Mikey1874 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Good luck everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Ive often been in big Qs at Spanish airports over past few years so cant see it being a huge change especially as Spanish are desperate to hold on to the massive British £ part of their economy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Compromise over Gibraltar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Most of that from Councillor Victoria is complete lies. We are retaining the European health card thingy, can visit any EU country for up to 90 days without the need for a Visa and how does she know the queues are long we haven't even left yet daft wee bitch. Not quite, there is a fundamental change (of course , that's been buried) - "A European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) gives you the right to access state-provided healthcare during a temporary stay in the EU." UK immigrants in Spain now face NEW health costs of roughly 150 Euros per month for health cover - which was previously covered under reciprocal agreements. The UK has more immigrants in the EU than any EU country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: Not quite, there is a fundamental change (of course , that's been buried) - "A European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) gives you the right to access state-provided healthcare during a temporary stay in the EU." UK immigrants in Spain now face NEW health costs of roughly 150 Euros per month for health cover - which was previously covered under reciprocal agreements. The UK has more immigrants in the EU than any EU country. I'm sure over the years I have read a fair few stories about Spanish Hospitals pretty much ignoring the EHIC and charging UK citizens for hospital treatment. Only Spain though for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Here's a little song for all our friends who voted remain and still refuse to accept that we'll be out in a few hours time. Without EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Here's a little song for all our friends who voted remain and still refuse to accept that we'll be out in a few hours time. Without EU. I don't think anyone is refusing to accept it. Just that it's a terrible idea. Edited December 31, 2020 by Norm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Here's a little song for all our friends who voted remain and still refuse to accept that we'll be out in a few hours time. Without EU. Let’s see what songs you’re singing in a couple of years time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: I'm sure over the years I have read a fair few stories about Spanish Hospitals pretty much ignoring the EHIC and charging UK citizens for hospital treatment. Only Spain though for some reason. So, if I follow your logic, because you “read a few stories” (no doubt in the Daily Mail) about a reluctance of Spanish Hospitals to recognise the EHIC card, am I correct in believing that you think it’s no great loss? If that is your point, then I would suggest that IF it was true, then it is a tiny, tiny number of cases and it can be reclaimed. I also note your point fails to acknowledge that in probably 99% of Spanish cases, it wasn’t a problem, and for 100% of claims in the other 26 EU countries, it wasn’t a problem. So IF your point was that EHIC is no great loss, hopefully you will now recognise that it is quite the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: I'm sure over the years I have read a fair few stories about Spanish Hospitals pretty much ignoring the EHIC and charging UK citizens for hospital treatment. Only Spain though for some reason. They do. The EHIC only covers certain health centres and hospitals in Spain. You have to ensure you are taken, or go to, a state run centre. Ex-pats are all registered with Doctors in Health Centres, if they start trying to charge them health insurance they would be cutting their own throats. The bureaucrats in Brussels and the constituent parts of the EU are entirely different entities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: They do. The EHIC only covers certain health centres and hospitals in Spain. You have to ensure you are taken, or go to, a state run centre. Ex-pats are all registered with Doctors in Health Centres, if they start trying to charge them health insurance they would be cutting their own throats. The bureaucrats in Brussels and the constituent parts of the EU are entirely different entities. People will need health insurance. Though it does seem there is a lot of uncertainty in this agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: People will need health insurance. Though it does seem there is a lot of uncertainty in this agreement. This in spades. But the “I knew what I voted for” crowd are nonetheless triumphalist. Premature, to put it mildly. Edited December 31, 2020 by WorldChampions1902 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: People will need health insurance. Though it does seem there is a lot of uncertainty in this agreement. Yes, hopefully they can sort something out that will be mutually beneficial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Probably not to the ‘taste’ of Daily Mail readers, but an interesting article in the FT about Brexit and Scotland’s Independence prospects. https://www.ft.com/content/8fa3b25e-f769-4885-a547-df5a2f8f2bf8?segmentid=acee4131-99c2-09d3-a635-873e61754ec6&fbclid=IwAR0ET9hFTNzj6X219uiI-VLmKKMA5K7-oV799X_TSxMBSl2u2JanqVyS9cw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seymour M Hersh Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said: So, if I follow your logic, because you “read a few stories” (no doubt in the Daily Mail) about a reluctance of Spanish Hospitals to recognise the EHIC card, am I correct in believing that you think it’s no great loss? If that is your point, then I would suggest that IF it was true, then it is a tiny, tiny number of cases and it can be reclaimed. I also note your point fails to acknowledge that in probably 99% of Spanish cases, it wasn’t a problem, and for 100% of claims in the other 26 EU countries, it wasn’t a problem. So IF your point was that EHIC is no great loss, hopefully you will now recognise that it is quite the opposite. I read the Telegraph but thanks. Enzo clarifies what I've read in his post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Norm said: I don't think anyone is refusing to accept it. Just that it's a terrible idea. Norm, it's not just an idea. As of 11pm this very evening it's a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, kila said: Let’s see what songs you’re singing in a couple of years time Maybe this (not that I've ever sung it before) but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 https://youtu.be/SS11b7SOI2Y Wur oot ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: I saw a bit of his speech yesterday about being a proud European. What a load of fecking shit He's a cantankerous old sod Not trying to make a party political point here........ but one of the most annoying things (to me anyway) about the whole campaign and subsequent argy-bargy has been the conflation between "being in the EU" and "being in Europe". Aye, you can always rely on politicians to spot an opportunity to mis-lead/exaggerate when they're trying to get you on their side. So just to be clear ..... unless the Vote Leave folk have managed to alter world geography, the British Isles will continue to be in Europe. