vegas-voss Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Dragon Reborn said: I don’t see Sunak resigning. He wants the top job too much. It looked dreadful for him a few hours ago but as more details have come out it’s looking better. The fines given out are in relation to BJ’s birthday soiree. Out of all the events being investigated, it’s the one that most people can understand/accept the most. There will be more fines to come for Johnson which mean he will have to go at some point. Sunak survives this fine and he’ll be PM within six months imo. Sunak won't be PM.His rating among the electorate has nose dived.He looked a stick on popular choice a few months back but not anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon Reborn Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: Sunak won't be PM.His rating among the electorate has nose dived.He looked a stick on popular choice a few months back but not anymore. He’s had a terrible week. It’ll be forgotten in a month and overshadowed by what is to come for Johnson and the inevitable counter briefing against Truss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Emailed Ross and Ian Murray tonight. Told Ross to stop backing the lying fat slob. Asked Murray to along with Starmer and the rest of the opposition to be relentless in their pursuit of getting Fatso and the Billionaire to resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Nadine Dorries absolutely skooshed the race to get Cabinet Support out. What a trooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Changing PM during a war the UK is directly involved in is almost compulsory. Obviously if we are not directly involved then it becomes much, much more difficult .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 59 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: You know we are in trouble when the politicians don’t even know which country they live in. Or in the case of the PM how many kids he has . I believe that is a problem that Leigh Griffiths has.astoninshly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 The most important question still goes unanswered. Was there actually a cake? If so what kind of cake was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: The most important question still goes unanswered. Was there actually a cake? If so what kind of cake was it? At last some sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, Costanza said: Nadine Dorries absolutely skooshed the race to get Cabinet Support out. What a trooper. Ching king Gove still going with the 'he got all the big calls right' line. 😂 I see the Governor General of Scotland has bent the knee too. Where are you in your life when you'll sell any shred of dignity you might have had to defend Spaffer? Keep voting Tory ya mugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbies right hand man Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Robbies right hand man said: It does when their vote of legalisation that involves not paying their fair way, remember “we’re on it it together” rubbish. When anybody poor was made to seem a horrible scrounger, whilst the red pest loving demonisation the poor, whilst most Tories and Business got tax breaks in reality. never said they were - The Tories however are mostly to keep their money and the lower class as penniless and with the fewest rights as possible. I understand your point - many reach do it stuff that’s nice and help people. SO do people really suffering and that the country should be on fairness and principle. We’ll again to disagree on this my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Ching king Gove still going with the 'he got all the big calls right' line. 😂 I see the Governor General of Scotland has bent the knee too. Where are you in your life when you'll sell any shred of dignity you might have had to defend Spaffer? Keep voting Tory ya mugs. Michael Gove knows all about the big calls, lest we forget "His set of friends agreed he wasn't the man for the job saying he was not worldly enough and claiming 'This is the man who had to be stopped trying to unblock his toilet with a hoover'" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Costanza said: Michael Gove knows all about the big calls, lest we forget "His set of friends agreed he wasn't the man for the job saying he was not worldly enough and claiming 'This is the man who had to be stopped trying to unblock his toilet with a hoover'" Hoovering up shit appears to be his speciality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Never watch the news but decided to watch bbc news at 9 . A reporter as outside Downing Street , trying to speak to the anchor but he was being drowned out by a group of protestors blaring “ i faught the law “ pretty comical and says everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 “ all in it together “ aye ??? here’s me going about with hair like Worzel Gummidge whilst Brenda is getting her locks done on the side during lockdown https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/11/queen-dodged-lockdown-hair-by-forming-hms-bubble-of-selected-staff?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0TkwhoC10OAzvXWDxVlPJeM0-R_BFvdwLrJlzY8Pr4iyqNAJCzXmYAkfI#Echobox=1649704011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 “Rules are for the interpretation of wise men and the obedience of fools” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 We live in a Society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said: Yes the UK and Scottish governments are woefully inadequate, I agree I'm glad you agree that the fact that charity has to exist is a sign of government failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: At last some sense If it turns out that the Cake was an Aldi Colin the Caterpillar ripoff then he has lost my vote. I will only take so much. 