***Potential signings/Transfer rumours Thread***

[JamboAl]

This goes way back to the start of last season though.

Then again in January we had another opportunity to sign a keeper. The majority of this window has passed and still it hasn't been addressed. That's almost 3 transfer Windows!!

Ok fair enough, we were unlucky not to get Gilks in the first of the 3 and I totally appreciate it is difficult to find a good keeper on our budget, they are few and far between.

However we 'cannot' go into the rest of the season with Hamilton in goals and it is unlikely that the Jan 2018 window is the time or place where we will be able to bring one in given the time constraints, and the fact that clubs get held hostage in terms of money.

Why are you moaning then?

[Debut 4]

this is getting on my nerves, the people who make the football decisions are not up to the job, sacking the head coach should have been done at the end of last season, unless they sent him on a course on how to motivate players and could get their money back, he was never going to make it, a keeper should have been signed long before now, why the actual F did they let it get to this stage without a first pick one, midfield is a joke, we have needed a box to box midfielder for two years, why have we not got one by now? did they think they could turn Matin into one? they are giving contracts to players my gran could run past and some say give Levein a chance, how many ****-ups is enough to get your arse kicked?

You'll not get many rushing to agree mate.

[DC_92]

We signed Djoum, Rossi, and Pallardo after the windows closed. All three were among our best signings in their respective years.

 

Rossi was signed in July and played in the opening game.

[Cruyff Turn]

Why are you moaning then?

I'm not.

 

I'm just commenting on the fact we've had a ****ing dugshite keeper for the last season and it looks as if we are going to have him for another.

[JamboAl]

I'm not.

 

I'm just commenting on the fact we've had a ******* dugshite keeper for the last season and it looks as if we are going to have him for another.

I know you are but that is despite your acknowledgment below 

 

I totally appreciate it is difficult to find a good keeper on our budget, they are few and far between.

[Cruyff Turn]

I know you are but that is despite your acknowledgment below

 

I totally appreciate it is difficult to find a good keeper on our budget, they are few and far between.

An acknowledgement perhaps that money is tight 'at this moment' given the new stand, etc... But That's no excuse really is it? 3 transfer Windows down the road.

 

We probably spunked away a million quid plus from January-June on the pile of dung we signed in the Jan window.

 

I don't know why you're even trying to make an issue of this, unless you somehow think we don't need a goalkeeper? Surely no.

[Martin]

We badly need players in but we can't do that and risk landing the new boss with players he doesnt fancy, we already have enough of them.

 

We don't know if Randall is any good or not, but we let Cathro go ahead and sign him when he was on the brink of getting sacked, who knows if the new boss will rate him or not, otherwise it's just more wasted wages. It's not ideal but we have to be patient as I am sick of us just bringing in any old player for the sake of it who isn't improving our first 11 (apart from Berra and Lafferty).

 

Despite that, with proper organisation, motivation and a willingness to attack, we still have more than enough to take care of Kilmarnock on Saturday.

[Bazzas right boot]

These signings better be like dominoes once the new gaffer is aboard.

 

The Klaxon could be going full pelt after a quite few weeks.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

For a short period of time.

 

In the 2015 season who was a better signing than Pallardo? Sow obviously and Buaben come to mind but I can't think of others that I'd put above him. Zeefuik maybe but he was January.

 

Rossi was signed in July and played in the opening game.

 

Cheers, my mistake.

[OTT]

These signings better be like dominoes once the new gaffer is aboard.

 

The Klaxon could be going full pelt after a quite few weeks.

 

This. 

 

Bringing players like Berra and Lafferty aboard will be pointless if we don't give the defence a good keeper and the forwards a good midfield. 

[JamboAl]

An acknowledgement perhaps that money is tight 'at this moment' given the new stand, etc... But That's no excuse really is it? 3 transfer Windows down the road.

 

We probably spunked away a million quid plus from January-June on the pile of dung we signed in the Jan window.

 

I don't know why you're even trying to make an issue of this, unless you somehow think we don't need a goalkeeper? Surely no.

I'm making an issue because you seem to be contradicting yourself.  If they are few and far between and hard to find why are you criticising.  That is acknowledging the difficulties.  You now say we PROBABLY spunked away more than ?1m.  You simply appear to be grasping at straws out of frustration and criticising just for the sake of it.

