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Can't be arsed reading through to find out, but will we be getting drawn into wee groups of potential opponents like previous campaigns?

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Can't be arsed reading through to find out, but will we be getting drawn into wee groups of potential opponents like previous campaigns?

Asked this earlier in the thread and it was suggested they split teams into pools of 7 or 8. It is suggested on Bert Klassies website that this grouping process can regionalise the draw to ensure small clubs don't get a very expensive long trip but there is no official confirmation of this.

 

In previous years, I am sure the splits get announced the day/night before the draw so we may have a better idea come Sunday, anyone confirm that?

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Anyone got a list of our potential 1st round or 2nd round opponents yet? Can't seem to see anything on UEFA website and are we seeded for 2nd round? Surely we know this by now, with all the European leagues well finished? Apologies if I've missed it.

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Anyone got a list of our potential 1st round or 2nd round opponents yet? Can't seem to see anything on UEFA website and are we seeded for 2nd round? Surely we know this by now, with all the European leagues well finished? Apologies if I've missed it.

 

We are seeded in round one, so the unseeded potential opponents for us in 1st round are as below (coefficient points in brackets):

 

 

 

If we win in first round, we will be seeded in second round.  Below are the unseeded teams in the second round/potential fixtures (not sure if we can be drawn against Dons/Hibs or not):

 

 

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We are seeded in round one, so the unseeded potential opponents for us in 1st round are as below (coefficient points in brackets):

 

 

 

If we win in first round, we will be seeded in second round.  Below are the unseeded teams in the second round/potential fixtures (not sure if we can be drawn against Dons/Hibs or not):

 

 

 

 

Great, thanks. I've just had a look at the teams by country and they are as follows, with the top ten nations omitted as their entrants start from QR3 or later: 

 

10: Belgium

Second qualifying round: Genk

 

11: Switzerland

Second qualifying round: Grasshoppers

 

12: Turkey

Second qualifying round: Istanbul BB

 

13: Greece

Second qualifying round: PAOK

 

14: Czech Republic

Second qualifying round: Mlada Boleslav

 

15: Romania

Second qualifying round: Viitorul

 

16: Austria

First qualifying round: Austria Wien

Second qualifying round: Rapid Wien

 

17: Croatia

First qualifying round: Hadjuk Split

Second qualifying round: Rijeka

 

18: Cyprus

First qualifying round: AEK Larnaca, Apollon

 

19: Poland

First qualifying round: Zag??bie Lubin, Pogon Szczecin

Second qualifying round: Piast Gliwice

 

20: Israel

First qualifying round: Maccabi Tel Aviv, Beitar Jerusalem

Second qualifying round: Maccabi Haifa

 

21: Belarus

First qualifying round: Dinamo Minsk, Shakhtyor

Second qualifying round: Torpedo-BelAZ Zhodino

22: Denmark

First qualifying round: Midtjylland, Brondby

Second qualifying round: Sonderjyske

 

23: Scotland

First qualifying round: HEART OF MIDLOTHIAN, Aberdeen

Second qualifying round: Hibernian

 

24: Sweden

First qualifying round: IFK Goteburg, AIK

Second qualifying round: BK Hacken

 

25: Bulgaria

First qualifying round: Levski Sofia, Beroe

Second qualifying round: CSKA Sofia

 

26: Norway

First qualifying round: Stabaek, Odd

Second qualifying round: Stromsgodset

 

27: Serbia

First qualifying round: Cukaricki, Borac Cacak

Second qualifying round: Partizan

 

28: Slovenia

First qualifying round: Domzale, Gorica

Second qualifying round: Maribor

 

29: Azerbaijan

First qualifying round: Qabala, Inter Baku

Second qualifying round: Zira

 

30: Slovakia

First qualifying round: Slovan Bratislava, Spartak Myjava, Spartak Trnava

 

31: Hungary

First qualifying round: Videoton, Debrecen, MTK

 

32: Kazakhstan

First qualifying round: Aktobe, Astana, Atyrau

 

33: Moldova

First qualifying round: Sheriff Tiraspol, Zimbru, Zaria

 

34: Georgia

First qualifying round: Samtredia, Dila, Chikhura

 

35: Finland

First qualifying round: Mariehamn, Ilves, PS Kemi

 

36: Iceland

First qualifying round: Valur. Breidablik, KR

 

37: Bosnia and Herzegovina

First qualifying round: Radek Bijeljina, Siroki Brijeg, Sloboda Tuzia

 

38: Liechtenstein

First qualifying round: Vaduz

 

39: FYR Macedonia

First qualifying round: Shkendija, Sileks, Rabotnicki

 

40: Republic of Ireland

First qualifying round: Cork City, Shamrock Rovers, St Patrick?s Athletic

 

