Don Dan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Latest poll has 59% in UK nowc want to rejoin the EU. Most finally have seen the light. Sooner we have another referendum the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) bloody anti growth coalition remoaner traitors Edited October 11, 2022 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ulysses Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 13 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said: Not according to the US, who have a massive influence on the outcome, whether we like it or not! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-63201671 And even if a ‘resolution’ is eventually found, the Brexit-induced U.K. brain drain doesn’t evaporate, it merely slows. In fairness to, er, me, I'd say that link kinda supports rather than contradicts what I said. The US is giving its messaging about the need for the British government not to take unilateral action. Meanwhile, London, Brussels and Dublin are changing the mood music and setting up the parameters for a solution. London is finding that it shouldn't have been so hardline with the EU and with Ireland, and senior Brexiteers have even expressed regret for their part in that. Brussels is discovering that with the benefit of hindsight it didn't need the rules on GB to NI goods shipment to be quite as tough as they were written in the Protocol, so it is developing and refining a much-reduced set of checks. Dublin is suggesting that it can live with far fewer checks (true, they're less of a worry for us than for the Continent). All in all, the three parties seem to be finding pathways where before they weren't, and they've set themselves a deadline of October 28th to put a solution in place to avoid fresh elections in NI. I was intrigued by a couple of references by senior Irish political figures to the possibility of rethinking and "surprise", and I wonder if one of the things they'll do is not just simplify the Protocol, but repackage and retitle it. That way it also gives the DUP a way to find the new arrangements more acceptable - in turn paving the way for the Assembly to reconvene and appoint an Executive with a Sinn Féin First Minister. They might stop short of that renaming, but I really don't think anyone cares what title is given to the arrangements as long as they work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Imaman said: Latest poll has 59% in UK nowc want to rejoin the EU. Most finally have seen the light. Sooner we have another referendum the better You can have almost all the benefits of EU connections, and avoid some of the things most likely to cause offence, without having to rejoin. Norway and Switzerland have this sussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Cade said: Expected visitors: 66 million (no, really). Actual visitors: 240,000. Expected visitors - everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Cade said: Expected visitors: 66 million (no, really). Actual visitors: 240,000. Expected visitors - everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Worth a watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 12/10/2022 at 01:29, Ulysses said: You can have almost all the benefits of EU connections, and avoid some of the things most likely to cause offence, without having to rejoin. Norway and Switzerland have this sussed. What became apparent, in the years of negotiation after the referendum, is that the only Brexit that did really mean Brexit is the shit show we have. Any compromise or softening would have been the opportunity for Brexiteers to pin the blame of its near inevitable failure on that compromise. Sovereignty, for all its amorphous qualities, was the goal but just became worthless sand that trickled through fingers once grasped. Where once the UK within the EU could trade its sovereignty like a trump card in almost all matters of importance. Now sovereignty hangs useless, flaccid and wrinkled raised only by the viagra of a GB News rant. Got to be rejoin on as close to original terms as practicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Oops! https://twitter.com/shalchi_a/status/1580557547983220736?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Lest we forget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 In today's bears shit in woods headline Easiest trade deal in human history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: In today's bears shit in woods headline Easiest trade deal in human history. "...and trade from the EU to UK by 20% relative to the scenario in which Brexit had not occurred. ..." I know a guy who does logistics for Screwfix, he works at their biggest UK distribution centre. He's from the EU and has done logistics across Europe & Russia. He told me the cost of importing from EU went through the roof after brexit , MUCH longer timescales to get goods through customs paperwork , delays at ports , additional labour (driver) costs etc. This was about 4 years ago. He predicted there would be a slow down in trade because they couldn't pass on the additional costs to customers so had to be more selective about what type of goods they import now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) On 20/10/2022 at 09:52, periodictabledancer said: "...and trade from the EU to UK by 20% relative to the scenario in which Brexit had not occurred. ..." I know a guy who does logistics for Screwfix, he works at their biggest UK distribution centre. He's from the EU and has done logistics across Europe & Russia. He told me the cost of importing from EU went through the roof after brexit , MUCH longer timescales to get goods through customs paperwork , delays at ports , additional labour (driver) costs etc. This was about 4 years ago. He predicted there would be a slow down in trade because they couldn't pass on the additional costs to customers so had to be more selective about what type of goods they import now. And the EU is 8 times bigger. Small fry to them. Edited October 21, 2022 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: A great video, which should be compulsory viewing by some on here before they start posting their utter sh**e on this topic. It was predicted that Brexit would inflict a 4% reduction in our GDP, and that is what is now unfolding. A £100 Billion loss costing our Exchequer £40 Billion, as reinforced in the interviews. The exact amount that now has to be shaved off Public Services when Jeremy Hunt announces his fiscal statement on 31 October. Yet another colossal degradation of our NHS, Benefits Payments, Education, Policing et al. If you voted for Brexit, you voted to severely hobble those public services. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said: A great video, which should be compulsory viewing by some on here before they start posting their utter sh**e on this topic. It was predicted that Brexit would inflict a 4% reduction in our GDP, and that is what is now unfolding. A £100 Billion loss costing our Exchequer £40 Billion, as reinforced in the interviews. The exact amount that now has to be shaved off Public Services when Jeremy Hunt announces his fiscal statement on 31 October. Yet another colossal degradation of our NHS, Benefits Payments, Education, Policing et al. If you voted for Brexit, you voted to severely hobble those public services. Well done. The fuds who promoted Brexit think we’re living in the time of Henry Viii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 There is a growing movement to rejoin the EU I suspect that’s why there is a growing push to bring back Boris. The leavers are crapping themselves because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Imaman said: There is a growing movement to rejoin the EU I suspect that’s why there is a growing push to bring back Boris. The leavers are crapping themselves because of this. “They’re trying to steal our Brexit!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Some utter reprobate in Spaffer's constituency on Sky News earlier.... "They need to bring Boris back, he got us out of Brexit!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 That damn Tofu-eating, Guardian reading, anti-growth coalition propaganda coming out of the BBC on Brexit. Or maybe not. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-63426412 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 On 12/10/2022 at 01:29, Ulysses said: You can have almost all the benefits of EU connections, and avoid some of the things most likely to cause offence, without having to rejoin. Norway and Switzerland have this sussed. I just want to rejoin the EU. I was really proud of it, and my maroon passport, and being a euro Scot… Losing my citizenship against my will due to a bunch of bigots and ****tards is really annoying. the only people thicker appear to be in N Ireland who are moaning that they are still lashed to the EU - are they feckin blind?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: I just want to rejoin the EU. I was really proud of it, and my maroon passport, and being a euro Scot… Losing my citizenship against my will due to a bunch of bigots and ****tards is really annoying. the only people thicker appear to be in N Ireland who are moaning that they are still lashed to the EU - are they feckin blind?! I find myself agreeing with you more and more these days. Brexit was a ****ing stupid thing to do, but not as stupid as failing to recognise it or the need to do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, doctor jambo said: I just want to rejoin the EU. I was really proud of it, and my maroon passport, and being a euro Scot… Losing my citizenship against my will due to a bunch of bigots and ****tards is really annoying. the only people thicker appear to be in N Ireland who are moaning that they are still lashed to the EU - are they feckin blind?! You and me too, Doc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 6 hours ago, doctor jambo said: I just want to rejoin the EU. I was really proud of it, and my maroon passport, and being a euro Scot… Losing my citizenship against my will due to a bunch of bigots and ****tards is really annoying. the only people thicker appear to be in N Ireland who are moaning that they are still lashed to the EU - are they feckin blind?! Especially as NI’s economy has massively out-performed the rest of the U.K., due to their far more favourable EU trading arrangements. Whilst the UK’s economy is well on the way to a minus 4% hit to GDP (as was predicted), NI’s economy is going in the opposite direction. Talk about wanting to shoot yourself in the foot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Aye but you're assuming that the DUP are normal, rational people. They don't give a single shiny shite that NI is one of the better performing economic areas of the UK due to still being in the customs union. All they care about is the gobshite fiction that NI is no different than any other region of the UK. Here's a hint ya bams; it never has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 What would be so bad about joining the Euro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unknown user Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 What are we doing in this situation? It's obvious that brexit is a train wreck, a really stupid idea and it's been badly implemented. Why can't people, politicians, media, just acknowledge it might be better to rejoin, and explore our options? What a stupid country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Smithee said: What are we doing in this situation? It's obvious that brexit is a train wreck, a really stupid idea and it's been badly implemented. Why can't people, politicians, media, just acknowledge it might be better to rejoin, and explore our options? What a stupid country England only want Unions where they do the telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 29/10/2022 at 11:52, doctor jambo said: I just want to rejoin the EU. I was really proud of it, and my maroon passport, and being a euro Scot… Losing my citizenship against my will due to a bunch of bigots and ****tards is really annoying. the only people thicker appear to be in N Ireland who are moaning that they are still lashed to the EU - are they feckin blind?! The UK shouldn't (and IMO won't) rejoin the EU. However it is possible for the UK to regain most of the economic and social benefits of EU membership without rejoining, thereby having the capacity to operate reasonably independent trade policies - and making the NI Protocol redundant and unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) On 29/10/2022 at 18:17, WorldChampions1902 said: Especially as NI’s economy has massively out-performed the rest of the U.K., due to their far more favourable EU trading