IveSeenTheLight Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 If Nicholson needed "convinced" to stay with us when we arguably needed him most then suddenly I'm feeling a little better about him leaving. The story I heard was that the clubs had agreed a fee, the agent negotiated a deal which would have increased his wages significantly, thus was recommending he took the offer. He was told he would not be guaranteed a position as we had Hayes in his direct position and he would get occasional games and developed to be Hayes replacement. Nicholson's dad then convinced him that staying with Hearts would provide more game time (at the time) and you could not deny it was probably the right decision (at the time) Nicholson may not have initiated the discussions and certainly was under contract so would only have been in discussions after the clubs had agreed a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 On keepers was it not McGregor who was disgraced with Ferguson during Leveins Scotland troubles? More chance of me playing in goal next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 On keepers was it not McGregor who was disgraced with Ferguson during Leveins Scotland troubles? More chance of me playing in goal next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgaro Gomis Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'm sure it was during Burleys reign, not Leveins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'm sure it was during Burleys reign, not Leveins. Was it Burley. My word how time has passed. Burley was before Levein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 The story I heard was that the clubs had agreed a fee, the agent negotiated a deal which would have increased his wages significantly, thus was recommending he took the offer. He was told he would not be guaranteed a position as we had Hayes in his direct position and he would get occasional games and developed to be Hayes replacement. Nicholson's dad then convinced him that staying with Hearts would provide more game time (at the time) and you could not deny it was probably the right decision (at the time) Nicholson may not have initiated the discussions and certainly was under contract so would only have been in discussions after the clubs had agreed a fee. That's fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgaro Gomis Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Was it Burley. My word how time has passed. Burley was before Levein? I could be wrong, but that's what my memory is telling me. On seconds thoughts, based on that I'm almost certainly wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I could be wrong, but that's what my memory is telling me. On seconds thoughts, based on that I'm almost certainly wrong It was defo Burley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I could be wrong, but that's what my memory is telling me. On seconds thoughts, based on that I'm almost certainly wrong Definitely Burley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just joe Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Spot on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I still think he will take a bit of shifting, probably looking for most of his years salary[emoji45] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He looks like he's put the beef on since joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambmoz Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 He looks like he's put the beef on since joining us. all that good living from his 4K a week, would be in everybody's interests to come to an agreement tho. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Boyce signed for Burton 500K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 So McGregor at least doesnt have any history with Levein then. Still snowballs chance of that one occurring. Someone I'm sure spoke about Steven Fletcher, surely that is a wind up with Levein!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Shame about Boyce. Would have liked him. Oshaniwa will only go if we pay him up so there's no real upside to losing him. Shocking deal that was, like many of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Shark Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Semantics Not another Bosnian, FFS look how well the last one did for us !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_jailer Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Nottingham forest after Ali Crawford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Barnsley agree fee for Liam Lyndsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Not another Bosnian, FFS look how well the last one did for us !! Croatian!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Shark Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Croatian!!! That's a relief. Worth a shout ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes of course, but he is giving the illusion we have some sort of control over what Nicholson does next, and we have none at all. We cant block him signing for whoever he wants, be that Aberdeen, the US or anywhere else.Read my post again. I'm saying if Sam is not going to the USA, the club has 3 options. It's not that difficult to get your head around, surely? Nobody - other than you - mentioned anything about blocking him signing for anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Is there any other fans threads on their forums on the topic of signings in a similar state as this one. I mean any neutral looking in on this thread must be saying WTF. Mind you were are letting a DOF who seriously fecked up last seasons recruitment deal do it all again. Or at least have a hand in it. Lets hope lessons are learnt on the judgements at least from last years signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Henry Furst Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I have a feeling we will hear a klaxon before the week is out. Attempting to grapple the ITK crown from the Notts felly, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Read my post again. I'm saying if Sam is not going to the USA, the club has 3 options. It's not that difficult to get your head around, surely? Nobody - other than you - mentioned anything about blocking him signing for anyone else. A player out of contract = The club has no control and NO Options until the player reaches an agreement with another club and even then the