Phil D. Corners Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sit him down. Tell him to focus on his football and he could find himself at bigger club then rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 We need to find a way now of rehabilitating him to the extent where he can actually contribute for us this season, otherwise we're just washing money down the drain. The old 'stick him in the reserves' idea does nothing for anybody, especially if he's going to get his waste-of-time move to the Huns next summer anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Craig will sort him out tbh. I reckon he will be given a chance to earn his wage and if he doesn't get his finger out he won't be seen again this season ala McSwegan and Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Nope If he shows the desire to play and Levein thinks he will do a job, then it's Levein choice. If that happens I hope we will get behind him and the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I dont agree and said at the time that the club were wrong. They alienated Jamie, which wasnt wise given that he had Rangers in his ear. The club offered Jamie the best deal it could afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Get Jamie fit, focussed and get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The club offered Jamie the best deal it could afford. Fair enough, they didnt have to go public and alienate him, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJamboR7 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 A committed Hearts fan supporting our best player? Shocking, eh? This is the second time my commitment to Hearts has been questioned. Just be up front and say what you mean, rather than hiding behind innuendo. Just to make it clear, I'm not questioning you as a hearts fan but I would love a response as to why you're defending a player so vigoursly when it's obvious he wants to play for Rangers? I would happily defend him if he had just had a poor 6 months, he's that type of player who gets on streak of hot and cold form but his dips in form, discipline and social media activity have aligned perfectly with the Rangers transfer saga. This isn't a coincidence. Why do you feel the need to defend Jamie Walker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 No point in having a sulking player then ask him to come off the bench when needed to do a job. It won't happen. Worse than a man short. We need to get him back in the game or banish him. The latter just won't happen and is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Same position last year as Paterson, look at how our form dipped once his goals and creativity was taken away. Sure if he comes in a plays terribly leave him out but our midfield is currently sub standard so we can't really afford to drop our best players. We need to finish as high up the table as possible and build on the nucleus we have now. Jamie will move on and Hearts will grow. But this season let's get back into Tynecastle and show Scotland and UK what a privilege in is to line up in maroon every week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Fair enough, they didnt have to go public and alienate him, though. To blame the club in this debacle is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sign a new deal or play with the 20's. His attitude has been shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sit him down. Tell him to focus on his football and he could find himself at bigger club then rangers. I don't think him and his utterly dense family and supporters on here can see beyond a bigger club than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sit him down. Tell him to focus on his football and he could find himself at bigger club then rangers. The biggest problem is, I honestly don't think he has any ambitions whatsoever to play for anyone except for Rangers. Means he gets the big salary hike without having to leave his pals, family and home behind. I say this without trying to sound like a stuck-up prick, but he doesn't come across as the most educated and you get the feeling he'll be more than happy staying in Scotland his whole career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 To blame the club in this debacle is ridiculous Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'd rather we focused on developing Moore than playing Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Tell him to get his head together, sign a 2 year deal (with a release clause if need be) and get himself back playing well again and pushing for international honours. If he does not want above tell him to rot in the u20s and he has to hope that Rangers still have the same manager Jan/summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Cool. Another Walker thread. For times when the current 154 page one just isnt enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'd rather we focused on developing Moore than playing Walker. But if that's the attitude we should have sold him and taken some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just to make it clear, I'm not questioning you as a hearts fan but I would love a response as to why you're defending a player so vigoursly when it's obvious he wants to play for Rangers? I would happily defend him if he had just had a poor 6 months, he's that type of player who gets on streak of hot and cold form but his dips in form, discipline and social media activity have aligned perfectly with the Rangers transfer saga. This isn't a coincidence. Why do you feel the need to defend Jamie Walker? Because I like Jamie. I have loved seeing him start off as a kid with us, his superb performances and how he has developed into one of the very best players in the SPL and must have been close to a Scotland call up last season. He is also one of the few players the fans naturally bond with. He had his head turned by Rangers/his agent at a time when our team was a shambles, we were signing disinterested, expensive players who werent trying a leg, were in complete free fall and didnt seem to have much hope. For someone like Jamie, who loves the club, that would have been very difficult to get through. The support (on here) turned on him immediately and I didnt think that was fair, particularly given that he kept a dignified silence throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 WE have saved Walker from himself, he would have been no diferent from any other player drawn in by the buglight that is that livevoluted cesspit, he would have made some money for a few years, gone backwards aas an entity, and ended up in the lower leagues as a bit part player as you wont make enough money there to last a life time, not even for the term of your short career. Any agent who is acting in the best interest of their client, and I am not sure there is that many? the majority are only interested in their own bank account. All agents should look at the overall state of the institution and how the experience of being there would progress their client? very few move on from Ibrox as better players, unless they bail out earlier? O'Halloran and Waghorn??? His agent should have been looking down south to a Norwich or a Forrest who will benefit the player his carreer and his bank balance. The fake Rangers are not Rangers