deesidejambo Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 A bit of misinformation in the article though. "All 28 existing member states would have to reach unanimous agreement on the process a separate Scotland would have to follow and the terms on which it would join." This would be true if scotland were to apply via article 49, however there is every likelihood that Scotland would gain entry via article 48 which simply requires a majority. So, as ever there are muddied waters, but I guess it's who you believe. If Eck's been telling porkies, well, he's silly. But a YES vote isn't a vote for Eck. Anyway, my prediction.... A slim NO victory. 52/48 If YES wins then they will win large 58+ Huge turnout too. To say there is "every liklihood" of access via 48 is pushing things. This is a unique case and the underlying principles that a succession state cannot automatically remain in EU will prevail. There is no way the Spanish will allow a successtion state free ticket in based on EU statutes that were not designed to cater for all eventualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1185 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) A bit of misinformation in the article though. "All 28 existing member states would have to reach unanimous agreement on the process a separate Scotland would have to follow and the terms on which it would join." This would be true if scotland were to apply via article 49, however there is every likelihood that Scotland would gain entry via article 48 which simply requires a majority. So, as ever there are muddied waters, but I guess it's who you believe. If Eck's been telling porkies, well, he's silly. But a YES vote isn't a vote for Eck. Anyway, my prediction.... A slim NO victory. 52/48 If YES wins then they will win large 58+ Huge turnout too. But you are voting for him to lead an iScotland's EU application process. So if he's been talking crap after getting 'comfort' or whatever about that process from other member states, we need to know. I don't share your level of positivity on article 48, but will happily be proved wrong as it would make everything simpler. Edited September 17, 2014 by jambo1185 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Benoit Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Yes 51.3% No 48.7% Turnout 89.4% Give or take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 No by 3-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Really enjoyed the campaigns till the last 2 or 3 weeks. I feel very let down by the No campaign for their dour approach and carrot on a stick approach (with zero guarantees). The stories from business etc look to me have been like a negativity black hole sucking out optimism in the last week. The UK general election could well see a massive push from SNP at Westminster (Coalition support for Devo Max). I think the turnout will be around 90-91% and I suspect it's going to be 46% YES, 54% NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 My prediction before lock down? 56% no 44% yes. 82% turnout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 52.5% - No 47.5% - Yes 84% turnout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) I think its going to be an overwhelming victory for No. When it come to the crunch people will vote with their heads. No 62% Yes 38% Turnout 86% Edited September 17, 2014 by Walter Bishop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 And on a lighter note -- 09:37: Armando Ianucci tweets: Firstly, a poll asking Scots if they thought the campaign was causing divisions, 50% said No and 50% said Yes.... I can't wait to hear what frankie Boyle says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 And on a lighter note -- 09:37: Armando Ianucci tweets: Firstly, a poll asking Scots if they thought the campaign was causing divisions, 50% said No and 50% said Yes.... I can't wait to hear what frankie Boyle says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 54% No and 46% Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 51% Yes 49% No, Eck to do a 5-1 on Friday morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators JKBMod 1 Posted September 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 18, 2014 This thread will reopen shortly. This is the only thread for referendum related discussion on JKB, and posts about the referendum made elsewhere on JKB will result in warnings or possibly suspensions. Please enjoy taking a full part in the debate as the results come in, but remember we will be taking a zero tolerance approach to trolling and personal abuse on this thread. Any kind of personal abuse, personalised remarks, trolling or 'GIRUY/GIRUT' posting will result in an immediate suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1185 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 IM NERVOUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebird Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Yes vote placed, coffee drunk, I'm in for the long haul. Incredibly nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I have missed this thread so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Sounds like a busy day throughout the nation. My Yes vote has been placed. Not waiting up, working tomorrow so need my rest. Heard there has been an assault charge outside a Glasgow polling station. Wonder what happened there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Voted early doors, getting nervy now. No plans to stay up all night though, will just wake up and see what happens. Something I read earlier though, apparently if the turnout is over 80% a lot of the opinion polls are effectively void. No idea who that's good for though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Voted Yes. Was a staunch No for a long time too. Seems common. Not hearing the same the other way round. The momentum is with Yes for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Sounds like a busy day throughout the nation. My Yes vote has been placed. Not waiting up, working tomorrow so need my rest. Heard there has been an assault charge outside a Glasgow polling station. Wonder what happened there? Read something about a former St Helen's councillor (67 yr old woman) was charged earlier in Glasgow ... may have been this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Voted No early this morning. It felt good. Did anyone see Jobby Brown's speech yesterday? Absolutely inspirational. If he'd been in place of Darling BT would have absolutely horses this campaign. Edited September 18, 2014 by TheMaganator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Voted