Space Mackerel Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Scottish education chiefs fighting back the usual SNP baaaaaad from the dafties. https://www.tes.com/news/its-guff-scottish-education-terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said: More chance of hibs winning the champions league than the "Union dying" £100 on h1b5 then 😁😁😁 https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17893682.odds-39-now-clearly-favour-39-scottish-independence-says-bookmaker/ Edited December 24, 2019 by Space Mackerel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 24/12/2019 at 08:41, Ainsley Harriott said: More chance of hibs winning the champions league than the "Union dying" Sturgeon will be gone by February perhaps March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, alfajambo said: Sturgeon will be gone by February perhaps March. Fingers crossed the sight of her nippy wee face gives me the boke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 What about her little speech on Christmas Eve - Id like to thank the emergency services blah blah blah trying to get the jump on the Queen ? doughnut ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Fingers crossed the sight of her nippy wee face gives me the boke At the stage now where I feel compelled to leave the room or change channel when wee Jimmy Krankie is scheduled to exit more divisive bile into the air. Not for long though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, alfajambo said: At the stage now where I feel compelled to leave the room or change channel when wee Jimmy Krankie is scheduled to exit more divisive bile into the air. Not for long though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 You'll find winning the majority of seats in Scotland means nothing when the Tories have such a big majority in Westminster You raging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: You'll find winning the majority of seats in Scotland means nothing when the Tories have such a big majority in Westminster You raging Did you vote in the GE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: You'll find winning the majority of seats in Scotland means nothing when the Tories have such a big majority in Westminster You raging Spot on. Spacey going round in circles again here as there is zero the SNP can do about it. It's getting near to the time to get the popcorn out for the court case to find out if anyone else gets implicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, frankblack said: Spot on. Spacey going round in circles again here as there is zero the SNP can do about it. It's getting near to the time to get the popcorn out for the court case to find out if anyone else gets implicated. Looking forwrd to a court case about? Whats the court case about? And you are looking forward to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: You'll find winning the majority of seats in Scotland means nothing when the Tories have such a big majority in Westminster You raging Not raging, very disheartening some in Scotland support the tories... Terry McGarvey, 48. Dangerously ill from polycytheamia, Terry asked for an ambulance to be called during his Work Capability Assessment. He knew that he wasn’t well enough to attend his WCA but feared that his benefits would be stopped if he did not. He died the following day. https://welfareweekly.com/iain-duncan-smiths-directory-death/ Sickening that anyone would support that really but some people are just sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, jumpship said: Looking forwrd to a court case about? Whats the court case about? And you are looking forward to it? In case you missed it, as I guess you don't follow the news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50486713?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c4lkkjr9k12t/alex-salmond-case&link_location=live-reporting-story A lot of people will be watching that case with interest to see what is revealed in court, and whether others get implicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, jumpship said: Not raging, very disheartening some in Scotland support the tories... Terry McGarvey, 48. Dangerously ill from polycytheamia, Terry asked for an ambulance to be called during his Work Capability Assessment. He knew that he wasn’t well enough to attend his WCA but feared that his benefits would be stopped if he did not. He died the following day. https://welfareweekly.com/iain-duncan-smiths-directory-death/ Sickening that anyone would support that really but some people are just sick. Not liking the SNP is not the same as being a tory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, frankblack said: Not liking the SNP is not the same as being a tory. Not liking the Separatist National Party is simply an informed choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 24/12/2019 at 01:35, frankblack said: Completely flawed premise. Constitutional powers are not devolved, so Westminster can block it for as long as it likes and Boris is going to do that. I hope for your sake you don't intend on recycling this type of junk for the next 5 to 15 years plus. You're wasting your time. Good guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, alfajambo said: Not liking the Separatist National Party is simply an informed choice. Good guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Imagine an independent Scotland knocking back England and wee shitey Wales application for the EU in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Cannae see this New Empire v2.0 lasting long, who they going to invade? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 lolz. Going great 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 On 24/12/2019 at 00:57, Space Mackerel said: Do you think when the Union dies there will be a few posters on here who will argue that the Union is back but the same Union with a different debt? 😁😁😁 Wonder how those who vote remain and independence will argue the economic argument if England doesnt strike a trade deal with Europe . Isnt most of Scotlands trade with England dwarfing our trade with Europe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: You'll find winning the majority of seats in Scotland means nothing when the Tories have such a big majority in Westminster You raging Far from it and with Boris at the helm. Edited December 29, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, jake said: Wonder how those who vote remain and independence will argue the economic argument if England doesnt strike a trade deal with Europe . Isnt most of Scotlands trade with England dwarfing our trade with Europe ? Not really. When you're made to trade with England for near 300 years. It takes a wee while longer than we've had in the EU to balance it out. But hey, £65b+ we spend on England, we can now spend elsewhere . 