Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Equivalently successful? Well here's the last 4 seasons in which Hibs have actually finished above Hearts in the league: 07-08 Hearts 15,930 Hibs 13,754 09-10 Hearts 14,484 Hibs 12,164 12-13 Hearts 13,163 Hibs 10,489 13-14 Hearts 14,123 Hibs 11,027 So we have roughly 20% larger average attendances, even when we're doing worse than them. So he's right, we don't get "anything like" their support - we get much more. He'll just claim he saw empty seats on the telly and Hearts are lying about our attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Equivalently successful? Well here's the last 4 seasons in which Hibs have actually finished above Hearts in the league: 07-08 Hearts 15,930 Hibs 13,754 09-10 Hearts 14,484 Hibs 12,164 12-13 Hearts 13,163 Hibs 10,489 13-14 Hearts 14,123 Hibs 11,027 So we have roughly 20% larger average attendances, even when we're doing worse than them. So he's right, we don't get "anything like" their support - we get much more. these guys are on the crystal surely, it's not even worth dignifying their view by debating the subject, one glance at the record books will show that Hibernian are not, and have never matched the attendances of HMFC on anything more than an exceptional basis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 these guys are on the crystal surely, it's not even worth dignifying their view by debating the subject, one glance at the record books will show that Hibernian are not, and have never matched the attendances of HMFC on anything more than an exceptional basis The 07/08 one was even on the back of them winning the League Cup FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Equivalently successful? Well here's the last 4 seasons in which Hibs have actually finished above Hearts in the league: 07-08 Hearts 15,930 Hibs 13,754 09-10 Hearts 14,484 Hibs 12,164 12-13 Hearts 13,163 Hibs 10,489 13-14 Hearts 14,123 Hibs 11,027 So we have roughly 20% larger average attendances, even when we're doing worse than them. So he's right, we don't get "anything like" their support - we get much more. Mere league points are nothing compared to footballing aesthetics Hackney. Typical philistine Yam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat_RPG Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 There's clearly not enough PHM when compared to Dortmund. BBC Sporf ?@BBCSporf 3h3 hours ago AMAZING: Out of the 55,000 season tickets on offer at Dortmund, only 93 weren't renewed for next season. Superb fans! BBC sporf is a parody account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 BBC sporf is a parody account. Doesn't make the story any less true though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinder Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 How many ST have we sold TODAY dot counters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 How many ST have we sold TODAY dot counters?You will need to go on to isleepwithmysister.net for the true number, as Hearts and everyone on here is lying, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neiljb Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 at the moment there are the following availability by single seats / seats together single seats = 443 2 together x 103 (206 seats) 3 x 31 (93 seats) 4 x 10 (40 seats) 5 x 8 (40 seats) 6 x 4 (24 seats) 7 x 1 8 x 4 9 x 1 10 x 1 that count leaves 904 available Exquisite detail. Bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 How many ST have we sold TODAY dot counters? Fewer than 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janbo1874 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Fewer than 30. Anything from now on is really a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The myth of hearts having a bigger support than hibs? Myth? MYTH? MMMMMYYYTTTHHHHHHH????!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Goldstone Wonder Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Something odd has happened to my transaction. I bought a season ticket in N3 on Monday on the website on my debit card from my current account. I got an email confirming the transaction, and the seat I'd paid for, and I'm sure I checked my bank account to confirm it had come out. Today the money doesn't appear to have come out of my account or has gone back in. Has this happened to anyone else? I'm with the Clydesdale so it's not related to the RBS glitch which was reported today, at my end anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstone Wonder Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 that's brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot since 86 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Something odd has happened to my transaction. I bought a season ticket in N3 on Monday on the website on my debit card from my current account. I got an email confirming the transaction, and the seat I'd paid for, and I'm sure I checked my bank account to confirm it had come out. Today the money doesn't appear to have come out of my account or has gone back in. Has this happened to anyone else? I'm with the Clydesdale so it's not related to the RBS glitch which was reported today, at my end anyway.The transaction comes through as an authorisation ( shows as card authorisation and the amount) to check you have the money. The merchant will then complete that part of the transaction and it will disappear from your statement. The merchant then has a second part to complete (usually takes up to a couple of days) then it will debit the account properly and show with the retailers name. It happens with every purchase through a Clydesdale account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjambo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstone Wonder Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The transaction comes through as an authorisation ( shows as card authorisation and the amount) to check you have the money. The merchant will then complete that part of the transaction and it will disappear from your statement. The merchant then has a second part to complete (usually takes up to a couple of days) then it will debit the account properly and show