Brexit Deal agreed ( updated )

[Ulysses]

On 04/09/2021 at 23:22, Boy Daniel said:

Brexit beginning to bite hard now. Vets in short supply now as well. 

 

Britain running out of vets?  That's not Brexit, it's PTSD from dealing with the after-effects of Highland terrier bumming truckers. 

 

 

Meanwhile:

 

 

[Ulysses]

 

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

😂

[The Real Maroonblood]

4 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

[Cade]

7 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

 

[Beni]

The UK about to fall out of Germany's top 10 trading partners for the first time in 70 years.

 

Just wait till those uppity Germans find out who holds all the cards.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58484454.amp

[WorldChampions1902]

32 minutes ago, Beni said:

The UK about to fall out of Germany's top 10 trading partners for the first time in 70 years.

 

Just wait till those uppity Germans find out who holds all the cards.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58484454.amp

[Cade]

DUP threatening to walk out of the power sharing deal unless the Protocol is re-written.

 

See ya then, ya dicks.

 

 

[The Mighty Thor]

27 minutes ago, Cade said:

DUP threatening to walk out of the power sharing deal unless the Protocol is re-written.

 

See ya then, ya dicks.

 

 

They must be after a bit more dough to keep their backward flag shagging introverts in check. 

 

How about another billion 😂

[Unknown user]

1 hour ago, Beni said:

The UK about to fall out of Germany's top 10 trading partners for the first time in 70 years.

 

Just wait till those uppity Germans find out who holds all the cards.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58484454.amp

 

'Gabriel Felbermayr, president of the Kiel-based Institute for the World Economy, said: "The UK's loss of importance in foreign trade is the logical consequence of Brexit. These are probably lasting effects."'

 

 

[Konrad von Carstein]

12 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

'Gabriel Felbermayr, president of the Kiel-based Institute for the World Economy, said: "The UK's loss of importance in foreign trade is the logical consequence of Brexit. These are probably lasting effects."'

 

 

 

Blue passports but...

 

[The Mighty Thor]

1 hour ago, Cade said:

DUP threatening to walk out of the power sharing deal unless the Protocol is re-written.

 

See ya then, ya dicks.

 

 

Just seen Jeffrey Donaldson's presser, where the EU are apparently 'continuing to impose an un-necessary protocol' on Norn Iron.

 

 

[Boab]

1 hour ago, Cade said:

DUP threatening to walk out of the power sharing deal unless the Protocol is re-written.

 

See ya then, ya dicks.

 

 

 

[Cade]

The UN-registered, EU and USA guaranteed International Peace Treaty that we like to call the "Good Friday Agreement" prohibits a border in Ireland.

So that's not happening.

 

DUP say no to a border running down the Irish sea.

So the protocol is the only workable compromise.

 

But the DUP also say no to that.

 

So what exactly is it that these feckin dinosaurs want?

[Boab]

15 minutes ago, Cade said:

The UN-registered, EU and USA guaranteed International Peace Treaty that we like to call the "Good Friday Agreement" prohibits a border in Ireland.

So that's not happening.

 

DUP say no to a border running down the Irish sea.

So the protocol is the only workable compromise.

 

But the DUP also say no to that.

 

So what exactly is it that these feckin dinosaurs want?

Cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick !!

[Don Dan]

We need a re join the EU party. I’d love to see the Labour Party adopt that I’d imagine there would be a big swing to them. 
Just point out the many failures and loses that have and are taking place. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Boy Daniel

[redjambo]

1 hour ago, Boy Daniel said:

We need a re join the EU party. I’d love to see the Labour Party adopt that I’d imagine there would be a big swing to them. 
Just point out the many failures and loses that have and are taking place. 

 

It would have to be a "Ask the EU if we can rejoin" party.

[Roxy Hearts]

4 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

They must be after a bit more dough to keep their backward flag shagging introverts in check. 