[Cruyff Turn]

I'm making an issue because you seem to be contradicting yourself. If they are few and far between and hard to find why are you criticising. That is acknowledging the difficulties. You now say we PROBABLY spunked away more than ?1m. You simply appear to be grasping at straws out of frustration and criticising just for the sake of it.

You're trying to create an argument out of nothing really.

 

In fact, it is quite apparent we have needed a goalkeeper since the start of last season. This became blatantly obvious in January and since the end of the season it became 'critical'.

 

I don't understand why you are becoming so overly defensive about something that every punter and their dug can see. Maybe you can't, I don't know, you've failed to answer my question.

 

Yes, it is difficult to find a top keeper. It is generally a specialist position, there are fewer goalkeepers in the world that players of other positions, but it isn't impossible, and when you consider every Goalkeeper in this league is probably a better option than ours then it certainly defies the odds as to why 'we' can't seem to find one within almost three transfer Windows.

 

That's an acknowledgement of the position, it's not an acknowledgement that it is somehow outside of the realms of possibility to find a Goalkeeper that actually stops the ball going into the net. Given Craig Leveins, Ian Cathro, Austin MacPhees etc... Connections within football, to other clubs, agents, coaches etc it should be relatively easy to find an improvement, every other clubs manages it.

 

Its hardly clutching at straws suggesting we 'probably' spunked 1million quid on fees and wages on our January signings, more of a fact. So this shite that there was no money is just that, shite. There maybe isn't very much in the pot now that it has been wasted on useless players and staff who failed to meet budget requirements for this season.

 

There is absolutely no excuses as to why we have failed to sign a Goalkeeper in 3 Windows to this point. Furthermore it is even more ridiculous that the Goalkeeper we did sign, is so bad that he is no.2 to Hamilton.

 

What excuse is there?

 

It's a terrible state of affairs.

 

For what it is worth, I acknowledge that Craig Levein as DoF has probably done his up most to get the players Neilson and Cathro wanted but given the disaster of last season, the poor decision to hire Cathro then not fire him until a week before the start of the season, he has to bare the brunt of responsibility to the shape of the current squad.

 

It's a complete mess.

[BangkokHearts]

You're trying to create an argument out of nothing really.

 

In fact, it is quite apparent we have needed a goalkeeper since the start of last season. This became blatantly obvious in January and since the end of the season it became 'critical'.

 

I don't understand why you are becoming so overly defensive about something that every punter and their dug can see. Maybe you can't, I don't know, you've failed to answer my question.

 

Yes, it is difficult to find a top keeper. It is generally a specialist position, there are fewer goalkeepers in the world that players of other positions, but it isn't impossible, and when you consider every Goalkeeper in this league is probably a better option than ours then it certainly defies the odds as to why 'we' can't seem to find one within almost three transfer Windows.

 

That's an acknowledgement of the position, it's not an acknowledgement that it is somehow outside of the realms of possibility to find a Goalkeeper that actually stops the ball going into the net. Given Craig Leveins, Ian Cathro, Austin MacPhees etc... Connections within football, to other clubs, agents, coaches etc it should be relatively easy to find an improvement, every other clubs manages it.

 

Its hardly clutching at straws suggesting we 'probably' spunked 1million quid on fees and wages on our January signings, more of a fact. So this shite that there was no money is just that, shite. There maybe isn't very much in the pot now that it has been wasted on useless players and staff who failed to meet budget requirements for this season.

 

There is absolutely no excuses as to why we have failed to sign a Goalkeeper in 3 Windows to this point. Furthermore it is even more ridiculous that the Goalkeeper we did sign, is so bad that he is no.2 to Hamilton.

 

What excuse is there?

 

It's a terrible state of affairs.

 

For what it is worth, I acknowledge that Craig Levein as DoF has probably done his up most to get the players Neilson and Cathro wanted but given the disaster of last season, the poor decision to hire Cathro then not fire him until a week before the start of the season, he has to bare the brunt of responsibility to the shape of the current squad.

 

It's a complete mess.

 

Cathro should have been launched end of last season at the very latest.

 

Keeping him on was monumental poor judgement and has resulted in us being pumped out the diddy cup by part-timers and this season being a write off.

 

Damage limitation this season with a new manager but we are indeed in a complete mess. 

