station_jambo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Everyone going on about his attitude...........We have a player who IMO think has the worst attitude ive seen at hearts in a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Everyone going on about his attitude...........We have a player who IMO think has the worst attitude ive seen at hearts in a long time Juanma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Everyone going on about his attitude...........We have a player who IMO think has the worst attitude ive seen at hearts in a long time Who wont be here when the window shuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Also players signed from British football, which again we said we wouldn't be doing. Don't think we said we wouldn't be signing British players, just that it was harder to get value for money from them. But don't let the facts distort your view of things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Who wont be here when the window shuts If you're ITK about this then I am very, very pleased! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtarts-1874 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Unlikely unless getting released from contract but you never know contract at Charlton is to end June 2018 I would like us to sign him. Young Pacey and has potential, but Iam not a fan of loan deals. He would be on a decent wage and if he does well he goes back to Charlton or gets punted to another team. Lets hope if the deal comes of it does include some sort of permanant option, maybe Charlton want rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Out of sync with our normal pattern. Dubious character and a loan signing, 2 things I was happy we said we wouldn't do. I'd be willing to wait. Unless this is a "bonus" signing.It seems like the 'plan' is no more. We had it bang on in the Championship, signed good quality players for that level, exciting style of football, policy of developing players with sell on value and the players we were signing had to be the right character. I dunno what's happened to the 'plan' but I'd like it re-introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station_jambo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Juanma? No Patterson....although Juanma is one i forgot about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Who wont be here when the window shuts Hopefully you mean Paterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 No Patterson....although Juanma is one i forgot about! How do you know this though? Atleast Paterson plays for the jersey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Who wont be here when the window shuts How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Proven bad attitude so I'd be very surprised if we took him. Like muirhead then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station_jambo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 How do you know this though? Atleast Paterson plays for the jersey! How do you know Watt wont? Id rather have Smith at RB than Billy Big Baws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 He has swagger and a bit of cockyness. I like that in a striker. I see someone saying he had a horrible loan spell at Cardiff and they hated him. Someone obviously needs to tell my Mate then. He's a Cardiff fan and says the fans were desperate for them to keep him. He has tons of ability. If we can sort his head out it could be a masterstroke. I presume this wasn't the one you were sworn to secrecy on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 How do you know? A calculated guess. Heavy hunch. No more than that. If we don't get rid now we have missed his peak value and we'll end up getting 200k. Get rid now and we could get 500k IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 How do you know? Why do you ask a ****ing question every single one of your posts. Do you not know anything. Sorry but it's getting right on my charlies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazza74 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Not for me, a feruz type signing and look how that went with the hobos, I'm sure we can do better than Tony watt , he's living of that one goal against barca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Not for me, a feruz type signing and look how that went with the hobos, I'm sure we can do better than Tony watt , he's living of that one goal against barca Hahahahahahahaha wot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Mind that time Feruz played regularly for Celtic and scored in the Champions League? Aye me tae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Developing other teams players. Well hold me back. Our 1st 2nd or 3rd target must not have been available. What happened to waiting to see if we got a bargain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 If he scores 15-20 goals a season, i really don't care what is attitude is like tbh. We've got to remember that we're shopping not quite in the clearance aisle of the transfer supermarket but definitely in the 'damaged goods' section for the most part. I'd quite like it if we signed him and kept Paterson this season. Smith is good but he is still relatively untested. I think we can get a good season from Paterson with Smith backing him up before making some money on him next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 If he scores 15-20 goals a season, i really don't care what is attitude is like tbh. We've got to remember that we're shopping not quite in the clearance aisle of the transfer supermarket but definitely in the 'damaged goods' section for the most part. I'd quite like it if we signed him and kept Paterson this season. Smith is good but he is still relatively untested. I think we can get a good season from Paterson with Smith backing him up before making some money on him next year.Unless Paterson signs a new contract before leaving we're only getting a development fee for him which isn't good. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 If he scores 15-20 goals a season, i really don't care what is attitude is like tbh. We've got to remember that we're shopping not quite in the clearance aisle of the transfer supermarket but definitely in the 'damaged goods' section for the most part. I'd quite like it if we signed him and kept Paterson this season. Smith is good but he is still relatively untested. I think we can get a good season from Paterson with Smith backing him up before making some money on him next year. making money on Paterson ? That ship has sailed unless he signs a new deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Why do you ask a ******* question every single one of your posts. Do you not know anything. Sorry but it's getting right on my charlies. Ha ha he's done it for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Developing other teams players. Well hold me back. Our 1st 2nd or 3rd target must not have been available. What happened to waiting to see if we got a bargain? And Zeefuik - proven he can score for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazza74 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Mind that time Feruz played regularly for Celtic and scored in the Champions League? Aye me tae.Aye he scored against barca, and what else has he done, there's a reason why he's had so many clubs in a short career, I for on don't want someone else's problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Developing other teams players. Well hold me back. Our 1st 2nd or 3rd target must not have been available. What happened to waiting to see if we got a bargain? We are developing our own players though, many seem to have stalled on ability and on signing contracts though recently, and so it's far from a gaurantee of success either. Also could be a chance of an option to sign him permanently. Who knows, there is potential for him to improve us there, hopefully we can realise it. Wonder if he is not our only target in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Aye he scored against barca, and what else has he done, there's a reason why he's had so many clubs in a short career, I for on don't want someone else's problem He just got capped for Scotland and Charlton want him to stay, however he wants to be closer to home for now. Blackburn would have signed him if he hadn't got injured in April. Cardiff had their own issues which prevented them from signing him too. Oh and Liege paid ?1.3m for him. "Like Feruz". