hmfcfanyul Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Nowt happening today in the Big Case?According to James Doleman's tweet: No proceedings in HMA v Craig Whyte today as judge has another committment. Set to resume 10am tomorrow. #WhyteTrial Sent from my SM-T530NU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Kris Boyd has the answer folks - get Minty Murray back in. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/969934/rangers-david-murray-kris-boyd/ Now this little snippet from his article really shows how deluded he is. The sad thing he probably believes it. That?s not the Rangers I know. That?s not the club I grew up supporting. I was brought up being told that as a Rangers fan there was a certain way to behave. It was other clubs who did things like that, not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Getting interesting again, they have an email stating they had no ide if Whyte had the funds to run the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Yep, Findlay on fine form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Kris Boyd has the answer folks - get Minty Murray back in. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/969934/rangers-david-murray-kris-boyd/ Killie fans must be fuming. All the guy does is talk up rangers, he's a ****ing Killie player. He is a ****ing mincey coo heed of a laddie who is anything but a "professional" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Getting interesting again, they have an email stating they had no ide if Whyte had the funds to run the club Ooft, the court likes an email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Getting interesting again, they have an email stating they had no ide if Whyte had the funds to run the club Ooft, the court likes an email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Findlay. I'm warming to him. James Doleman? @jamesdoleman 12m12 minutes agoMore Findlay on ?20m investment "What's point of putting that in..is just PR window dressing" McGill "you may call it that Findlay "I just did" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 James Doleman? @jamesdoleman 4m4 minutes ago More McGill Taking over the club and not investing would be "odd" Findlay "We are not interested in what you think is odd.." James Doleman? @jamesdoleman 3m3 minutes ago More Continues "What amateur drew this up?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 James Doleman? @jamesdoleman 22s23 seconds ago More McGill agrees there was a major "health and safety issue" at Ibrox. Cites problem with Public Address system, ?1.7m within 12 months James Doleman? @jamesdoleman 21s21 seconds ago More Findlay notes "your telling the new owner he can shut half the stadium and you can't do anything about it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 James Doleman? @jamesdoleman 2m2 minutes ago More Findlay: "The obligations are qualified McGill "They are qualified by time" Findlay "Around here we call that a qualification" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts related nickname Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm enjoying this far too much. Rangers knew about ticketus being used for the deal and it would appear even suggested it. There is too much vested interest in the sale going through. Murray knew the club was going down, other directors making healthy profit from the sale. Am I the only one thinking Craigy boy is getting off with the charges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts related nickname Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Findlay giving them it hard and dry relentlessly is also quite pleasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 McGill email "We need to ensure the purchaser doesnt get any surprises..I think we need to front up on the small tax case" - Doleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Email to witness from Lawyers, 20 April 2011. "Independent committee anxious to find out no benefits to Murray they didn't know about" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm enjoying this far too much. Rangers knew about ticketus being used for the deal and it would appear even suggested it. There is too much vested interest in the sale going through. Murray knew the club was going down, other directors making healthy profit from the sale. Am I the only one thinking Craigy boy is getting off with the charges? Going to be interesting. Plenty of muck being raked up by Findlay. Still think he will be convicted of something. Lots of bums twittering though especially SDM I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Certainly no "he said, she said" when it comes to email evidence. Hopefully lots more to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Rangers table at @PFAScotland awards. "Anyone surprised we didn't show up on the big occasion clearly hasn't been watching us this season" (@oldfirmfacts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Barry Anderson? @BarryAnderson_ 2m2 minutes ago #Rangers sell 15-year-old Billy Gilmour to Chelsea for ?500k. Wish the kid well but can't help feel it's a bad move at such a young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Seen some tweets that McGill admitted Wee Tax Case was impossible to appeal in December 2010 and also admitted the Wee Tax Case 'Crystallised' in March 2011. This is the formal line from Regan that the WTC hadn't crystallised so nothing wrong with Rangers Euro License for season 2011/12. There are more people than just Whtye who should be banned from not just Scottish football but any Uefa affiliated member