[Clark Griswold]

I get we are in a mess right now but writing off a season after 1 league game away to Celtic, the team who were unbeaten last season? Some folk need to get a grip.

 

 

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[YMWrules]

I get we are in a mess right now but writing off a season after 1 league game away to Celtic, the team who were unbeaten last season? Some folk need to get a grip.

 

 

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It's not that game that has people concerned it's the total mess the club is in,Levein and Budge will get absoloutly crucified at the next AGM as they have oversaw the most shambolic start to a season in my 30 years watching Hearts,even in the darkest Romamov days we had some players with quality and some hope,I see nothing from our heads (football department) to indicate they are capable of putting a team together that can rival Aberdeen or Rangers or even the fecking hobos at this minute in time.We are a disaster of a football club who even the best manager in the world will struggle with.Hamilton,Buaben,Hughes started last week I reckon they wouldn't get a game in any other SPL team,that's a lot of quality to find for our 1st 11 never mind building a squad.

[jack D and coke]

I get we are in a mess right now but writing off a season after 1 league game away to Celtic, the team who were unbeaten last season? Some folk need to get a grip.

 

 

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It's not though is it. We've been utterly stinking the place out since almost the day Cathy too over. And early signs of us struggling to beat Elgin and East Fife and losing to Peterhead and toiling against a Dunfermline side who just had a strapping from Rangers. The team is in disarray imo and needs sorted quickly of we're staring at a long season ahead.

We are indeed in a real mess.

[kingantti1874]

I get we are in a mess right now but writing off a season after 1 league game away to Celtic, the team who were unbeaten last season? Some folk need to get a grip.

 

 

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Have you forgotten we lost to Peterhead, scraped an away win at Elgin city and got knocked out by Dunfermline..

 

That said we will improve by getting rid of that confused clown of a manager

[Clark Griswold]

Nope not forgotten that. I just think it's daft to write off a whole season before it's really begun (in the league). Hopefully whoever we get in, both players and manager wise, will turn it around. We have to have faith and optimism otherwise what's the point? The fact they got rid of Cathro is a good sign, albeit it should have been done after the lap of dishonour last season, but it's done none the less. Can you imagine the state of here if he was indeed given the 4 league games!

 

There's no doubting this is the club's biggest test and hurdle since admin, and I believe we will come out the other side.

 

 

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[wavydavy]

You're trying to create an argument out of nothing really.

 

In fact, it is quite apparent we have needed a goalkeeper since the start of last season. This became blatantly obvious in January and since the end of the season it became 'critical'.

 

I don't understand why you are becoming so overly defensive about something that every punter and their dug can see. Maybe you can't, I don't know, you've failed to answer my question.

 

Yes, it is difficult to find a top keeper. It is generally a specialist position, there are fewer goalkeepers in the world that players of other positions, but it isn't impossible, and when you consider every Goalkeeper in this league is probably a better option than ours then it certainly defies the odds as to why 'we' can't seem to find one within almost three transfer Windows.

 

That's an acknowledgement of the position, it's not an acknowledgement that it is somehow outside of the realms of possibility to find a Goalkeeper that actually stops the ball going into the net. Given Craig Leveins, Ian Cathro, Austin MacPhees etc... Connections within football, to other clubs, agents, coaches etc it should be relatively easy to find an improvement, every other clubs manages it.

 

Its hardly clutching at straws suggesting we 'probably' spunked 1million quid on fees and wages on our January signings, more of a fact. So this shite that there was no money is just that, shite. There maybe isn't very much in the pot now that it has been wasted on useless players and staff who failed to meet budget requirements for this season.

 

There is absolutely no excuses as to why we have failed to sign a Goalkeeper in 3 Windows to this point. Furthermore it is even more ridiculous that the Goalkeeper we did sign, is so bad that he is no.2 to Hamilton.

 

What excuse is there?

 

It's a terrible state of affairs.

 

For what it is worth, I acknowledge that Craig Levein as DoF has probably done his up most to get the players Neilson and Cathro wanted but given the disaster of last season, the poor decision to hire Cathro then not fire him until a week before the start of the season, he has to bare the brunt of responsibility to the shape of the current squad.

 

It's a complete mess.