😤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 It can’t be denied that Johnson, brexit, this govt…it is a cult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 51 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: It can’t be denied that Johnson, brexit, this govt…it is a cult. The cult is full of vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 The latest opinion polls show Labour short of a majority, though ahead of the Tories, and there is still plenty of time between now and the next General Election for Conservative electoral prospects to improve. Unless the poll gap widens and Conservative backbenchers start to get worried, it looks like Johnson will be staying in the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 hours ago, dobmisterdobster said: The most important question still goes unanswered. Was there actually a cake? If so what kind of cake was it? I heard they were only eating cake because there was no bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 There it is! The Nazi sounds the clarion call for the little Englanders (and of course the Hoose Jocks). Mugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 10 hours ago, RobboM said: Changing PM during a war the UK is directly involved in is almost compulsory. Obviously if we are not directly involved then it becomes much, much more difficult .... Chris Bryant taking selfies in his Y-fronts and putting them on the internet is a bigger crime than whatever Boris did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon Reborn Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 If it was a quick ten minute gathering before a meeting to hand over a cake and sing happy birthday then I wouldn’t be all that fussed to be honest and I’’d be surprised the police decided to hand out fines. The very fact they did hand out the fines suggests it wasn’t just ten minutes and wasn’t socially distanced. Especially if there is a photo of Boris with a can of beer. More importantly, out of the twelve events being investigated this was the one that was felt to be least likely to result in fines. The fact it has sets the bar very low and means it is highly likely further fines will follow for Johnson and his wife. Sunak may survive this single fine but no way even Teflon Johnson survives multiple fines imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Dragon Reborn said: If it was a quick ten minute gathering before a meeting to hand over a cake and sing happy birthday then I wouldn’t be all that fussed to be honest and I’’d be surprised the police decided to hand out fines. The very fact they did hand out the fines suggests it wasn’t just ten minutes and wasn’t socially distanced. Especially if there is a photo of Boris with a can of beer. More importantly, out of the twelve events being investigated this was the one that was felt to be least likely to result in fines. The fact it has sets the bar very low and means it is highly likely further fines will follow for Johnson and his wife. Sunak may survive this single fine but no way even Teflon Johnson survives multiple fines imo. No10 said they would announce if Spaffer received a FPN. They've not stated they will announce any others if they come. If more come then they'll say nothing. It will be leaked but they'll just stonewall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 11 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said: Yes the UK and Scottish governments are woefully inadequate, I agree 😂😂😂😂 Stick to the topic please. Snp bad thread is elsewhere for you to greet and moan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Ulysses said: The latest opinion polls show Labour short of a majority, though ahead of the Tories, and there is still plenty of time between now and the next General Election for Conservative electoral prospects to improve. Unless the poll gap widens and Conservative backbenchers start to get worried, it looks like Johnson will be staying in the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Imaman said: Emailed Ross and Ian Murray tonight. Told Ross to stop backing the lying fat slob. Asked Murray to along with Starmer and the rest of the opposition to be relentless in their pursuit of getting Fatso and the Billionaire to resign. Ian Murray is the biggest unionist of the lot, doubt he will say much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 If we are now getting rid of politicians who received fixed-penalty-notices can we start with Humza Yousaf? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: If we are now getting rid of politicians who received fixed-penalty-notices can we start with Humza Yousaf? 🤔 I don't know, did he mislead parliament? That's the sacking offence here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: If we are now getting rid of politicians who received fixed-penalty-notices can we start with Humza Yousaf? 