association. And dependent on any SFA involvement, whether Scottish football itself should have been sanctioned. Edited May 9, 2017 by DETTY29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Barry Anderson? @BarryAnderson_ 2m2 minutes ago #Rangers sell 15-year-old Billy Gilmour to Chelsea for ?500k. Wish the kid well but can't help feel it's a bad move at such a young age. Must be a bill to be met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 BBC's Henderson: DF You sold RFC to useless twits who didn't have the funds. Mike Mcgill it reflects frustration on my part at that stage in the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Must be a bill to be met.Warburton's pay off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adayinmay Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Barry Anderson? @BarryAnderson_ 2m2 minutes ago #Rangers sell 15-year-old Billy Gilmour to Chelsea for ?500k. Wish the kid well but can't help feel it's a bad move at such a young age. That'll be the final payment for Joey Barton. Remember him??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Barry Anderson? @BarryAnderson_ 2m2 minutes ago #Rangers sell 15-year-old Billy Gilmour to Chelsea for ?500k. Wish the kid well but can't help feel it's a bad move at such a young age. The Daily Record deserve a cut off that for ramping him up. A very average youth who had one good tournament for Scotland under 16s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moz Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The bank was Bankas Snoras, with Vladimir Antonov as a major shareholder. The bank was nationalised by the Lithuanian authorities because of a number of irregularities not long before Ukio Bankas collapsed. Antonov also got involved with Portsmouth before it went into administration. Yes, but the annoying part of the articles in the red tops stated....."There was a bid from a mystery Lithuanian Bank etc , etc"....and then underneath it it said..."at the time Romanov owned Heart Of Midlothian" Clearly inferring that Vlad was part of it......absolutely no need to name Vlad in that article at all..........sensationalism at its best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 @TheTributeAct : "Now we have more smoking guns than a Friday night in El Salvador." Arf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Barry Anderson? @BarryAnderson_ 2m2 minutes ago #Rangers sell 15-year-old Billy Gilmour to Chelsea for ?500k. Wish the kid well but can't help feel it's a bad move at such a young age. a very good young player with lots of promise, will come to nothing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 martin bain given bonus of ?360k for helping deal to sell to whyte, but didn't seem to do much http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-39855916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The more that we hear the more it seems that Craig Whyte has been given the Lee Harvey Oswald role in the demise of Rangers, with Sir David Murray last seen scurrying away from the grassy knoll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Good analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The more that we hear the more it seems that Craig Whyte has been given the Lee Harvey Oswald role in the demise of Rangers, with Sir David Murray last seen scurrying away from the grassy knoll. You'd better believe it bud, been saying the same for ages now that Whyte was 'just a patsy'. Who knows, maybe Whyte has the missing bullet and it's covered in fingerprints which are not his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 martin bain given bonus of ?360k for helping deal to sell to whyte, but didn't seem to do much http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-39855916 It sums up the entire situation, three groups of Rangers directors i.e. David Murray et al, Craig Whyte et al, and Alastair Johnson, Bain et al --- all trying to rip the maximum personal benefit out of RFC and all pointing the finger at others calling them charlatans. Absolutely laughable we are wasting public money on this private spat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 It sums up the entire situation, three groups of Rangers directors i.e. David Murray et al, Craig Whyte et al, and Alastair Johnson, Bain et al --- all trying to rip the maximum personal benefit out of RFC and all pointing the finger at others calling them charlatans. Absolutely laughable we are wasting public money on this private spat. I'm amazed how some on here come on with mock outrage as if the football world is held to a different standard from the rest of the business world. If they really care about football they'd be up in arms at Pogba's agent getting over ?22million from his transfer but that seems to be okay for them as they are silent on the matter..........I guess there must be another reason why this case and the club involved seem to matter more to them..........Perhaps their great rivals being involved in such a scandal is reason enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Barry Anderson? @BarryAnderson_ 2m2 minutes ago #Rangers sell 15-year-old Billy Gilmour to Chelsea for ?500k. Wish the kid well but can't help feel it's a bad move at such a young age. It's a move You take a risk Not sure of the quality of coaching. Maybe Rangers have better coaches than Chelsea. He certainly has the opportunity to play abroad on loan from Chelsea if he does well. I feel he has made a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm amazed how some on here come on with mock outrage as if the football world is held