 

How about another billion 😂

🤣

[CJGJ]

I think many are now at the 'I told you so stage' where the problems were pointed out and are now coming to fruition despite the hope that this could all be avoided

 

The Northern Ireland issue is not fixed

The immigration/migrant issue is ongoing and getting worse

Travel and movement is becoming more difficult never mind the return of charges such as roaming we had hoped we had seen the last of

The lack of human resources in some areas such as care and of course even driving and a lack of trained staff is beginning to bite

A rise in costs (not all of which is Brexit related of course)

I suspect also from all of those trade deals we have negotiated there will be some hidden little gems that are not yet apparent in terms of standards applied ...and of course the deals we had with our ex partners will not be what they once were

We also have to live with the 'you are not in the EEC' or European Community so we may note but not take account of your views on various topics

The rights of workers are slowly but surely being eroded

 

 

There is nothing controversial in the above series of statements just an acknowledgment of the current position and like it or not we are out and not going back anytime soon

The cost of leaving is mounting up and we have to hope that the benefits to come will match or exceed those costs but at the moment those who voted to leave will find it difficult to  justify bar this 'we are now in charge of our own destiny nonsense' as if we are to ignore what we see happening and not question the impact

 

Oh and I'm sure we will also hear its all due to Covid on the list of excuses as well

[Unknown user]

2 hours ago, Boab said:

Cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick !!

 

Su bloody perb, love some cheddar and pineapple on a stick

[Ulysses]

5 hours ago, Cade said:

DUP threatening to walk out of the power sharing deal unless the Protocol is re-written.

 

See ya then, ya dicks.

 

 

 

 

[Costanza]

Who remembers fondly the 'Project Fear' posters who labelled us unpatriotic doubters as Remoaners?

Perhaps they'll post in 50 years to rub it in our faces.

Edited September 9, 2021 by Costanza

[jack D and coke]

6 hours ago, Beni said:

The UK about to fall out of Germany's top 10 trading partners for the first time in 70 years.

 

Just wait till those uppity Germans find out who holds all the cards.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58484454.amp

Apparently some German insurance companies reckon Britain might go bust. 
 

[Unknown user]

47 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Apparently some German insurance companies reckon Britain might go bust. 
 

Better together

[Cade]

We've not even come out of the grace period yet.

 

And what has the UK government done with the time given to it to get things prepared?

Spent all that time moaning about the deal they signed, demanding open-ended grace periods and trying to re-open negotiations!

 

This week they did manage to get an open ended grace period on chilled meats going to Northern Ireland.

Moaned that having deadlines was putting too much pressure on them to actually figure things out. (no, seriously, this was their rationale).

 

They've spent over 40 years trying to get out.

You'd think they'd have had some idea of what they planned to do when it happened.

[ri Alban]

Brexit has fecked me for 2 days this week. Hopefully get materials for Monday.

[SectionDJambo]

Remember lads, Rees Mogg has declared that we only have to wait 50 years to see the real benefits of Brexit. Just about the same time as the planet has got left before it burns, with Boris Johnson being the self proclaimed world leader of persuading countries, like Australia, to take global warming seriously. 

Will the UK ever have a decent politician leader again? Not from the current bunch, of all colours, it seems.

[Cade]

"While we will continue looking for solutions to minimise the effects of Brexit on your everyday lives, we will never be able to remove them entirely – such are the consequences of [a hard] Brexit and of the choices of the UK government.” 

“I will not mince my words.

The protocol is not the problem.

On the contrary, it is the only solution we have.

Failing to apply it will not make problems disappear, but simply take away the tools to solve them."

- European Commission vice-president Maroš Šefčovič 

[Don Dan]

Media beginning to wake up to the fact that Brexit is causing problems particularly the shortage of HGV drivers, yes Covid has had an impact but nowhere near the impact Brexit is having. 

[WorldChampions1902]

The Food & Drink Federation now saying food shortages are quote, “Permanent”.
 

Sunny uplands and rainbows abound.

[JackLadd]

Good to you know if you need a job just do an hgv course and boabs yir uncle. 

[ri Alban]

3 hours ago, JackLadd said:

Good to you know if you need a job just do an hgv course and boabs yir uncle. 

From £1200 to £4500 per course.

[HartleyLegend3]

 

[ri Alban]

3 hours ago, HartleyLegend3 said:

 

Is the PM of Australia not a climate change denier? And a fully fledged Lego snorter.