🤔 What did Humza Yousef receive a fixed penalty notice for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said: What did Humza Yousef receive a fixed penalty notice for? Uninsured driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Uninsured driving. It's his greatest political achievement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Uninsured driving. if that's true, then that's worse imo in terms of the action. However if he didn't point blank lie to his colleagues in parliament then I'm not too fussed about it as long as he doesn't do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Uninsured driving. That's not clever. Did he stand up in parliament and say repeatedly over a period of weeks that he was assured that he definitely was insured? If not its another case of false equivalence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Uninsured driving. Aye but he’s a guid Scottish lad so it’s ok likesay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: if that's true, then that's worse imo in terms of the action. However if he didn't point blank lie to his colleagues in parliament then I'm not too fussed about it as long as he doesn't do it again. I'm not fussed about what he did. I'm just highlighting the triviality of a Fixed-Penalty-Notice. I will also point out that FPNs are specifically designed to not jeopardize the employment status of the recipient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Getting all the big calls right 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: I'm not fussed about what he did. I'm just highlighting the triviality of a Fixed-Penalty-Notice. I will also point out that FPNs are specifically designed to not jeopardize the employment status of the recipient. The FPN in and of itself could maybe be survivable, if he hadn't misled parliament about any wrong doing. misleading parliament is a capital crime in terms of political careers. Edited April 13, 2022 by A Boy Named Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: I'm not fussed about what he did. I'm just highlighting the triviality of a Fixed-Penalty-Notice. I will also point out that FPNs are specifically designed to not jeopardize the employment status of the recipient. The fixed penalty notices are indeed not designed to jeapordise the employment status of the recipient. Standing up in the 'mother of all parliaments' and lying, then lying again, then lying some more, should terminate the employment of the individual, particularly the one that is meant to lead the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: I watched the Savile documentary last night. Whilst I am in no way suggesting that Johnson is a deviant the similarities between Johnson and Savile are uncanny. Very careful crafted public image, the disheveled, bumbling, jovial eccentric exterior belying the stone cold, pathologically lying narcissism. Peas of a pod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: I'm not fussed about what he did. I'm just highlighting the triviality of a Fixed-Penalty-Notice. I will also point out that FPNs are specifically designed to not jeopardize the employment status of the recipient. Interesting; I asked a few questions on that earlier in the thread around what an FPN meant: - does it mean someone is guilty, or just whether the police think they are - is paying it an admission of guilt I don't want to be accused of defending them, as I'm not, but I'm curious as to the answer to those questions as I imagine that's how he'll look to avoid standing down. Edited April 13, 2022 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Taffin said: Interesting; I asked a few questions on that earlier in the thread around what an FPN meant: - does it mean someone is guilty, or just whether the police think they are - is paying it an admission of guilt I don't want to be accused of defending them, as I'm not, but I'm curious as to the answer to those questions as I imagine that's how he'll look to avoid standing down. Anyone in receipt of a FPN who believes they are not guilty of the offence can of course contest it in court. Therefore if you pay the fine then i'd suggest that would indicate that you don't fancy your chances of proving your innocence in open court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon Reborn Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I watched the Savile documentary last night. Whilst I am in no way suggesting that Johnson is a deviant the similarities between Johnson and Savile are uncanny. Very careful crafted public image, the disheveled, bumbling, jovial eccentric exterior belying the stone cold, pathologically lying narcissism. Peas of a pod. Pretty shan comparison to make to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: That’s certainly one attribute Johnson doesn’t have. Boris Johnson once wrote in a spectator article in 2004 about how the Liverpool fans always see themselves as victims in reference to the Hillsborough tragedy and that drunken fans were to blame. He then refused to apologise when called out about this by the then Liverpool mayor in 2019. So aii, no class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Boris Johnson once wrote in a spectator article in 2004 about how the Liverpool fans always see themselves as victims in reference to the Hillsborough tragedy and that drunken fans were to blame. He then refused to apologise when called out about this by the then Liverpool mayor in 2019. So aii, no class. Exactly. An utter cretin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Claiming he didn’t know he was breaking the rules is not a reasonable defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hughesie27 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Johnson and his pals love taking full responsibility for their mistakes without actually taking any responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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