arrangements. Whilst the UK’s economy is well on the way to a minus 4% hit to GDP (as was predicted), NI’s economy is going in the opposite direction. Talk about wanting to shoot yourself in the foot! On 29/10/2022 at 18:46, Cade said: Aye but you're assuming that the DUP are normal, rational people. They don't give a single shiny shite that NI is one of the better performing economic areas of the UK due to still being in the customs union. All they care about is the gobshite fiction that NI is no different than any other region of the UK. Here's a hint ya bams; it never has been. The leader of the DUP has claimed that one of the NHS Trusts in NI had to delay cardiac procedures because of the Protocol. He claimed that the problem was because equipment couldn't be ordered from GB due to the Protocol and had to be brought in from Germany. The Trust issued a statement pointing out that the particular type of replacement equipment couldn't be found in time in GB or in Ireland, and was ordered from Germany. The Trust didn't delay procedures; it transferred the patients to another Trust while waiting for the replacement equipment. The DUP leader has repeated his claims despite the Trust's statement. Edited November 2, 2022 by Ulysses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Ulysses said: The UK shouldn't (and IMO won't) rejoin the EU. However it is possible for the UK to regain most of the economic and social benefits of EU membership without rejoining, thereby having the capacity to operate reasonably independent trade policies - and making the NI Protocol redundant and unnecessary. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Regrets, we’ve had a few. Some Tories regret getting rid of Boris Johnson after all the recent turmoil. His (eventual) successor Rishi Sunak is in full “je regette tout” mode, U-turning on everything from fracking to retained. EU law – admitting every manifesto pledge is now reversible. But one of the big political regrets of 2022 appears to be Brexit. Polling legend Sir John Curtice said Brexit is now less popular than at any point since 2016. A new survey shows support for re-joining the EU at 57 to 43 per cent. Curtice said it looks as though the big 2016 referendum would be as “unsuccessful” as the 1975 common market referendum in providing a permanent settlement to the Europe question. Meanwhile, Northern Ireland remains permanently unsettled. NI secretary Chris Heaton-Harris was accused of sowing “chaos” after he failed to set a date for a winter election, despite the deadline for the resumption of powersharing at Stormont passing. The DUP said more talks were “pointless”, as all the parties urged Heaton-Harris to hurry up and get it over with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ri Alban Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) The Scottish Government should apply for eu membership now. Get the ball rolling for post independence. Join the Euro anaw. I don't see the problem with the Euro. Edited November 5, 2022 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ulysses Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 03/11/2022 at 04:05, Led Tasso said: Why not? We don't suit you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Just now, Ulysses said: We don't suit you. The EU doesn't suit the UK, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 London loses top spot as Europe's prime stock exchange. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63623502 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: London loses top spot as Europe's prime stock exchange. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63623502 The wins just never stop! Add in Brexiteer Tory Minister Eustice revealing just how shit the trade deals with Aus & NZ are Add in this wee beauty too. Brexit just keeps on giving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: London loses top spot as Europe's prime stock exchange. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63623502 Utterly tragic but the so-called “scaremongers” predicted exactly that. And this is not a one-off. The London Stock Market will continue to lose ground. All of which means less revenue flowing into the U.K. Exchequer, at a time when we are witnessing eye-watering tax levels and cuts to public services. Well done Leavers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said: Utterly tragic but the so-called “scaremongers” predicted exactly that. And this is not a one-off. The London Stock Market will continue to lose ground. All of which means less revenue flowing into the U.K. Exchequer, at a time when we are witnessing eye-watering tax levels and cuts to public services. Well done Leavers. Brexit Broke Britain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Starmer thought rejoining was a barrier to the keys of number 10. He's gone all in Brexit, when it looks like the majority of England is now regretting it and would vote to return. And I think the EU would give England the same luxury they had before they left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 hours ago, ri Alban said: Starmer thought rejoining was a barrier to the keys of number 10. He's gone all in Brexit, when it looks like the majority of England is now regretting it and would vote to return. And I think the EU would give England the same luxury they had before they left. Not so sure. LBC had a caller last week from one of the smaller countries I can’t remember where again and he listed a silly amount of benefits these countries had hoovered up since Britain left. Theyd block a re-entry on the terms britain had. Get back in? Of course, but never on the same terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 hours ago, ri Alban said: Starmer thought rejoining was a barrier to the keys of number 10. He's gone all in Brexit, when it looks like the majority of England is now regretting it and would vote to return. And I think the EU would give England the same luxury they had before they left. There'll still be a lot of Leavers who are convinced it'll turn out great, whether by current ERG propaganda or embarrassment at believing the big red bus slogan. Where's that 350 million for the NHS then? All based on lies, xenophobia and personal gain for a few people with influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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