Boab Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 The way the seedings are moving to next year, you have to repeatedly be in it to improve your own co-efficient. The Scottish co-efficient only comes into play if your own co-efficient is below that. Its therefore folly to want to be out in order to build a squad capable of competing as each round gets you more points. this will then be spread over 10 years, so each year your out, you miss out on points which helps your seeding. That's not how I understand it. Think a bit of checking is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Anything we achieve we should do ourselves. These June and July games are red herring. The keys to have a squad that can compete in August. June and July games then take care of themselves The signings we've made so far this season look more likely to still be here than not next summer which should in theory give us a good core of a team that is better prepared for Europe if we make it. The problem is when we need to make a lot of signings in summer. Doing that and getting them bedded in before June Euro games is difficult as we've seen. It'll be interesting to see how Aberdeen do today as they've had a lot of turnover this summer. I think we're getting to the stage where we are building a squad that could conceivably be together for 2-3 years. That's what we need to aim for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Well, it's the turn of the sheep tonight to see if Scottish Football can improve it's standing in Europe. I'm aware of the inevitable " F them " type replies but personally I hope they do well. Titanium hat on ! agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 That's not how I understand it. Think a bit of checking is in order. Bert has a good page showing the 10 year points tally https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/trank10-2018.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Bert has a good page showing the 10 year points tally https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/trank10-2018.html As I say, let me check again but I was under the impression a club's coefficient was only used to determine seeding once you enter the competition. If the country's club coefficient doesn't rise, we'll still have what we have at present. Two teams in at round one and one team in at round two in Europa and one team in at Q round 2 in Champs. It would take all four teams a few seasons of doing well to change that. One team doing quite well while the others toil would take decades ! Quite happy to be proved wrong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Yay my favourite thread back. Be prepared for more of the same. Not quite sure why Hearts fans want Aberdeen to be financially stronger than Hearts but there you go Aye very strange, hope the sheep get pumped but thats me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulleted_jambo Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Is the Aberdeen game on TV? Searched online and getting nowhereI was wondering the same. Not that I care much who wins but would be good to see some competitive football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Only one true Scottish team left now so I will mentally back them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Is the Aberdeen game on TV? Searched online and getting nowhere Seems not Premier Sports who are the channel covering early stages are showing Cork City v Larnaca 7.45pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I was wondering the same. Not that I care much who wins but would be good to see some competitive football. All i can see is Cork City on Premier sports, nothing on sky sports or BT unless ive missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 All i can see is Cork City on Premier sports, nothing on sky sports or BT unless ive missed it. No that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Mon the Bosnians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 That's my point, Hearts are getting 0 points this season which will tally up for 10 years. St Johnstone and SevCo will get 0.25 points for their first round exits each year for the next 10 years You therefore want to be in it and get as far as you can Yes. But it really is this simple. If you have players capable of beating say Everton in Q4 then Trakia or Niederkorn in Q1 isn't a problem. Scotland beyond Celtic haven't had such a team capable of challenging an English side since 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Yes. But it really is this simple. If you have players capable of beating say Everton in Q4 then Trakia or Niederkorn in Q1 isn't a problem. Scotland beyond Celtic haven't had such a team capable of challenging an English side since 2012 Drawing an EPL entrant is about the worst case scenario. We hit it twice in recent years and it got us glamour matchups but it cost us a much better chance to progress. We need to field a team that can beat FC Midtjylland and Maccabi Tel Aviv year-in and year-out, qualify, then hope for a favorable draw. Yes that golden moment at Anfield and all that but realistically if we draw an EPL team it's a nice cash dump and no group stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Hope Aberdeen get pumped off this mob and i've seen the light disappears forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Lewis Logan Shinnie Considine O'Conner Reynolds McLean Rooney MacKay-Steven Tansey Christie Subs Rogers Stewart Maynard Wright McKenna Harvie Storey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Drawing an EPL entrant is about the worst case scenario. We hit it twice in recent years and it got us glamour matchups but it cost us a much better chance to progress. We need to field a team that can beat FC Midtjylland and Maccabi Tel Aviv year-in and year-out, qualify, then hope for a favorable draw. Yes that golden moment at Anfield and all that but realistically if we draw an EPL team it's a nice cash dump and no group stages. I totally agree. But that's the levels you have to get to. Or as close as possible and hope they don't perform. Referees i am almost certain will give benefit of doubt to the big telly countries to benefit sponsors so it really is a big ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I