41: Montenegro

First qualifying round: Buducnost Podogorica, Rudar Pljevlja, Bokelj

 

42: Albania

First qualifying round: Kukesi, Tueta Durres, Tirana

 

43: Luxemburg

First qualifying round: Fola Esch, Differdange 03, Jeunesse Esch

 

44: Northern Ireland

First qualifying round: Linfield, Glenavon, Cliftonville

 

45: Lithuania

First qualifying round: Trakai, Atlantas, Suduva Marijampole

 

46: Latvia

First qualifying round: Ventspils, Jelgava, Spartaks Jurmala

 

47: Malta

First qualifying round: Hibernians, Birkirkara, Balzan

 

48: Estonia

First qualifying round: Levadia Tallinn, Nomme Kalju, Infonet Tallinn

 

49: Faroe Islands

First qualifying round: NSI Runavik, Vikingur Gota, HB Torshavn

 

50: Wales

First qualifying round: Bala Town, Llandudno, Connah?s Quay Nomads

 

51: Armenia

First qualifying round: Shirak, Pyunik, Banants

 

52: Andorra

First qualifying round: Lusitanos, UE Santa Coloma

 

53: San Marino

First qualifying round: La Fiorita, Folgore

 

54: Gibraltar

First qualifying round: Europa FC

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I'm confused...I thought we were definitely away from home first leg?

No........... but we are seeded for rounds 1 and 2 (providing of course we qualify from round 1)

 

Draw on Monday 20th lunchtime for both of the opening rounds.

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Really excited for this - with a bit of luck I'll be able to make the first leg away.

 

Tallinn, any Maltese team, Gibralter or the Faroes for me.

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Midloth_Iain

Hibernians of Malta please.

 

Wonder if they wear that disgusting colour.

 

no green in sight.

 

white & black - home

 

yellow & black - away

 

 

.... have a feeling we will be headed for Scandinavia somewhere.

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Read several times that teams are split into groups day before draw so each team has 7 or 8 potential opponents they could be drawn against, anyone know when these groups get released?

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Ricardo Quaresma

If we get to QR3 & beat a team with a 14-16 co-efficient, we take their co-efficient into the next round & we will be seeded for the final qualifying round; how cool would that be; it's the best we can hope for :)

 

 

 

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Romanov Stole My Pension

What are the possible reasons for the home/away legs being switched?

 

Is anyone able to give a list of teams that could be switched?

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Ricardo Quaresma

What are the possible reasons for the home/away legs being switched?

 

Is anyone able to give a list of teams that could be switched?

 

If 2 teams from same City OR within 30 miles of each other are drawn at home. the team with lower co-efficient gets moved; happened with Fulham when we drew spurs

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Hearts Heritage

If 2 teams from same City OR within 30 miles of each other are drawn at home. the team with lower co-efficient gets moved; happened with Fulham when we drew spurs

 

Happended when we played Stuttgart IIRC.

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Ricardo Quaresma

Happended when we played Stuttgart IIRC.

 

But we played them away first, Davy, so  which team were moved? Their neighbours?

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Worth noting its not listed on tv for coverage (sometimes eurosport had the draws but probably only later stages)

 

However uefa.com is going to stream the draw live.

12 noon for the 1st round (us and sheep)

1.30 for the 2nd round (wee team and HOPEFULLY us/sheep)

 

Also

If u download the app, dont get a Hearts attack when you set us as the favourite.team, still lists mcglynn as coach ffs

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Jambo dans les Pyrenees

Worth noting its not listed on tv for coverage (sometimes eurosport had the draws but probably only later stages)

 

However uefa.com is going to stream the draw live.

12 noon for the 1st round (us and sheep)

1.30 for the 2nd round (wee team and HOPEFULLY us/sheep)

 

Also

If u download the app, dont get a Hearts attack when you set us as the favourite.team, still lists mcglynn as coach ffs

 

Great thanks.  About 12.45 for the massive rise in Ryanair/Easyjet flights to wherever we get drawn, setting up 10 pages of "what's the best/cheapest way to get to x" on JKB.

 

Love the Euro draws!

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Hearts Heritage

But we played them away first, Davy, so  which team were moved? Their neighbours?

 

One of our members who had meetings with staff in Germany booked the meetings and flights when the draw was first made. So they were in Edinburgh for the first leg and Germany for the second. Not sure why the change was made.  

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Ferryjambo99

If we get to QR3 & beat a team with a 14-16 co-efficient, we take their co-efficient into the next round & we will be seeded for the final qualifying round; how cool would that be; it's the best we can hope for :)

 

 

 

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I might be completely wrong but I think the coefficient carrying over thing stops at round 3.

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I haven't seen anything regarding the group of 5/6 teams we could be drawn against yet. I'm in Spain just now so might not see the draw. A summary of the draw on here will be appreciated.