with the retailers name. It happens with every purchase through a Clydesdale account. Thanks. Will keep an eye on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Wonder if its possible to ask ST holders who are on their own to move to single seats ? Wouldn't bother me as long as it was in same area Might be some options for people to be ask whether they mind a 'shift along' if there are two singles near each other in a row I'm sure there's at least a few places where there are two single seats available separated by only one occupied seat. I'm sure the person in question would be willing to move along a seat in most cases if the pair either side were bought by two folk together. If not, they'd probably be willing after a few minutes of the two folk either side constantly talking past him to each other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'm sure there's at least a few places where there are two single seats available separated by only one occupied seat. I'm sure the person in question would be willing to move along a seat in most cases if the pair either side were bought by two folk together. If not, they'd probably be willing after a few minutes of the two folk either side constantly talking past him to each other! PHM are concentrating on the game, not chattering ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 "Wow, I don't know what to say, but it was really a team effort, Queen Anne. Without the support of my backroom team at Jambos Kickback - and a special shout out to Footballfirst - I wouldn't be here accepting this award. This is for all of you guys. And I'd like to make a special mention to Clerry Jambo - Clerry - you're my inspiration. Thank you, and good night." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Who is Anne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjambo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 "Wow, I don't know what to say, but it was really a team effort, Queen Anne. Without the support of my backroom team at Jambos Kickback - and a special shout out to Footballfirst - I wouldn't be here accepting this award. This is for all of you guys. And I'd like to make a special mention to Clerry Jambo - Clerry - you're my inspiration. Thank you, and good night." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinhay21 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Celtic apart; are there any teams that could afford to turn Hearts fans away? Did you see the amount of empty seats ay Celtic park all season? They closed off the top tear of one of there stands for all but European games! They could do with a few more bums on seats too! Clubs cutting allocations out of spite Should go out of business. Anne said it all along, will only cut it if we buy them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjambo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Who is Ann? The one in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The Harp Awakes poston Hibs.net is a belter "the great Tynie myth of having a bigger support than Hibs. They think if they say it so often it's a fact. Edinburgh is divided right down the middle and there's nothing between the size of the respective supports. They count their home attendances differently which enhances their figures and they've been on the crest of a wave since avoiding oblivion and gaining promotion which has naturally boosted their ST sales. If we get promoted next season I reckon our average home support in 16/17 will be bigger than the jumbos." They'll never have a bigger support than us, never. It's like masochism isn't it.....good grief ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 "Wow, I don't know what to say, but it was really a team effort, Queen Anne. Without the support of my backroom team at Jambos Kickback - and a special shout out to Footballfirst - I wouldn't be here accepting this award. This is for all of you guys. And I'd like to make a special mention to Clerry Jambo - Clerry - you're my inspiration. Thank you, and good night." Totally deserved Jalbo, you are the new breed of counters that will carry on the fine tradition with class and dedication but more importantly stick 2 fingers up to the "counters haters".......well done again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Totally deserved Jalbo, you are the new breed of counters that will carry on the fine tradition with class and dedication but more importantly stick 2 fingers up to the "counters haters".......well done again ...I was hoping to retire....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Who is Anne? She's fine. Hoo's yirsel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 "Anne" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Did you see the amount of empty seats ay Celtic park all season? They closed off the top tear of one of there stands for all but European games! They could do with a few more bums on seats too! Clubs cutting allocations out of spite Should go out of business. Anne said it all along, will only cut it if we buy them! Anne Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 "Anne" Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Equivalently successful? Well here's the last 4 seasons in which Hibs have actually finished above Hearts in the league: 07-08 Hearts 15,930 Hibs 13,754 09-10 Hearts 14,484 Hibs 12,164 12-13 Hearts 13,163 Hibs 10,489 13-14 Hearts 14,123 Hibs 11,027 So we have roughly 20% larger average attendances, even when we're doing worse than them. So he's right, we don't get "anything like" their support - we get much more. Thinm he was comparing attendances before Mercer and our overspending. Rather than the years they finished above us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve444 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 This has got to be twice what the hobbos have sold lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Totally deserved Jalbo, you are the new breed of counters that will carry on the fine tradition with class and dedication but more importantly stick 2 fingers up to the "counters haters".......well done again Indeed, that image of ms budge with a thank you will shut a lot of people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 and, to make them feel really at home, we could put in tv monitors that only have half a screen working. Genuine question, but what's the legal bare minimum that we have to give them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Hibs have had a better average home crowd than Hearts in 21 seasons Hearts better than Hibs in 94 seasons.Only once since 1983 have Hibs had the better. http://londonhearts.com/scores/misc/hhhlcrowds.html If you exclude Derbies and Old Firm games It is 99 Hearts 16 Hibs. http://londonhearts.com/scores/misc/hhhlcrowdsexderbyof.