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station_jambo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 And Zeefuik - proven he can score for us In the Championship! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 And Zeefuik - proven he can score for us In a lower division. It's not proven he can score goals in this division. I would imagine this loan signing is a bonus one (the article mentions he is homesick so it's obviously come up at short notice) and we are still looking at other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I presume this wasn't the one you were sworn to secrecy on? Never heard a peep about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Developing other teams players. Well hold me back. Our 1st 2nd or 3rd target must not have been available. What happened to waiting to see if we got a bargain? he's Charlton's player by contract but not in reality even if he does well for Hearts he's very unlikely to play for them again as others have said decent chance Hearts will do a deal with option to sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 And Zeefuik - proven he can score for us Offer me Watt and Zeefuik and I'll take Watt every time. He has played at a higher level for longer and scored at this level in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazza74 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 He just got capped for Scotland and Charlton want him to stay, however he wants to be closer to home for now. Blackburn would have signed him if he hadn't got injured in April. Cardiff had their own issues which prevented them from signing him too. Oh and Liege paid ?1.3m for him. "Like Feruz". I might be wrong but didn't he go on loan to liege? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Never heard a peep about this and could well be an additional signing with another forward to follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I might be wrong but didn't he go on loan to liege? Loaned to Lierse, signed for Liege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfWestLothian Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I don't know why some people are reluctant to loan signings. The loan market is a great way of us getting in players we could not afford otherwise. We improve them as a player and they improve our performances on the pitch meaning more money through higher league positions, cup runs, Europa games etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I might be wrong but didn't he go on loan to liege? yes on loan for a year then Liege signed him for ?1.28 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I would rather give one of our own players game time. Either Watt plays crap and then we have paid a wage for a player for a year and hampered game time for our own players. Or he plays well and then leaves us at the end of the season to return to his parent club or gets sold onto celtic. I don't like us taking young players on loan we have no chance of signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Aye he scored against barca, and what else has he done, there's a reason why he's had so many clubs in a short career, I for on don't want someone else's problem It's the sort of market we are in up in Scotland. The only way we will see players with ability that other teams fancy is if we rear our own or take on guys who have the ability but are towing some baggage that we hope to be able to work on. Good players with a history of physical or mental issues that have held them back and the like. Some will work out, others won't. The sad reality of the situation now is that we cannot offer as much money as some really pushy wee small English clubs and so it's necessary to be more shrewd when looking at potential targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I would rather give one of our own players game time. Either Watt plays crap and then we have paid a wage for a player for a year and hampered game time for our own players. Or he plays well and then leaves us at the end of the season to return to his parent club or gets sold onto celtic. I don't like us taking young players on loan we have no chance of signing. Which player would you give game time to ahead of Watt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazza74 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Yep liege paid 1.2 million for him the same money that Derby paid for sammon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Yep liege paid 1.2 million for him the same money that Derby paid for sammon Yep who has paid ?1.2m for Islam Feruz? Watt is a very, very good footballer. He's a good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfWestLothian Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I would rather give one of our own players game time. Either Watt plays crap and then we have paid a wage for a player for a year and hampered game time for our own players. Or he plays well and then leaves us at the end of the season to return to his parent club or gets sold onto celtic. I don't like us taking young players on loan we have no chance of signing. I would rather we played the best players possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Yep who has paid ?1.2m for Islam Feruz? Watt is a very, very good footballer. He's a good signing. Talking like its a done deal. This happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Talking like its a done deal. This happening? No idea! The language used by the journo down south seemed very certain, I think it'll happen but it's a feeling more than any ITK knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 and could well be an additional signing with another forward to follow Zeefuik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazza74 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 As I've said not a signing I'd like to see but I'd be delighted if he came in and scored goals for us , I just have a bad feeling about it, but I'd love to be proven wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Which player would you give game time to ahead of Watt? Its actually a bit of a failure and a sad indictment that you couldn't really identify one young striker brought through at our club who is remotely ready for a chance. Nine external signings for our under 20's this summer. Almost unnoticed by most but hugely significant IMO. Suggests that not only are we not producing many players promotable to the first team, we don't have anything coming from the 17/18 group either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 This could work out well for Watt and consequently for Hearts. If he came to us and hit the ground running with a few goals he would be a cert for the World Cup quals starting in September with Malta, then Lithuania and of course the Auld Enemy in November. Surely that would appeal to any true hairy-arsed Scotsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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