Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Wasn't expecting that. Poor old Jose. After all of the victories and prep, he's reduced to 15 seconds. Conor did say that he would embarrass him. He was spot on. So, what next? Aldo v Conor and Holm v Rousey at UFC 200? McGregor to fight Edgar just to tie up all of the loose ends at Featherweight? Conor to move up a weight and start pushing the lightweights? He's obviously got to fight Aldo again IMO. Aldo has 100% earned it. It'll also set Aldo up for life when he retires. If a fight is close you could make a case for a rematch. It was a demolition job. Edgar v McGregor next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 If a fight is close you could make a case for a rematch. It was a demolition job. Edgar v McGregor next. I'd say Weidman v Rockhold was a demolition job. Aldo just made a stupid mistake and never got a chance to get into the fight. He deserves another shot I think. Looks like it might not happen anyway. Bloody Elbow suggesting that Conor will not cut to 145 ever again as it takes too much out of him and he might get first shot at the winner of Cowboy v RDA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartex Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Don't often watch ufc but was thinking about staying up for that last night - glad i didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 UFC is undoubtedly entertaining, but I think they are all a bit thick.. Look how Aldo opened himself up for that punch.. Flailing wildly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Holy **** Aldo was beat before he entered the ring.I take all the doubt back Conor is the real deal but the fight was won before it started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 No doubt about it Conor is a superstar.He dismantle Aldo from the moment the fight was first made.Aldo was a mental mess entering that ring and i dont think a rematch is wise other than a payday for Aldo is the mind games will be ramped up even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Edgar v Conor for me has to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The guy is unreal i just watched Conor take the post fight press conference himself.All the other fighters left the stage and Conor just held audience no Dana or anybody else there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Said there is no way he is vacating his belt he will have two on his shoulders. Will win the lightweight then defend his featherweight and then beat the number 1 at featherweight and again defend at lightweight. http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/12/13/10021252/ufc-194-post-fight-press-conference-video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Boxing is an art. Ufc is a street fight. Always will be like that. When you get boxing matches like yesterday it is a joy to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Aye you're always seeing boys fighting in the street pulling out the gold medal level jujitsu... Last nights main card (and the prelims) showcased pretty much every facet of mixed martial arts. Edited December 13, 2015 by audioslave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Boxing is an art. Ufc is a street fight. Always will be like that. When you get boxing matches like yesterday it is a joy to watch. Too few and far between though now great boxing bouts.I do agree though a classic boxing bout is great to watch and stiking match is never high level in mma no matter what Joe Rogan tells you but it has that unpridictability that boxing does not. I prefer mma now but i am probbaly biased as i did martial arts from a kid into my teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Aye you're always seeing boys fighting in the street pulling out the gold medal level jujitsu... Last nights main card (and the prelims) showcased pretty much every facet of mixed martial arts. First time for ages i actually watched the prelims as well was really impressed with Santos in the Lee fight crazy he was a 4/1 underdog.And Damian Maia put on a masterclass. Edited December 13, 2015 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Goodnight, Jose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 It's hard to deny Frankie a shot now? How about Conor v winner of Cowboy & Dos Anjos at 155. Same card, Aldo v Frankie. Conor comes back down to fight the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) It's hard to deny Frankie a shot now? How about Conor v winner of Cowboy & Dos Anjos at 155. Same card, Aldo v Frankie. Conor comes back down to fight the winner. Nah Frankie v Holloway on the undercard to Conor v the winner of the Cowboy fight at Croke park with Conor to fight the winner of the Edgar fight whatever happens. Win win and mega bucks for the UFC imo I do think Edgar deserves his shot at Conor though but the big promotion now is surely Conor going for two belts at Croke Park. Edited December 13, 2015 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Might be wrong, but I'm sure Conor mentioned recently he is contracted to the MGM for x amount of fights and didn't see himself fighting in Ireland anytime soon. Perhaps a way around that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi123 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Yeh, watching aldo entering the cage and waiting,he looked like a kid waiting outside the headmasters office,was unreal how nervous he looked for a champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Might be wrong, but I'm sure Conor mentioned recently he is contracted to the MGM for x amount of fights and didn't see himself fighting in Ireland anytime soon. Perhaps a way around that though. He said in the press