OPTIONS are severely limited. Its really simple. My head is fully round it. You cant play hard-ball unless you have the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 A player out of contract = The club has no control and NO Options until the player reaches an agreement with another club and even then the OPTIONS are severely limited. Its really simple. My head is fully round it. You cant play hard-ball unless you have the ball. So we agree. The club will have options if Sam signs for another UK club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExecutive Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Attempting to grapple the ITK crown from the Notts felly, imo. Not at all. If I have any info I will pass it on. If I don't then I won't say a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 So we agree. The club will have options if Sam signs for another UK club? No. They will receive the full training compensation fee as per the FIFA regs. No other OPTION exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 No. They will receive the full training compensation fee as per the FIFA regs. No other OPTION exists. Other than negotiating an agreed fee (like we did with Holt) or taking it to a tribunal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Ingram Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 No. They will receive the full training compensation fee as per the FIFA regs. No other OPTION exists. Yes it does... the club can agree to accept a lower fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Is there any other fans threads on their forums on the topic of signings in a similar state as this one. I mean any neutral looking in on this thread must be saying WTF. Mind you were are letting a DOF who seriously fecked up last seasons recruitment deal do it all again. Or at least have a hand in it. Lets hope lessons are learnt on the judgements at least from last years signings. I'm reading this thinking irony. It's in there somewhere [emoji12] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes it does... the club can agree to accept a lower fee. And why on earth would we do that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 STFU. If you want to argue semantics take it elsewhere. Sick of seeing new posts with **** all to do with transfers. Yes I'm salty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Other than negotiating an agreed fee (like we did with Holt) or taking it to a tribunal. We agreed a fee for Holt because it was a Scottish transfer. If he goes to another association, England for example, the fee is fixed, there is no negotiation needed and no tribunal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 And why on earth would we do that ? If it's a choice between that and no fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 STFU. If you want to argue semantics take it elsewhere. Sick of seeing new posts with **** all to do with transfers. Yes I'm salty. Got any transfers we can talk about like ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 If it's a choice between that and no fee. The only circumstance under which we get no fee is if he goes to the US. and even thats appealable through FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyhmfc Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 A Car Crash of a thread. Please close mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenks Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 A Car Crash of a thread. Please close mods.Will only be replaced by a train crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 STFU. If you want to argue semantics take it elsewhere. Sick of seeing new posts with **** all to do with transfers. Yes I'm salty. This Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 The only circumstance under which we get no fee is if he goes to the US. and even thats appealable through FIFA.NOBODY CARES ON HERE Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 No. They will receive the full training compensation fee as per the FIFA regs. No other OPTION exists.NOBODY CARES Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 So we agree. The club will have options if Sam signs for another UK club?NOBODY CARES Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Why are the mods not butting in to tell the folk discussing Sam that there is already a thread for that? This is for potential transfers coming into the club, get back on topic ffs. Come on to **** mods, get all the pish posts (most of the thread) deleted. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Why are the mods not butting in to tell the folk discussing Sam that there is already a thread for that? This is for potential transfers coming into the club, get back on topic ffs. Come on to **** mods, get all the pish posts (most of the thread) deleted. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk This thread would be trimmed to 3 pages and would make it easy for fellow kickbackers Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 No rumours it's a central thread to kick shit out of one another. Any news the target will get their own thread I'm sure. Meanwhile what arsehole thinks Nicholson should pay Hearts to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Is there any other fans threads on their forums on the topic of signings in a similar state as this one. I mean any neutral looking in on this thread must be saying WTF. Mind you were are letting a DOF who seriously fecked up last seasons recruitment deal do it all again. Or at least have a hand in it. Lets hope lessons are learnt on the judgements at least from last years signings. Also letting the guy that rebuilt us, blew away hibs/ rangers then finished third and had us 2nd until Dec, when a change of coach and injuries hit us do it all again. Depends on how short your memory is. 6 months or 3 years, mines goes back 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'm reading this thinking irony. It's in there somewhere [emoji12] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Also letting the guy that rebuilt us, blew away hibs/ rangers then finished third and had us 2nd until Dec, when a change of coach and injuries hit us do it all again. Depends on how short your memory is. 6 months or 3 years, mines goes back 3 years. You talking about Robbie?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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