maroonnicky63 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 You dont have to defend every single player, you do know some havent made it at Hearts and deserve that to be highlighted whether they are 18 and Scottish or 38 and Ukranian. Every single thread you are on defending to the death why not have an actual opinion where you recognise some players havent made it. being a supporters does not give you the licence to come on here and rubbish players like you and your pals do. There are many players who in my opinion were not good enough last season Nicholson not being one because of the serious injury he ended up with shortly into the season, he started very well and looked sharp. He missed nearly 6 months of the season and to come back from an injury like that is not easy.I will always support the players on here because it is not there fault they are not good enough the management need to take the responsibility because it is them that bring in the players and coach them.Lets see who they bring in for next season as you will have a new breed to insult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Re the sell on fee. I don't follow MLS but I can't recall anyone ever moving to/from that league that involved a transfer fee, I just thought they picked up players out of contract, paid them big bucks and released them from contract when done. Is that not the case anymore? If so is the sell on fee clause not just a complete red herring? Apologies if already asked That was never the case, but given the media here's coverage of MLS you would be led to think it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlingshirejambo Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Will be interesting when the MLS publish their wages to see exactly what San is moving for My guess would be he's trying it for the lifestyle and a change of scenery as much as the cash Would be interesting to see him develop in another environment maybe even come back to us 2 years down the line!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Re the sell on fee. I don't follow MLS but I can't recall anyone ever moving to/from that league that involved a transfer fee, I just thought they picked up players out of contract, paid them big bucks and released them from contract when done. Is that not the case anymore? If so is the sell on fee clause not just a complete red herring? Apologies if already asked Transfer fees are often paid when players move from abroad to the MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 The new Darren Mackie. Apathetic about this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPWOAZ2-ezs Maybe Sam can look forward to a rousing reception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Memories Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Maybe Sam can look forward to a rousing reception. Boak Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Being a supporter entitles whoever, to comment on a player(s) in whatever manner they see fit. You agree with it. Or you don't. There's no supporter Magna Carta, that decrees all players must receive unequivocal support without question. Support the players, but hammer the management? Bit of a contradiction from you there... If they're great, it's a team effort. Everyone. If they're shite, it's a team effort. Everyone. Just quit with the "uberfan" ethos you proclaim, mate. It's boring. you just keep on slating the players mate and I will keep on supporting them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 He wants to move on and is adventurous enough not to go to Glasgow - good luck to him. It isn't his fault that FIFA are hopeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I would not blame him love Minneapolis And he will have a great lifestyle The people genuinely are nice Good for him rather than going and disappearing in England. He is a little bit composure away from being a top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hearts Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Bye Sam, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Being a supporter entitles whoever, to comment on a player(s) in whatever manner they see fit. You agree with it. Or you don't. There's no supporter Magna Carta, that decrees all players must receive unequivocal support without question. Support the players, but hammer the management? Bit of a contradiction from you there... If they're great, it's a team effort. Everyone. If they're shite, it's a team effort. Everyone. Just quit with the "uberfan" ethos you proclaim, mate. It's boring. Its mental. Anyone, anywhere, who kicked a ball should've got a pro contract because it's doesn't matter if you're sheight, you'll get support and people will kid on you're great, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 you just keep on slating the players mate and I will keep on supporting them Are you a real person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Fair play. Many of us would love that kind of opportunity at that age. It's looks like the move of a player who isn't too bothered about pushing on in his career though. Mind you, malony went to the mls and got a good club back here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Decent (second) offer from us but he thinks CL is a dick. FACT Probably because he demands that the players don't act like spoilt wee pricks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Would anyone say that Sam was ever MOTM in a game for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Would anyone say that Sam was ever MOTM in a game for us? Patrick away. He's heading over the week after next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Would anyone say that Sam was ever MOTM in a game for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Of The Cat Cafe Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 One of my favourite goals from the past few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just joe Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 ya beauty . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 It wasn't that long ago that it looked like Sam and Jamie were pushing each other and Sam might end up being the better of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Would anyone say that Sam was ever MOTM in a game for us? Oh my god are you serious , I take it you don't go to the games then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Its mental. Anyone, anywhere, who kicked a ball should've got a pro contract because it's doesn't matter if you're sheight, you'll get support and people will kid on you're great, are you simple, did you read it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Henry Furst Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Would anyone say that Sam was ever MOTM in a game for us? Absolutely. Complete ignorance to suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Would anyone say that Sam was ever MOTM in a game for us?Dumbarton 1 Hearts 5 Jan 2015 Highlights available on Hambone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 are you simple, did you read it ?simple as **** mate. Thick as sheight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Would anyone say that Sam was ever MOTM in a game for us? I remember he ran the sheep ragged in the cup game at Tynecastle. Can't remember if he got MOTM in that game though as it might have been Djoum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Absolutely. Complete ignorance to suggest otherwise. Okay someone below your post put up one game (in the championship) but can you supply other games where he has been MoM? Ir is it complete ignorance to even ask the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Henry Furst Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Okay someone below your post put up one game (in the championship) but can you supply other games