I am hopeful that rejoining the Single Market and Customs Union is achievable.

[jack D and coke]

Cummings continues to expose this ****wit

[Don Dan]

Brexit: Tariffs paid on £9.5bn of UK exports to EU despite Boris Johnson’s claim of ‘tariff-free’ deal

One in eight traders have lost business – while a quarter of small firms consider moving operations out of Britain, Dispatches reports.

 

https://apple.news/Ah_aTZdn7QbCkXGmrrDX0wg

[Nucky Thompson]

Shell ditch the Dutch and move their HQ to the UK. Hmmmm

 

Shell ditches the Dutch, seeks move to London in overhaul | Reuters

[The Mighty Thor]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Shell ditch the Dutch and move their HQ to the UK. Hmmmm

 

Shell ditches the Dutch, seeks move to London in overhaul | Reuters

 

As part of a tax dodge. They have to pay dividend tax the Netherlands but over here they only have to donate to the Conservative party. 

 

 

[Alex Kintner]

4 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

 

As part of a tax dodge. They have to pay dividend tax the Netherlands but over here they only have to donate to the Conservative party. 

 

 

Yep. Also allows them to avoid the more stringent Dutch environmental regulations.

[Nucky Thompson]

8 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

 

As part of a tax dodge. They have to pay dividend tax the Netherlands but over here they only have to donate to the Conservative party. 

 

 

Why not choose to relocate to another EU country seeing as the UK is such a basket case?

[The Mighty Thor]

3 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:

Yep. Also allows them to avoid the more stringent Dutch environmental regulations.

smog shrouded uplands 

[The Mighty Thor]

Just now, Nucky Thompson said:

Why not choose to relocate to another EU country seeing as the UK is such a basket case?

where are you going to go? Another European capital, part of the same trading block with environmental, legal and financial equivalences or a tin pot dictatorship where you can grease palms and do WTF you want?

 

 

[Unknown user]

Just now, Nucky Thompson said:

Why not choose to relocate to another EU country seeing as the UK is such a basket case?

 

They'll set up a board in London, be listed in London, and that's about it from what I've read there.

 

I know you say you're not a tory, you only vote for them, but you don't half come across tory.

[Nucky Thompson]

1 minute ago, Smithee said:

 

They'll set up a board in London, be listed in London, and that's about it from what I've read there.

 

I know you say you're not a tory, you only vote for them, but you don't half come across tory.

I don't know all the details, but they have changed their name from Royal Dutch Shell to Shell PLC.

My sister worked for them for 20 years when she lived in The Hague, so I think they are a big employer over there.

 

There's nothing Tory about wanting the UK to prosper. Most Brexit voters in the North were Labour.

1,050,000 voted for it in Scotland

[Alex Kintner]

12 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Why not choose to relocate to another EU country seeing as the UK is such a basket case?

Because it currently has a dual-based structure of Holland and the UK 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Nucky Thompson]

6 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:

Because it currently has a dual-based structure of Holland and the UK 🤷🏻‍♂️

Cheers. It makes sense then  

[Unknown user]

11 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I don't know all the details, but they have changed their name from Royal Dutch Shell to Shell PLC.

My sister worked for them for 20 years when she lived in The Hague, so I think they are a big employer over there.

 

There's nothing Tory about wanting the UK to prosper. Most Brexit voters in the North were Labour.

1,050,000 voted for it in Scotland

 

That's right, they were BV being Dutch, now that they're listed in London they'll be a PLC.

They are a big employer over there, that won't change.

 

What benefits will come to Britain that suggest this will help us prosper though, if that's what you're happy about?

As I say it looks like they're setting up a board and listing in London and that's about it.