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The difference of 5826 from last season was the highest since 1985-86 (7062) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hearts Heritage Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Home League Averages Season Hearts Hibs Difference1893-94 5444 1937 35071894-95 6166 1714 44521895-96 7833 4555 32781896-97 6222 5988 2341897-98 5888 6222 -3341898-99 7611 5777 18341899-00 6411 5866 5451900-01 5300 5410 -1101901-02 6444 6277 1671902-03 6409 7200 -7911903-04 8015 4875 31401904-05 6269 4484 17851905-06 7633 5466 21671906-07 5835 5529 3061907-08 8647 5852 27951908-09 7794 6205 15891909-10 7852 5352 25001910-11 9029 6058 29711911-12 10529 6323 42061912-13 10676 6264 44121913-14 13131 8078 50531914-15 11136 5394 57421915-16 7631 4421 32101916-17 6289 4368 19211917-18 7500 5882 16181918-19 9735 6470 32651919-20 16223 11190 50331920-21 17928 10714 72141921-22 17071 11619 54521922-23 17105 13631 34741923-24 16263 10263 60001924-25 17815 13842 39731925-26 18368 13289 50791926-27 17026 12342 46841927-28 16763 10894 58691928-29 18868 8736 101321929-30 16736 8131 86051930-31 17894 9052 88421931-32 15449 4210 112391932-33 16133 6558 95751933-34 14400 11263 31371934-35 18654 10370 82841935-36 18362 10068 82941936-37 20087 11340 87471937-38 20172 11163 90091938-39 18308 12894 54141946-47 19309 24225 -49161947-48 23624 27950 -43261948-49 28014 27266 7481949-50 27324 29156 -18321950-51 23917 27998 -40811951-52 25238 30700 -54621952-53 22377 29800 -74231953-54 26247 22020 42271954-55 23133 22825 3081955-56 23588 20224 33641956-57 23882 18176 57061957-58 24158 20188 39701958-59 21470 14617 68531959-60 23058 16558 65001960-61 20294 15470 48241961-62 13827 9762 40651962-63 12778 9095 36831963-64 13834 11714 21201964-65 16785 13860 29251965-66 12109 11954 1551966-67 10241 12796 -25551967-68 11228 11959 -7311968-69 11546 11205 3411969-70 12475 13615 -11401970-71 11667 10541 11261971-72 11196 14057 -28611972-73 10261 16100 -58391973-74 11732 14339 -26071974-75 12224 13720 -14961975-76 12676 13796 -11201976-77 11716 10003 17131977-78 9862 9646 2161978-79 10886 9794 10921979-80 5733 9564 -38311980-81 7758 4460 32981981-82 5157 7485 -23281982-83 5912 7108 -11961983-84 11914 8333 35811984-85 11304 7425 38791985-86 16196 9134 70621986-87 14498 9140 53581987-88 16633 11565 50681988-89 15367 13896 14711989-90 15693 10705 49881990-91 13231 9257 39741991-92 13317 9841 34761992-93 9829 8790 10391993-94 11018 9718 13001994-95 10123 8754 13691995-96 12077 9795 22821996-97 12349 10480 18691997-98 15337 12029 33081998-99 14183 10433 37501999-00 14246 12069 21772000-01 12773 10792 19812001-02 12080 11587 4932002-03 12036 10162 18742003-04 11961 9127 28342004-05 12272 12539 -2672005-06 16770 13817 29532006-07 16888 14488 24002007-08 15921 13959 19622008-09 14397 12684 17132009-10 14484 12164 23202010-11 14227 11672 25552011-12 13381 9909 34722012-13 13163 10489 26742013-14 14123 11027 30962014-15 15984 10158 5826 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve444 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Where do London Hearts get all them stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat_RPG Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Doesn't make the story any less true though Yep, sorry thought it was a wind-up because it was from that account. Very impressive from Dortmund indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Thinm he was comparing attendances before Mercer and our overspending. Rather than the years they finished above us. He made the Mercer comment, but then followed it up with - "A successful Hearts has never gotten anything like the support of an equivalently successful Hibs". "Never" apparently. Before or after Mercer. And the trouble is, it's quite hard to find a 'successful Hibs' (hence my use of relative league positions) - you have to go back to the early 50s really. And they did get big average crowds then because they had that huge terracing and could get 65,000 when Hearts came to visit (and not far off for OF visits). Whichever way you look at it, the statement he made is clearly bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Correct me if I'm wrong but did the aesthetes no get their biggest league crowd in over 20 years under Butcher, whose team were eye bleedingly awful to watch, because they thought they'd pump us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Hibs have had a better average home crowd than Hearts in 21 seasons Hearts better than Hibs in 94 seasons. Only once since 1983 have Hibs had the better. http://londonhearts.com/scores/misc/hhhlcrowds.html If you exclude Derbies and Old Firm games It is 99 Hearts 16 Hibs. http://londonhearts.com/scores/misc/hhhlcrowdsexderbyof.html Sort of confirms what I always thought . That Hibs gates in the old ER stadium were inflated by the size of the ground being able to hold thousands upon thousands of OF and Hearts fans when these teams went to ER to play Hibs. The place was massive . I remember the OF bringing about 25000 through to ER. They brought a lot of fans to Tynecastle as well but not so many as our ground was smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Ten years of leaving them behind? A decade of outperforming them, culminating in their extended stay in the first division. Shite times for a Hibs fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Watch the You Tube clip of Rangers winning the league at ER in 1975. The place is packed full of Rangers fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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