Lets be clear on your last paragraph. Levein did not sack Cathro and had it been left up to him Cathro would still be Coach. It was the Board who sacked him or in other words AB

[soonbe110]

Lets be clear on your last paragraph. Levein did not sack Cathro and had it been left up to him Cathro would still be Coach. It was the Board who sacked him or in other words AB

We don't know that for sure. Levein isn't stupid. He may well have had Cathro on last chance.

[Spencer]

Lets be clear on your last paragraph. Levein did not sack Cathro and had it been left up to him Cathro would still be Coach. It was the Board who sacked him or in other words AB

This is quite correct. Levein would've persisted with IC for much longer given the chance. Things would've got much worse yet it would only have seen CL become more dogmatic

 

I'm beginning to wonder if we will need to get through to full fan ownership before we start to see proper progress. That will be unfortunate and a wasted opportunity imo

 

That may take some additional time to crystallise whilst Ann continues to bask in her new found limelight and allows costs for the new stand to escalate further

[brux]

I'm beginning to wonder if we will need to get through to full fan ownership before we start to see proper progress.

Can you expand on this, I'm interested to hear what you think full fan ownership will give us that is different?

[Unknown user]

Jesus your post's are getting more ridiculous.

 

That's a statement straight from the green ginger book of bull shite.

 

You should keep your slavering to a minimum, at least until we appoint someone, then you can go again and continue to slag of the most important people at our club.

Very, very suss

[alicante jambo]

Im away to wrap myself in cling film then lock myself in a dark cupboard for a fortnight.Spencer has exceeded where nobody else ever will.

[alicante jambo]

Why is this Spencer nutcase allowed to post on JKB. Mods get him launched NOW. Anyway there might be a lawyer on his tail after that recent slanderous post.

Really is incredible what he wrote no words to describe it.

[alicante jambo]

Well that goes down as one of the daftest posts I have seen on here.

One???It wont be touched by any other post ever.

[gorgieheart]

Can you expand on this, I'm interested to hear what you think full fan ownership will give us that is different?

 

Lets hope it wont give us utter morons like Spencer being able to make any kind of decision that affects any part of the day to day running of the club !

 

Although there may be room for him in the "cleaning the bowl of the gents toilets with your tongue"  division  ??

[Unknown user]

Well that goes down as one of the daftest posts I have seen on here.

Daft? You're one seriously kind individual!

 

The correct answer is Snidey as ****.

[Deevers]

One???It wont be touched by any other post ever.

yep. I have seen some real crackers on here over the years - that one however is simply dreadful. Would not be surprised if it was deemed libellous.

[alicante jambo]

yep. I have seen some real crackers on here over the years - that one however is simply dreadful. Would not be surprised if it was deemed libellous.

Its terrible and needs deleted quick.

[Unknown user]

Its terrible and needs deleted quick.

I disagree, I think it should be left so everyone can see the mask slipping

[davieholt]

and the thread will be closed! What a tosspot!

[Notts1874]

I disagree, I think it should be left so everyone can see the mask slipping

Yep it needs to be left up. And highlighted as much as possible.

[millano77]

Yep it needs to be left up. And highlighted as much as possible.

Can actually see the evening hobo headline now.

Guy is a complete muppet and I'm sure there is a spare bed in they royal ed for him

[JamboJoker98]

I don't understand how such obvious trolling is allowed on here!

No doubt someone else will post in a few days that 'theyve heard from a source of something going on, but can't reveal anymore to protect the source, who they can't name '.... this site is rife with it

[Notts1874]

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[Robbo51]

Lets get this thread back on track. It looks like Sow has left his club...a return??

Him and lafferty up front would be majestic

 

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[Zico]

This is quite correct. Levein would've persisted with IC for much longer given the chance. Things would've got much worse yet it would only have seen CL become more dogmatic

Quite incorrect. CL knew Cathro needed a good start to the season to save his job.

[Spencer]

No please tell us more.

Posts are evidently being deleted so we'll just consign it to history and move on fella

 

Hope that's good with you

[Spencer]

Quite incorrect. CL knew Cathro needed a good start to the season to save his job.

I appreciate he stated that in his bizarre media conference. I'm not convinced that he wouldn't have stuck with him for a good bit longer given the chance

 

Only my opinion of course. Thankfully he's away

[Zico]

I appreciate he stated that in his bizarre media conference. I'm not convinced that he wouldn't have stuck with him for a good bit longer given the chance

 

Only my opinion of course. Thankfully he's away

From the horse's mouth, Spencer.