anymore, they are not even a fake Rolex, they are a fake Timex. Players and Agents should all realise that by now? Celtic are now on another world and there is nowhere near the kind of money required for Ranger to compete with them now? Hearts and Hibs are progressing and the strong stable foundation we are building first will last long term, The Sheep and St J are also 2 clubs heading in the right direction? Faketimexco will have to spend a lot more in the coming years just to compete with us. Why would you want to be a part of that? Rangers should be renamed the Bootleg Leeds. Jamie, get your act together and go down south, by signing an extention you are more lilkly to attract interest from better teams and become a better player This is a very good post. The ball is in Jamie's court. I'm not sure if I can ever respect him again but if he screws the nut, gets a decent move down south or abroad and sets himself up for life I wouldn't bear a grudge. If he continues to sulk and / or kiss the hun boaby then I hope his career goes down that well trodden path from Ipox to the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sit him down. Tell him to focus on his football and he could find himself at bigger club then rangers. Exactly. Louis Moult is in the same position at Motherwell and he had no problem curling one into the top corner against us. That's what gets teams paying top dollar for you. Even if he has his heart set on joining the Huns, playing well and attracting the interest of other clubs will mean he can drive a harder bargain and they will have to pay him more when he does go. If he doesn't play well, he gets benched, same as any other player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 But if that's the attitude we should have sold him and taken some money. We should have, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If he plays with 100% effort then we'd be daft to pay his wage for him to be in the under 20's. If he signs for any other Scottish club on a pre-contract in January then he should be frozen out at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Let's see if CL still has the man management skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 To blame the club in this debacle is ridiculous Read my post from earlier this morning, when I couldnt have been much clearer: I blame Rangers and his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 We should have, yes. Is my personal view too. Nothing much to be gained by keeping him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Fair enough, they didnt have to go public and alienate him, though. They had to defend the professionalism of the club. Lies were being spread about the club, and a decision was taken to set the record straight Not sure that releasing the truth to the fans was such a bad thing Otherwise folks would have been under the impression that we were mistreating a fans favourite Which it transpires was not the case Quite the opposite in fact The reputation of HMFC was being impugned. They let fans know the facts- that is all they did If that made JW and co look like bandits, then that was not the fault of the club The reputation of the club helps attract players defending HMFC against pretty public attacks is important If any player allows lies to be spread about their employer, they should, rightly, face consequences- as they would in any walk of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think Jamie has behaved very unprofessionally. That said 'liked' on social media can be meaningless. On twitter I often 'like' articles of tweets with linked reports/opinion pieces I know I'll likely disagree with if I don't have time to read them at the time as these 'liked' tweets are easier to find later as they are separated into their own mini-folder.... I do this because I always like to review opposing views to me own That said I don't think that JW approaches life in this way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Fair enough, they didnt have to go public and alienate him, though. Jamie's posse were publicly lying about the club. The club put a lot of store in our reputation so decided to put the record straight. Quite rightly in my opinion. I suspect that the motivation was guided by the admirable principles that Ms Budge consistently demonstrates when the club's reputation is undermined and you regularly criticise her for doing it. Money can't buy that kind of class and it's why this regime will always have my support. But for me, it was just as important that we put down a marker to Jamie, the fandans who were posting shite about us, his agent, the weegia, the huns and any other shitehouse who picks a fight with us. The language is different from VR's regime and the regime is a lot more credible but the message is the same: Hearts won't be taking any shite from anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The biggest problem is, I honestly don't think he has any ambitions whatsoever to play for anyone except for Rangers. You are wrong, he wants to play somewhere hot, Spain preferably. Source - Jamie himself So many people on here are wrong about Jamie and what he wants, what his views are and how he feels about Hearts/Rangers, the amount of rubbish written about him is unbelievable. Journalists are the worst, they just make shit up and we believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Jamie's posse were publicly lying about the club. The club put a lot of store in our reputation so decided to put the record straight. Quite rightly in my opinion. I suspect that the motivation was guided by the admirable principles that Ms Budge consistently demonstrates when the club's reputation is undermined and you regularly criticise her for doing it. Money can't buy that kind of class and it's why this regime will always have my support. But for me, it was just as important that we put down a marker to Jamie, the fandans who were posting shite about us, his agent, the weegia, the huns and any other shitehouse who picks a fight with us. The language is different from VR's regime and the regime is a lot more credible but the message is the same: Hearts won't be taking any shite from anybody. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Arguably the Riccarton "3" did worse- but applied themselves on the pitch- so no problems with the fans. SPH asked to leave- the right way - and got his wish- no problem from the fans Even Elvis we were OK with until he decided to have a pop People are really defensive about the club Treat the club well, and the fans will be OK with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 you have to wonder at the concerted efforts to blacken Jamie walker on a hearts forum, I find it all rather disturbing. it's like our resident huns have been getting coached by the sevco publicity department and weegie media, threads everywhere decrying him, really weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Dufner Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 You are wrong, he wants to play somewhere hot, Spain preferably. Source - Jamie himself So many people on here are wrong about Jamie and what he wants, what his views are and how he feels about Hearts/Rangers, the amount of rubbish written about him is unbelievable. Journalists are the worst, they