yes this morning and I'm planning to stay up all night for the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Voted No this morning however there's some favourable odds to be had on this, a straight Yes win 4/1, 50-55% @ 5/1 and a whopping 16/1 for over 55%, just stuck ten smackeroonies on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 A lot of undecided are opting no is what I'm hearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Voted No early this morning. It felt good. Did anyone see Jobby Brown's speech yesterday? Absolutely inspirational. If he'd been in place of Darling BT would have absolutely horses this campaign. my money is on him being next first minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Seeger Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I voted yes. I'm a notorious panicker and I'm feeling quite sad at the thought of the break up of Britain. I still wish Devo max had been on offer. I do think I'll be glad in the long term that I've had my little wobble after casting my vote though and not before. I blame my Granny and her wee sad eyes about the prospect of the union breaking up for my wobble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Voted Yes. Was a staunch No for a long time too. Seems common. Not hearing the same the other way round. The momentum is with Yes for me. Surprised at this tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 A lot of undecided are opting no is what I'm hearing I'm hearing the opposite tbh, and no's switching to yes. Depends who you speak to I'm sure. Going to be very close IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 A lot of undecided are opting no is what I'm hearing The undecideds will vote No IMO. The polls say the Yes camp would need all the undecideds to win this thing. It'll be a No vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 A lot of undecided are opting no is what I'm hearing was always going to happen. see quebec 1998. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 A narrow Yes win would be phenomenally entertaining! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Yes party going on up town, think I will cry tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 All no's in oil and gas Aberdeen will return a resounding no I predict. Yes can be proud anything over 45%, it's a difficult and brave thing to vote for such radical change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 According to alex Thompson ch4 Maryhill going 2/3 to Yes says a reliable source . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) I voted No but I went along to George Sq in Glasgow to see the Independence rally (or whatever it was) - it was absolutele mayhem! I definitely felt a stirring of patriotism but I think the head has got to rule the heart in matters of this importance so it didn't make me regret voting No. Edited September 18, 2014 by Jambos_1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I went to bed at 8 set my alarm for 2am. Still not slept! In for the long haul it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Seeger Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I went to bed at 8 set my alarm for 2am. Still not slept! In for the long haul it seems. Same. I had 20 minutes and realised it wasn't happening. I'm going to try again for 3-4 hours kip at 11:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm hearing the opposite tbh, and no's switching to yes. Depends who you speak to I'm sure. Going to be very close IMO. This is the sense I'm getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm hearing the opposite tbh, and no's switching to yes. Depends who you speak to I'm sure. Going to be very close IMO. Twitter is full of 'my nan was No but then she voted Yes stories'. Calling BS tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Benoit Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 A narrow Yes win would be phenomenally entertaining! Looking forward to the tears and snotters on Facebook no matter what way it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Looking forward to the tears and snotters on Facebook no matter what way it goes. Correct. There will be no trolling on here but anything goes on there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Voted No early this morning. It felt good. Did anyone see Jobby Brown's speech yesterday? Absolutely inspirational. If he'd been in place of Darling BT would have absolutely horses this campaign. Agreed, very disappointed that Brown wasn't brought in sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 According to alex Thompson ch4 Maryhill going 2/3 to Yes says a reliable source . How can that be? The polls have JUST closed? Can't be very reliable imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 All no's in oil and gas Aberdeen will return a resounding no I predict. Yes can be proud anything over 45%, it's a difficult and brave thing to vote for such radical change Not sure about that. I have two friends who work for different oil companies in Aberdeen an both are Yes. Although they maybe said that just to stop me from pestering them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 So, when is the best time to set the alarm for during the night...when the Glasgow/Edinburgh results get announced (which I think is 4am)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 So, when is the best time to set the alarm for during the night...when the Glasgow/Edinburgh results get announced (which I think is 4am)? Apparently most results are expected between 3 and 6, with Glasgow and Edinburgh closer to 6. That was a couple of days ago, so if anyone has heard differently please shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) YouGov are releasing a poll/prediction at 10.30, recontacted people today after they'd voted. Edited September 18, 2014 by Arnold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Disenfranchised down here in London I'd have voted no. I genuinely don't know how anyone could vote yes given the complete uncertainty that will exist on so many key issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Not sure about that. I have two friends who work for different oil companies in Aberdeen an both are Yes. Although they maybe said that just to stop me from pestering them! I am hugely outnumbered by mainly people living in fear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Last Poll was 53/47 No but no exit polls today. Keeps the suspense going I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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