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Freedom!!! I don't really believe it but surely someone had to say it. Or at least acknowledge it after 386 pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Freedom!!! I don't really believe it but surely someone had to say it. Or at least acknowledge it after 386 pages. I admire your optimism but the congenital liar hasn’t even agreed to a second referendum - yet. Just a matter of time though, I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said: I admire your optimism but the congenital liar hasn’t even agreed to a second referendum - yet. Just a matter of time though, I agree. Wait til Scotland play the brexit playbook - non-binding referendum/get to court/freedom. Happy days. Happy new year brother ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Freedom!!! I don't really believe it but surely someone had to say it. Or at least acknowledge it after 386 pages. Have you told the fish ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Happy Brexit day everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Like shooting fish in a barrel. But happy New Year to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Like shooting fish in a barrel. But happy New Year to all. Indeed. HNY FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Happy Brexit day and happy new year to all Jambos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Lone Striker said: the British Isles will continue to be in Europe. 👍 The what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Britain did very well out of being in the EU. Got a feeling it will do quite well out of being outside. That doesn't mean certain industries and communities won't suffer. Farming, fishing, the communities that received EU grants notably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, Australis said: Happy Brexit day and happy new year to all Jambos. Be great if we could all just accept it’s done and move on to more important stuff. Happy new year all jambos too🇱🇻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Spanish government might be a tad pissed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Ulysses said: The what now? Border in the Irish Sea, Gibraltar practically handed over to Spain, Brexits going well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said: I admire your optimism but the congenital liar hasn’t even agreed to a second referendum - yet. Just a matter of time though, I agree. I thought Sturgone wanted one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Happy New Year and welcome to independent Britain my fellow Brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) The SNP know that their policy of adopting Sterling but allowing the UK to determine monetary policy makes it impossible to ever rejoin the EU. The SNP know that people with , salaries, pensions and mortgages want to keep the pound. So they pretend none of it matters. Good Morning Britain and Happy New Year 😊 Edited January 1, 2021 by pablo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, pablo said: The SNP know that their policy of adopting Sterling but allowing the UK to determine monetary policy makes it impossible to ever rejoin the EU. The SNP know that people with , salaries, pensions and mortgages want to keep the pound. So they pretend none of it matters. Good Morning Britain and Happy New Year 😊 Aye but hope over fear, unleash the unicorn etc etc. Happy New Year my fellow Brit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: Wait til Scotland play the brexit playbook - non-binding referendum/get to court/freedom. Happy days. Happy new year brother ! Happy New Year to you! And a Happy New Year to all Jambos wherever you may be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, pablo said: The SNP know that their policy of adopting Sterling but allowing the UK to determine monetary policy makes it impossible to ever rejoin the EU. The SNP know that people with , salaries, pensions and mortgages want to keep the pound. So they pretend none of it matters. Here's to hoping 2021 can be a year where we all take a minute to really analyse the things we believe. Where we stop saying things that sound nice to us just because they're comforting—especially things we attribute to groups of “others” we don't like. Not only is it the right thing to do, it's better for our own souls when reality hits us. And it looks to hit a great many people very hard, as the numbers would sure seem to indicate, in the first five months especially. The opportunity for growth is immense. 'Mon the 60%. Happy New Year to all Scots, whether born or adopted, and all Jambos. Edited January 1, 2021 by Justin Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I see Sturgone has tweeted - Scotland will be back Europe - keep the lights on ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Ulysses said: Spanish government might be a tad pissed off. Really confusing all this for the SNP and Independence supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Here's to hoping 2021 can be a year where we all take a minute to really analyse the things we believe. Where we stop saying things that sound nice to us just because they're comforting—especially things we attribute to groups of “others” we don't like. Not only is it the right thing to do, it's better for our own souls when reality hits us. And it looks to hit a great many people very hard, as the numbers would sure seem to indicate, in the first five months especially. The opportunity for growth is immense. 'Mon the 60%. Happy New Year to all Scots, whether born or adopted, and all Jambos. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Guardian still fighting for the Remainer cause. Lead story "In crisis, without fanfare, UK finally ends the EU era"... "a departure that was notably low key, if marked by warnings of likely disruption to come"... "individuals and businesses face a dizzying new array of red tape" " Considerable government anxiety remains focussed on the situation in the Channel ports" and so on and on and on. How on earth did we manage about half our trade outside the EU, with vastly more "dizzying" red tape. And for individuals, travel and holiday outside the EU, again with far more dizzying red tape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 The Government has been doing really well to publish guidance really quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justin Z Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: FREE FROM THE SHACKLES... of... free trade, or something. Edited January 1, 2021 by Justin Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Who would have imagined that doing business is a bit complicated? Whether in the EU or out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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