conference that it was up to the UFC but then said maybe after tonight i might get to decide more and we shall see after the year.The guy is box office just now though he could most probably sell out Croke Park and break all gate receipt records.Other than that he has to have lept to the front of the queue to headline the new Arena in Vegas for UFC 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 How do we see Edgar V McGregor going? Find it hard to bet against Conor now. Although Frankie really has my respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Doubt Edgar would last as long as Chad Mendes but longer than Aldo. I probably wouldn't give him much of a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Doubt Edgar would last as long as Chad Mendes but longer than Aldo. I probably wouldn't give him much of a chance. based on what? Whilst I don't think Edgar would win easily, I do think he is the hardest match up for Connor. He held the belt at lightweight for long enough and cuts to the weight easier than Connor. His movement and boxing are right up there with the best in the division and his wrestling pedigree is better than mendes'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Riva Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Iv never watched UFC before today .I was looking for it on Kodi and watched a programme about McGregor then watched the aldo fight. Kin ell ! Hes a machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Who do folks think is next for Joshua? A mate of mine is convinced David Haye will beat Anthony Joshua fairly easily but I'm not sure where he's getting that from. Who has Haye ever really beaten in the heavyweight division? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomuzz Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Who do folks think is next for Joshua? A mate of mine is convinced David Haye will beat Anthony Joshua fairly easily but I'm not sure where he's getting that from. Who has Haye ever really beaten in the heavyweight division?valuev or whatever his name is. now i know that hes not the most technically gifted. but anyone that size is going to be tough to beat, and haye done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 valuev or whatever his name is. now i know that hes not the most technically gifted. but anyone that size is going to be tough to beat, and haye done that.I watched that fight and tbh I've seen his fights with Klitscko, Chisora and Fraudley and Haye has never impressed me. Valuev is an absolute donkey that got where he was due to his sheer size. Haye was one of the slightly better ones in a horrendous bunch of heavyweights for me. I just can't see him beating Joshua tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 valuev or whatever his name is. now i know that hes not the most technically gifted. but anyone that size is going to be tough to beat, and haye done that. David Haye is 35 now and hasnt fought for 3 and half years. He has had some serious injuries as well. Haye was an excellent cruiser weight boxer and did well as a heavyweight but he is well past his best and couldnt defeat Klichtko. Joshua would tear Hayes arsehole sideways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masonic Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1IFt0gglsQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Dont think there was any need for the UFC to release the post fight footage from Aldo's dressing room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Dont think there was any need for the UFC to release the post fight footage from Aldo's dressing room. Can't think why on earth they chose to do that. Pretty heartbreaking to see. As soon as he hit the deck, instead of feeling happy for the winner, I just felt totally gutted for Aldo. He's a born winner, a legend of the sport and immensely proud. Can't even begin to imagine the way he's feeling right now. Same when Chad Mendes got lit up so quickly. Felt gutted for the boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Who do folks think is next for Joshua? A mate of mine is convinced David Haye will beat Anthony Joshua fairly easily but I'm not sure where he's getting that from. Who has Haye ever really beaten in the heavyweight division? I reckon chisora would be a decent bet. He's a guy he should beat but he's taken some decent fighters the distance. For me the onus should be on David Haye to prove he's still good enough. No coincidence he's only announced his comeback now that it looks like Wladimir Klitschko's days are numbered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Can't think why on earth they chose to do that. Pretty heartbreaking to see. As soon as he hit the deck, instead of feeling happy for the winner, I just felt totally gutted for Aldo. He's a born winner, a legend of the support and immensely proud. Can't even begin to imagine the way he's feeling right now. Same when Chad Mendes got lit up so quickly. Felt gutted for the boy. Who knows but I imagine the fighters know, win or lose it might be released. It's not like if it was a player crying his eyes out losing the WC final they'd pan away. It's gutting for him but at the end of the day it's a competitive sport and he was easily beaten. It's all about Conor now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I reckon chisora would be a decent bet. He's a guy he should beat but he's taken some decent fighters the distance. For me the onus should be on David Haye to prove he's still good enough. No coincidence he's only announced his comeback now that it looks like Wladimir Klitschko's days are numbered To be fair to Haye he is fighting a higher ranked fighter on his return than anyone AJ has beaten to date. If he wins