just make shit up and we believe it! What about the shit spouted by his family/representatives? He's treated Hearts disgracefully and I'm happy to not see him play for Hearts again. We as a club deserve players who have a far better attitude than Jamie Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 You are wrong, he wants to play somewhere hot, Spain preferably. Source - Jamie himself So many people on here are wrong about Jamie and what he wants, what his views are and how he feels about Hearts/Rangers, the amount of rubbish written about him is unbelievable. Journalists are the worst, they just make shit up and we believe it! Sounds like bullshit. Actions speak louder than words, and ALL his actions have pointed to doing everything within his power to move to Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If his form in training and on the pitch justifies picking him, do so. Same with every other player in the squad. Though they have been wise enough not to say so, or to try to engineer a move, every other player in the squad would rather be at Ibrox earning (or at least being paid) twice their current wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Mind when people were saying walker held all the aces? How's that working out for you now ya wee hun rat? GIRFUY Sent from my SM-G800F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz the postie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think were split into two camps here. Play him camp ,as he's a great player going forwards with great shooting,goal scoring skills and all the tricks a young player should hope to have,our former player of the year. Let him rot camp,he's let his club down,not had a great start to the season,allowed himself to be controlled by his agent,only wants a move to the Huns ,our rivals. I think CL has the man management skills to talk and persuade walker that the best move for him (and many ways djoum ) is to work /train and play their socks of to engineer a move to a club down south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sounds like bullshit. Actions speak louder than words, and ALL his actions have pointed to doing everything within his power to move to Rangers. That's how you see it. ylu are entitled not to believe what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Disagree Del, treat him according to how he applies himself in training and on the park like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The downside is we now have a player who is (might be) uninterested and wont try a leg, Sevco our rivals have weakened us and it cost nothing? but if we had accepted their joke of an offer it would have weakened us further and strenghtned them. An uninterest Walker is better than a totally focused Holt. In a years time when he will sign? we should weaken Rangers by finishing above them in the league, as should St J the Sheep and Hibs? we have time to get a better replacement, They end up with Walker who if he does not try a leg? end up with a player who is not only unfit, but a tad unprofessional. They are on a downward spiral, we are on an upward spiral! Walker might have balanced that out if he had gone now. No doubt we are slighty weaker by this murky business, but we will recover. Rangers wont improve and I still give their manager until Christmas, then they will go for another Proper Bear dud manager, but with no money to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Get Jamie fit, focussed and get the best out of him.The only person that can get Walker fit and focused is Walker himself and he has shown no sign of doing this for the last 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Jamie's posse were publicly lying about the club. The club put a lot of store in our reputation so decided to put the record straight. Quite rightly in my opinion. I suspect that the motivation was guided by the admirable principles that Ms Budge consistently demonstrates when the club's reputation is undermined and you regularly criticise her for doing it. Money can't buy that kind of class and it's why this regime will always have my support. But for me, it was just as important that we put down a marker to Jamie, the fandans who were posting shite about us, his agent, the weegia, the huns and any other shitehouse who picks a fight with us. The language is different from VR's regime and the regime is a lot more credible but the message is the same: Hearts won't be taking any shite from anybody. I thought we wanted to present ourselves as a family club, and one which specialises in supporting and developing young players. Issuing that statement went against that principle, imo, and wasnt required at the time. I dont really see the need for your dig at me about Ann: I praise and criticise her when I think it is due. But thats for a different thread, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolcross lad Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Fair enough, they didnt have to go public and alienate him, though. It was Levein at end of May when he also appeared to suggest that Cathro of all people was the person discussing Walkers future with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 you have to wonder at the concerted efforts to blacken Jamie walker on a hearts forum, I find it all rather disturbing. it's like our resident huns have been getting coached by the sevco publicity department and weegie media, threads everywhere decrying him, really weird. His family attacked HMFC in a very public way to make out he was being mistreated. Transpired that this was not true. Fans got upset at this Since then the behaviour of agent, and effort of player have been really rubbish Fans got upset at this too You wonder where the dad got his info from that he was raging about- you know - the contract stuff and pay offer. Could only really be from Jamie. Jamie now needs to fix this sharpish Another couple of sluggish half assed performances and I'd bin him He can either be a man about it- tell his family to shut it, and get on with his JOB Or I'd send him to the wilderness for the rest of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If his form in training and on the pitch justifies picking him, do so. Same with every other player in the squad. Though they have been wise enough not to say so, or to try to engineer a move, every other player in the squad would rather be at Ibrox earning (or at least being paid) twice their current wages. Agree with the first sentence. While every player would obviously want to earn more, I doubt they all want to do that at ibroke if they are serious about having a career as a professional footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Cool. Another Walker thread. For times when the current 154 page one just isnt enough. yip, "resistance is futile" it's all been discussed/suggested but lets just go over it all again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The only person that can get Walker fit and focused is Walker himself and he has shown no sign of doing this for the last 6 months. It will be a combined effort of Jamie and the management team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 On the u20s bench. Every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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