totally agree. But that's the levels you have to get to. Or as close as possible and hope they don't perform. Referees i am almost certain will give benefit of doubt to the big telly countries to benefit sponsors so it really is a big ask Yes, I agree, but even though our luck has been rotten (at least in terms of hopes of advancing -- I realize drawing Liverpool and Spurs are rewards in their own right), there's decent chances of drawing clubs from Denmark or Kazakstan or Israel which won't have that structural advantage over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Yes, I agree, but even though our luck has been rotten (at least in terms of hopes of advancing -- I realize drawing Liverpool and Spurs are rewards in their own right), there's decent chances of drawing clubs from Denmark or Kazakstan or Israel which won't have that structural advantage over us.Prepare for the worst or chance on a lucky draw. To be honest budget dictates the latter as i think you allude to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Hope Aberdeen get pumped off this mob and i've seen the light disappears forever. THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Won't lse sepp of ths either way, If Aberdeen get papped oot it will be funny, if they go through a tiny bit of respect is restored to our game. Wouldn't mind them getting through to the last qualifying round then getting papped out. Don't want anybody getting to the group stages before us. Hope this thread is relevent to Celtic in a couple of weeks as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Is this on the telly. Bored out my skull and will watch just about anything football wise tnite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Is this on the telly. Bored out my skull and will watch just about anything football wise tnite Star sixes is on ss1 just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Star sixes is on ss1 just now. Naw I meant the dandy dons match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Won't lse sepp of ths either way, If Aberdeen get papped oot it will be funny, if they go through a tiny bit of respect is restored to our game. Wouldn't mind them getting through to the last qualifying round then getting papped out. Don't want anybody getting to the group stages before us. Hope this thread is relevent to Celtic in a couple of weeks as well. We've both already been in the group stages. Us before the sheep actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Sheep ahead Christie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Won't lse sepp of ths either way, If Aberdeen get papped oot it will be funny, if they go through a tiny bit of respect is restored to our game. Wouldn't mind them getting through to the last qualifying round then getting papped out. Don't want anybody getting to the group stages before us. Hope this thread is relevent to Celtic in a couple of weeks as well. Eh.. Whilst I also want them papped out bit surprising you've forgotten we've already played in the group stages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Big chance blown to level it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM1874 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Sheep is on their tv channel If that's then on kodi or whatever it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 a good few minutes for Siroki Brijeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Sheep is on their tv channel If that's then on kodi or whatever it is This must be on a foreign channel likes. Anyone on SM found it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Rangers and St Johnstone conquerors losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Eh.. Whilst I also want them papped out bit surprising you've forgotten we've already played in the group stages ffs, going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 We've both already been in the group stages. Us before the sheep actually. god damn it, going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 ffs, going forward.Next then. Not first. Important on the tinternet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 sounds as though Christie playing well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthy2k Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 can't seem to find a stream anywhere, not even kodi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 can't seem to find a stream anywhere, not even kodi! Same ..seen some advertising it but screens blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 god damn it, going forward. Can only read what I see. bud ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 a good few minutes for Siroki Brijeg Glad you said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 close to a leveller again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 close to a leveller again You watching it mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 H/T 1-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 alicante jambo, on 13 Jul 2017 - 8:34 PM, said:You watching it mate? Nope just updates cant find stream anywhere which is surprising as there was a few sites last season streaming Redtv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 According to Willie Miller if you get to the Europa Cup group stages you're rubbing shoulders with the cream of European football. Er, naw Willie, that'll be the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 According to Willie Miller if you get to the Europa Cup group stages you're rubbing shoulders with the cream of European football. Er, naw Willie, that'll be the Champions League. He loses the place a bit when the Dons are playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 come on Siroki Brijeg so we don't have to suffer I'veseentheshite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Nope just updates cant find stream anywhere which is surprising as there was a few sites last season streaming Redtv Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Striker Krstanovic looking dangerous again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 yellow card for Slavki Bralic after a foul on McLean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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