where he has been MoM? Ir is it complete ignorance to even ask the question? Other than the games already mentioned he started the 2015/16 season really well. I recall a game v Partick Thistle where Sam was outstanding. We won comfortably and I'm sure he scored. He was also very good and MoM when we played Kilmarnock away in the League cup during the same period. There will be others also. I'm a member of a supporters bus and I can recall that he was announced as MOM a few times. So yes, to suggest he's never been involved in a game where he's been man of the match is completely ignorant, IMO. Fwiw, his forms dipped considerably and I don't think we'll miss him. I've already said he hasn't kicked on as we'd hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 You'll get his support, mate. Not your fault that the Mods, & Admin on here, haven't taught you anything to help you become less thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 He wants to move on and is adventurous enough not to go to Glasgow - good luck to him. It isn't his fault that FIFA are hopeless The only team in Glasgow he'd get a game for is probably Queens Park tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Not talking about if he ever contributed - I meant MOTM as in the standard definition. And it was a question rather than a point. The suggestion - which I accept - was that it wasn't very often. So in 4 years of first team games how many times do we think he was MOTM? Not a point scoring exercise - a genuine question. IMO scoring a raker doesn't make you MOTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Other than the games already mentioned he started the 2015/16 season really well. I recall a game v Partick Thistle where Sam was outstanding. We won comfortably and I'm sure he scored. He was also very good and MoM when we played Kilmarnock away in the League cup during the same period. There will be others also. I'm a member of a supporters bus and I can recall that he was announced as MOM a few times. So yes, to suggest he's never been involved in a game where he's been man of the match is completely ignorant, IMO. Fwiw, his forms dipped considerably and I don't think we'll miss him. I've already said he hasn't kicked on as we'd hoped. That wasn't the suggestion though. He's had a few cracking games. I just don't think he has been our most influential player very often over 4 years. Folk have been moaning about him not contributing enough since we came back up - that's two years for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Henry Furst Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 That wasn't the suggestion though. He's had a few cracking games. I just don't think he has been our most influential player very often over 4 years. Folk have been moaning about him not contributing enough since we came back up - that's two years for starters. On here? The same folk that moaned about, Neilson, Paterson, Sow, etc etc. No offence intended here but If I were you I'd perhaps stop basing my opinions on what you read online and try and make it to the games. Then you'd have seen with your own eyes Sam Nicholson producing man of the match performances and you wouldn't need to ask silly questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 That wasn't the suggestion though. He's had a few cracking games. I just don't think he has been our most influential player very often over 4 years. Folk have been moaning about him not contributing enough since we came back up - that's two years for starters. Sums up a typical supporter. With your logic Robbo would have been shit most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Sums up a typical supporter. With your logic Robbo would have been shit most games. Sam is comparable with robbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Sam is comparable with robbo? I'm highlighting using MotM as a yardstick which is ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I'm highlighting using MotM as a yardstick which is ridiculous! I'm just trying to explore how influential he was, how much we will miss him and what sort of standard of player would improve on him Stewart would be an improvement. Couillaby? (Sp?) O'halloran? From within: Moore? Henderson? Genuine attempt to explore how easy he will be to replace. As he was going nowhere I think relatively easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Juanjo Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I'm just trying to explore how influential he was, how much we will miss him and what sort of standard of player would improve on him Stewart would be an improvement. Couillaby? (Sp?) O'halloran? From within: Moore? Henderson? Genuine attempt to explore how easy he will be to replace. As he was going nowhere I think relatively easily. I take your point. Technically good, just not all that effective. Always thought he would go the further of him and Walker once his decision making improved. That said, King IMO (and probably statistically) is more effective than Sam in terms of goals and, more notably, assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Hasn't improved in about 3 years. Pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I'm just trying to explore how influential he was, how much we will miss him and what sort of standard of player would improve on him Stewart would be an improvement. Couillaby? (Sp?) O'halloran? From within: Moore? Henderson? Genuine attempt to explore how easy he will be to replace. As he was going nowhere I think relatively easily. Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick and if I did then hands up. Now you've explained I find it difficult to disagree with you [emoji50] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Louis Valois Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 What's the deal with Lewis Moore, is he ready for the step up? Looked decent in last game of last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borders Jambo Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Good luck to him but to my mind no great loss. Seemed to lose his way in the last few years and essentially became a passenger most times I saw him in the team over the last couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick and if I did then hands up. Now you've explained I find it difficult to disagree with you [emoji50] No worries It's easy to mistake me for somebody that's always just a noisy twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 No worries It's easy to mistake me for somebody that's always just a noisy twat. There are far too many responses to that one but I'll refrain for once [emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Not talking about if he ever contributed - I meant MOTM as in the standard definition. And it was a question rather than a point. The suggestion - which I accept - was that it wasn't very often. So in 4 years of first team games how many times do we think he was MOTM? Not a point scoring exercise - a genuine question. IMO scoring a raker doesn't make you MOTM. Man of the match decided by who The Daily Mail? Home sponsors but which one? What about away games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 There are far too many responses to that one but I'll refrain for once [emoji23]I leave the set-ups on purpose buddy. I don't mind The other question I have folk moaning about the offer being made being not good enough. What is Sam worth as a, what, 1 in 5 game impact player at a club like ours with a tight budget? ?1250- 1500 a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Man of the match decided by who The Daily Mail? Home sponsors but which one? What about away games? You're right - no way to answer completely accurately On a proportional representation basis....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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