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 11 hours ago, alfajambo said: Sturgeon will be gone by February perhaps March. When's Trump going? Trump, Boris, Farage and evangelicalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Not really. When you're made to trade with England for near 300 years. It takes a wee while longer than we've had in the EU to balance it out. But hey, £65b+ we spend on England, we can now spend elsewhere . 👍 Same argument as Brexit except the savings and redistribution of them could be directly sourced from the taxpayer. Your 66 billion is private trade. We cannot choose where to spend it. That's a private matter. I've no problem with that. If an independent Scotlands to be a success it will imo have to play the capitalist game but aim for a high end economy. It cannot be tied to any union. Especially the EU. That's how I see it Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 7 hours ago, frankblack said: In case you missed it, as I guess you don't follow the news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50486713?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c4lkkjr9k12t/alex-salmond-case&link_location=live-reporting-story A lot of people will be watching that case with interest to see what is revealed in court, and whether others get implicated. You really are broken. 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 and the other 48er. The Saviour of Scotland 48ers!!!!!!!!!!! The staunchists 11ers Fecking Easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 10 hours ago, alfajambo said: At the stage now where I feel compelled to leave the room or change channel when wee Jimmy Krankie is scheduled to exit more divisive bile into the air. Not for long though. Surprised at your post tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, jake said: Same argument as Brexit except the savings and redistribution of them could be directly sourced from the taxpayer. Your 66 billion is private trade. We cannot choose where to spend it. That's a private matter. I've no problem with that. If an independent Scotlands to be a success it will imo have to play the capitalist game but aim for a high end economy. It cannot be tied to any union. Especially the EU. That's how I see it Alban At the first GE , all parties can try to sell how they want to govern Scotland, whether that's through EU membership or not(Referendum). I'll be voting for Scotland to bring about this first GE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, jake said: Same argument as Brexit except the savings and redistribution of them could be directly sourced from the taxpayer. Your 66 billion is private trade. We cannot choose where to spend it. That's a private matter. I've no problem with that. If an independent Scotlands to be a success it will imo have to play the capitalist game but aim for a high end economy. It cannot be tied to any union. Especially the EU. That's how I see it Alban 👍 I hope we get to vote for parties who offer these ideas or not. Edited December 29, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Space Mackerel said: Cannae see this New Empire v2.0 lasting long, who they going to invade? 😁 Haha love you assume Scotland will be right back in the EU despite not meeting the entry criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Any definite positions on currency, deficit , immediate entry to EU, borders , loss of English trade , loss of jobs and pensions , rate of higher tax - naw didnae think so but Freeeeeedumb and boomtown in Brigadoon an aw rat Hope there’s no skeletons in Jimmys cupboard or games up the pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 14 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: What about her little speech on Christmas Eve - Id like to thank the emergency services blah blah blah trying to get the jump on the Queen ? doughnut ! 51 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Any definite positions on currency, deficit , immediate entry to EU, borders , loss of English trade , loss of jobs and pensions , rate of higher tax - naw didnae think so but Freeeeeedumb and boomtown in Brigadoon an aw rat Hope there’s no skeletons in Jimmys cupboard or games up the pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: Any definite positions on currency, deficit , immediate entry to EU, borders , loss of English trade , loss of jobs and pensions , rate of higher tax - naw didnae think so but Freeeeeedumb and boomtown in Brigadoon an aw rat Hope there’s no skeletons in Jimmys cupboard or games up the pole Injunctions are a real and evidential fact. Not hidden from view if you do the research. Scotland has a greater than 7% budget deficit. Independent within the confines of the EU is nothing more than an inconsequential misnomer. If a referendum was held tomorrow it would probably read 60/40 in favour of the union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Haha love you assume Scotland will be right back in the EU despite not meeting the entry criteria. Its laughable isn't it how the denial has set in. They don't realise that they won't get another referendum on Independence until Brexit is bedded in, and the unionists are confident of a clear victory. Even then they might refuse if the Nats will simply demand another go. The Nats are starting to find out that they cannot dictate to Westminster. 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, frankblack said: Its laughable isn't it how the denial has set in. They don't realise that they won't get another referendum on Independence until Brexit is bedded in, and the unionists are confident of a clear victory. Even then they might refuse if the Nats will simply demand another go. The Nats are starting to find out that they cannot dictate to Westminster. 😇 The separatists do not speak for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 hours ago, ri Alban said: You really are broken. 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 and the other 48er. The Saviour of Scotland 48ers!!!!!!!!!!! The staunchists 11ers Fecking Easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 365 😊 > 48 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 This thread seems filled with SNP fantasists cheerily jizzing themselves in anticipation of their day arriving yet real life in the shape of a Tory majority of 80 seats hasn't and will never sink in to their dense craniums. It makes their dream more of an impossibility. The historic inevitability of independence which they believe in despite the fact that under international law there is no England, Scotland Wales or Northern Ireland (which are regarded as 'regions' of the unitary state known as the United Kingdom) means their hopes arern't even hanging by the thinnest of threads because no unitary state would ever seriously countenance allowing itself to break up. Even a massive miscalculation and loss of nerve by Cameron in 2014 gifting the whole show to the SNP proved a failure. So, by all means you lot, enjoying spouting out on the internet. It's the only place where your fantasy's will ever exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 13 hours ago, frankblack said: In case you missed it, as I guess you don't follow the news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50486713?