[HartleyLegend3]

Wow! Brexit makes us safer. 

 

[Enzo Chiefo]

Truly astounding hypocrisy from Barnier. Not unexpected though and probably another step on the path to  eventual EU implosion. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/barnier-eu-brexit-france-sovereignty-b1917655.html

[HartleyLegend3]

 

[Unknown user]

13 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Truly astounding hypocrisy froml Barnier. Not unexpected though and probably another step on the path to  eventual EU implosion. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/barnier-eu-brexit-france-sovereignty-b1917655.html

 

 

He was appointed to act on behalf of the EU, not playing out his personal beliefs.

 

If you want truly astounding hypocrisy in Brexit, look no further than your own sweet prince Boris.

 

From this;

"It was his (Churchill’s) idea to bring those countries together, to bind them together so indissolubly that they could never go to war again - and who can deny, today, that this idea has been a spectacular success? Together with Nato the European Community, now Union, has helped to deliver a period of peace and prosperity for its people as long as any since the days of the Antonine emperors."

 

To this;

"The argument we might broadly call the peace-in-Europe argument – that the EU is associated with 70 years of stability, and we need to stay in to prevent German tanks crossing the French border…is wholly bogus"

 

 

[Enzo Chiefo]

51 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

 

He was appointed to act on behalf of the EU, not playing out his personal beliefs.

 

If you want truly astounding hypocrisy in Brexit, look no further than your own sweet prince Boris.

 

From this;

"It was his (Churchill’s) idea to bring those countries together, to bind them together so indissolubly that they could never go to war again - and who can deny, today, that this idea has been a spectacular success? Together with Nato the European Community, now Union, has helped to deliver a period of peace and prosperity for its people as long as any since the days of the Antonine emperors."

 

To this;

"The argument we might broadly call the peace-in-Europe argument – that the EU is associated with 70 years of stability, and we need to stay in to prevent German tanks crossing the French border…is wholly bogus"

 

 

Immediate deflection to Boris. No surprise there then.

The article highlights the sheer hypocrisy of Barnier. Any post-Brexit problems are on him, particularly in relation to the NI border issue. 

 

 

[WorldChampions1902]

2 hours ago, Smithee said:

 

 

He was appointed to act on behalf of the EU, not playing out his personal beliefs.

 

If you want truly astounding hypocrisy in Brexit, look no further than your own sweet prince Boris.

 

From this;

"It was his (Churchill’s) idea to bring those countries together, to bind them together so indissolubly that they could never go to war again - and who can deny, today, that this idea has been a spectacular success? Together with Nato the European Community, now Union, has helped to deliver a period of peace and prosperity for its people as long as any since the days of the Antonine emperors."

 

To this;

"The argument we might broadly call the peace-in-Europe argument – that the EU is associated with 70 years of stability, and we need to stay in to prevent German tanks crossing the French border…is wholly bogus"

 

 

The whole cabinet is rammed with Brexit hypocrites. Where to start? Exhibit A, Javid……..

 

 

[The Mighty Thor]

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Any post-Brexit problems are on him, particularly in relation to the NI border issue. 

 

 

This should be good.

 

How do you come to that conclusion?

[ri Alban]

Surprise Surprise, Enzo is a leave voters. 

[Ulysses]

15 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Immediate deflection to Boris. No surprise there then.

The article highlights the sheer hypocrisy of Barnier. Any post-Brexit problems are on him, particularly in relation to the NI border issue. 

 

 

 

Ah would you go away and stop crying like a big baby?

 

The Protocol is not the problem, it is the best available solution to the problem.  The problem was caused by the UK deciding to leave.  We tried offering every alternative we could think of to avoid having checks between NI and GB.  Every thing we offered was refused - by the Conservatives and by the DUP (who want a hard border any way they can get it).  This was the best available solution left, which was accepted by your parliament.  You could have refused it, but you didn't. 

 

The little Englander approach to Brexit summed up in one GIF:

 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Ulysses

[Ulysses]

16 hours ago, Smithee said:

 

 

He was appointed to act on behalf of the EU, not playing out his personal beliefs.