to a different standard from the rest of the business world. If they really care about football they'd be up in arms at Pogba's agent getting over ?22million from his transfer but that seems to be okay for them as they are silent on the matter..........I guess there must be another reason why this case and the club involved seem to matter more to them..........Perhaps their great rivals being involved in such a scandal is reason enough. Whatever Pogba's agent made has had no impact on Hearts, the Old Rangers and their cheating did have an impact on Hearts and the rest of Scottish football for many years and still does. By the way Hibs are our great rivals not Rangers, but that's not what you were meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm amazed how some on here come on with mock outrage as if the football world is held to a different standard from the rest of the business world. If they really care about football they'd be up in arms at Pogba's agent getting over ?22million from his transfer but that seems to be okay for them as they are silent on the matter..........I guess there must be another reason why this case and the club involved seem to matter more to them..........Perhaps their great rivals being involved in such a scandal is reason enough. Not really sure your point is at all relevant to the discussion, or to be quite honest made in a coherent manner..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm amazed how some on here come on with mock outrage as if the football world is held to a different standard from the rest of the business world. If they really care about football they'd be up in arms at Pogba's agent getting over ?22million from his transfer but that seems to be okay for them as they are silent on the matter..........I guess there must be another reason why this case and the club involved seem to matter more to them..........Perhaps their great rivals being involved in such a scandal is reason enough. Whataboutery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Not really sure your point is at all relevant to the discussion, or to be quite honest made in a coherent manner..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboz Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Whataboutery! Aye, this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroonblood22 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Why the **** should any Hearts fan be 'up in arms' about the Pogba transfer? What a strange comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 To (almost) borrow an old Not The Nine O'Clock News line, ?22m going to an agent? Is that gross? No, it's obscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Why the **** should any Hearts fan be 'up in arms' about the Pogba transfer? What a strange comment.It's the jealousy of a Liverpool fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 "their great rivals" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Collyer Bristow's Gary Withey next up in the witness box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Collyer Bristow's Gary Withey next up in the witness box This is going to be good....popcorn at the ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdannyb Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Withey asked about "proof of funds" letter if his name was on a letter "you should look at the letter" says he didn't even draft it AD "It was signed by you" Withey "I saw it as a comfort letter" Asks to see the letter, AD says he is coming to it Withey says a "comfort letter gives the other party a degree of comfort" AD "Can you expand on that?" Withey says proof of funds can only come from a corporate adviser adds "anyone can write a comfort letter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Withey suffering from Amnesia regarding many questions I think he needs a Comfort blanket. James Doleman @jamesdoleman Advocate Depute continues his examination in chief of Crown witness Gary Withey 6m James Doleman @jamesdoleman AD begins by showing the court a letter on Colloyer Bristow headed paper. Witness says he doesn't recall sending but agrees is his letter James Doleman @jamesdoleman Dated 21 Oct 2010, headed Project Charlotte. Was sent to solicitors representing Murray 11:59 am ? 10 May 2017 49s James Doleman @jamesdoleman Withey says letter was an expression of interest "we only want to have a look under the bonnet" #WhyteTrial 3m James Doleman @jamesdoleman Withey confirms "Newco" would be Wavetower, a "bidding vehicle" for the proposed transaction. James Doleman @jamesdoleman Replying to @jamesdoleman Letter says Withey would be forming a "Newco" to carry through the transaction James Doleman @jamesdoleman Replying to @jamesdoleman Dated 21 Oct 2010, headed Project Charlotte. Was sent to solicitors representing Murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Is this legal? James Doleman @jamesdoleman Withey says deal had to be kept confidential so as not to drive up share price "We had to keep it tight" 1/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdannyb Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Another letter shown on court screens, Withey confirms is his signature and was sent to Murray 8 Nov 2010 In part "Funds are available to complete the transaction" AD "Was that truthful?" "Should say funds will be available" AD "But it doesn't" AD "Was it true" Withey "It was true we had a letter saying that" "Were you personally satisfied?" "Yes, by the letter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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