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c4lkkjr9k12t/alex-salmond-case&link_location=live-reporting-story A lot of people will be watching that case with interest to see what is revealed in court, and whether others get implicated. So you are looking forward to a case about sexual assault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, alfajambo said: The separatists do not speak for Scotland. No one speaks for Scotland, thanks to frightened folk who voted against their own countries independence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, frankblack said: Its laughable isn't it how the denial has set in. They don't realise that they won't get another referendum on Independence until Brexit is bedded in, and the unionists are confident of a clear victory. Even then they might refuse if the Nats will simply demand another go. The Nats are starting to find out that they cannot dictate to Westminster. 😇 Westminster can dictate to us though? Why do you hate Scotland? Are you Scottish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, jumpship said: So you are looking forward to a case about sexual assault? The charges are a lot more serious than you simply. I am looking for answers as to whether it was covered up. Edited December 29, 2019 by frankblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Westminster can dictate to us though? Westminster can dictate to an intransigent bitter government if they play stupid games. 19 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Why do you hate Scotland? Are you Scottish? I don't hate Scotland. Grew up here, supported the national team as a fan club member. The SNP need to be brought to book for trying to throw us under a bus in 2014 with a disgraceful White Paper that was worse than Blair's paper to go to war with Iraq. It is telling that since 2014 they won't tell us what the key policies are on Independence and the impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, frankblack said: Westminster can dictate to an intransigent bitter government if they play stupid games. I don't hate Scotland. Grew up here, supported the national team as a fan club member. The SNP need to be brought to book for trying to throw us under a bus in 2014 with a disgraceful White Paper that was worse than Blair's paper to go to war with Iraq. It is telling that since 2014 they won't tell us what the key policies are on Independence and the impact. What games? Were you born here fb? Only asking as it always appears that you wish to mock Scots who wish better for their country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, frankblack said: Westminster can dictate to an intransigent bitter government if they play stupid games. I don't hate Scotland. Grew up here, supported the national team as a fan club member. The SNP need to be brought to book for trying to throw us under a bus in 2014 with a disgraceful White Paper that was worse than Blair's paper to go to war with Iraq. It is telling that since 2014 they won't tell us what the key policies are on Independence and the impact. Aye. Because SNP errors on over optimistic oil revenues and confusion over currency union is worse than propaganda designed to overthrow a government and take control of their oil supplies, with the loss of around half a million lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, felix said: Aye. Because SNP errors on over optimistic oil revenues and confusion over currency union is worse than propaganda designed to overthrow a government and take control of their oil supplies, with the loss of around half a million lives. The fact is both were lies with the intention of winning a vote by deception. Dodgy dossier vs Dodgy white paper are much the same. The white paper demonstrated exactly why the SNP aren't fit to take us out the union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 48 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: What games? Were you born here fb? Was in supporters club for about 15 years until they stopped with the Saturday games. Your implications seem a tad racist. I moved here as a bairn pre nursery age of Scottish and English parents. 48 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Only asking as it always appears that you wish to mock Scots who wish better for their country. Nope. Just want to hold the SNP to account for the real costs of independence and get the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, frankblack said: Was in supporters club for about 15 years until they stopped with the Saturday games. Your implications seem a tad racist. I moved here as a bairn pre nursery age of Scottish and English parents. Nope. Just want to hold the SNP to account for the real costs of independence and get the truth. Games? You talked about the Scottish Government. I'm not racist, only asking as your comments about our country appear ott. Are other independent countries incapable of running their affairs or just Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, frankblack said: Was in supporters club for about 15 years until they stopped with the Saturday games. Your implications seem a tad racist. I moved here as a bairn pre nursery age of Scottish and English parents. Nope. Just want to hold the SNP to account for the real costs of independence and get the truth. Roxy likes to question where you come from. A particular attribute of nationalism. Oblivious to it and no awareness whatsoever. Blood and soil and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Games? You talked about the Scottish Government. I'm not racist, only asking as your comments about our country appear ott. Are other independent countries incapable of running their affairs or just Scotland? He's talking about the SNP. Who are not Scotland. Are you for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Trapper John McIntyre said: He's talking about the SNP. Who are not Scotland. Are you for real? You need to read the original post about the word "games". Fb responded differently. I only ask about where people are born as most are against independence that aren't born here or have English parentage. Nothing wrong with that, it's the insulting nature of the posts from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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