he'll have proven that he is still a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Jambo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Who do folks think is next for Joshua? A mate of mine is convinced David Haye will beat Anthony Joshua fairly easily but I'm not sure where he's getting that from. Who has Haye ever really beaten in the heavyweight division? I wouldn't fancy Haye at the moment given he hasn't fought for 3.5 years and if his speed has gone then he we will be in big trouble against any big hitting heavyweight as his speed was his main defence. But if he hasn't regressed then he would cause Joshua big problems at the moment. The Haye of 3.5 years ago wouldn't be going life and death with domestic operators like Dillan Whyte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 To be fair to Haye he is fighting a higher ranked fighter on his return than anyone AJ has beaten to date. If he wins he'll have proven that he is still a contender.Who's he fighting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Jambo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Who's he fighting? Mark De Mori. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Anyone been reading about the rumours of a big rift between Conor and the Fertitta brothers? All stems from a video where you can see "Uncle Frank" slam the belt at the KO. Can find it if you Google I'm sure. It's pretty difficult to tell anything I think but interesting to see if anything comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Anyone been reading about the rumours of a big rift between Conor and the Fertitta brothers? All stems from a video where you can see "Uncle Frank" slam the belt at the KO. Can find it if you Google I'm sure. It's pretty difficult to tell anything I think but interesting to see if anything comes out. A few articles I read suggest the brothers had a fairly large wager on the fight which Frank lost. However, Conor supposedly blanked one of them at the weigh in so their could be more to it. Edited December 15, 2015 by Gavsy Van Gaverson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 A few articles I read suggest the brothers had a fairly large wager on the fight which Frank lost. However, Conor supposedly blanked one of them at the weigh in so their could be more to it. Had read that as well actually. Apparently just before the lights go out for Aldo entering Conor bows his head at both them and they bow back so suggests the bet thing could be it. Dana missing post fight press gig was strange admittedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Whats this about Jon Jones in talks to sign with TMT. Is Mayweather going to set up a rival to UFC? I think quite a few might be ready to jump ship if so as the Reebok deal has upset a lot of fighters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Had read that as well actually. Apparently just before the lights go out for Aldo entering Conor bows his head at both them and they bow back so suggests the bet thing could be it. Dana missing post fight press gig was strange admittedly. Looks like it could all be down to money http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/sraftery/video-ufc-owner-strangely-slams-down-title-belt-as-conor-mcgregor-kos-jose-aldo/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Reading about the Conor stuff now seeminly he is looking to renegotiate his contract and wants $20m a fight. They really gave the guy to much power if true and its coming back to bite them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This from a couple of months ago. He wants paid for fights he isnt even involved in.Of course it could all just be bluster and a soundbite. http://www.mmaweekly.com/conor-mcgregor-claims-to-be-highest-paid-wants-100-million-plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Reading about the Conor stuff now seeminly he is looking to renegotiate his contract and wants $20m a fight. They really gave the guy to much power if true and its coming back to bite them. Obviously none of us really know the details but the UFC are notorious (excuse the pun ha) for being quite brutal with money to fighters. They have a guy in Conor though who won't accept it. I wouldn't be surprised if their real fear isn't in giving McGregor what he wants but actually how it might embolden the other fighters to stand up a bit and ask for their fair share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Only a matter of time before somebody demanded a bit more. Like him or not he's the face and mouth of the UFC just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Cowboy on Conor http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/12/15/10223790/ufc-on-fox-cerrone-not-impressed-with-p-ssy-conor-mcgregor-and-his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Joe Rogan calling Aldo a drug cheat https://youtu.be/X4ZtiC3izkk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Joe Rogan calling Aldo a drug cheat https://youtu.be/X4ZtiC3izkk He quite clearly deliberately doesn't call him a drug cheat. He did talk about some incidents that suggest that might have been the case but he doesn't accuse him of anything. He was obviously being careful with what he was saying so that he can deny calling him a drug cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 He quite clearly deliberately doesn't call him a drug cheat. He did talk about some incidents that suggest that might have been the case but he doesn't accuse him of anything. He was obviously being careful with what he was saying so that he can deny calling him a drug cheat. Aye i meant to type implies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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