[Spencer]

From the horse's mouth, Spencer.

Fair enough

 

It should never have happened in the first place far less continued to the eve of the new season

 

It's a bit of a mess at present. Although some getting upset if you point that out

[wavydavy]

I appreciate he stated that in his bizarre media conference. I'm not convinced that he wouldn't have stuck with him for a good bit longer given the chance

 

Only my opinion of course. Thankfully he's away

 

Of course he would have stuck with Cathro longer it was the reaction of the fans after the Dunfermline game that prompted AB to tell him enough was enough.

[Bungalow Bill]

Lets be clear on your last paragraph. Levein did not sack Cathro and had it been left up to him Cathro would still be Coach. It was the Board who sacked him or in other words AB

You've lost me.

 

So Levein didn't sack Cathro, the board did, which Levein is a member of. You then say it was Ann Budge, so not the board?

 

Could it be you haven't a clue what was discussed at the board meeting to sack Cathro and you're purely speculating?

[RS86]

We have gotten quality players after the window in recent years. I imagine that could be the case again this year.

 

3 that immediately spring to mind are Pallardo, Djoum and Rossi.

 

Pallardo was good in championship season, miles off the pace to make the step up but if Rossi was still here he'd still be a regular starter (and we'd be better defensively IMO) and Djoum is arguably our best player when he actually plays well.

 

Edit - Replied before reading on and saw that you effectively said the same already

 

Completely agree though, there are still going to be players available who can improve the squad

[wavydavy]

You've lost me.

 

So Levein didn't sack Cathro, the board did, which Levein is a member of. You then say it was Ann Budge, so not the board?

 

Could it be you haven't a clue what was discussed at the board meeting to sack Cathro and you're purely speculating?

 

The one thing that is evident from the meeting is that Cathro was sacked after it.

 

How many board members are there? AB herself said that it was a Board decision to sack Cathro.

 

Levein is an Executive Director of the club and sits on the Board of which there is only one other Executive Director Ann Budge all the others are non executive.

[Bungalow Bill]

The one thing that is evident from the meeting is that Cathro was sacked after it.

 

How many board members are there? AB herself said that it was a Board decision to sack Cathro.

 

Levein is an Executive Director of the club and sits on the Board of which there is only one other Executive Director Ann Budge all the others are non executive.

So you know for fact it was only Ann Budge that wanted to sack Cathro and not Levein, or both?

[E3OBE]

Lets get this thread back on track. It looks like Sow has left his club...a return??

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If MK Dons haven't already made a move I'd be surprised. With that said, I'd through everything at getting him back, serious talent.

[wavydavy]

So you know for fact it was only Ann Budge that wanted to sack Cathro and not Levein, or both?

 

Using my powers of deduction if the decision was made by the Executive Directors of which there is only two then yes it was AB that wanted him sacked. Now my perception on this is that she was reluctant to do so but the reaction of the fans swayed her decision. And before you ask I don't have any proof this is my opinion.

 

I don't have the HMFC Boardroom bugged so don't know for sure however Ann Budge herself said that it was a Board decision to sack him. She never actually specified how the vote if one actually happened panned out from the six directors that make up the Board and whether a full board sat or in fact if all members were present.

 

Given the support that Levein had for Cathro I would assume that he would have wanted to perservere and keep him. 

 

One thing that is a fact is that tomorrow's Saturday and I will be at Kilmarnock supporting Hearts and I have a calendar to prove it.

[JamboAl]

Using my powers of deduction if the decision was made by the Executive Directors of which there is only two then yes it was AB that wanted him sacked. Now my perception on this is that she was reluctant to do so but the reaction of the fans swayed her decision. And before you ask I don't have any proof this is my opinion.

 

I don't have the HMFC Boardroom bugged so don't know for sure however Ann Budge herself said that it was a Board decision to sack him. She never actually specified how the vote if one actually happened panned out from the six directors that make up the Board and whether a full board sat or in fact if all members were present.

 

Given the support that Levein had for Cathro I would assume that he would have wanted to perservere and keep him. 

 

One thing that is a fact is that tomorrow's Saturday and I will be at Kilmarnock supporting Hearts and I have a calendar to prove it.

Davy I don't think you have a scooby  Whatever suits your agenda!