 

If you want truly astounding hypocrisy in Brexit, look no further than your own sweet prince Boris.

 

From this;

"It was his (Churchill’s) idea to bring those countries together, to bind them together so indissolubly that they could never go to war again - and who can deny, today, that this idea has been a spectacular success? Together with Nato the European Community, now Union, has helped to deliver a period of peace and prosperity for its people as long as any since the days of the Antonine emperors."

 

To this;

"The argument we might broadly call the peace-in-Europe argument – that the EU is associated with 70 years of stability, and we need to stay in to prevent German tanks crossing the French border…is wholly bogus"

 

 

 

For top-drawer hypocrisy, how about Jeffrey Donaldson moaning about the "sea border", when 18 months ago he was looking for NI to capitalise on the advantages of being in two trade zones?

 

 

[Unknown user]

16 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Immediate deflection to Boris. No surprise there then.

The article highlights the sheer hypocrisy of Barnier. Any post-Brexit problems are on him, particularly in relation to the NI border issue. 

 

 

Em nope, immediate reply to your point, THEN point and laugh at Boris.

[Unknown user]

 

 

[Enzo Chiefo]

5 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

Ah would you go away and stop crying like a big baby?

 

The Protocol is not the problem, it is the best available solution to the problem.  The problem was caused by the UK deciding to leave.  We tried offering every alternative we could think of to avoid having checks between NI and GB.  Every thing we offered was refused - by the Conservatives and by the DUP (who want a hard border any way they can get it).  This was the best available solution left, which was accepted by your parliament.  You could have refused it, but you didn't. 

 

The little Englander approach to Brexit summed up in one GIF:

 

 

 

Having given careful thought and consideration to your post, I am happy to conclude that you are talking absolute bollox.

The EU were being as awkward as possible,  to prevent others from leaving, and were using NI as a political football. 

We should have told them, No, we will not be erecting a border between NI and Eire. DUP didn't want one, WM didn't want it and neither did Sinn Fein, obviously. 

That would have forced the EU either to have to be the ones to force a border, with all the political repercussions that would bring, or accept that their precious Single Market would not be undermined by having an alternative, trusted trader scheme,  for example, that did not involve border checks.

Most goods coming from outside EU are not checked anyway ffs and we were starting from a point of full alignment. 

The negotiations, and their handling of Covid vaccinations, proved what a corrupt, bureaucratic behemoth the EU is and most certainly vindicated our decision to leave.

 

[The Mighty Thor]

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Having given careful thought and consideration to your post, I am happy to conclude that you are talking absolute bollox.

The EU were being as awkward as possible,  to prevent others from leaving, and were using NI as a political football. 

We should have told them, No, we will not be erecting a border between NI and Eire. DUP didn't want one, WM didn't want it and neither did Sinn Fein, obviously. 

That would have forced the EU either to have to be the ones to force a border, with all the political repercussions that would bring, or accept that their precious Single Market would not be undermined by having an alternative, trusted trader scheme,  for example, that did not involve border checks.

Most goods coming from outside EU are not checked anyway ffs and we were starting from a point of full alignment. 

The negotiations, and their handling of Covid vaccinations, proved what a corrupt, bureaucratic behemoth the EU is and most certainly vindicated our decision to leave.

 

Its actually pretty difficult to cram so much wrong into a single post. 

 

You're channelling Daily Mail/Daily Express/GBeebies across a wide range of topics. 

 

Go on, you subscribed to UK Column too, didn't you?

[Beni]

6 hours ago, Smithee said:

 

 

 

Ignore the empty shelves folks, look over here, blue passports and pint stamps.

 

[Enzo Chiefo]

5 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Its actually pretty difficult to cram so much wrong into a single post. 

 

You're channelling Daily Mail/Daily Express/GBeebies across a wide range of topics. 

 

Go on, you subscribed to UK Column too, didn't you?

Great to see the reaction from lefties when others challenge their demonstrably naive views and their moral high stools start to rock.

Anyway, I'll let you get back to reading the Guardian.