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Ricardo Quaresma

I might be completely wrong but I think the coefficient carrying over thing stops at round 3.

 

Now you mention it, think you might be right there; seem to remember some limitation to it

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Ricardo Quaresma

I might be completely wrong but I think the coefficient carrying over thing stops at round 3.

 

 

Now you mention it, think you might be right there; seem to remember some limitation to it

 

This is from Uefa:

 

"The UEFA administration seeds clubs for the qualifying phase, the play-offs and

the group stage, in accordance with the club coefficient rankings established at
the beginning of the season (see Annex D) and with the principles set by the Club
Competitions Committee. If, for any unforeseen reason, any of the participants in
such rounds are not known at the time of the draw, the coefficient of the club
with the higher coefficient of the two clubs involved in an undecided tie will be

used for the purposes of the draw"

 

 

 

As the first 2 rounds are drawn simultaneously, the teams are unknown, so the higher number is used

 

All teams should be known for the play-off round, unless a deluge prevents Tynecastle from from being able to stage a match, causing a delay, therefore the tie winner to 'not be known' in time for the play-off round draw :lol:

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  • FIRST QUALIFYING ROUND (matches 30 June & 7 July)

 

Entries

 

  • 96 clubs enter in the first qualifying round.

 

Seedings

 

  • Teams ranked according to their coefficient and further split into seeding groups prior to the draw.

The groupings for the second qualifying round are made after the first qualifying round draw. The balls representing the winners of each first qualifying round tie took the coefficient of the seeded club in each tie.

 

Draw procedure

 

  • Each side in each seeding group is allocated a number. Balls containing the seeded numbers are placed in one bowl, with balls for the unseeded numbers in the same group positioned in another.

A ball is taken from each bowl and put into a large empty bowl in the middle, where they are shuffled. 

The clubs whose numbers correspond to the first ball drawn play their first game at home, against the teams whose numbers match the next ball drawn.

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That's a very good selection of countries to travel to. Estonia my preference. Wales would be okay too.

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August Landmesser

That's a very good selection of countries to travel to. Estonia my preference. Wales would be okay too.

I was hoping for Cork city in R2, I'm over there for a wedding around the time of the R2 second leg.

 

Ah well, Wales would be fine too

 

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Wales or Ireland please

 

Easy tie to get players up to scratch then eastern europe round two

 

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I was there 2 years ago, I'll post as much info about Tallinn as I can. There's a big square which would be perfect for a Hearts gathering pre-game. If Infonet are going to play their Europa games at Levadia's ground, it may be moved to a Wednesday as the other 2 Estonian Europa teams play there also. Pretty sure I read their stadium only holds 400.

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Would have loved a trip to Tallinn but given that I can only get the Thursday off work for the first leg and have a wedding in Ireland the day after the second, I'm hoping our tie gets switched so that I can at least make the Tynecastle match on the 30th.

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The name of the square in Tallinn is 'Raekoja Plats', it's 10 minutes in a taxi to the National Stadium, 30 minute walk. From what I remember, taxis are reasonable, some are different prices, the fares are in the window of the taxis, prices per km etc. ask the fare before you travel.

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So when do we find out if the game in Tallinn is getting switched or not?

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Hartleys_Jam_Tart

So when do we find out if the game in Tallinn is getting switched or not?

 

I'd read 1530 but obviously that wasn't the case. Hopefully in the next hour 

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the stone rose

Club statement says trying to get confirmation this afternoon. However as i understood it, it will be tomorrow. Could be wrong though.

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Getintaethem

I'd read 1530 but obviously that wasn't the case. Hopefully in the next hour

 

Better get those dates switched bud.

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Switched to Tynecastle 30th June

 

 

nice one, I can make it now.

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Jambo in Yorkshire

Not seen this mentioned but none of the Scottish teams will be seeded in round 3, if Hibs beat Brondby the co-efficient isn't high enough.

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Not seen this mentioned but none of the Scottish teams will be seeded in round 3, if Hibs beat Brondby the co-efficient isn't high enough.

Yeah it's a near impossibility for any to be seeded. Even if hibs beat Brondby and took their co-efficient they would need 16 out of 22 teams with higher co-efficiently to be knocked out.

 

Statto you might know... if you beat a seeded team in 3rd round do you take their coefficient for 4th or is that only between 2nd and 3rd rounds?

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Yeah it's a near impossibility for any to be seeded. Even if hibs beat Brondby and took their co-efficient they would need 16 out of 22 teams with higher co-efficiently to be knocked out.

 

Statto you might know... if you beat a seeded team in 3rd round do you take their coefficient for 4th or is that only between 2nd and 3rd rounds?

 

It's only until the 3rd round. The Play off round draw takes place after the 3rd round 2nd leg so all teams have their own coefficient for that round.

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